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QOTT: Why aren't (You) bothering to keep the thread bumped?

• Help, advice, guidance on meds and dosages
• HRT related medical experiences and research
• Availability and pricing of medications
• Rational and scientific discussion

▶ https://rentry.co/hrtgtemp
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>>45230686
dopamine addiction bad
hrtgen good
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>>45230686
here before symphony copypasta
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>>45231120
who forced you? also where do you live if it's australia I'll send you my spare
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>>45230686
hrtgen is kill? fuck you-know-who
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>>45232592
not this time, just lazy trannies who apparently don't gaf about the most important part of the board
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yeah i just mean the recent crusade to kill the thread everytime

i used to but i was gone for a while

>bumpo
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>>45231711
Us
also my friend because apparently im not doing all i can for hrt money
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>be me, Symphony Labs

>never inspect vials before selling
>claim that hair in vials was due to "one bad batch",everyone in the community starts replying to anyone complaining about hairy vials with the "one bad batch" explanation and that the issue was already fixed for future batches
>tfw current batches still have hair
>claim that loose vial caps that fall off was due to manual crimping
>still have loose vial caps one month later
>self advertise on wikipedia by putting my vial picture on the estradiol enanthate page
>put photos of my lab on the wiki page for DIY HRT
>join the transdiy discord and brag about opsec sensitive business practices
>somehow the mods are ok with this
>hire a new shipper even though she lives with her chud parents
>packing 50 orders a day in her living room after her family sleeps
>chud parents find out and kick her out
>not my fault
>hire a new shipper to clear backlog
>new shipper shits herself and creates a 4 week backlog
>claim customers are lying to people about a 4 week backlog
>claim customers are lying to people about taking preorders
>its the customer's fault for lying about our practice
>get exposed that all uk domestic orders were preorders, have to offer refunds for anyone who ordered from the uk
>left uk customers waiting over a month before admitting that i let preorders pile up for vials that weren't in the uk warehouse yet
>customer data leak exploit was brought to my attention in May
>lie about fixing it
>tfw customer data was leaked 2 months later because i never fixed the api exploit after someone already notified me
>somehow this is everyone else's fault for being mad that i didn't fix the exploit for 2 months
>somehow the entire community still has my back because im so good at community outreach and PR
>make 20k in earnings every month
>everyone still treats me like a small time brewer doing it out of the goodness of my heart
>still never answer emails
>still taking preorders
>still dust in vials
>still winning?
>tfw
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>>45234029
>for over a year, constant reports of fibers in my vials
>“dood it’s just filter fibers” excuse every single time
>never once modify my procedure to prevent filter fiber contamination
>“dood i just didn’t wash the vials my supplier sent”
>a year of reports about fibers and it’s always the filter or the vial supplier getting blamed instead of actually changing the brewing process
>somehow this is supposed to be acceptable
>never even consider the obvious solution of using a secondary sintered glass filter to catch stray fibers
>average symphony business decision
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>>45234043
>be me, symphony labs

>use some random cissoid’s actual mailing address as your return address
>never bother changing it
>packages go undelivered and some random woman keeps receiving Symphony’s returned vials
>still refuses to rotate return addresses
>finally gets posted on reddit

competent brewop btw
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>>45234149
holy shit lmao
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>>45234149
The link to the post is https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisit/comments/1xpyj6v for anyone else wondering.
Everyone in the comments were misleading each other into thinking it's some kind of scam, until some pooner decided to tell OP what the vial is and were it came from. When called out for it he acted as if he did nothing wrong.
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>>45234149
Symphony might genuinely be the most incompetent brewer I’ve ever seen. You’re telling me they literally have one return address that they keep reusing? kek

Inb4 the stereotypical Symphony blog post where they play victim and insist they actually have several return addresses that they rotate through (faggot larp).
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>>45234149
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>>45236762
opsec slopsex
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symphony, i hope it's just malice from other posters and this is not actually true bc that's pretty bad -- get a hold of a homes for sale API, and set the return address to an empty lot within the ZIP of the customer plus/minus 5.

not rotating addresses is how a distro can be tracked if there was agency action on this subgroup.

edit: fuck it's real: https://old.reddit.com/r/whatisit/comments/1xpyj6v/what_are_these_vials_that_keep_coming_in_the_mail/
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>>45236951
this is only like the 29th le epic symphony fuckup
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>>45236951
>fuck it's real
Symphony Labs wins the Humiliation Ritual of the Year 2026 KWABOTY prize! Congratulations!
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>>45237125
i need them to lock in.
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has anyone here used halcyon.diy? it's weird both Valerie and diyhrt.coffee listed them immediately even though their undecylate and cypionate don't have any testing.
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>>45234149
symphony labs and massive opsec failures name a more iconic combination
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>>45235840
poonchad
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>>45236951
>>45235840
>>45234149
why the FUCK is symphony still around atp?? like is there really nothing better? this is such a negligent fuckup that could easily be prevented. and now more cissoids know about diy!! surely that couldn't go wrong
fuck symphony
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i know this thread basically exists to rightfully piss all over symphony but i have a question
i lost my license to post in /repgen/ a week ago by doing my first injection and it's almost time for my next
it was around 2:40 in the morning and i really wanna go to sleep so can i do it now or is it better to wait?
everyone keeps telling me it doesnt have to be exact but what if i want to be?
also please ask actual questions, i did not create the rentry for the gen to devolve into this shit
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>>45239318
do it now, the difference is negligible
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why do i get shortness of breath and other weird symptoms whenever i apply more than ~1-1.25mg of scrotal estrogel in one go. it's really weird and it doesn't happen at all with lower doses. once that threshold is crossed all cards are off the table
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>>45239454
i'm really trying but i keep fucking it up
i keep thinking it's not right and starting over
i only have 2 syringes on me right now
i don't know what to do, but i don't want to miss it and i want to sleep
i wish i didn't have to fucking sunk cost fallacy my life but i'm too far in
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>>45240088
wdym fucking up? if it's in, it's in
https://pghrt.diy/#S5.SS8
https://pghrt.diy/#S5.SS9
https://pghrt.diy/#S7.SS8
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>>45239318
pick a better time sooner and start doing it at that time from now on. i had the same problem lol. i rotated to the morning cause kept forgetting,
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>>45237203
>is shipping discreet
>"Your package will typically be listed as something like “silicone oil.”"
>the usual suspects.
notable however that its marked as they explicitly don't ship to the US and points to hera.
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>>45241200
ok scratch that I'm dumb
the new website seems to be the silvermaple labs people and silcone oil seems to be panacea (aussies) which silvermaple (canadian) spun off of which has shuttered and silvermaple has worked with opengatelabs before but I don't know the drama between all the different distro sources if someone has that discord link that keeps being mentioned in that symphony labs copypasta that would be very appreciated
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>>45241271
if you check the hidden stock counter on diyhrt.coffee, they’re apparently preparing to carry duta, fina, prog, pio, relugolix, cialis, cypro and bica.

their planned product lineup is remarkably similar to peak US OGL, except they’re based in Canada. I wonder if some of the same people are involved, because they seem to be positioning themselves to become a pretty massive lab.
>silvermaple has worked with opengatelabs before but I don’t know the drama
Silvermaple joined OGL during their rebrand and eventually became their Canadian distributor. At some point, though, Tea posted on Reddit claiming that Silvermaple had exit scammed, taken a substantial amount of money, and ghosted everyone without fulfilling any of the Canadian orders.

WHAT’S FUCKING WILD is that OGL continued working with Silvermaple after all of this. Like, what? You have to dig pretty deep to find the original discussion, but Tea was answering questions about it in several HRT threads back then and described the situation as an “infohazard”
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What’s the bulk estrogen powder I’ve heard people talk about making their own injections with to last years? I haven’t been able to find it yet in my limited view of the pharmacies but I have found pills which would not last too long.
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>>45241688
Figured it out. Had to go in links within links on the guides. For $2.88 I could have more than enough raw estrogen for a starting dosage for a year…that’s less than a candy bar and a soda in this economy, depending on where you shop buying just one of them might be more expensive than the estrogen. Combine it with a bottle of hand sanitizer with a milk frother and I’d be set for half a year…I don’t even need money, the place accepts bitcoin and I found a subreddit categorizing ways to earn “beer money” online including in crypto. I know how to get everything I physically need, the one missing ingredient is courage. How long have all these sites been up? Could I have saved myself from my fate at 15? Could I save someone else now?
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Has anyone tried transdermal progesterone here? Is it worth it
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Made my own progesterone troches for the first time.
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>>45242196
No, but I could see myself doing it in the future with more space and $$$.
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>>45242171
What’s that?
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>>45242234
They dissolve under the tongue. Each is 200mg, but the half-life is pretty short (shorter than suppositories), so you split each one up into fourths or halves and take throughout the day.
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>>45242260
Why not just inject progesterone if you’re worried about the half life? I used to talk to a girl who had some pharmaceutical estradiol enanthate and progesterone mixture that came in an ampule. I wonder if there’s anything like that out on the markets :p
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>>45242284
There was a thread a month or so ago about that, but I think current progesterone injection doesn't really solve the half-life problem iirc... I've definitely seen progesterone only vials before though.
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>>45242314
Have you done anything with transdermal progesterone before? I’m interested to know if it’s on par with suppositories
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>>45242329
Yeah, I tried it once and noticed nothing. Take a look here: https://transfemscience.org/articles/oral-p4-low-levels/#non-oral-forms-of-progesterone

Although, the ray peat people advocate for progesterone mixed with Vitamin E, which you apply to your lips, or inside your mouth, basically any mucous membrane. I tried that too and never noticed much effect, but there's a lot of information on it: https://www.longnaturalhealth.com/additional-progest-e-information/
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>>45242357
cis men taking progesterone as a fad will never not be funny to me
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>>45242357
Interesting, so is the only viable form of progesterone just suppositories? You don’t really ever see any progesterone vials or anything
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>>45242363
I know it's like their culture is totally about restoring nature but through the use of pharmaceuticals. Idk it's fine but seem hypocritical.
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>>45242369
Yeah...I feel really good after my 200mg...I took it an hour ago. But I haven't taken any in over a month so idk. I'd be curious to hear what suppositories feel like when used consistently. I mean I did try them orally a while back and felt literally euphoric and sleepy but only for a few hours.
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>>45242391
I’ve only done oral prog at 200mg per capsule and I felt pretty good honestly, I liked the liver pass through effect of making me feel tired :p
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>>45242406
...sleepiness...
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>>45237203 >>45241271
>halcyon
so like whats the verdict? here is the first mention i can find on halcyon and can valerie even be trusted after the symphony situation?
>"While we take great care in adding only providers that have demonstrated a large number of verifiable satisfied customers"
>absolutely no customers yet
this just screams suspicious to me idk
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is it stupid to do injections in your legs when you do a lot of leg based sports?
did subq in my thigh once and went cycling for like half a day and i feel like that somehow messed up my levels for the week as the day after i was kinda in heat while i am usually borderline asexual. did *a lot* more blood flow than usual somehow liberate a bunch of E and cause a spike or something?
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>>45242738
No thats stupid
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>>45242738
nah probably just the endorphins
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>>45234149
not to defend symphony or anythjng but the reddit post is obviously bait. story screams fake and no normie would be posting their address on reddit like that.
>We live on [address]
lmfao
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>>45242949
That's obviously a fake address as an example. 123 easy Street really?? they're just using it to point out what happened with the apartment number.
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1mg finasteride or 0.5mg dutasteride daily
yes i know that monotherapy already makes that redundant in most cases but just in case and i do have those kinda issues already so im trying to maximize my chances
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>>45242647
valerie just verifies people she personally likes and automatically verifies people who have previously been an established homebrewer. so one of the two.

and yeah its obviously bullshit either way because they have zero track record of selling to anyone yet under the halcyon name
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>>45243196
then why the fuck does she like symphony
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>>45230686
What options are there for latating meds? Any experiences?
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>>45242991
123 easy street is a real place though
looking it up its a 3 story condo (4 bed 3 bath 1 half bath) in mountain view or a 2 bed 1 bath in clovis.
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>>45243359
honestly probably because she knows the girls behind symphony. (apropos of fucking nothing) symphony also has ties with estrapen as in symphony's stuff are in the pens to keep up with demand.
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>>45243607
you're this fucking autistic you can't tell when normies use an address they made up to use as an example??
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>>45243632
Symphony is known for donating substantial amounts of money to indexes and testing services to get on their good side. Just look at how they gave the relatively new hrt.gumi.gay site several hundred dollars (they're one of the few sites to be transparent about Symphony's actions and put out a disclosure disclaimer). They’ve also donated to exogenous.fun and likely Artemis Research as well. The girl behind Symphony is an extremely skilled social operator and manipulator who is very good at cultivating relationships and getting people on her side.
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>>45242074
maybe not those particular sites, so maybe not that easy, but its definitely been possible to get custom synths of basically anything for decades.
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>>45242284
i think that was a progestin, a synthetic analog. thats the kind of thing people actually freak out about clots for.

iirc:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algestone_acetophenide#Side_effects

>DHPA is used in combination with estradiol enantate (E2-EN) or estradiol benzoate butyrate (EBB) as a once-monthly combined injectable contraceptive for women in Latin Americ

>See also: Progestin § Side effects. Side effects of the combination of DHPA and estradiol enantate have reportedly included dysmenorrhea, breast tenderness, headache, edema, bloating, changes in libido, depression, anxiety, and injection site pain.
(mostly normal [e]ffects but still)

imo its almost nearly always better to just take things separately unless you have a really nice doctors and a compounding pharmacy doing custom batches that way you can control the dose rations and stuff like that instead of one-size-fits-all good enough. if you have the option of course

i think the chemical nature of actual prog means you cant ester it without adding some hydrogens or oxygens, so it cant be slow release in that way. thats why the most popular is synth Depo-Provera shot, which is Methylhydroxyprogesterone and of course endos dont give trannies birth control off label unless they are cool since non clinically tested side effects can hit their licensing if you sue or are gay about it.
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>>45242647
im just gonna collect them like pokemon staggered and dated a few months apart and use the ones w the coolest design. ive baked it in as the cost of diy, its still way fucking cheaper and then i dont have to freak out about hairs or running out.
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>>45242738
i think so, but negligible and it would make you less? exercise in general make you more
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>>45234149
>>still refuses to rotate return addresses
how do people even do this shit? do you have to have friends or what? seems totally insane i cant imagine actually running something like that these days when AI can tell from they brand of tape plus date and zipcode or someth. or do they just use legit PO box? but this poster is saying its bad not to rotate?
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>>45243950
I'm more autistic to know that its both like I know 123 Easy St is a common placeholder address but also normies could be bone headed enough to actually say something (heavily doubt it but people can be incredibly stupid).
also we're all here of course most of us are horribly fucking autistic why would we get this much into it with pio and other optimizing strats otherwise other trannies just take their 0.15ml of een and check levels and run with it.
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>>45243515
domperidone from canada and the newman goldfarb method and also oxytocin sprays while you're pumping or squeezing your breasts like you hold your boob and you slide your thumb down to your nipples to get the lobules going
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https://scienceclass.pages.gay/guides/topicals
The hand sanitizer estrogen gel recipe here seems very easy and more achievable than any other HRT method. Does anybody have experience with it or similar recipes? What do I do about antiandrogens?
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How long does estrogen powder last? The minimum order quantity would last me decades
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I was prescribed vials for 5mg ev weekly to start my transition, levels at trough after 3 months were 150 pg/ml so I bumped it up to 5/5. When I go in for my next test, should I go back down to 5/7 or check my new levels?

4 months in and almost nothing has happened, feeling despair
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>>45242738
but they haven't added Aurelia??

I'm pinkpilling someone and I need some of my own and live in Australia so, Aurelia it is then? or should I gamble with halcyon knowing they're ex-silvermaple...
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>>45246993
if you're lucky enough, astrovials is also an option, they do ship to australia, options are cooked regardless for now
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>>45230686
I think my dose is too high and it's giving me some rather extreme nausea. Should I skip an injection and lower the dose or just lower my next dose? If so, then by how much? I do 5mg weekly.
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>>45248115
just lower your dose. you could also try moving your injection day back a couple days if you want to get it down faster
https://estrannai.se/ is a good resource but note that it's not a good predictor of what your levels will be given a particular dose, just the proportions
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are the eu vendors still fucked ?
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>>45248442
maybe you can become your own vendor
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>>45243987
yooooo i would love to get funding; i will sell out ngl hmu symphony
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if you already have serious gyno will hrt even do anything for you or are you just stuck with the ugly moobs forever? or will it work especially well? asking for a friend
t. the friend
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>>45230686
why am i experiencing more hair shedding since starting HRT?
am i gonna lose my thick hair? :(
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>>45251216
you body is getting rid of weak/old/balding hair
it will stop eventually and you will see stronger regrowth after the shedding stops. also happens to regular cis men that take anti-balding meds. picrel is what happened to me but i look way better now than before the shedding.
how long shedding lasts is pretty individual.
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>>45251278
that makes sense, thank you <3
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>>45230686
is injecting 0.2 - 0.17 ml of 50mg/ml enanthate weekly for monotherapy like.... wayyyy overdosed? ive been doing this doseage for my first year transitioning and i just now realized i may have went like. double the dose i was supposed to have.,
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>>45251725
yes that would be 10mg when 4mg is enough for most people
did you fall for the 8mg trend, spread by people who don't even get tested or was it a math problem?
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>>45242074
>Could I have saved myself from my fate at 15?
you should still start now so it can atleast improve a little and stop getting worse
how old are you now?
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>>45251216
are you taking prog
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is 20 too late to start e? can i still be cute or am i doomed to be a chopped twinkhon until i gracelessly hit the wall
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>>45254207
better 20 than 21
and better 21 than 22
and so on
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>>45254034
no, I'm just 2 months on HRT
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does cutting yourself negatively impact e levels? i imagine it to be a pretty hefty dent since the blood holding the hormones literally leaves your body. is my intuition right?
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>>45254227
i guess it depends how much blood you lose, by unless you’re trying to bleed out i cant see it doing enough to have a real effect
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i stopped spiro for the last 3 months to try monotherapy, i’ve been leaking a bit more when i orgasm and have been a lot more horny in general. i can get off every day now without it hurting. it’s kinda nice but also has me concerned, i’ll be getting my levels checked next week so i can see if this is an okay place to stay at. 6 mg EV weekly.
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>>45254207
NO!!!
like yeah it may not be "optimal" but its wayyy better than not starting at all. I'd say do injections though. I dabbled in subbuccal when i was 17 then stopped after 6 months and it was not as potent as the injections i restarted at 20.
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>>45251216
shrimply might just be your shampoo/conditioner also. Using something like head and shoulders (i hope youre not using it btw) everyday can result in hair falling out.
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>>45254377
yeah from what I’ve gathered it seems like injecting is the meta. ty autistic anime girl. how long have you been on it, and what sort of changes/timeline should i expect?
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>>45254453
im not the one to ask unfortunately...
so far ive just been crazy emotional, gotten softer skin, and sensitive nipples
3 years ago i think i only had softer skin on subbuccal <- (see how useless this was)
>1 month hrt
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>>45230686
where can i get t gel in the us?
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>>45246952
I think it loses some potency but you can just raise your dose to compensate if your levels are too low. Just make sure to keep it in sealed containers (divide it between multiple containers to minimize the risk of gradual contamination/degradation.)
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my estimated levels vs my blood tests. what the fuck is going on? got a blood test last week and my T was over
400ng/dl I'm miserable
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almost five months hrt now, are you supposed to feel like shit and be depressed and have no confidence? im happy with the changes, even the emotional ones, but theres part of me that feels like something is off. ive been on 6mg e sublingial and 100mg spiro for the past month or so, before that it was 4mg sub for a couple months and 2mg e/50mg spiro before that.
>inb4 injections
im getting them at my next follow up IF it seems like hrt actually does me good.
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>>45258891
me again. how quickly does testosterone start to spike when estrogen levels decrease? is it possible i just need to inject more frequently, say every 5 days instead of 7?
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>>45230686
is there any point in starting E at 18 or is it already over for me?
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>>45259114
are you fucking stupid? get on that shit immediately
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>>45259141
yes, and i thought that it wouldn't do much since my bones would pretty much be set by now
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>>45259197
would you rather grow into a hairy moid?
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>>45259232
no.... but like are there any benefits to starting now over like 5 years from now ? i'm just concerned about how well i'll be able to hide it.
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>>45259265
you never really stop masculinising/feminising. Start now so you can stop the future. it will be easy to hide
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What are peoples prog levels? Latest bloods say 26,4 nmol/L, my dose is 200 mg orally
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>>45253701
I have been on this Earth for 22 years. Saving myself at 15, well, wouldn’t be the whole truth. I was still 6+ feet tall then, and my voice was deepening and my hair growing. But I would’ve had a better shot. Fifteen, maybe 14 was when I had fully realized and accepted my identity. But with parents I did not fully trust, Autism which makes homeless and welfare living much harder should they kick me out, fear, the fear and lack of knowledge of DIY, and the feeling of pointlessness since I knew I was already taller than the overwhelming majority of women on earth, I did not come out. I’m not exactly a repper because I’ve accepted my identity for a long time, but my experience isn’t the same as people who came out even with poor results either. Money in crypto and the greatest knowledge of DIY have been the obstacles to saying “f- it take estrogen and deal with the consequences later,” and now these obstacles are surmountable. Considering how the stress induced by gender dysphoria accompanied by my autism has lead to extreme forms of self harm including beating the legs with an iron rod, beating the back of the head and throat with hands, stabbing and strangulation “take estrogen now and deal with the consequences later,” might be the right choice.
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my nipples are so ridiculously puffy i'm not sure whats happening.. its been like for almost this entire year i wanna say, if its warm out its like a second breast is growing. what the heck do i do.. is it something with my levels? havent gotten a test in some time
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>>45258891
looks like a little cat
mrow
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>>45259753
seconding this

also sometimes they are puffy and sometimes not. its so weird..
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>>45258891
>>45259093
increase your dose yeah, those calculators aren't reliable predictors on how much you'll get and how fast it'll go. move it forward if you have to but that might make it harder to remember
>>45258913
holy hondose. diy and get better levels, that'll probably fix your mood. it also might be the spiro messing with your head, progestogens can do that
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>>45259823
https://voca.ro/19b8vpLykuEG
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>>45259837
you don't sound like a repper
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>>45259842
im not on hrt
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>>45259846
you really should be
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>>45259835
how is 6mg sublingual a hondose?
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>>45259991
missed the sublingual part, not sure how good that'd be desu but yeah certainly better than oral. get a blood test already
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>>45236951
They should know that people have gotten felonies for selling peptides. This isn't something to take lightly. Like for example Matthew Kawa owner of Paradigm Peptides was sentenced to 70 months prison.
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>>45260081
on what charge?
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>>45242171
Jesus, i cant imagine the fucking taste, prog is bitter as fuck
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>>45259997
apparently its pretty effective. im probably reducing the effectiveness though because my three doses are six hours apart and then at night time theres 12 hours where im doing no hrt. this is probably bad but ive fallen asleep more than a couple times now before i took my last dose of the day, which no doubt has been fucking with my mood.
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>>45262437
also sometimes the pill doesnt fully dissolve so some will become an oral dose. its all over the place and i really oughta start injections.
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>>45230686
I need advice for getting rid of stubble. I've lost access to laser and im currently losing my shit. I look hideous
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i knew i wanted to do hrt at 14 but i never told anyone and never did anything to get it myself and i'm really fucking bummed about because now it's way too late for me to get any of the benefits i could've gotten then
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Does pio help with fat redistribution or is it only for increasing appetite?
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>>45242357
The studies measured on the effectiveness of transdermal prog are done on cis women right?
If so does anyone have any idea if taking scrotally would make it an actually viable option? Scrotal skin is very thin so theoretically better absorption, and obviously cant be tested in trials on cis women.
Transdermal spray might be my only option for prog so I'm interested to see.
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>>45264492
do it anyways
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>mtf, 21, 2 months on hrt
I've noticed some changes recently: mood, smooth skin, lower libido, but I've also been having occasional hip pain? Is this normal? I had knee pain before starting hrt but hip pain is new.
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>>45264492
how old
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>>45267784
changes to ligament and soft tissue might cause some soreness
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Stay sissies.
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Is this an acceptable space for discussing specific suppliers of raw hormone powders?
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>>45267873
i already posted something else but i'm 18 and just seething rn
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>>45269077
I wish I started then so much
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Has anyone here ordered from a Chinese factory outlet? Do you have to come up with like a fake pharmacy and stuff or do they tend to have a don't ask don't tell policy?
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>>45235840
There is no other possible reason for you to be upset at him ushering trans women to be safe but one.
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>>45235840
let sleeping dogs lie ffs
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>>45269077
YOU'RE ONLY 18???
who cares you missed out from transitioning at 14, 18 is still young. If you get on HRT now you will prevent further masculinzation.

GET ON HRT!! YOU WILL ONLY REGRET NOT GETTING ON IT IF YOU DONT.
Please Nona if you want HRT diy STAT. You're 18, you aren't done puberty yet, you can either: get on HRT -- at the least this will prevent further masculinzation, or you can rep and john50.

Get on diy NOW. I wish I started when I was your age, I started at 21 but had been thinking about it since I was 18. Get on it nowww
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>>45230686
is calyxlabs really out of enanthate already?? i swear its been like 30 minutes since they restocked and it's saying they're already out of stock
is this an error or should i suck it up and get more valerate?
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how much smoking few cigarettes a day affect monotherapy injections blood tests?
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>>45272876
i think its only for people taking pills
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>>45237203
seconding this because diyhrt dot coffee says they sell dutasteride (in stock) and progesterone (out of stock) but it's not in their list of products
although by fusking I do get a page claiming to sell dutasteride. but for only $4. wat. is it actually that cheap? otokonoko (out of stock) sells it for $50.
and theres an unlisted page for progesterone with a latin copypasta.
as a canuck i would like to get my hands on duta and prog eventually and the easiest way to dodge customs is to buy domestic, but that site looks sus as hell
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This is probably a shot in the dark but does anyone know how and where I can order vials if I'm in Lebanon? Otokonoko is out of stock, and Astrovials doesnt deliver here (and sells out instantly the moment they're in stock anyway)

Is using a package forwarding service a good idea or does it make it more likely that my package gets seized?
Any way I can increase the chance of it getting through customs?

If you somehow (I know this is very unlikely) have any experience with DIY HRT in Lebanon or any middle eastern country in general I'd really appreciate it if you send me your discord or signal or whatever, or ask me and I'll post mine.

Any help is appreciated because I'm kinda lost so I'd be happy to talk even if you're not from the region.
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do any of you inject HRT with a syringe? what's that like? how was it overcoming the hurdle of sticking yourself with a needle?
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>>45272876
for your very specific question that you asked, not at all.

but it will make you bald and wrinkly
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>>45276557
I hover a little and then just J-J-J-J-JAM IT IN (about half the needle length)
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>>45276730
>J-J-J-J-JAM IT IN (about half the needle length)
oooh, that is tender.
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for like a week now I've been trying to switch to pawsnax estradiol spray and i been doing it on my arm cause stuff online says that is fine. the website said inner thigh and i tried that the first dose i took but waiting for it to dry before being allowed to wear pants was obnoxious. it is a really easy place for it to rub off somewhere else. although today I read some links here and it says this method leaves a depot of estradiol in areas w fatty tissue. so I'm asking is it a bad idea to put it on my arm? they are skinny. maybe only foids can do arm cus they dont rly need estrogen as much as we do.
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>>45276557
the first time you do it is freaky as hell. but it quickly becomes routine
putting some music on might help idk
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my endo wants me to drop AA's & switch to monotherapy but stay on the same 0.2 ml ev weekly injection, is that even enough for monotherapy?
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>>45277977
>0.2 ml ev
and how much E is there in .1ml of your vial?
ev isnt very good for weekly injections regardless though. half-life is too short
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How much can I expect to pay for shipping overseas?
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>>45230686
Is dragonordnance still the best place for raws?
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>>45277977
Een is much better for weekly, iirc ev should be every ~5 days
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i requested symphony mutual aid three months ago
(this gave me a will to live for about two weeks)

that shit's not coming. imma rope
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so where do u order from now ??
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON ?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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>>45280472
symphony only did mutual aid as a self promotion thing to help recover their self image, most of those vials never got sent out.
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>>45276557
i just do it
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>>45266021
idk anything but this might be useful: https://papers.trans.diy/papers/pio
they do say it probably redistributes fat, if you're not too skinny


also any weirdos here not want breast growth (hrtfemboy), should I take ralox? how much?
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>>45283996
I've heard ralox is a meme and won't actually work the way you want if your E is at good levels
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>>45271029
but i don't know how to get on diy qwp
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>>45286203
1. Get crypto. Depending on where your live this can be easy or not.
XMR or LTC is recommended. 70 USD should be enough for one vial
2. Buy a estradiol enanthate vial, or buy two to be sure (a backup is always a good advice) . Vendors at the valerie site are recommended. Right now I would avoid SymphonyLabs , I would try to get a vial from Hera or Aurelia. If you are in the EU Astrovials is always trustworthy, theres other brewers like Serapharma or Felicitas
3. Buy injection supplies. You dont need crypto for this. You would need syringes (100 pack insulin 29G 1/2 inch 0.5 cc U-100) , alcohol prep-pads (any type) and band aids (spot band-aids are ideal).
4. Inject yourself. Start with 4mg EEn subq on your belly every 7d. You'd need to learn proper injection/drawing technique.Keep an eye on good hygienic practices to prevent infections (cleaning your hands, not breaking the sterility of the vial/syringe)
5. Labs. After 1-3 months check if your levels need adjustement. If you skip this you should up your dose to 5-6 mg to make sure.


You'd probably have questions along the way, that's why this thread is made. r/TransDIY is also a good place to ask for help
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I have been on HRT for like 5 years now and never did progesterone, I have huge tits but its because I am fat, should I still do progesterone?
My friends say I should but I want to think they are weirdos who don't know shit.
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>>45286337
prog effects are varied and there's no real consensus about its effectivness. But it's worth giving a try
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>>45239491
in theory, a high enough estradiol spike could give you the same or similar symptoms of morning sickness. scrotal application is also known to cause big spikes post-application
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>>45243024
0.5 mg dut is more effective than 1 mg fin
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>>45246961
Yes you should skip a dose or something so your endo doesn't freak out. Never trust a endo unless proven trustworthy.

>4 months in
That's nothing. But make sure you are eating enough, having good sleep, etc

your libido and skin should have changed though
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>>45279159
I bought progesterone raws and they seem good. But it took like 2 months to arrive and shipping quite expensive.
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>>45250830
>serious gyno
Gyno happens when having low T and high E (via aromatase activity)
my guess is that HRT could make it work specially well. but breast growth depends on many things so making a confident prediction would be unwise.
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>>45261484
I added some peppermint flavoring which helps a lot, though I am going to try adding stevia in the next batch. Basically, a copy of OGL's troches.
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>>45262632
If you can handle the pain, epilating can do the trick. It's pretty excruciating, but if the hair is thinned by laser, it's not as bad. That, or makeup.
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>>45274282
>mail forwarding
I'm not well aware of how rigid customs are in Lebanon. however, this has been successful in other countries and generally increases the likelihood of delivery. You can try testing the mail forwarding service by purchasing something else and checking if they do open your packages

I have no more information than that, sorry
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>>45286588
ty for answer, will let my friend know!
t. still the friend
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>>45286324
doesn't look like any of the active vendors i've checked ship to australia unfortunately.
Also unfortunately with australia, i cannot use reddit without giving reddit my ID
it is so over.
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Can patches increase e locally? I know that topical e is used for boob growth, can patches on boob have the same effect?
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>>45287264
astrovials, aurelia (takes a while) and halcyon(unsure) ship to australia atm, can at least vouch for the first two, just luck of the draw if customs decide to be dickheads

there's also estrapen if you're looking more for an insulin pen type of injection but a lot less info on them overall.
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does anyone have any tips for injections
my next one is in 2 days and I'm fucking horrible at doing them
ive been doing subq by pinching the middle of my leg and injecting there but it's not really been working well
i have fat it's just not enough because I don't eat enough and I don't know if I can do IM because my needles are 12mm long
can I just stick the needle into my leg 90 degrees and plunge? that would make things a lot easier
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>>45288204
https://support.getplume.co/support/solutions/articles/72000544742-all-about-injections#Injection-video-tutorials
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how long can i expect to wait to hear back from hera for a support ticket?
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>>45280672
>be in yookay
>voix vial running a bit low
>look up whos currently in biz
>everyone talking heaps of shit abt hera and symphony
>halcyon seems sketchy
>astrovials seems to be the only trustworthy one as far as i can see
>oh only ran out of stock a day ago maybe theyll have more soo-
>look at the stock history of valerie
so uhhhh am i fucked or what
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>be australoid
>diy is difficult to get into the country, some suppliers don't even ship here
>doctors underdose you (1 x 50ug per day patch)
>friend told me if i put the patches on my ballsack i would absorb 5-8 times as much
am i being fucked with? i'm so close to roping these doctors won't give me a decent dose to save my life :(
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>>45291967
https://transfemscience.org/articles/genital-e2-application/
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>>45291967
the main drawback is that you might have issues making it stick. and also you're supposed to rotate sites with every patch, which you can't do when you're sticking a patch to your balls.
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>>45293041
what if i swapped to gel? would that work better?
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>>45293112
Gel works well but it's annoying as fuck to use because absorption rates for everyone are different and you need to use quite a bit to have decent levels of E
>t. gel user who still had 100 pg/ml at my last blood test despite 36h passing since my last application because I'm a dumbass
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>>45293155
so how many 1mg sachets would i need to slather on my shi to get good levels?
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slippery thigh



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