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Should I get on hrt if I'm 6'2? I'm 19 right now my underbust is 82 and my bidelt is 42 and I've never really even seriously considered actually doing it before because there's no way I'll ever pull it off because I'm too tall. But I've been getting the urge to cut my losses and start injecting anyway, even if I'll still socially be a man forever. The changes won't be noticeable by people around me right?

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I wish someone could force me to stop repressing

>>45277583
>I like to think they've stopped repping and are in a happier kinder place.
reincarnated in another world as anime girls?

why do lateshits transition? i’m 30 now and my rep is strong but i’m so scared i’ll john 50 in twenty years. i need to understand the psychology of late transitioners so i can avoid their fate.

>>45277890
you have just one life and you aren't getting younger. Eventually the weights of regret combined with the dysphoria will be unbearable.

>>45277862
> 19
Yes holy shit
>>45277890
Loss of experiences accumulated over time and becomes more painful

>>45277902
>>45277952
the regret goes up but the benefit of starting goes down. the amount of male socialization and irreversible testosterone poisoning goes up. the difficulty of transitioning goes up. the number of relationships you risk goes up. the amount of feminization you can expect goes down. transitioning becomes a worse deal over time.

I wish I were a actual trans person, so I could deserve transition.

>>45277862
Same situation and age here. I want to die because of my height, sure, but will I let it define me forever? I've seen some trans women that can pass being crazy tall which has given me hope

>>45277862
Yes retard.
>>45277883
I wish I could too.
>>45277890
>>45277959
Despite that it still looks more favorable.

It's easy, just simply return to the way you were before you got gender dysphoria and troon thoughts. It may not be ideal, but it's better than this.

>>45278065
I wish I could return to being prepubescent

I don't even feel real

>>45278086
>>45278095
eternally trve

>>45278086
Then you're truer than me then. I didn't get troon thoughts until my 20s

I'll never be a real male, I'm not even a real trans male, I shouldn't transition.

I'm too gigafembrained, short, stupid and ugly to be a guy, there's literally no reason why I should start. ROGD is ruining my life.

Even if I transitioned I would never be happy, I'm grossly petite, if I was cis I would just be a twink or a shitty option like that, but being a "twink" while being a trans male feels stupid and disgusting, I don't want that.

I hate that petite cis men have the right to live while I don't.

God, why couldn't I be 1,80 and malebrained, I wish I had the energy, both mental and physical to start the gym. I wish I was a masculine guy, I hate being fembrained.

Honestly I should just commit suicide.

>>45278137
does that even matter if I was to cowardly to ever act on them and got locked into being a hulking ogre man forever now?

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>>45278065

>>45278192
Damn the femreppers are also falling for this ROGD nonsense?

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Executive dysfunction is probably the only thing keeping me alive at this point because I'm pretty sure that suicide is the only logical choice to make in my situation.

>>45278224
Fellow Executive Dysfunction anon. How are you today?

>>45278229
bad

>>45278206
ROGD was always targeted at trans men. It's the whole thing of "the transgenders are grooming our daughters!!!"

I'm more suprised I've seen trans women falling for it recently

>>45278229
Nta but fine right now. I think today I'm just going to chill as much as I can.

I believe ROGD is possible and trannies dismiss it because it doesn't fit the whole "I was a man/woman from day 1 and if you think otherwise it's trans genocide!" meme.

>>45278243
shut up nigga who cares

>>45278245
Me, I care. that's why I'm posting about it.

>>45278249
okay faggot heil hitler

Anons, I think my gender dysphoria might actually be cured. I was told last night that it would come back tomorrow but it's still not back...

>>45278254
me in the morning before I look in the mirror

>>45278086
Same. But I still thought I was "wrong" then and didn't want my penis dangling
>>45278095
Same :/

>>45278224
Yeah
Not really suicidal now but death would be a relief

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>>45278059
OY LADS WE GOT OUSELVES ANOTHA PINKPILLIN POOFTA IN HERE
BOUT TIMES WE GIVEM A PROPA THROTLIN LIKE WE DID THOSE hrt "reppers" AND BDD PASSOIDS INNIT LADS
SEND EM BACK

>>45278259
Oh, I still don't look in the mirror and I never will. But that doesn't have to connect with tranny stuff. I can hate myself for other reasons, you know?

>>45278287
sure bro whatever you say

>>45278304
The fact I feel nothing now. Was it ever real? Was I brainwashing myself this whole fucking time? Was the John50 story just used as a generic scare tactic to get people to transition?

Dysphoria is Real. I am the illusion.

>tried to jerk off to women while imagining I am one to satisfy my AGP
>It doesn't work anymore, my desire still exists and is very intense, but it's no longer sexual.
It's over.

i can’t be happy. i can’t make others happy. i bring depression wherever i go. i’m too old to change now. if i live it will always be in envy of others. it is so pathetic to live in constant envy of half of society for their gender, and envy of many of the rest for having a well paying job. i hope i can find the strength to end this.

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I'm 18 years old
I went through male puberty
I went through male puberty
I went through male puberty
I went through male puberty
I went through male puberty
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
it's over

>>45278371
18 is super not too late omg please don’t ruin your life more

>>45278224
Trvke
Every day is a bad day to have executive dysfunction.
>>45278238
Fair enough. It really stops being applicable after you're an adult though, even in that sense.
>>45278243
No it's because there's no evidence it's real. Here's your (You) though, last one.
>>45278286
Kek
This is why I love repgen
>>45278343
Yeah this happened to me about 2 years ago. It's quite grim.
>>45278353
You aren't too old to change. The belief is itself the folly.
>>45278371
You are in more than a favorable spot to transition. It's not over because you went through male puberty (well the part of it up to 18).

>>45278320
Nope, nevermind. All I had to do was take a walk in a secluded place and I started to imagine living as a woman. FUCK

I feel like I wouldn't hate myself so much if I was a cis man, even with the current body I have.

I just wish I had a real cock.

What's the point on transitioning if that will never be a real man.

"Transition and get—" phallo sucks, many idiots say it looks realistic as fuck but they coping haaard, never saw a realistic phallo cock on my life, and man, I've seen many. Just, they look bland and rubbery, and the heads, man, mushroom heads.

Not homo.

Well, it can't actually be homo anyways cause I'm a woman who thinks she's a man, delusional shit.

You know what sucks more? No, and you probably don't care.

Being a faggot, as a pooner, literally no man wants a pooner besides uh, straight men.

At least I could be a lesbian but no, I'm a delusional straight foid.

What the fuck.

>>45278422
holy AAP

>>45278422
As an AAP pooner do you imagine yourself taking the fucking or being fucked role?

>>45278395
it’s not the age itself. older people have made greater changes. but i’m not as strong as them and at every corner i’ll be crippled by envy. this isn’t a life worth living.

>>45278422
>>45278424
>>45278444
If only bodyswapping was real then AGPs and AAPs would swap in a heartbeat.

>>45278445
I know the feeling. I think you are putting too much of an expectation of yourself as to what kinds of changes you should make and how fast you should do them.
Maybe this is a depressing perspective, but rather than seeing yourself as crippled by envy and not changing as you think you "should", see yourself as doing what is within reach for you. But more importantly, still making a change in your desired direction.
Don't worry, if it still doesn't work out, you always have the option to kill yourself later.

>>45278454
> option to kill yourself later
the purpose of suicide is to head off future suffering. killing myself later is killing myself when it is already too late.

Realizing you arent repressing
realizing you have bene lying to yourself
realizing you are not a tranny or a repressor or a woman and just a man who didnt wanna be a chad even though he was infactuated with ideals of that sort(think of all the greta leaders of our, and others, times)
Freedom is easy
just accept you are nothing like the people who are supposed to be your equals and are just bored.
Well it works for me at least.

>>45278444

Both to be honest, but the fact that I have a pussy makes the idea of fucking repulsive so I'll probably die as a KHHV.

I wish I had a cool boyfriend to wrestle.

>>45278453

I wonder if that would ever be possible, lol.

If that somehow was an option before the possibility of transitioning your sexual organs at 100% (to the point of being fertile) I would take it.

>>45278395
>No it's because there's no evidence it's real

No evidence troons are women but here we are.

i like to pretend every man is a repper. i feel solidarity with other men. and if i think it’s a struggle every man faces, it’s easier for me to face.

who would want to be a man anyway?

>>45278513
Unfortunately it will never be possible.

>>45278598
Even though we hate being men, there is a need for men in this world, just like there is a need for women. Others have and will always gladly step into the man role. Remember, part reason why we feel so shit as men in the first place is because we compare ourselves to them and see something radically different. But we also suffer because many of us aren't like women either.

>>45278498
Hugs and cuddling are all I need. Wrestling also sounds fun too, I remember when me and my brothers used to wrestle.

>>45278621
I don't compare myself to moids, I think they're disgusting
t.ranny

>>45278487
It can't ever be too late to kill yourself. Think about why this is true.
>>45278498
No amount of dissociation or getting really fucking horny puts you past it? Maybe give some of those horny drugs a try? Better than being a stone pooner.
>>45278628
Misandry is awful, and so too misandrists.

>>45278627

Waow, I wish I had a brother, I feel like I would be more malebrained with a brother.

Since I grew up without videogames I never fit with other men, I played Assassin's Creed until Syndicate when I was like 15 and never played anything more.

I tried to play Elden Ring but due school I had to stop playing and never came back to it.

I wish I looked like my Elden Ring character.

>>45278665

>No amount of dissociation or getting really fucking horny puts you past it? Maybe give some of those horny drugs a try? Better than being a stone pooner

I never tried drugs, I don't leave my house so it is really hard for me to get into that. I barely drink, but only on a friend's house cause my mom is afraid I may turn alcoholic if I drink infont of her.

Maybe if I start living on my own before I kill myself I could try, but still, I have a really tiny body which is still disgusting, the idea of feeling small, not because of affection, but because I am literally more smaller than my partner is a turn off.

If I start HRT (doubt it) I will need to cope with shotamodding.

>>45278720
I actually have more sisters but yeah my older brother got me into video games. Did you play any other games? Any ones you're thinking about playing?

>>45278743

I don't have much interest in games, to be honest. I played Doom 64, some Sonic games, tried to play CS:GO and I was so bad I felt bad cause that meant making people lose so I quitted. I like D4DJ. I used to play a ecchi poker game but after I started working I stopped playing...

I dunno what to play, to be honest. Maybe Gears of War? Resident Evil? Silent Hill? Halo? Doom? I want to try some meta games, they chill and fun, like Pony Island.

>>45278665
> i’m cornered. a tiger is about to kill me.
> i need to die so i’m not eaten alive.
> but i’m too slow with the cyanide and the tiger is gnawing on my limbs.
> the cyanide eventually works but if i was faster i could have died in less pain.

the man killed himself too late.

>>45278769
Resident Evil is a great franchise.

>>45278792

I'll give it a try. [Insert nod emoji]

I should just transition but I'm coping and being retarded too much.

All trannies and reppers are absolutely mindbroken. Just go jerk off. Go have sex. It's okay, you're allowed to have fun. I'm pretty sure this is all just a fetish taken too far for at least 95% of us. Expecting society to play along in our fetish and deny reality is too much of a tough ask, surely you realize this?

>>45277902
>you have just one life and you aren't getting younger
>so castrate yourself as an adult 30 year old man to grow gyno boobs and get a weird pale complexion because um... you dont want to have regret!

>>45278843
>It's okay, you're allowed to have fun.
whats the point if im not afab

>>45278422
literally just do what every AAP woman has ever done and just be a tomboy, do not take testosterone, just lift weights and take anavar and be a varbie or something, choose life its only ugly old men that wanna be cute twink femboys that need to suffer in life

I wish I had a husband. Very sad innit

>>45278843
i’m not entitled to society playing along with my wishes, but i’m sad they won’t play along with my wishes, and i’m sad because my wishes are impossible even if they played along with them. i have the right to be sad about it. i don’t want to have sex in this disgusting body.

>>45278861
You can have fun as an amab. We've all just gaslighted and psyched ourselves that life will forever be shit as our agab. It's bullshit. It's lies meant to take advantage of our mental illnesses, insecurities, trauma, etc.

>>45278966
This applies to you too. >>45278967
I myself thought I would never be able to have sex because the dysphoria would prove too much of a hurdle. I felt ashamed for having sexual feelings, especially moidbrained ones. I deprived myself simple sexual pleasure because I felt it tarnished my view of myself as a woman. It killed the fantasy of wanting to be a normal woman who doesn't have this disgusting libido. But I can't deny that I'm a man and always will be one. I shouldn't have to hate and destroy parts of myself, because I'm not hurting anyone. I lied to myself that I would rather be close friends with women AS a woman rather than having sex with women as a man. The foundation of gender dysphoria is LIES.

>>45278864

Sadly being perceived as a woman, even a masculine woman makes me want to rope.

I mean, I will rope, I need to rope.

There's no point living like this.

>>45278987
Don't rope. Suffer as a woman in this life, and as a reward you'll be the most awesome man in the next.

>>45279043

I'm a woman, I'm too weak, I won't survive this shit.

And honestly I doubt karma is real, if reincarnation based on karma is a thing I'm going to reincarnate as a worm or something shittier cause I'm a bad person.

It's sad that each repper goes at life alone. The trannies want them to transition the normies want them to stop complaining.

Truly...we are the forgotten....

>>45279091
You want to be a man, you're already tougher than you think. You don't want to be a worm or be reborn as a pooner or a woman in Afghanistan. Cis malehood is your natural right, you just have to endure. Maybe ask yourself why you're a bad person. I feel that I am too, but it's because I feel like a worthless piece of shit. We should both give ourselves more credit here, as hard as that may seem.

>>45279142

What's the point of keep going if I don't even know if in my next life I'm going to be cis.

What if I could ropemaxx instead.

>>45277831
I am one of the lads. No tranny ever could integrate in male social dynamics like I have. They came naturally to me because I am a boozy boisterous male with a big smile on my face. I drink pints, all my friends are men. I tower over most of them.

>>45279178
You don't know, but you can hope right? Doesn't imagining yourself as a man make you feel good? Imagine a whole lifetime of such experiences.

>>45279205

I can't keep on waiting, life dissappointed me many times, why except something good from it?

I tried to rope on my birthday and fucking failed, but I will keep trying, I have no reason to keep living.

Me taking a repper to the repressing basement to get high and be anime girls in VR.

>>45278371
>>45277862
i swear to fucking god you two better get on hrt before youre 21 and it's too late like me

>>45278371
i suspect you just want to make people like me kill ourselves...
if not know that your puberty isn't over yet and you will masculinize further. then masculine aging will set in making it even worse.

How to cope with being faketrans?

>you don't

Yeah, blablablah. I don't have access to drugs so I can't rely on them, I dunno what to do.

Hewo how’s it going

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>>45279771
Okay. Realizing too late a lengthy autofiction project about an idealized feminized version of myself is a bad way to rep.
>>45277831
Never would refuse a chance to drink with friends.

>>45279771

I'm dying inside.

And the day is really hot, so I'm melting.

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>>45277831
straight vodka for me, i guess i'm more of a gopnik at heart

>>45279783
I don’t understand all the words sorry
>>45279791
I sorry to hear you melt

>>45278286
hot

>>45279292
I’m trying to get on DIY but the logistics are nightmarish with draconian paranoid christofascist parents, I’m hoping to be on estrogen mono by the new year
>>45279404
I’m not ropebaiting, but I already feel like roping because I can see my face getting more masculine day by day, and I’m already 5’11” with facial hair and 17” shoulders.
I don’t want to be a hon…
t.amechan

>When your dysphoria isn't bad sometimes so you wonder if you were ever really trans in the first place

just saw myself on tv in line at the postoffice

>>45279992
I'm sorry.

i dont even have dysphoria im just ugly and big as fuck. im closer to an incel lookmaxxer than any transwoman

>>45278853
would you rather be a 30 year old lateshit or a literal john 50? of course we all wish we could have been youngshits, or even midshits, but we aren't getting that time back.

Does it make sense to transition if youve already gone through puberty (22yo) and have very masculine features (6'5, broad shoulders, receeding hairline...) or is repping my only option? In that case, how do you cope and not kys?

>>45277887
>reincarnated in another world as anime girls?
I like to imagine that the everclear injector is injecting estrogen now instead.

I would Inject estrogen. I would transition BUT and this is a big BUT. I am lazy.

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>>45277831
>age 4
>put on my mom's hairband because I liked Billy and Mandy
>dad flips tf out and rips it off my head, leaves me sobbing
>next year, tell school about other home abuse, they tell my parents who proceed to beat me for it

>age 11
>I watch lesbian porn for the first time and identify with the lesbians
>go to "grant any wish" website where you had to type a wish and bookmark the page and carry a paper with the number "8" on it for a few days.
>didn't turn into a girl

>age 14
>fall into the /pol/ pipeline
>regretfully, shamefully become transphobic
>still jack off to force-fem and TFT porn non-stop, self-inserting as the women in hentai, etc.
>incredible depressed, parents do nothing because they secretly hate me and depression means I don't pray hard enough

>age 20
>have a mental breakdown over body dysmoprhia (not masculine enough, not "aryan" enough not tall enough, no gf, etc.)
>Wish I had longer hair like those trans girls I envy so much
>Wish I could kill myself because I'll never be happy with this fucked up body
>"better to be mediocre male than fail at trying to be female"
>parents do nothing because they secretly hate me and depression means I don't pray hard enough

>age 30
>finally work through decades of parental trauma
>finally realize that I probably was trans
>watching all of my IRL trans friends prosper while I'm still depressed and miserable
>no idea what to do, could never work up the courage to present as a tranny in public
>feel like my life passed me by and I'll die never knowing what it's like to be happy
>extreme existential OCD and crying almost daily now

I wish I wasn't like this. There's not a day that goes by where I don't wish to die. I feel like I'm already dead.

>>45280184
If any anon deserves an anime vagina it's this anon.

>>45280184
Sue the everliving shit out of your parents and use the money for surgery.
Go for leading-edge or experimental procedures, they would probably be more effective, the doctors more skilled, and you don’t have much to lose.
Get on HRT immediately if you’re not already, it can be surprisingly effective if you’re lucky.

>>45280184
I know its not much but hope things get better anon, from someone in a similiar situatiom

>>45277831
take your HRT, retards

>>45280184
what is it with dads and getting super mad about their sons doing anything remotely feminine????? my grandma would always say i looked pretty cus shes esl and my dad would always get super fucking mad about it
please tell me youve at least cut contact tho nona

>>45280397
No way too scary

>>45280397
I can't. It's too hard.

Trannies will push to transition, but abandon you when you actually do. They'll offer no help and no support. They just want to grow their numbers, and they don't care how many people they hurt in the process.

>>45280284
in the real world, lawsuits require that a civil offense have been committed, and there needs to be tangible, quantifiable damages. They take years and a lot of money to complete, and don't always have a satisfying outcome. Nona is in her 30s now and probably has a career, maybe even a spouse and family. She likely has the means to cover treatment herself, but there is no making up for lost time.

>>45280184
I'm so sorry nona. You were absolutely a victim of shitty religious authoritarian parenting.

>>45280463
the people pushing hardest for transitioning ITT aren't even real trannies, but other repressors

I find it hard to still care all about that gender garbage when I can't even find a job, my savings are gone, I'm about to be kicked out of my flat and be forced to live with my grandparents in bumfuck nowhere when the job situation is even worse

Trannies when someone isn't a normie.
>E gad! you don't have a job, money, friends, and a car??? Uhh sorry can't help you!

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I would get on hrt but I'm still on my dad's insurance and he'd be able to see the claims

I spend a lot of the day just lying in bed sleeping or staring at the ceiling.

>>45281206
real.... i just want to sleep forever

Maybe I don't have gender dysphoria, because I hear how trans women will get fatter to look more androgynous, and I know for a fact I wouldn't be willing to do that.

I feel checkmated by life. Like every time I tried to break out of my shit life and improve my situation it collapsed perfectly to put me exactly back where I started.

It's like I keep walking out of bounds out of the playing area so the game shoves me back. I CAN'T fucking win. I CAN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING. It's not meant to be. I am meant to sit in this room and jerk off to sissy porn until I die.

>>45281633
Rage against the machine, nona. Keep fighting until the very end - if you’re like me, you would rather die in desperation than languish in miserable agony as a willing man.
Not all of us are meant to make it, but we can still fight.
t. john18

>>45281712
>18

18 year olds don't know shit about life. Come back in 16 years to see if you still want to "rage against the machine".

>>45281761
sigh
I don’t want to think about roping right now.

i really want to transition :(

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>>45278665
>It can't ever be too late to kill yourself. Think about why this is true.
That's the exact opposite of truth. Someone who is suicidal has already been toughed and tainted by rancid shit, and that will never be undone. Picrel is unironically the only non-practical argument against suicide and it might be the only valid one outside of practical ones. Although 100% true, this argument won't help if one isn't a perfectionist, however.

>>45282071
touched*

>>45281921
I'm sorry I didn't mean to hurt you anon.
I hope life works out for you.

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it's too late to transition
all I have is escapism and repression
i wish someone had cared

Anyone else hate touching their genitals.

>>45282209
i dissociate while touching them but i cant look at my dick

I'd like to take HRT for better skin and hair and fat redistribution, but I don't really want boobs and I definitely don't want a small penis...

>>45282209
Don't care for it and have tucked since childhood but don't hate it like that.

>>45282428
HRT did little for my skin, hair and fat redistribution but I think I'm estrogen insensitive or something.
Got some ugly moobs and a small penis out of it.

Hello, I'm the anon that said my gender dysphoria was cured this morning. I was dead wrong. I just caught a glimpse of my reflection in my phone and now I don't want to live anymore.

>>45282482
yeah

It is like that.

https://youtu.be/JrlfFTS9kGU?si=J6Gvb9-FABInKpnF
echt godver den godver
eh
echt

he liefies wat gaan we nou doen
ik denk niet al die nationaal socialisten beschuldigen

liefies ik verzeker je de lhbt en zelfs pedo hetero-phlhbt is even schuldig

>https://youtu.be/JrlfFTS9kGU?si=J6Gvb9-FABInKpnF
https://youtu.be/JrlfFTS9kGU?si=J6Gvb9-FABInKpnF

God brengt mij op uit Holland
dat is simpelweg hoe het is liefies eh eh
maar dat is ok <3 <3 (;

ok, guys, should i fuck a pussy or will i regret it later?

>>45282593
if you're a repper you will absolutely regret it
At the very least the dysphoria will probably kill you, because you will be in literal intimate contact with a likely attractive woman in the literal exact role of a man, showcasing your sexual dimorphism.
A woman is also likely to openly appreciate your masculinity and dimorphic features if you are having sex with her, cis or passoid. Passoids especially can be cruel.
PIV pooners are just disgusting.
The infinitely worst case is that you fuck a cis woman (incl. theyfab) as a reptard and get her pregnant, and then either have to 'take responsibility' as a man or commit to raising a child as a father, both of which are likely to push you over the noose edge. You would also be bringing another poor soul into this rotting world with a guaranteed traumatic childhood, who has a 50-something percent chance of being a troon with your same moid genetics, and the cycle of misery continues.
If you somehow survive the suicide spiral, you will inevitably John50 out on your now wife, traumatizing her perhaps more than roping would and scarring your then child.

tl;dr: No, no no no no no, infinitely many times no.
If you must, find a hot passoid, and maybe she will take pity on you.
Don't go anywhere near AFAB unless you want to die and hurt everyone around you.

t.boymoder

I’m nothing but an avoidant retard, a lazy and unmotivated coward. I deserve to suffer. I could have asked for help before it was too late, but I didn’t because I’m a coward, afraid of mean words. Repping is the fate I deserve.

grindr but for cuddling and reading a book and taking a nap together. is this anything
>>45277831
no you guys seem weird
>>45282209
i've been fine with it since forever but the last few weeks as soon as i get off i want to die
>>45282690
>If you must, find a hot passoid, and maybe she will take pity on you.
nta but this seems like a mean thing to do to someone who has actually has their life together

As a repper, should i leave my partner so that they can be with someone better? They support me and are always pushing me rowars transition but i know its just never gonna happen bc its too late, but i feel im only a drag for them

>>45282768
It is a mean thing to do to someone, but if you have nothing to lose you can at least try.
She can always say no.

I hate to say it, but even now, I'm probably in a better position than most men in the event of trooning out in terms of physicality. Unfortunately, whatever stunted my outward growth also seemed to have affected my brain, so I can't troon even if I wanted to. I'm an avoidant wreck and borderline NEET with severe executive dysfunction and no income nor discernable skills, friends, or future prospects aside from vegetating either in bed or in front of a screen. Every choice I've ever made in life has just been for comfort in the short term.

The only honorable action for subhumans like me is to stop wasting oxygen and give the resources to someone who can make use of it. A depressed leech is a drain on others and a drain on himself.

>>45282690
i'm too weak to kms.
she's not a theyfab lol, i'd never. she's very pretty like actually very pretty.
she knows i have tranny thoughts. and actually i'm planning to transition in this month.
i fucked her twice with my fingers but now she doesn't want anything but piv
she's very attracted to me i can tell, she protected me today from assholes, she's supportive, acceptive, read some stuff about gender dysphoria herself.

feel so stupid that i'm attracted to her body.
and she will never commit for ltr

idk why i'm questioning it. like fr.
hate myself, it's so easy to be a man, you don't even know. like so fucking easy to get people attracted to you, be friends with you, i'm not handsome or very social. it's just fuck i can't be anything but a man

i just want to feel her body

>>45282812
yeah i just can't imagine the pitch will be the honest "i would like to skinwalk you plz let me hit" and would frankly be concerned if it was and it worked

>>45282848
I thought you said you wanted to fuck her (like a good masculine manly broman, rep the fag away blah quack etc), not skinwalk someone. I doubt you would tell a cisfem hookup that you're a struggling repper.
it depends, if you find a particularly sneedy passoid she will be bound by her liberal principles to help you if you ask, even if she internally thinks you're disgusting. Personally I don't feel bad for sneeds, half of them are anti-DIY so they arguably contributed to causing this mess in the first place.
I don't know how moided you are, but if you get particularly lucky, you're not as fucked as you think, and any good qweertm might offer to teach makeup etc.

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maybe ill go buy hrt

>>45282830
oh... this changes a lot.
You're a retard nona. Get off of 4chan and take your HRT. There is a decent chance you're just jealous of her body and your repression-poisioned, porn conditioned brain is trying to reassociate that to sexual attraction.
Talk to her like a normal human being. Go transition "this month", but start hrt NOW if you haven't already.
I feel like you're probably not fucked at all, you're probably a 19yo college student. Stop repping.

>>45282593
i did it once and forgot about dysphoria for a while because i thought my body was fine if someone else liked it. it was nice, but then after we stopped i immediately felt like an ape

>>45282829
The honorable move is to bedrot until you die so at least your parents don’t have to have a suicide on their conscience on top of the guilt of raising a loser.

i love your country netherlandsmoder
i was just there and its the only place in the world i see women the same height as me sometimes and i feel normal height instead of a giant.

why is everyone telling this guy >>45277862 to get on hrt? he's never going to pass with that height.

>>45283029
Height doesn’t matter in everyday life. Do tall female basketball players look like men to you? And she’s 19.

Anyone else think it's so fucked up that only 50% of the population can have unique experiences? Like, afabs will never have a cis penis and know what it feels like to have it sucked. Amabs will never experience pregnancy or childbirth. I can name more examples but I don't feel like it. Am I looking into this too deeply? Obviously every person has their own unique life experiences but the gendered ones really give me a pit in my stomach type feeling, like I will never experience ANY of that and it's making me way more anxious and depressed than it should.

>>45282943
nah i'm totally fucked and older. also tall and broad, at least i'm skinny, but my face is fucked

she's the first human being i ever tried something serious and it was too successful, it's easy to love me but impossible to commit because who i am.
together we're very horny so it's hard to think about anything else. i want to fuck her but not in the way she'd like. even if i fuck her pussy she wont commit.
nobody will treat me like a girl. i'm really attracted to women i hate it, and no women ever will treat me like i want because i don't deserve it in their eyes. fuuuuck. men also are assholes and no man ever will be good in being a gentleman like me and i want it so bad. and i don't mean there are no gentlemen, there are no gentleman for me.

i'm so worthless because i don't have beauty and a pussy
fml

https://youtu.be/7O_B5Gh-zFI?si=0WA5SSXqHoAjQM-Q

https://youtu.be/dFINmfL5P48?si=HwA60q_RkNmqJHjZ

>>45283103
could’ve picked more even handed examples than “literally nurturing life itself” and “sex act”

>>45283193
>>45283198
gepost uit nederland
echt maar je krijgt nou met mijn te maken
en

>>45283201
women are fundamentally superior
there is no even example

>>45283220
i fear you are correct but i don’t want it to be true.

echt
luister liefjes schatjes
je bent nou in het bijzijn van den avatar
en Hij verkiest de taal waarin Hij spreekt

En je bent in het bijzijn van den Avatar en Hij wil zijn handen (...)

de Avatar zal altijd aan je willen zitten nou
zo is dat
https://youtu.be/6b6XN7ZvicM?si=iexHVP9L1fBuTQko

>>45283201
>>45283220
>>45283260
I asked AI and even it literally couldn't give me anything other than male skeletal structure and sperm production. It's so fucking over holy shit. Afabs have divine bodies. All life flows from them. We all start out as female in early development. Maleness is the mutation. Femaleness is just the standard, afabs are the true human species. Amabs are the science experiment and 95% of them are highly disposable. The 5% actively oppress and dominate the rest of this retarded ape social hierarchy. I wish I was afab so bad. I want to be divine. I want to be valuable.

ik boei niet voor wat je denkt
de Avatar zit nou aan je

https://youtu.be/DT5PaaxItzY?si=DG1LWVSxnger7rWo
he maar ik kom uit nederland
ik ben nederland origineer
het gaat hier niet om een
van cultuur
ik wil mijn eigen wie ik ben
en ik kom uit net als jij

https://youtu.be/DT5PaaxItzY?si=QbWgfNDXlJHHT5B5
ookalplaats ik dit ik wil niet verkeerd begrepen worden wie ik ben wat ik bedoel hoe ik je
en al die dingen meer

FTM reppers and MTF reppers joining forces to be miserable faster, harder, and longer.

>>45283362
We will never get back what was taken from us, but we can work to ensure this malignant mutation doesn't plague humanity's future generations.
The very moment artificial sperm becomes viable, humanity should seek to wipe out the male gene. This would solve the vast majority of our societal issues, and troonism wouldn't exist anymore in a single sex society.
Wiping out the kingpin apes might also be the only thing standing between us and a practical post-scarcity communist civilization, where automation takes over heavy labor and preventable suffering is a distant memory. Women are better leaders and better people - far less tendency towards anger and violence, and more intelligent and rational with humane concepts of empathy.

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The first thing I would say is this: wanting to wear a dress, imagining yourself as a woman, wanting a feminine appearance, and wanting to live as a woman are not necessarily the same desire. They can overlap, but one does not automatically imply the others.

1. What causes desire?
Desire is not usually produced by one isolated mechanism. It emerges from several interacting processes:
- Biology: temperament, sexual development, reward systems, hormones, and individual variation can influence what feels attractive or rewarding.
- Learning and association: experiences can make certain clothes, appearances, roles, or situations emotionally significant.
- Imagination: we can desire an imagined version of ourselves or a possible life, even if we have never experienced it.
- Social exposure: encountering an idea can give us a vocabulary for feelings we previously couldn't describe. It can also make us pay attention to possibilities we had never seriously considered.
- Reinforcement: repeatedly imagining something, receiving relief or excitement from it, or exploring related material can make the desire more salient.
A desire can therefore be genuine without being innate, permanent, or something you must act upon. It can also be influenced by your environment without being fabricated or insincere.

And yes, desires can be contingent. Some depend heavily on circumstances, expectations, opportunities, and the meanings we attach to things. Others persist across very different circumstances. You generally discover which kind you are dealing with through observation over time, not by trying to reason your way into certainty in one sitting.

Essentially idk if im a faggot because of the events of my life, which could have been different or because there is something wrong with my brain. What gives?

>>45279103
Maybe forming an identity around NOT doing something is not a good way to live.

>>45283409
a poonrepper hatepegs the fuck out of her bf. Hips bucking, sweat coalescing against her brow, exerting herself in an attempt to tap into a deeper catharsis, to no avail. She spares a glance at his hairy ass, shaven and mottled with razor marks, a pathetic sight it was though she feels a twinge of envy all the same. Her boyfriend lets out a waifish, half-hearted moan. This was the man she was supposed to have kids with. The man she was supposed to give her parents grandkids with. This is what women were supposed to do.

The cheap fabric of his thigh highs curls at the edges, threatening to slip down his taut, vension-lean thighs, spread apart in futility, not unlike a newborn fawn splayed out in desperation. The idea of tonight's sex hadn't quite panned out like it had in her head. Her focus is momentarily swayed by his broad shoulders, parallel like an obelisk beneath her. The plastic penis slips out, sliding absentmindedly between his legs. This mistake briefly betrays the monument of artificiality occuring.

She recoups, saving face. A slap across her boyfriend's ass is quick to reassure himself - and herself - that this relationship is in control. She slides it back in and begins to rut, this time with a hint of aggression. "Keep it in the bedroom" she thinks to herself. "Everything will be fine if we keep it in the bedroom"

>>45283088
>do tall female basketball players look like men to you
this is intellectually dishonest, if you need to lie or misrepresent the truth are you really doing a good thing

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I get that its because im fake and for genuine trans people there is no other choice, but i often feel like trans people with rogd are low iq. Like, they genuinely believe unless they transition to live their lives as women they will never experience joy. As if, contemplation is not possible through art, literature, travelling, fashion, as if their desire for beauty couldnt at least be partially satisfied by getting surgeries and cosmetic treatments to look closer to the ideal of their birth sex, because yeah another cope i have is that being cis and hegemonic is more important than potentially being happier by transitioning. Surely being a man cannot be that undesirable if some women want to be men (another one of my copes).

Because i genuinely do not understand why i want this or if maybe i dont really want it and i just think i do.

This question cant be solved by looking for evidence or solving a math problem to reach a solution that is objectively, undeniably true. I do think that taking estrogen and getting surgeries is the best paradigm for some people. I find it nearly impossible to argue that its the best paradigm for me.

The other day i was browsing short guys, idk i think men under 5'5 should transition desu, it would be a pragmatic choice wouldnt it? i think that transitioning can be an excellent looksmaxing strategy for short guys, idk why they dont do it more often.

they say at 30 you get even more depressed, that its now or never, that ur gonna be john 50, but desu im almost at 30 and i think this is the age i will stop giving a fuck. all of my 20s, the struggle for identity, the feeling like a reject and a creep, idk i kinda just dont care anymore.

>>45283492
imo female leaders are just as bad as male leaders, but a society without dimorphism would be heaven. sign me up.

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>>45277890
Because unironically a good bone structure can save people, even old transitioners. This bitch transitioned at 74 and this is how she looks. Or idk i think she detransitioned at 84 for her family, but with fake eyelashes and makeup, and probably having taken care of her skin, she didnt look bad, even as a giga late transitioner.

>>45280184
many such cases, i think now you need to stop punishing yourself in the same way your old self did. for example comparing yourself to your irl trans friends, you arent them and you cant be them, and their success has nothing to do with you. for as many that are succeeding there are many more failing, your life is still worth living even if it doesnt go perfect, the existential OCD and the regret you feel, its born out of a wish to have things done perfectly, but you can only ever be the person you are now, i believe in you anon!

>>45283803
if life was going to be so unfair then they shouldn’t have indoctrinated us with meaningless ideals of fairness or justice in school. there is none in this world.

at least give us an easy suicide so we dont have to experience getting the shit mogged out of us 24/7 for years until we do it ourselves

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>>45283103
For sure but i was thinking more about the social aspects like being able to go to brunch with the girls and wearing cute fem clothes while sharing your experiences that are unique to women with them, confiding in them, supporting them and receiving their support. Just having a conversation.

Though probably if i was born a girl id be as friendless and as mentally ill as i am, but yeah this is my depraved fetish.

>>45278843
have sex? for me the only way would be rape. why do you want me in prison?

>>45283850
currently playing: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HN8CPj9AkX4

>>45280397
no, fuck you

I have too many people to reply to. I'm too tired this time.

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>>45283409
>>45283623

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>>45280011
>In that case, how do you cope and not kys?
Im not necessarily saying it will work, but one thing i think i should do is probably make more friends of both genders, so i stop having an uninformed and inaccurate idea of womanhood, and so maybe socializing with other people will make me less autistic, just remember in case that you want to rep that life is probably not as black and white as autists on tranny forums believe it is. You can still find meaning, purpose, moments of happiness, satisfaction in life, you can reach goals, professional or otherwise even as a repper, especially if you are rogd faketrans, you can still experience love, friendship, contemplate beauty, engage with art, listen to music, your life doesnt have to be all about misery just because you werent born as the gender you think you would have prefered to be. Pain is also unavoidable, you need to remember that cis people also often struggle with self image issues, health issues, eventually they age, their bodies decay, idk. Being a woman is also hard and you will never know their hardships and neither will I, certainly not from a first hand experience.

what would you do if a cis gay man shows interest in you or straight up has a crush on you

>>45283876
Wow I thought I was the only one to jerk off to such things, but I don't do it that much anymore. Yes the ultimate goal of life for me was to be friends with cis women and to be accepted among them as a woman. But that's just mental illness talking through me. If I was transformed into a woman now I would definitely be a femcel.

i dont understand shitters who have access to foid PU$$Y but still want to transition? what the FUCK. how about you die instead? out of respect towardsme obviously.
fuck john50. he fulfilled his biological imperatives but still had the fucking AUDACITY to want to be an foid anyway. he can rot in Hell.

It must be nice to at least be certain about wanting to be a woman.
Better off than wanting to be non-binary, a "gender" that's so fake it wasn't invented until the 2000s.

>>45278665
>Misandry is awful, and so too misandrists.
Nope. In fact we are underhated. I used to believe misandry was messed up, but when i realized a lot of if not most women have been sexually harassed or stared at, groped, received inappropiate sexual comments or something like that by a man, the question in my mind is why dont more women hate men?

its extremely clear that the rates of csa, rape, murder, drug trafficking, would tank if we ceased to exist. ''oh but men protect people'' protect from who? from other men essentially because women, by virtue of being human, are smart and dont need protection to subdue the animal kingdom.

Men are never going to be oppressed and we dont really need to be coddled by having people pretend that misandry is a real issue.

>>45284072
>women, by virtue of being human, are smart and dont need protection to subdue the animal kingdom.
You need to recheck your evopsych.
Rest of your post is way too hateful for me to bother with and you're clearly regurgitating points you've heard online without actually considering them logically.

>>45284045
I was joking, that thing is obviously not sexual. im not sure how someone could get turned on from thinking about that scenario

>>45284072
Misandry makes me want to troon. Who actually wants to be a member of the evil and hated gender?

>>45284083
>Rest of your post is way too hateful for me to bother with and you're clearly regurgitating points you've heard online without actually considering them logically.
if you dont have a counterargument you dont have to post a response.

>>45284086
You know what, I was semi-joking too. I did jerk off to the thought of me being a woman doing ordinary things like brushing her teeth and shit, but really most of that stuff were just AGP daydreams moreso than AGP erotic fantasies.

>>45284098
No, sorry. I hope you can at least see the logical contradiction between hating something yet still wanting it to exist. Since clearly if men didn't exist I think you understand the what the issue would be. It seems more like you hate sexual dimorphism, which is a fair point, but that isn't a reason to categorically hate an entire group of people, most of which are not abusing what they are born with.

>>45284098
Nta but I will claim victimhood. I may not be mentally well but I'm not retarded.

>>45284123
idk if you realize that if you are a tranny or just a gender dysphoric the vast majority of men want to see you either suffer or commit suicide and im not sure why you are defending them/ us.

does misandry hurt me sometimes a bit? sometimes, because its not my fault im a man and i wouldnt pick to be one, but on a systematic level, most men are trash.

>>45284145
>on a systematic level, most men are trash.
At the level you're dissecting it- on a systematic level, most people are trash. Most living things are trash. Actually, most things in general are trash.
Yes, transphobia is bad. I agree. I do not like transphobes. I do not think being transphobic is a fixed characteristic of someone, nor is it exclusive to men. Misandry from transphobia solely due to correlation is not justified.

>>45284145
>>45284162
On a more personal level - I can't hate dysphoric AFABs. They are my brothers and siblings. To deny them their desired gender is not right either. Thus even solely out of solidarity with them, I cannot justify misandry.

>>45284187
ok that is a better argument than saying that cismoids who would most of them, try to drive trannies to suicide deserve empathy.

And now im wondering what share of men who commit suicide are reppers, because these people, who hate trannies and work so hard to bully them and harass them so they eventually commit suicide, also love to whine about the male suicide rate or male loneliness when they wouldnt even stand in solidarity with transsexual men because they see them as women.

>>45284206
>ok that is a better argument than saying that cismoids who would most of them, try to drive trannies to suicide deserve empathy.
Even if we're talking just about cis men, I still can't justify misandry. >>45284162

>>45284206
You should look at the men's rights subreddits. They mostly accept trans men as men and regard their experiences as valuable, but of course with any group of people you will have bad eggs. The bad eggs in this case being trans exclusionary MRAs.

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I don't care about any of that I just want to be pretty

how painful is death by untreated diabetes? i’m lazy and afraid of doctors so this is my future

>>45284286
Yeah.
>>45284332
Very painful.

>>45284332
i think its pretty painful doesnt your foot fall off or something

>>45283409
Where's the upside? I suspect I'd just live in constant seething jealousy of her.

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>Yes. You can be a cisgender man who wishes he were a woman
>chooses never to transition
>and nevertheless lives a healthy, meaningful and satisfying life.

5. Resources I recommend

1. American Psychiatric Association — What Is Gender Dysphoria?

Read the APA explanation.

Useful for distinguishing identity, expression, sexuality and clinical gender dysphoria.

2. WPATH — Standards of Care, Version 8 (2022)

Read the full standards.

Particularly Chapter 5, concerning adult assessment and treatment. It discusses sustained gender incongruence, evaluation and informed decision-making.

Hormone therapy

3. UCSF — Information on Estrogen Hormone Therapy

Read the clinical guide.

One of the most useful patient-oriented resources for understanding physical, sexual, reproductive and emotional changes.

4. Endocrine Society — Clinical Practice Guideline

Read the 2017 guideline.

A more technical account of hormonal treatment, monitoring and medical considerations. The Society continues to list it among its guideline resources.

Facial anatomy and FFS

5. Dang et al. (2021) — Evaluation and treatment of facial feminization surgery: Part I

Read the paper.

Forehead, orbits, eyebrows, eyes, nose and surgical planning.

6. Dang et al. (2022) — Evaluation and treatment of facial feminization surgery: Part II

Read the paper.

Midface, lips, jaw, chin and laryngeal prominence.

7. Facial Feminization Surgery: A Systematic Review of Perioperative Surgical Planning and Outcomes (2022)

Read the systematic review.

Especially useful for understanding the use of CT scans, cephalometry, photographs, surgical planning and outcome assessment.

8. Facial Anthropometric Considerations in Facial Feminization Surgery: A Systematic Review (2025)

Find the publication.

A more recent review of facial measurements and population-specific considerations.

I think you should start posting resources for reppers at the beginning of each thread, idk anons the mtf and ftm generals do have them.

I have accepted that I never had genuine gender dysphoria. I am ugly, but instead of acknowledging that that was my true issue I pinned my body dissatisfaction on a fetish. But sexual fantasies about being a woman are not gender dysphoria and not liking being ugly is not gender dysphoria. Being ugly is easier to cope with than the gender issues I fabricated. I am normal. I am no different to billions of men. My burden does not feel so heavy anymore.

>sexual fantasies about being a woman are not gender dysphoria
It isn't even bait at this point

>>45284777
It's not dysphoria if I don't actively hate being a moid

>>45284777
It’s not bait. I’m workshopping things to say to my reflection every morning.

>>45284612
i think you get banned if you put specific instructions and advice on how to kill yourself

>>45284852
getting banned from 4chan is an accomplishment

>>45277831
I'm cutting myself right now. my upper arm is covered in scars now

>>45284332
I thought this until I actually started experiencing diabetes symptoms. You don't want this.

>>45284906
Please don't nonny.

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>>45284852
We're making each other worse and we need to figure out a way to make each other better. Anyway here's a post about the bonepill.

>>45277902
one must imagine SISSYphus happy

>>45284906
what a loser just cut your stomach open already

>>45283409
sometimes i wanna grab an insufferable roastie by the hair and chuck her across the room

>>45285195
redpilled
but don't do that to a fellow repper

>>45285211
i wanna do it to my mother but worried her scalp will rip off

>>45284906
im too much of a coward even to do that and so is he
>>45285184


>>45285195
you are cis. GTFO, if that is how you refer to women you will never be a woman or a repper

>>45285221
im highly sensitized to insufferable people

>>45284014
who is hilo and why did they draw us

>>45280397
>>45278286

>>45278286
these kinds of reppers vs military reppers who would win

>>45278967
even when you do have fun in the back of your head you just wish your female self could experience it instead of you

>>45279292
fuuuuck im 21 is it too late for me too?????

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unhappy passing trannies are so existentially blackpilling to me, maybe the world is just bad and no decision I could have ever made would have made it worth living in

>>45285314
ymmv but the cutoff is around 25 imo

>>45285314
>>45285359
There is no universal "cutoff" it depends on genetics, fitness, and how much money you've got. Luckshit richfags can transition at 40+ and have a reasonable chance at success.

either way though, if you fear 21 is too late, you will 100% feel worse about everything when you are 30 and still repressing.

>>45283803
Thank you so much. I'm really sad and confused and I don't know what to do but I really appreciate this.

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>>45280397
Good to see you nona.
>>45279834
>I don’t understand all the words sorry
:(

>>45280397
where's the "HRT won't unrape me and turn everyone into anthro girls" anon when you need him?

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>>45285745
Seething no one got my first post.

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If you have a bad bone structure you need to repress and father 2 kids. There is no other way guys. Men are not meant to be happy, happiness is for women and children.

>oh but i will troon out on the family and John 50
you wont, i believe in you
>but im gay
do ivf
>I will hate myself
everyone does.
> i will rope
The kids will deter you.

>>45285875
>passing the tranny gene on and condemning others to suffering

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>>45285911
whoever tells young men with a bad bone structure to troon out is actually evil and they just want you to ruin your life.

oh im not saying that girl has a bad bone structure btw, i think she is kinda cute its just a random timeline but yeah picrel very much not related

I just don't understand the furry thing personally

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>>45286064
this post is repperphobic...

>>45285354
go fuck yourself. no matter how much i want it off the hair always fucking comes back it never leaves its a permanent reminder of my horrible nature as a rapist and i need it gone i need my skin gone i need my face gone i need my hands gone i need it all fucking torn away until i am nothing

>>45285983
Is that supposed to be repfuel? she looks amazing.

saw what finnster looks like for the first time since ffs shes a mogger now and short enough to pass well and js giwtwm fml

>>45286089
no it isnt and yeah i agree. I just like posting timelines but i should have mentioned in the original post that picrel had nothing to do with what i was discussing.

>>45286089
yeah i bet my skull is also larger than hers. I hate life

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>>45279091
Becoming a disgusting dickless manlet isn't worth it. Trust me. Your afab mind likes to ruminate on this garbage instead of living life. Unless you break that cycle by depriving yourself of what triggers the thoughts (androgynous clothing, layering clothing, sleeping clothed, androgynous hairstyles, skipping makeup) you're going to keep coming back to it. It's like starving a fire of oxygen, it'll die down. Make sure you put a lot of effort into exposing yourself to the things that give you dysphoria, not only your body but the way you behave socially. Study up on things normal women do and find some women you like the appearance of (if you're attracted to them, that's even better). You have to learn to value yourself as a woman who sees the world in a "male" way.

>>45285983
I will say that she had a pretty damn rapey smile on the left, that while looks genuine and fine in that pic, would look kinda with how she looks now

I don't even know why i bothered to order diy. It feels like marie died a long time ago, when my mother told me she'd hate if if i was gay and my father told me that being called pretty was something i shouldn't like. transitioning now feels like pet sematary where she'll come back looking wrong and moving wrong and speaking wrong and possessed by something awful and evil that normal people notice but can't describe with anything but contempt and fear. i'm trying to carve out a new path for myself with a rubber glove and it all feels so pointless.

>>45286202
GET OUT

>>45286162
NTA but fuck you for encouraging repping without even knowing it's definitively over for him.
>>45286202
You are not a shadow of your parents. I know it sucks to not have their approval. Ultimately you're doing it for yourself. She will be okay and you'll be okay.

>>45286080
I want to be an anime girl not an animal. You do you though I'm not even judging I just don't understand it.

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>>45286197
I think its weird how its often people who have been less hurt by life who are more willing to take those risks and make decisions such as transitioning young and it works out for many of them, while other people have a terrible bone structure to troon out and we are also very fearful, because of the events of our lives, and idk maybe ill break at one point and the AI didnt even tell me at what facial/ skull length it is definitively over.

It just told me some bs and it didnt even tell me how much ffs can shave from the face, but id need something beyond a miracle to save my face. But its cool im rogd and ive only had this problem for 3 years and im sure it will go away.

And anyway this 53 yo woman i was stalking her profile and she is a transbian with a 25 yo trans son and she shared her stats: 6’3”, 210lbs, size 13W shoe*

But yeah skull size is everything and iwnbaw.

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Talk about it being over. Life is so unfair. I bet she is like true trans too. At least im rogd, i dont actually deserve to be a woman.

>>45285359
>tfw I'm already 24 and will be 25 soon.
Fortunately I will die by natural kms'ing before turning 25, Inshallah.

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>>45277890
Because they're weak, depressed, old and retarded. It's usually preceded by a ropeworthy episode of mental illness like THE john 50 case.
>>45280011
>6'5
Lol
>>45282071
This is true. Not much point in killing yourself, I feel like. We'll all die sooner or later anyways.
>>45283522
It's worse than that, because there is a difference between desiring and fulfilling that desire.
>>45284145
It's easy to hate moids but do you have the courage to hate foids?
>>45285875
True unironically.

>>45286356
> Lol
Not who you responded to but what do you mean by that
I'm also 6'5" and would like to know

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Probably the biggest piece of evidence that im rogd faketrans is that my skull is huge and if i was genuinely trans id have a decent bone structure to troon out.

I will never be happy.

>>45286395
>Probably the biggest piece of evidence that im rogd faketrans is that my skull is huge and if i was genuinely trans id have a decent bone structure to troon out.
literally. and a giant fucking manly frame and height, just spent all night dooming over this and now its morning

interesting youtube recommendation i got

https://youtu.be/MajfZIyHP8U?si=dFdqOK8WIFarVO47

How do cis men love when they are so tall and large? How do they not feel like a dangerous monster? It's so foreign to me

Why are we forced to go through male puberty just because its "natural"

I hate conservatives so much

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>repgen

>>45286538
idk, just different emotional needs and personalities i guess. Talk more about this if you want, id like to read your perspective. Im bi agp but yeah idk why lately ive been thinking i wish i could fulfil the role of a woman in a straight relationship.
>>45277890
youd have to ask an oldshit, but ive started to think that at a certain point, being more aware of their mortality, and having had dysphoria kick their asses for such a long time, they are so worn down that they stop being able to care about anything else, they probably just grow really tired of having to hide and they are like, even being a visibly tranny is better than repping. Also many of them are super ignorant about the limitations of surgery, they dont know much about the bone pill and they think ffs can save them even when it cant.

>>45286573
> Talk more about this if you want, id like to read your perspective
Sure, I can I guess. Puberty didn't work lightly on me, and I'm left with a body a lot of guys would probably love to be in (minus the fact I'm fat, but the base I mean). Being in my body I feel like I'm intimidating to anyone near, I'm constantly worried people are afraid of me. How are cis guys fine with that? The idea of taking pride in being so much stronger than others is just very foreign to me.

> Im bi agp but yeah idk why lately ive been thinking i wish i could fulfil the role of a woman in a straight relationship
{insert my normal rant about how agp is a consequence and not the cause here and blanchards typology is retarded bla bla bla}
I guess expanding on what I said above, being a man dominating a woman is something I've become so repulsed by. I'm repulsed by the idea that I used to want it. I just feel like such a different person than I was before my dysphoria became severe.

>>45286370
Isn't it pretty obvious?
About 1 in 1000 women is 6"5 or taller, and most of those have some sort of hormonal disorder causing them to be unusually tall.

>>45286657
I have a hormonal disorder called being raped by testosterone for 19 years

I'll probably end up manmoding soon. I'll probably kms if I don't at least let myself try HRT.

>>45286635
>The idea of taking pride in being so much stronger than others is just very foreign to me.
NTA but it's really interesting you mention this. I have a vested interest and desire in feeling this way, being like a gentle protector. But yet I still have AGP. I desire to do this in a female way, not in a male way.
I haven't told anyone that I secretly get filled with glee whenever my friends "mom" me as in, "okay mom" (you're so straightedge), "you're like my mother" (tough but true advice)... happened about 5 times so far from independent people. I see it as an embodiment of that. And fuck yeah I would roid as a woman, as long as it didn't fuck up my proportions or masculinize me.

>>45286691
> I have a vested interest and desire in feeling this way, being like a gentle protector.
Yeah fair, I'm the same way sometimes. If I can use my size to help someone feel safer then I am happy with that. I'm talking more-so in the way of just passively (or maybe competitively?) being happy that you're so tall and strong.

all I do is procrastinate

>>45286821
same i think i have some executive dysfunction or adhd or sm

the thing is that I actually really want to live, just not as this

>>45277831
Cute manly chavs need to rape my cringe hole(s)

masturbation is healthy claimers refuse to understand that masturbation makes some people fall asleep and that we can piss our whole life away like that if we want to. it's the most pathetic way to procrastinate away your life.

i might have to do it. optics nuke incoming im sorry, take cover

I shit myself on purpose because it feels good

Don't accidentally fall on a syringe full of estrogen on your way to work today repgen.

>>45286804
Well I think I would be passively happy I am strong. Perhaps you mean competitively, which I am not.

>>45287314
>repgen
>work

>>45286565
I already figured out that I will never be a woman.

>>45287378
Have you already forgotten our patron saint John,50 Who had a job and kids?

I don't want breasts therefore I am not a woman

>>45286538
anyone can easily understand why being big and intimidating can be useful
trying hard or just sheltered moron?

Thinking or caring about gender is so low iq. Why am i like this and then just imagine trooning out, unless you pass (highly unlikely for me) youd always have to interact with the online trans community to cope with your daily hardships, which im already starting to find exhausting.
>>45287446
same.

every day feels the same; im constantly miserable, and life is only going to get worse, so why should i not just kms now?

>>45287458
no sympathy for heighthons. height gives women privilege and respect like it does to men but heighthons act like perpetual victims. heighthons don't really want to be short because they know short amabs have stocky dwarf proportions but they lie.

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>>45287542