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>be me, ealy 20s cis AGP man on E
>disgusting libido much lower
>less ugly beard & body hair growth
>no more worries about hair loss
>emotionally much more open, alive, get better along with family, make friends as a guy
>perform better academically, can focus better
>still sometimes get envious of feminine women, but it's manageable now, since I know it's just remnants of my AGP
>identify as a man, like the social role even if it still seems a bit foreign, will never transition

I tried stopping HRT for a few months and hated it. Hated the high libido AGP, the beard, body hair, emotional numbness. Became depressed again. I've accepted that I will need this for the rest of my life.

How long is this feasible?
Is it a good idea to keep a really low weight to avoid breast growth, butt, curves? I already have slight buds from my first HRT attempt but they don't seem to grow rn.

Anyone's got experience with this lifestyle?
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>>45298580
Like a year before your boobs get too big to hide and people start yelling "tranny" at you on the street.
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>>45298612
So, assuming I
1) don't get huge breasts
2) live somewhere where ppl don't yell stuff like that
I'm fine?
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>>45298580
I'm dangerously close to doing this myself but I just want to purely microdose on E alone. Wondering the same thing but really hope the lowest doses don't end up equally dramatic given enough time. Am I out of my mind? Deranged trannies please let me know.
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aging as a man sucks and im not attached to the male gender or anything i just want to be pretty and be my own thing but im not into having boobs or rendering myself infertile, is there some way i can have my cake and eat it too or do all roads lead to growing tits here
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>>45298580
Why wouldn't it be feasible? The only potential threat is breast growth which can be kept to a minimum, and even then completely removed with surgery.
I've been on hrt since 20 and I'm 35. No one will know unless you intentionally out yourself. Keep your hair short and literalyy how will they know
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>>45298748
How did you limit breast growth?
I'm very hesitant to experiment with ralox
I am however considering keyhole in the future
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>>45298826
Ralox, binders screw your growth if you wear it while things get started, and of course you gotta eat big to get big. Be a skinny guy and your body won't have the calories to give you bazongas. I always hid mine with clothes since I didn't get enough to be noticable under a pullover or hoodie, and even with just a shirt on I could wear a size S seamless bra that kinda acted like a binder so it squished down what little growth I had to be unnoticable.
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It pleases me when these have pics clearly made by AI.
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>>45298910
If you refer to the picrel in my OP post, no, it wasn't

>>45298890
Wdym "little growth you had"
Did you get it removed?
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>>45298958
If you made that i suggest you start looking for your power cord.
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>>45298958
I mean I am 5'11 and 128 lbs I didn't get crap for boobs
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>>45298979
Why? Because it's low effort?
Why would I put effort into a 4chan picrel?

>>45298995
Ah, fair enough. Yeah, even though I'm skinny, I am neither that light nor that large. I guess anamaxxing really is the way

Besides that, do you have any dosage recommendations for combining ralox with e monotherapy?
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>>45298580
wtf are you talking about?
accepted that you will need this for the rest of your life - so what are you asking exactly? how to continue living on HRT without having to socially transition?
what's your HRT history?
t. deranged cis man that is now hopping off of hrt
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>>45299731
I'm asking how to minimize any suspicious clues others might get wrt me being on HRT, while retaining the emotional and libido supressing effects, without which I'll become depressed, disgusted with myself, self hating, socially numb and inept again.

HRT history:
>on E for 7 months (liked the effects aside from breast growth)
>off E for 2.5 months (wanted to try if it was all just placebo, and I could live happily just with the psych & emotional progress I had made on E)
>on E again for two months now, because I couldn't bear how T made me look, feel, act and how my AGP libido spiked again

I literally tried to go off E, couldn't manage, and wen't back on. I'm much happier again now back on it. That leads me to the conclusion that I will only be able to lead a fulfilling, non-bitter life on E, so I'll have to take it forever.
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>>45299965
You could easily have been "depressed" due to your hormonal balance being disrupted and requiring time to revert back to higher T levels. What regimen did you actually have?
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>>45298680
Low dose monotherapy is pointless because suppressing androgens (which you can do with higher E doses) is a major contributor to the effects of HRT.
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>>45299965
>off for 2.5 months
it takes longer than that for your LH and FSH to get your levels rebalanced
why would t make you act differently?
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>>45300071
I would rather have fewer things I wanted than risk developing breasts and having a conspicuously feminine face compared to before. I only wanted subtle changes and less risk to my scalp hair.
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>>45300051
5.3mg/7d
I mean, yeah, that could be an interpretation of how I described it. But I know that I must have had T levels comparable to before HRT because
1) hair loss was back in full swing
2) body hairs & beard were thicker again, and growing faster
3) fat redistribution was largely back to before (brow bone more prominent, hollow cheeks, waist line)
4) libido was back to pre HRT levels: daily compulsive, purely AGP driven masturbation with fully white and plenty ejaculate, compared to the little watery, transparent stuff I had on E
5) emotionally, I recognized my old, spiteful, numb self back in charge that had developed in my teenage years and was the cause of narcisism and alienation from friends and family

>>45300184
I wish I knew why it works for me this way
How long would it take for LH and FSH to get back to "regular"?
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>>45300572
>How long would it take for LH and FSH to get back to "regular"?
different for each person but 3 months would be a sort of minimum, even with good sleep and nutrition. longer for most people but it takes time for lh and fsh to stimulate more test production then let T level reach normal, then balance out shbg plus your body rlly does need a bit time to adjust.
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>>45300743
Interesting, thank you
So you'd think by giving it 1-2 months more time I could've felt more emotionally open, less burdened by my AGP, and less dissatisfied with my body becoming uglier and uglier (masculinization)?
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>>45300918
probably not if you dont want to be more masc looking but idk, I felt better for several months then ended up taking hrt again too
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>>45299965
if you were only off E for 2.5 months did your T even have time to properly recover? did you jump on PCT or something to restart it?
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>>45301005
And what is your status now? Cis man on HRT, or transitioned?
It seems there is truly no hope for normalcy with this condition :(
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>>45301052
I didn't have a bloodtest for confirmation, but the bodily and psychological symtoms definitely indicated proper T levels
for details, see >>45300572
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>>45301056
cis man on hrt for almost 3 years longer, ive been having health issues the past month and im feeling so bad im considering trying stopping to see if it helps
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>>45301081
Oh, thats unfortunate
What health issues if I may ask?
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>>45301101
moved two months ago an have had rlly bad insomnia since, like 4hr a night at most. i feel like ive tried everything to fix it and nothing has helped so i just feel awful all the time
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>>45301175
I'm sorry to hear that
I guess you can try stopping HRT, but personally, I don't see the connection between it and insomnia, esp. if it started after an external event (moving)
However, since we've previously found that I am not as educated in these manners (FSH, LH, ...) as you are, you should probably not give my advice any meaningful weight
Anyway, I hope you'll get better <3
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>>45298580
I'm incel and still can't find the courage to micro-dose. My life is a joke.
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>>45298580
hiding your breasts is the hardest part. I wear a binder, but this is only out of necessity, I think you could just wear baggy, boxy clothing and a compression shirt if you live in a more progressive place
but be aware, sports bras DO NOT bind your breasts, they are for support so your breasts don't bounce while running etc. they don't really help and are even detrimental, because you can see the outline of a bra through clothing easily
wearing boxy clothing makes you look more masculine unfortunately



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