I'm going to be blunt, lgbt groups have an issue of encouraging wildly degenerate practices that will not do us any favors in the long run (drug use, sleeping around, public freakouts, consumerism, relying on welfare). We need to be building up in ways that matter if we are to have any chance in preserving our wellbeing. The following thread is dedicated to discussing ways to uplift our community in ways that will ensure we remain a productive and healthy populace.I'll start. Bottom line, we need to moralfag way more between each other.
Uh oh u said the magic welfare word Prepare to be bullied by the endless onslaught now of>YOUR BROKE ITS YOUR FAULT GET A JOB!! NOONE OWES YOU ANYTHING algo ._.
>>45283017talking about accountability on literal the 4chan is kinda a silly premiseGonna be getting a whole lot of sperm itt
>>45283017this is a website for sharing anime pornography
>>45283017Yuuuup. My local lgbt group is literally just a polycule . I just cant exist as a normal person anywhere.
>>45283017Moralfagging is retarded. Degeneracy is a product of material conditions, what we need is some kind of Black Panther-esque organisation which encourages mutual aid and community self-reliance. That will give us the stability to not act like promiscuous retards and nihilistic consumers.
>>45283017Yeah ppl are really bad at nuance and so they think if 1 thing thats widwely socially unacceptable(being gay) is not evil then no rules can exist whatsoever.
>>45283017>m going to be blunt, lgbt groups have an issue of encouraging wildly degenerate practices that will not do us any favors in the long runI know you're fresh out of the womb, but queerosexuals have been saying this since the Stonewall riots. The powers that be were locking up Ls, Gs, Bs and Ts long before that anyway. Shit, they made it a core tenant of most major religions for thousands of years. Two blokes snogging, an MtF DIYing hormones, or a twenty-three person bisexual fuck fest in a sex dungeon - it's all the same to bigots.
>>45283017truth nuke>>45283082truth nu- YOU WILL NOT BE DOING THIS, LOYAL CITIZEN OF THE CIS STATE. CEASE IMMEDIATELY.
>>45283171the degenerate behavior creates new bigots though
>>45283065It is imperative that we make separate groups that do not tolerate this behavior>>45283082>Create mutual aid institutions to uplift our communityYes, I am on board with this>moralfagging is retarded Absolutely not, excluding degenerates is essential to ensuring that the spirit and morality of a group remains intact.In other words, you need to quit drugs and get a job if you want benefits.If you need evidence of the alternative you can look at Americas snap program, which has done nothing but keep the people on it poor.>>45283171>they'll hate you anyways so its okay to just take k and goon all dayBeyond intelligent Nona. This discussion is not about optics. Though encouraging productive lifestyles will make more people less inclined to hate us.
>>45283291I want to do cocaine and have sex though
>>45283017>>45283082great minds itt. there is a convergence also with here >>45282600 and my own position on the issuehttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/pisas.htmlhttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/aspcte.htmlhidweh project for me is sort of like a trans nation of islam sort of thing but instead of believing in yakub or allah we believe in the mythology of the greater fleshcraft, making it our mission to liberate the flesh from fixity. we must develop the biological productive forceswe need to go beyond the tired contradiction between subversivists and people who care solely about optics. as transsexuals we have shared material needs such as hormones and surgeries. we should pursue such collective needs and stop caring about gender politics or getting cis people to accept us. id even go so far as advocate for trans militias as a means of self-defence in case governments scapegoating us go too far
>>45283630you are literally insane and the first person to be “gatekept” out of any space
i’ll paste what i put in another thread :3anyone who feels this way and lives in britain, please add me on disc: ulylelelyssei am very interested in building out spaces for trannies on the right to talk and organise and do mutual aid without being roped into the queer scene which, bluntly, uses and abuses and silences trannies regardless of how well they tow the line. we need an alternative :3i’m also happy to discuss in the thread why i think we need (national) syndicalism and a large amount of separation from the leftist queer community because i think a lot of us are sleepwalking at the moment
>>45283636i might be insane but i am not a coomer nor do i take drugs. instead i promote spiritual cultivation, material organization, and tranny social cohesion. the hidweth faith accepts even atheists as long as they share the same ethos of jihad against the biological givenhttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/lithp.html>The exact metaphysics (whether Hidweh is an actual entity, archetype, or symbol) is up in the air. One can hypothetically join us whilst being an “atheist” or “agnostic” metaphysically speaking. The commitments, to the culture and the transformation of the body, are more important.https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/>There has been a tendency with regards to religion and spirituality to overly epistemologize things in discussions (especially online). People place a lot of emphasis on "faith" and "knowledge" with regards to to the existence of various deities and the like. Religions then become a matter of believing a particular set of propositions. Of course, just from an anthropological approach, such a perspective limited. For instance, many Yazidi teachings are passed down aurally and there are a lot of variations in tellings. Despite a lack of standardized unitary doctrine, the Yazidi are still a unified religious group. What is more important for the individuation of their religion is the performance of various practices and the prohibitons placed on marrying outsiders. The latter is what lends it ethno-religious status. Something else that we find missing in an approach to religion which relies on the Understanding is the sense of religio. This pertains to sentiment and immersed participation in a certain way of life and engagement with various forms. Much of Shintoism, for instance, pertains to religio, and the concept of "kami" is illegible when taken out of this focus on engaged participation and respect.my schizophrenia is very sophisticated
>>45283716I use my schizophrenia for esoteric neo nazism
>>45283734i have serious writings on the metaphysics and practices of the o9a but i would not consider myself a niner as hidweth has different aeonic goals and my politics veers from that of ethical national-socialismhttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-08-27-How-to-Think-Organically.htmlhttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/phil/terseaeonmat.htmlhttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-08-29-The-Hidweh-Project-and-Satanism.html>>45283695>why i think we need (national) syndicalismi likely have similar reasons as you from what we have talked about but share
>>45283804not o9a I'm into odinism n shit
>>45283835>odinismoo interesting not too familiar with that. ive said this in another thread but i sometimes entertain the idea of hidweth being an ethno-religious group, but rather than whites or browns, the representative ethnicity would be subnotics who have red eyes and black hair. hidweh would then be an ancestral or tribal deity of the subnotic people. incidentally, part of hidweh's divine name is 'od' corresponding to odin .. but anyways my interest in o9a isnt really the race stuff but i like some of the related situated folkish ideas like that of mutterrechthttps://sinisterstudies.substack.com/p/veiled-strength
>>45283891what race did the subnotic evolve from
>>45283804You remind me of a group of people I met online who said they were going to build a bunker in Chile in preparation for the incoming Jewish-led nuclear war where afterwards they'd emerge into a "techno-anarcho-primitivist" society that they said would be like "Ark Survival Evolved" in real life and also there'd be cyborg implants involved along the way and consciousness uploading. Apparently they also were already blackmailing semi-important figures in order to gain money and power to fund such an operation
>>45283900subnotics have pale skin and red eyes cuz they evolved on antartica so i would say they were part of the groups which crossed the ice bridge from siberia to north america. as such, they are most closely related to the selk'nam people and tend to look like red eyed inuits. however they do have a significant population which remigrated to the old world, occasionally intermarrying with other tribes. the modern lyydhngoq language was primarily spoken by subnotics who settled in the welsh country side and other areas of northern europe before spreading to other subnotic communitiesmore lore:https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/silly/wthwho.html
>>45283949the only people in antarctica are researchersso whites and asians since everyone else is retarded
>>45283927ive sometimes joked about settling in parts of southern chile and argentina cuz they are the closest places to antartica but um im not that conspiratorial i think
>>45283960well the subnotic people are sort of a mythological people rather than a literal thing (yet). subnotics are close genetically to asians because again they come from a siberian population which eventually migrated to antartica
>>45283985eskimos are extremely different from patagonians/fuegians
>>45284025yes but like i said subnotics look inuit especially since they evolved in climates even closer to that of the arctic. fuegians are just like their last cousins before separating from the rest of humanity cuz obviously
>>45283017>public freakouts>relying on welfareGirl what? The others I understand but are these even real? Cis people already have the monopoly on public freakouts and welfare fraud.
>>45284225there are plenty of viral videos of trannies being autistic freaks that scream and cry when misgendered
>>45283017nah i kinda just wanna have fun and die early, humanity is already on the way out as a species anyways
>>45284240>plenty of viral videos of trannies>it's just some white honsIdk about that
>>45283017This has been a solved problem since the 60s, can't remember the exact rethoric but it was either something like "these fuckers will take the most respectable gay person and hang us with his guts" or "straggots rape children and beat their wives I don't give a fuck what they think is acceptable".Keep in mind the average normie is as disgusted by two attractive men holding hands as he is by you riding a dragon dildo. If anything you need to push for even more fucked up shit to have a made up extreme to throw under the bus : yeah you're a polyamorous transbian who's into pup play and the occasional golden shower but you never wanted to, uh, vore Rouge the Bat with your second lizard cock (the vestigial one) while both of you sit on cakes, those three guys who may by the one guy with two alts are weird. The sixty million of us are the good ones.
>>45284240well it's not like we can stop them
>>45284369this is the public's perception of us, whether you like it or not
>>45283630>Hellraiser themed democratic syndicalismA retarded ideology that will be destroyed within its first election. Don't talk about economics or ethics if you think democracy is anything close to just or representative.>>45283695National syndicalism is retarded and will only lead to your head being placed on a pike.>>45284372There will always be a few spergs, this does not mean we cant induce a cultural shift towards self reliance and dicipline. This starts by making groups that will not tolerate these victim mentalities or life ruining behaviors
>>45285009>if you think democracy is anything close to just or representativeit is more of a conciliarist system. the average person is only able to vote for representatives at the level of their local cooperative. at such a local level the everyman is a decent judge of what is immediately important. the main problem with democracy is that most people are not able to think very competently about more complex systems. voted representatives are the ones who are the leaders of their respective cooperatives and enter into a council with others within the municipality. municipalities elect a representative for their region and so on until the highest level of organization. this fashion of electoral system is much like the chinese system and it has proven itself to be far more effective than western democracy at actually getting stuff done>syndicalismi am not a syndicalist. i prefer organization based upon workers cooperatives rather syndicates. it has been empirically proven that workers cooperatives are far more efficient and longer lasting than traditional firms as they keep leaders accountable rather than let management accrue nepobaby bloat. a sovereign cooperative would simply be objectively superior to a sovereign corporationhttps://efesonline.org/LIBRARY/2016/worker_co-op_report.pdf
>>45285511boomp
>>45285009i actually like hoppe but you’re just a bitter annoying faggothon
>>45285511The true problem is that no representatived allign with the voter. You just get 2 comically polarized populists to pick from and neither has your interest in mind
>>45284397>this is the public's perception of usOnly applicable to white hons, because people don't view me that way
>>45283017>le heccin DEGENERATE!opinion discarded kys or honestly take some acid or something
>>45283017>The following thread is dedicated to discussing ways to uplift our community in ways that will ensure we remain a productive and healthy populace.Separation from the queer label and frankly a lot of the LGBT grouping in general that doesn't help usCreating some kind of online hangout that isn't just reddit or xitter both of which promote mental illness.Reach out to cis people with trans children or siblings more so they aren't confused about what's the best thing for their loved ones. In the long run, passoids should be marrying influential men and forcing them to be pro-trans. Feminists don't talk about this because it goes against their mythology, but 1st gen feminism was pretty much influential women nagging their husbands into supporting it. Make an endless stink about trans advocacy groups like ACLU trying to accommodate non-dysphorics It's a difficult scenario because we're outnumbered, but something has to change when even Hunter Schafer has to walk on eggshells around trans stuff being a medical issue. Remember picrel when they tried to crucify her for literally responding "!!!" to something?
>>45287163>no representatived allign with the voterthis is a consequence of two factors 1) representatives being bribed by corporation which exposes the flaw of capitalism as an economic system 2) voters are expected to directly expected to vote for the leader of the entire country. this is nonsensical. the average voter should not have a direct say on what should be done at higher level as the meaningfulness of their vote is gravely diluted and so there is less of an association between cause and effecthttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2026-03-27-Between-Materialism-And-Aeonics.html>Western democracies are fundamentally broken because representatives at the federal level are directly voted for by the citizenry and these representatives are afforded a great deal of control over the fate of the entire nation. What this results in is a strange state of affairs wherein people on one side of a continent seem to have an extreme say on the goings on of people on the other side of the continent. Such a dynamic not only breeds animosity, but damages individual agency and the assurance that competent representatives are the ones that actually rise to power. Naturally, the larger the pool of people your vote is meant to compete with, the less it actually matters. In general, it is much easier to have some effect on the dealings of your local community as opposed to those of an entire state. Furthermore, the more power is in the hands of local representatives, the more that voters are forced to vote responsibly as more immediate harm would come to them if they vote for a TV celebrity because he has charisma. the organic way in which authority should be cultivated should start at the local level and work its way upwards, ensuring that the average worker is more likely to have a deep familiarity for the representative candidates they are voting for, then council member represents a respective region>2 comically polarized populistsnot in china
>>45288393>2 comically polarized populistscontinuing, this is because of the way in which the two party system in especially america is structured. the two parties filter every possible candidate down to only two. notice that even within the context of just determining the candidate for a particular party, there is usually much less populist shitflinging as well.. having two parties naturally manufactures polarization and this is made worse by both parties being funded by the same corporations encouraging the bread and circus show to continuethe reason why the us is stuck at just two parties as well is because it runs off of a winners take all system. when you have ranked choice voting and proportional representation (a concilarist position especially achieves the latter in an organic fashion) this is much less of an issuepopulist politics which devolves into pure popularity contests also stems from what was mentioned earlier about voters having trouble thinking about more complex systems, the lack of association between cause an effect or skin in the game, etc. the chinese electoral form avoids these issues by preventing direct voting of representatives that are higher than the immediate local level. by the time you get to the level of xi jinping, he is selected by a council of experts who have themselves been filtered out by the council's process of hierarchical voting
>>45288498poke a subnotic on the cheek
>>45283017Amazing idea, lovely instinct. Good luck with implementation.You are absolutely correct, but the cause is also hopeless because learned helplessness is now the norm among 2/3+ of zoomers (cis, trans, doesnt matter). Moralfagging doesnt work either since everything, no matter how serious, is still ironic for them.>>45287841ngmi with this mentalitynon-dysphoric trannies (as in those who do transition) make it more often than dysphorics.yet in advocacy it's non-dysphoric non-trannies who get accommodated and you (not just you personally but generic you) continue to crap on women like me even though we stay away form all of this shit.t. srsoid non-dysphoric fetishist
how is welfare the same as being addicted to drugs or sex
>>45283630schizo schizo go away
>>45283630No offense but I'm not sure how successful your religion can be if it's just a bunch of hard to read text on a website. Christianity is so successful because they provide material needs (community, food) and have physical spaces with special representatives who dumb down the metaphysics so beginners can understand.
>>45283017Lol everyone in this thread knows this is unquestionably true.Yes look at all the cope.All you can do is cope.Cope cope cope.Keep ignoring the problem guys. It's totally everyone else's fault and not your own
>>45290155Facts! At this point, my test of whether someone is trutrans or just a fetishist on estrogen is whether or not they're willing to fight for their rights as trans women. Anyone who insists that learning self-defence and taking accountability for the state of our community is a waste of time or actively evil is a blatant and unironic leftist faggot.
>>45290230Yes, if you truly cared, you put aside political bs which largely exists to stroke your ego, and you'd focus on caretaking and maintaining a community that supports mental and physical health, stability, and personal growth. I understand these communities have a lot of trauma, but that simply means that those people who put their trauma before everything else should not be in a position of community leadership! The people who should be leading lgbtq communities are those who are the most put-together, but there is a kind of trauma around the concept of "normalcy". A healthy sane person is "normal" and that's bad because it reminds you of standards, and standards can be used to oppress. That's true, they can! But you must have *some* standards in order to be functional and to live. I also feel this is a broader issue with the entire left wing of politics. Having standards, health, and sanity, sounds "conservative coded".
>>45283250bigots breed other bigots, they are not spontaneously generating because of optics nukes
>>45288498Again, democracy is a spook that is inherently evil. Its not the capitalism infecting the democracy, its the democracy infecting the capitalism. Get your faggot ass larp out of my thread>>45289805Let me be clear, I am not against the problem of aid to those in need. Government welfare, however has the unique property of being inherently wasteful and raising the time preferences of those on it. In other words, its a misapplication of funds that runins the economy and encourages people to remain in poverty. Trannies need to become a group of people who are not reliant on government checks if we are to last long term.>>45287645I will not stop you if your self interest is in burning out. I will encourage people to not think like you though.>>45287841It is not about separation, its about improvement.>>45289768Convincing people of anything is an art. What matters is that we remain relenting in discouraging people's engagement with these activities. This thread is a good start, we'll need more like it to keep the idea alive.
>>45288689cwjhfaahwancaynjumhwanof ..>>45290029yes, well the material needs part is to be covered by sanguine socialism + biokinesis (if it is possible to master such a thing) and i believe in cultivating a spiritual elite of 'meedhsken' who shall develop new techniques and ways of communicating our ethos and weltanschauung to more lay practitioners >>45290523>is a spook im not a voluntarist so i dont care for this nonsense about "spooks". you might as well say thinking ruining your life taking drugs is bad actually is a "spook" like >>45287645>its the democracy infecting the capitalismhow do you explain worker cooperatives being more efficient and having better survival prospects than traditional firms then? what you are saying simply does not fit with the evidence>larpany mutual aid network would have to involve people paying out of pocket. it is far more efficient if you start your own enterprises in order to dedicate the profits to such a project. and then objectively the most efficient enterprise is that of the worker cooperative. for scaling this up one needs various cooperatives to form a federation, and the best way for these cooperatives to interface with one another is through a conciliary system as far as i know. again, it works wonders for china. where is libertarianism or whatever tried? somalia?
>>45290759>to be>who shallall future tense...you need those things now, or your ideas will never grow or spread...at most I can read your website and think "oh interesting, I don't fully get it but cool". then what? there's no way to translate that into practical reality, other than doing what I'm already doing (sex transitioning)
>>45290811>you need those things nowon the material side of things, i need to finish my masters first then i will probably get a job in finance or smthn. we also need a group of already high initiative people with practical skills and funds who can then form enterprises that get things going. ive taken notes on the acp's organizational activities and how they got to where they currently are. obviously haz is a weird guy, but his org has many interesting practical innovations such as the focus on starting charter enterprises, engaging in community service as a means of establishing local authority, and having charters run in a largely self-sufficient decentralized way. the main thing i would change from strategy is rely less on the vanguardist strategy, instead moving from the party form to a cooperative version of the sovereign corporationso the question is how did the acp get started? largely on the internet, mostly attracting a few people who were attracted to infrared's esoteric vision and haz's personality. i see myself at the stage of finding people attracted to the broader esoteric vision aspect of things in order to cultivate a dedicated elite that would get the rest of the ball rolling. i make all of my reasoning and references extremely explicit even if it means complicating things and referencing controversial stuff to give others as much power to innovate and develop their own ideas and practices to advance the cause>>45290759>you might as well say thinking ruining your life taking drugs is bad actually is a "spook" like >45287645also honestly more and more i lean into neo-confucianism as a foundation of ethics. china has a 5000 year old civilization and confucian philosophy can actually allow for a lot of dynamism without resulting in a nihilistic voluntarism which has infected western thinking. when i write my theofiction work it will combine neo-confucianism w sophiology and hidwish tiamatology to gesture towards the ethics of the future ..
>>45290811also have you seen this zine? what do you think about it?https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/lithp.html
>>45291150>i need to finish my masters first then i will probably get a job in financeI understand now, you're more than a bit removed from my position (poor, underclass) so it's hard to relate. When comparing to Christianity I think it appealed to the masses because it directly addressed things like housing, food, work, healing, love and belonging, etc. for poor and oppressed people. How does your "elite" differ from a vanguard if you're currently only gathering privileged adherents?Your zine is a good summary of your beliefs but it still lacks any sort of praxis or motivation for action other than further contemplation, which most trannies struggling to afford food or HRT probably aren't going to bother with...I think the most appealing aspect is biokinesis since it plays on existing desires of trans ppl.Anyway I want you to know I spiritually support your efforts, I'm just pointing out some of the flaws in your evangelism so that you can improve it.
>>45290759You said it yourself. Democracy let's the rich lobby for how to best rape everyone else. Get rid of democracy and they have to remain competitive. We've already seen what voluntary aid networks would look like in 1930s america. Lodge practices provided healthcare for dirt cheap and only started to go out of fashion when sanctions were imposed by lobbying medical firms.Of course you can still hold votes and elections within these services, if you're interested, but you don't get to vote on other people's properties.
>>45291475>How does your "elite" differ from a vanguard if you're currently only gathering privileged adherents?cuz meedhsken are not supposed to necessarily have political power. they are just early adopters to get the ball rolling as well as situated sources of moral authority. starting with the poor and oppressed who lack the time, energy, or resources to get things started just seems very inefficient to me. also even early christianity had dedicated missionaries and apostolic councils. in our community, where drug addiction, condemnation to prostitution, and in other places crab mentalities are prevalent, there is even more reason to acknowledge the necessity of such an initial division of labour>which most trannies struggling to afford food or HRT probably aren't going to bother withyes.. so if we want to develop the practices for mastering biokinesis first targeting people already struggling might not make the most sense>I think the most appealing aspect is biokinesis since it plays on existing desires of trans pplya which makes it a major priority imo>>45291590>Get rid of democracy and they have to remain competitiveget rid of democracy and every corporation becomes a de facto state capitalist absolute monarchy and the competition between such entities becomes simply realpolitik. rent becomes another form of taxation and the corporation gets to decide whether you are allowed to keep renting space in its company town or not. this is the true reality of the sovereign corporation. corporations also dont need the government to engage in anti-competitive practices to begin with but of course the government helps a lot>you don't get to vote on other people's propertiesworkers cooperatives are collectively owned. one way of doing this is to have all employees own a share in the company. this provides extra incentive for workers to be as productive as possible and to cut as much managerial bloat out
>>45283017Instead of engaging in faggot ass moral policing, tone policing and other assorted nonsense how about we just be normal and call shit out when it happens? No other minority group has to jump through these herculean hoops in social policing so why should we? Optics obsession is the biggest fucking social cancer right now.
>>45291475also another link i put near the top of the homepage is https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/how2.html which goes into initial spiritual practices. i also wanna write articles on moral cultivation n such soon though not sure how accessible such initial writings might be. when it comes to materially helping those who are struggling again i think it is best to begin building the base for an irl organization first. it is only from there we can even talk about starting proper community service initiatives. the early christians started off w the jerusalem ekklesia, not just some spontaneous thing
>>45292059>>45292122>first targeting people already struggling might not make the most senseBut the catch is that those are the people who really need/want a new religion right now, and would be most willing to devote themselves to it. People with extraneous time, energy, and resources are probably the least likely to want to bother with such an endeavor, they're content with achieving their transformation goals through non-spiritual means, such as buying surgeries. I think overall your position makes sense though, I don't necessarily disagree with your reasoning, just pointing out that you're in a tough position trying to balance the esotericism with the goal of spreading knowledge and creating IRL communities.Anyway I'm going to spend some time reading what you've sent me and try to further develop my thoughts on it.
>>45290404leftist meme>>45290523>spook>evilyou haven’t read the book >>45292084you and anyone who think like you needs to be physically removed from society :3
>>45283105this is probably why being a degen in the past was reserved for high iq/upper class. normies just can't into it
>>45292084<black people be like>I HAVE A DREAM.<latino people be like>WE ARE REVOLUTIONARIES<natives be like >NEVER FORGET WHAT YOUR ANCESTORS HAVE BUILT FOR THE SAKE OF YOU<asian people be like>RESOLVE IN THE FACE OF STRUGGLE MEANS CERTAINTY, CERTAINTY IS THE FACE OF TRUTH. <trans ppl be like>ummmm puppymama can u help me with mah w-4 idkkk what to dooo
>>45292575>are probably the least likely to want to bother with such an endeavorthis is true when it comes to self-interest. the average labour aristocrat tranny is more likely to think lean more into libertarianism and an "i got mine" attitude to a decent extent. the early vanguards had to do what they did more out of intrinsic motivation and full belief in the cause which can be harder to come by. idk currently what i look towards rn is what can be cultivated and organized in 6 years time, how solid a foundation can be built by then. after that further contradictions might become more pronounced with the democrats switched out of office. at such a time, these tensions could cause spontaneous reaction and to some extent organization from the trans community which could be capitalized upon towards further integration. that is one thing i am looking out for>Anyway I'm going to spend some time reading what you've sent me and try to further develop my thoughts on it.kk sounds good>>45292084>No other minority group has to jump through these herculean hoops in social policing so why should we?it is normal for minorities to understand that whatever they do will reflect everyone in their group. there was a time you had the black panthers and the nation of islam actively acting as sources of moral authority in the black community until they were sabotaged by the cia and turned into gangs. trannies struggle to get a lot of this because many of them did not live as a minority until they transitioned so they struggle to have this group consciousness. maybe this is why the trannies ive met who are the most pro trans separatist often have african ancestry. of course full group consciousness should go beyond optics (which is very likely a losing game) and should be about grasping trannies as a diaspora and hence should organize with this and asabiyyah in mind
