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>be me
>HRT at 20
>4+ years on it
>gained 10kg and did lower body exercises
>unhappy so decide to weight cycle
>lose 7-8kg
>even more unhappy
>A cups and small hips
>lack of curves especially hips drives me mad
>suicidal ideation almost daily
>have to see therapist
>take creatine, high protein, exercise again and try to gain weight

What are the odds this is going to achieve anything? Will it do nothing for my body shape again?
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>>45250296
Holy bdd
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Are you a chink? If so yeah there’s your problem insofar as your yams are concerned. Anyway 7/10 unless your face is fugly, would crack raw and snuggle, maybe even watch a movie with you after.
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>>45250296
total luckshit death
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>>45250296
Question, how long do you have to go without bathing before your pits get nice and stinky? Asking for a friend.
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Imagine the smell
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>>45250296
Yes it will do nothing. You should give up now and detransition to make the best of your remaining years
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>>45250323
I'm white European and taken
>>45250330
very far from being a luckshit in terms of genetics and male puberty
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>>45250445
how tall ru
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>>45250450
5'8 / 173cm
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>>45250454
why did u take a picture that didnt show ur problems. like its just u in a dress. no one cann tell if u have big or small hips or what.
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>>45250465
because I won’t post nudes? You can estimate my shape better here
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>>45250296
does creatine do anything good? why would any tranny take it i thought it was for muscles.
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>>45250488
this is why i had all my muscles removed to pass better
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>>45250485
oh my fucking god its the plant mirror chick just fucking say that already so i dont waste my time
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>>45250491
omg what surgeon!!!!!!! need deltoid removal asap

>>45250485
did ur hair used to be orange or brown?
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>>45250488
my thought process is doing lower body exercises and creatine fills up those muscles
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>>45250485
Are you the one who posted their work outfit one day with the purse and the sweater? If so you are so cute!
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>>45250511
what do u think would happen if i rlly need to do cal defecit to get the upper body muscle wasting and lose male fat and look presentable but i respond reallyyy well to lower body muscle building also?
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>>45250518
maybe idk. Can you comment on my figure and hips? My bf calls me bdd but I get so so dysphoric when I see my reflection
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>>45250296
I bet your life is beautiful, I can only imagine what it must be to be that cute
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>>45250485
You have hips. Please release that many men have negative hips and you have a typical build for a woman your size. Not like me though. I have the racial bonus that gave me massive hips and power at 183cm.
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>>45250571
I am super lucky to have my bf, everything else about my appearance was built with effort (fashion, styling, makeup..) while my body gives me suicidal thoughts
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i was wondering when you would come back Julie but i shouldn't have worried, we never leave :) looking good. i need a crazy bpd wife like you to ruin my life furthermore
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>>45250601
Is that true though? Because I have a twin sister, she is only very slightly shorter and has significantly wider hips than me. I don’t feel like my hips look like a woman’s
>>45250608
I don’t have bpd and I don’t want to be here and shouldn’t be. This is just me trying to see what lgbt says because I am running low on hope and fighting a lot with suicidal ideation last couple days/week
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>>45250607
Ah yeah the build a small frame trick, how could I forget about it
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>>45250625
don't worry babe, you are here forever
t. 11 years here
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>>45250634
the what sorry? Can you explain?
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>>45250625
Honestly just detrans if you look like that and you're still not happy
These pictures just killed my euphoria spike
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>>45250679
I'm happy when I am all dressed up and done my makeup and hair. It's when I see my naked body or my body shape in the mirror or photos that I get a heavy heart and suicidal ideation. Are you the anon who said those are women’s hips? I just don’t know, I don’t see that. I see my body and just recognize it as male in my head. My bf says I'm bdd, maybe my therapist will stereotype me as bdd and try to treat that. Idk
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>>45250679
forgot to say I could never detrans. I already get suicidal thoughts and masculinizing any further would push me over the edge and make me turbo suicidal
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>>45250705
I'd never clock you
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>>45250709
Yeah don't detrans I'm just sad and jealous and imagining all the things I could do and heights I could reach if I had a body like yours.
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So should I buy a Samsung fridge or something more like this model?
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>>45250724
I don’t think my body is anything special at all, really. I've seen plenty of trans women with much bigger breasts or hips
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you want to rope looking like that?
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>>45250751
Your complaint is that you're not the most attractive trans woman of all time?
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>>45250485
>>45250607
you look fine. you're not drop dead gorgeous or whatever but no one could mistake you for a man. and of course your cister looks better than you that's just a fact of being a tranny
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>>45250296
>>45250485

wood berry
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if i could look like you i'd hop on hormones already, i think you have unrealistic expectations, your body is very nice.
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>>45250767
my complaint is when I look into the mirror I see a male body, the same one or very similar as 4 years ago. My heart gets so heavy, it's like a gut punch and I lose the ground beneath my feet and keep falling. I feel disgusting and ashamed and it spirals into suicidal ideation
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>>45250791
You need to do some internal work
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>>45250296
Holy fucking luckshit, you’re 5’8, got on hrt at 20, have a tiny frame, and a boyfriend

Literally just go live your life as a girl and get off this hellsite for fucks sake.

Any body dysphoria you have is just dysmorphia and plenty of cis women also have it. Yeah you don’t look have a goonbait anime level pornstar body. Newsflash, most women don’t have those bodies.

The fact that you even post these photos shows at a certain level you know you pass and you’re just showing off, but you’re a bdd narcissist and probably bipolar so you can’t help but hate yourself too.

There is nothing we can do to help you, you need therapy. Go to therapy passoid and shut the fuck up
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>>45250766
yes that's how I feel when I see my naked body or photos of it. I am honest and serious
>>45250783
>>45250786
>>45250826
I just really really wish my hips were wider at least. It really doesn’t feel like 'me' and I get these terrible thoughts and feelings that spiral into depression and suicidal thoughts when I see my body shape. I won't post anything nude or half nude, you just have to believe me please. It genuinely makes me feel so male and disgusting, I start saying awful things like my bf shouldn’t be with a male like me and I am no better than a high-class crossdresser. Is it so unrealistic to want to have more hips? I don’t feel like they grew from HRT and it kills me. I have tiny A cups too bc of genetics
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>>45250799
that's why I am going to therapy. It can’t change my body, but I want to see if maybe I can do internal work with the aid of a therapist. It feels genuinely SO disingenuous, do fake and shameful to call my body a woman’s though. I am dead serious, I struggle hard hard to call my body a woman's and call myself bdd
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>>45250850
can you post hard cock pics?
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>>45250850
you reached the natty limits of german genes, time to surgerymaxx
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>>45250863
I can't afford any surgeries and I'm stuck chasing a degree but unable to focus on it and study due to my deteriorating mental state. If I can’t achieve it naturally, then it’s out of reach for me.

My only hope is that what I said in OP, weight gain, creatine, exercise.. gives me fat on my lower body and more hourglass or pear shape. I want nothing more than that. I can accept my small chest if I had hips
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>>45250296
Very AGP style of fashion. Not what real girls wear desu
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>>45250906
exercising will give you bigger butt and legs but no hips. it is also very likely that your workouts are insufficient, what are you doing exactly? how hard are you willing to train to grow?
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>>45250911
I wear what I like and don’t care what boring normal people wear. I could wear skinny or baggy jeans (whatever is trendy rn) and boring tops and puffer jackets like most Germans, but that would bore me out of my mind and tbqh isn’t stylish at all imo. You are free to wear whatever the 99% in your country wears
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>>45250850
*taps the sign*
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/44631459/
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>>45250923
I know, you can only grow thighs and glutes, not actually hips. I am hoping that maybeeee genetics will pull through and give me fat on my hips but my hopes are very low. I've only been doing that for 3-4 weeks now. Doing it at home, glute bridges, hip thrusts, Bulgarian split squats, clam shells and some core exercises. I can always go back to the gym for machines for more progressive overload, but I am scared of using the women’s lockers and someone causing a scene bc of me. Trust me I am willing to train until failure, until my head is red like a beet and my legs shake. I have done so in the past, for the first 1-2 years of transition
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>>45250931
Thank you, that OP post describes how I feel, yes. People don’t believe me anymore when I say dysphoria literally makes me suicidal just because I know how to present myself and look passing in clothes
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>>45250926
Looks like I touched a nerve. Trannies don't realize anime inspired fashion in public is cringe.
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>>45250947
alternative, goth or generally black and white lace isn’t "anime" it’s just clothing from a different subculture just like emo or punk or hippie or preppy or acubi etc
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>>45250947
not everyone who dolls it up is a tranny nona chill out
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>>45250906
upper body exercise makes your breasts more pronounced
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>>45250941
you need to hit the gym and start lifting heavy, your sissy home workouts will not give you anything, you are doing stuff lazy women who want to feel toned do, this shit does nothing. If you want to be fat you need to eat more, fat won't magically pop around your hips.
gym can give you this, and eating more + hrt will give you the nice fat to add on top of it
>>>/fit/77601475
>>>/soc/35352158
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>>45250964
I don’t care I am not doing that + I think with my small breasts it'll just look muscular
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>>45250948
But are you really part of those subcultures? OPs outfit is clearly a goth Loli inspired outfit.

>>45250947
No grace whatsoever in her posing. Stands like a chimp with her feet apart so you tell me.
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>>45250969
strong women don't look like men, you won't turn into the hulk from picking up a dumbbell
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>>45250968
sorry but that looks disgusting. I want to look soft and rounded, not muscular like that. I don’t wanna look like a gay male lifter. Also I use a barbell for my hip thrusts at home
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>>45250973
I don’t have a cis woman’s skeleton though, I have a male foundation and my body already looks male to me. I'm not a dainty woman
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>>45250982
I beg to differ but you do you
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>>45250977
you aren't reading. you build strong muscle and add fat on top of them to look soft and rounded
your barbell won't help, i do hip thrusts with 180kg, i doubt you have that at home. the best female lifter at my gym with a big butt does sets with 150kg
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>>45250984
My workouts at home are enough to make my muscles burn during exercise and sore for 1-2 days after, for now. I already said I am scared of causing a scene at the gym. And I don’t want to look anything like those guys you posted so that might be excessive. I used to go to the gym and use the men's during early transition, I enjoyed using the machines but it gives me anxiety now.
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>>45250296
sissies are on another level these days
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>>45251033
whatever. thanks for saying i am disgusting, hopefuel
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>>45251047
are you mtf? Why would you go that hard and become so muscular?? I have severe dysphoria, of course you are going to trigger that if you show me that as inspiration or goals
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>>45250296
Fuck you bitch ass nigga
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>>45251079
i never chose to have this physique, but someday i will mog you hard
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>>45251096
you obviously worked out excessively and repeatedly to get there. You were forced to do that?
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>>45251108
i do lower body workouts only. for some reason i maintain upper body mass without any effort. i don't eat a lot and still am overweight. gotta play with the cards you were given, hopefully with hrt my lower body will massively grow
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>>45251113
eat some salad fatty
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>>45251114
i eat vegetables, i'm not fat fat, only fat blocky
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>>45250488
>does creatine do anything good?
Many good things. All of your energy comes from ATP stores, think of ATP like a battery. When energy is used from ATP it converts to ADP by losing phosphate. If you have sufficient stored creatine, it donates its phosphate to ADP converting it back to ATP, which means your total store of energy is greater if you have sufficient creatine. This goes beyond muscle building. If you are injured you recover faster. Your memory works better. You recover from and withstand things like sleep deprivation better. There are many benefits of more energy.

Whether you benefit from supplementing it is a different question and depends on your diet as well as your body's efficiency at converting it endogenously from amino acids. If you eat a lot of meat and fish you may get enough but many people do benefit from supplementing. It also increases water retention to some degree so it can make you gain water weight and make many of your tissues look fuller.
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>>45251246
i don't think even 1% of the person's posting on this board have the sufficient fitness level to benefit from creatine
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>>45251246
doesn’t the water retention happen to muscles though? Like your muscles store more water in them? I don’t want water weight on my waist, I am scared of that (op btw)
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>>45251288
you don't have the required level to think about these considerations, lift, eat and sleep
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>>45251288
nta but I don't understand, are you a sissy or what? confusing thread
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>>45251324
what’s confusing about this? Why would you call me a sissy ew?
>>45251305
It literally has other beneficial functions like improving brain functions as the other poster said and I had low creatine at my last blood test. God stfu if you are going to be a gatekeeping “I'm so much better than you all” bitch
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>>45251347
the only supplement you need is hrt. everything else is snake oil, companies want your money. get your blood checked for D3/K12 and magnesium. You can eventually take collagen if you don't eat enough meat and fish. i'm not gatekeeping anything, people are over engineering everything except what matters the most
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>>45251258
Very much disagree. Creatine is worth taking as a nootropic regardless of your fitness level.
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>>45251347
>what’s confusing about this? Why would you call me a sissy ew?
I thought you were wearing a sissy cosplay dress? or something with bondage stuff
either way really weird
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>>45251616
i think most supplements are overrated, if they were that good they'd be prescribed by doctors (in a functioning country). a balanced diet without processed food and good life habits (working out, sleeping) covers most needs.
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>>45251288
Yes, it's intracellular water in muscle cells amounting in only a few pounds over your entire body. It's not going to change body composition dramatically.
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>>45251633
I'm not concerned with rating levels of things being appropriate, only what confers physiological advantage. If you agree that a healthy diet provides benefits beyond meeting energy demands then it is inconsistent to reject consumption of substances which occur in foods since 'food' and 'supplement' are irrelevant labels we use that don't alter the physiological effects of particular components. Creatine occurs in food, confers biological advantages in appropriate amounts, and not everyone consumes appropriate amounts. I sympathize to some degree with a rejection of the marketing around the supplement industry, which is why I will defer to studies that affirm or refute particular claims.
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>>45251705
the main difference is how they are delivered, there's a fair amount of supplements which are not absorbed for various reasons. My point is that we need to push healthy habits before anything else. I am not rejecting supplements, I am stating that they aren't the first actionable lever for most, and we need better regulations on them to push those who are actually beneficial and we'll absorbed. I am taking D3/K12, magnesium and zinc myself and glycine + creatine, because I wanted to give it a try. I can not estimate at all if there has been any change but I know most of my habits are correct and this has a high impact. I'd rather see this beautiful lady eat better than spend the few bucks she has on snake oil
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>>45251633
>if they were that good they'd be prescribed by doctors
lmao you vastly overestimate how up to date the average doctors is and how much they really give a fuck
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>>45251892
Which is why I said in a working country. And I meant K2 not K12, sorry I am retarded
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>>45250491
so you have no ass left... i believe it
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>>45250296
i want u so much pls give me ur discord
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>>45250296
you're doing fine, JFC
get the hell out of this board unless you're here to goon your srussy or to fish for compliments.
anyway, look into rib remodeling. you're a bit too thin for that but it may still be appropriate for you.
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>>45252325
I'm taken, very happily so, by my lovely boyfriend
>>45252353
I just can’t afford it and insurance will never ever cover it here, German insurance is super conservative and minimal
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is this another cis man on hrt/sissy fetish thread? I don't get it
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>>45252517
hi there fellow countrywoman :)
Türkiye exists. That's how I did it. It's like €5000 in total. It's not an impossible amount to save or even borrow, c'mon.
if you're going to wait for the State to help, you're never going to do anything, be real.
you're doing great overall, stop dooming, please!
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>>45250296
i started hrt at 17 with 15bmi or something like that
bulked until around 21bmi, my hips got larger but they were still small
ffw 1 year, bulk again until 24bmi, my hips got large as fuck, my butt was like 42in, but my belly was also huge as fuck
got depressed and came back to 21bmi, and now i have wide hips and a normal belly/waist

you can try to do something like this i guess
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>>45252030
>in a working country
lol well I'd rather discuss the world as it is not as it should be. this happens in even the most developed nations btw
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>>45252717
well you were previously very very underweight and started much younger. My current BMI must be around 21 and I am 25 years old. I was up to 73kg last year which is 23~24 BMI and didn't get wide hips like you :')



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