the three thousand of qohor editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>25254940
Walk with me, my sweet summer child, and hear the tale of fat pink masts jutting into sopping wet myrish swamps and black nipples brushing against silk until her cunt became the world while in the privy the princess guzzled arbor gold and shat but the more she drank the more she shat until she was shitting brown water and around her the planks of the ship groaned like a fat man taking a shit while she cursed the gods and nuncle smiled as he broke his fast on black bread and bacon burned black washed down with mulled wine while capon-grease dribbled down his chin and onto the boiled leather of his jerkin for she was wet with love and did she not know words are wind and dark wings bring dark words and a lannister always pays her debts and mayhaps this is nothing but a mummers farce and useless as nipples on a breastplate and the princess has been fucking lancel and moonboy for all nuncle knows and he is the blood of the dragon for the night is dark and full of terrors but where do whores go and jon snow knows nothing and winter is coming and near enough makes no matter so nuncle smiled and dipped the heel of his bread into clam chowder and prayed for half a hundred more heh har HODOR
>>25282880Omelette du fromage
>>25282863>sabotaging your foreign rulers is bad or something
>>25282880Instead of clam chowder it should be sisters stew
One true stag!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfDqkIxPNrs
Im half tempted to try to use claude to make a text adventure game based on the tabletop rpg.
If the thing Stannis loved most was his daughter, then he would have Melisandre beheaded as soon as she suggested burning Shireen.
>>25282940Copypastas are the shared cultural heritage of anons, so I'm very cautious about making edits. In this case, I added "washed down" which is a definite asset, and in so doing, I was able to take out the commas there. That way, there's no punctuation after the opening clauses, which is funnier imo. Hopefully this will be accepted into the holy writ.>>25282957lol nice, quite a coincidence>>25282967It occurred to me that maybe the sequel to Azor Ahai will be a gender flip, with Dany as Azor slaying Jon as Nissa.
>>25282992>Dany as AAWhat else does she have aside from the "waking of the dragons" bit
>>25282967I just don't see how Stannis and his army could be in a position worse than his current predicament that would cause him to burn Shireen. That 100% sounds like a thing Melisandre and Selyse will do out of desperation once they hear word of Stannis's trouble (possibly from Tycho Nestoris or Justin Massey). The show producers clearly didn't care about Stannis as a character, so I'm hoping they simply misattributed someone on Team Stannis doing it as being "Stannis did it" Idk, maybe I'm coping
>>25283048I think George always envisioned stannis burning shireen. If anyone would choose saving the world over saving their only child it would be duty obsessed stannis. It’s not like he wants to do it, to him he’s doing what he has to do, and he’s the only leader steeled enough to do something like that for the greater good. I don’t cope about stannis not burning shireen anymore, my cope is that burning shireen will break him and he’ll join the others and be book version of show night king
>>25282788>It's kinda difficult to get cool Arryns when anytime there's a conflict in Westeros there's either a woman in charge of the Vale or an old geriatric man.Maybe that's one of those intentional reoccurring themes with some Houses?>Baratheons are loudmouth cucks>Greyjoys are retards stuck repeating the mistakes of their past>Arryns always have weak leaders during times of crisis
>>25282510>why do people think Jon is getting another romance after Ygritte that isn't just a fling.He's already dreaming of marrying val lolJon and Dany's stories are parallels to each otherDrogo/ygritte were their first loves, then there's daario/val which is more of fling and then they will be each other third and strongest love (because martin loves his rule of three)
>>25282992I noticed dany and jon are also most likely set up to be the gender bender version of the night king and his corpse wife
>>25283161>>25283168Ship so bland it got mogged by Jonsa of all things lmao
>>25283483Now this is something you can thank the show forD&D clearly had a soft spot for jonsa since season 6 or they just thought cousin incest would be better palatable for normies than aunt/nephew incest but martin probably insisted for jonerys anyway
>>25282859I still remember that day 12 years ago when battle of the blackwater cemented Tywin as my favourite character. And now that I'm reading the books I like him even better. "Let them remember what happens when they march in the South" still goes so hard.
I want a story set in Valyria in all its glory
Is there a possibility that perhaps George misspoke when he said that Stannis will burn Shireen?
>>25283856>Shireen will burn Stannis
>>25283862You telling me that's what he actually meant?
>>25283871No, I'm joking
>s-s-stannis w-won't burn shireen >b-b-bran w-won't become king>d-d-dany w-won't go batshit crazyA song of cope and seethe
>>25283647so do I. In fact, you could write an entire book series set in Valyria. We should've at least seen the ruins via Euron, which goes back to another anons suggestion: more one-off POVs would've been better.really good pic btw
>>25283925>why do you think I came all this way, heh?I still have PTSD, bros...
D&D had key info about the ending straight from martin himself, but they kept giving major character arcs to other characters insteadOne of those cases I believe is the "mad targ" plot see ADWD opens with clear foreshadowing to jon warging into ghost, while also establishing that untrained wargs can easily lose themselves and go mad and no one will be there to teach jon on how to control his warg abilities, it’s likely he may even attempt to warg into a dragonI believe after the long night, jon will be the one who goes madI think D&D learned about that and refused to follow it, since they had built Jon much more hero-like than he is meant to be in the booksDany will be forced to stab jon, maybe in a brief moment of clarity he'll accept it just like nissa nissa fullfing her azor ahair prophecy
>>25283647I want another Scream Against The Storm.
>>25284008Even you know this is cope. Cmon man get off it
>>25284009>Scream Against The Stormjust read the prologue, and this is easily some of the best fanfic I've ever read. appreciate the rec
>>25282197>all the southern Great Houses, including the Lannisters, are First Men housesNow that's just plainly wrong. Arryns were already mentioned, Tyrells were founded by another Andal adventurer, which is why all other Reach houses reach for Highgarden, old Gardener seat. Tullys are technically First Men, but first Tully lord of Riverrun-to-be was vassal of the Andal king and a traitor to the last Mudd King of the Trident. Original house Martell, before the coming of Nymeria, was Andal.>including the Lannisters, are First MenAre they?>https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Joffrey_Lannister>Joffrey Lannister, born Joffrey Lydden, was the first King of the Rock of Andal descent.Ser Joffrey, a knight of House Lydden, was married to the only daughter of King Gerold III Lannister, who was of First Men ancestry. When the king died without male issue, Joffrey was crowned by a council and took the name of House Lannister.
>>25278309we do in fact love jonsa
>>25284121>TyrellsNot a great house btw>Tullysame
>>25284202Hail ser Cope! Ours is Bullcrap!
>>25283925Dany will go bat shit because thats how i always saw her. She is a terrible ruler and all her choices will come back to bite her driving her mad. Stannis wont burn shireen though. And no they wont have some retarded elected monarch
>Stannis wont burn shir-ACK!
>>25284447George said he liked house of the dragon. He just has to say shit so he can keep making all the tv he wants
>>25283168>>25283483I think night Jon will marry zombie Cat?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqcJMMWB_T4
>>25282967>>25283077Character development, the Stannis we first meet WOULD have burned Shireen if he had his back against a wall, just like he relented on burning his nephew. Now i fully expect the mannis to remember Ser Davos (who might have died trying to get Rickon back) and come back to his senses.
>Stannis will back Jon for king >Jon will marry shireen>The baby will be the stone dragon
>>25283856>>25283877>>25283925>>25284447>>25284498>>25284530>>25282967>>25283048>>25283077You people are such fools to NOT HAVE LEARNED to intepret Martin's words properly AND / OR to take them at face value, disregarding that he may simply be LYING !!!FIRST OFF, check again his exact wording:>"I told [the showrunners some twists like] Stannis's DECISION to burn his daughter."keyword: "DECISION".This can go MANY ways in the actual books, such as Stannis DECIDING to do it, but then NOT ACTUALLY *doing* it.ORHim DECIDING that *SOMEONE* has to burn, but his orders get MISINTERPRETED or something...(for example, he orders by raven: "Do whatever it takes to grant us favor!" and then Melisandre / Selyse WRONGLY take that to mean "SHIREEN BURNS !!" )ORit's an accident of some sorts due to miscommunicationetc.etc. you get the idea.ORMartin could have simply LIED, like he does ALL THE TIME.For example, he said in his latest Hollywood Reporter interview that he's gonna KILL SANSA off in Winds.NOPE. Not happening..
let's get serious for a minutethis year is commercially the perfect time to release winds because:>the series is turning 30>we had dunk&egg which turned out to be a sucess>we have HOTD s3 which yeah kinda sucks but will still make good numbers on hbo>we have the mad king play which might spoil some important plot points related to R+L>a got game coming at end of yearI hate to say that because I don't want to sound like one of those retards wishing dead upon old man over a fantasy book but if winds don't come out this year I think it'll be oficially safe to assume it just ain't coming out anytime soon while martin is still aliveyou gotta be dumb to believe the book ain't at very least 85% done and ready to come out, if martin wanted to release it next week he probably could, I won't try to guess why he just doesn't do it as it's pointless and I think it's a mix of many reasons (mainly personal reasons)so we have two sceneries on what might unfold on the next months/yearsgood ending>martin releases the book this year>he finally accepts help from other writers to finish ados while still being the main supervisor and writerbad endind>winds don't comes out this year, martin dies and they release the most recent version he had>they hire a few writers to write ados and have martin's closest friends as supervisorsone way or another I do believe we are getting the books, simply because this series has become such an easy cashbag I'm sure HBO is already thinking of a reboot to the show but for this to work they need the books finished whetever it's by martin or someone else
>>25285108Copium is never in short supply on grrm
We are never getting winds or dreamWe are never getting a good game (that isn't a mod)We are never getting faithful shows or moviesGeorge doesn't care, he just pretends to so suckers keep sweeping for him
My new (old) cope is that the fat man is already writing Dream yet he won't release the books because he knows people's interest on his other shit will wane once everything is out.
>>25285063Why did you include me when i was agreeing with you
>>25285063I'm not reading that because you wrote it all retarded
>>25282967>“It may be that we shall lose this battle,” the king said grimly. “In Braavos you may hear that I am dead. It may even be true. You shall find my sellswords nonetheless.”>The knight hesitated. “Your Grace, if you are dead—”>“—you will avenge my death, and seat my daughter on the Iron Throne. Or die in the attempt.”>Theon I, The Winds of WinterIt just doesn't seem in character to burn Shireen. Stannis would burn himself before his daughter. It seems more reasonable Melisandre and Selyse to burn Shireen without his consent (probably to resurrect Jon Snow) and then cause the implosion of the Baratheon family and Stannis to apostatize from R'hllor, then doing a Rob's Will kind of thing where he legitimizes Edric and/or Mya and declares them his heirs before dying.
>>25283929Yeah GRRM even confirmed he's been there. Would love to hear what all he's seen from Aeron's or (potentially Sam's and Cersei's) POVsThe smoking sea is really dangerous. Wonder how he got through. Wonder what gave Balerion those nasty scarsboth pics by thewatcher0nthewall
>>25285108>a got game coming at end of yearo really? Which one is that? :OOtherwise, I mostly fully agree with your post. In particular, I'd like to address:>if winds don't come out this year I think it'll be oficially safe to assume it just ain't coming out anytime soon while martin is still aliveAgreed.At this stage, it's not even JUST Martin's age -- in fact, THAT aspect is the LESS bearing one.It's also the "closing in" of the "World Order" -- look at how "on-edge" everyone and eveything is. Even if Winds DOES get finished, how exactly is it gonna get CIRCULATED outside the US, with all the restrictions on trade, travel, etc. .. ??However, one thing I DISagree with is your "time window" you gave: "Either THIS year or never."Hm, I'm thinking 2027 is ALSO suitable.Beyond THAT, however -- yes -- we can and SHOULD forget about it... :/>I'm sure HBO is already thinking of a reboot to the showI think the best way to do it would be as an animation, though.As much as everyone LOVED GoT, I think even the most hardcore fans would find YET ANOTHER live-action a bit banal.I know I would. PLUS it would appear like a "disrespect" to the original cast, like saying to them:"You weren't good enough, so we got new guys to play the roles all over again !">>25285144>My new (old) cope is that the fat man is already writing Dream yet he won't release the books because he knows people's interest on his other shit will wane once everything is out.I *KINDA* agree, but NOT EXACTLY.More like:He's trying to "time" tWoW's announcement to "sync it" up, line it up with SOME OTHER big woiaf-themed project.KINDA LIKE how Thrones season 1 was (almost) synced up with A Dance with Dragons' release.Many people theorize that the upcoming STAGE PLAY (about the Tourney at Harrenhall), at which GRRM would PERSONALLY ATTEND, would be precisely the witness to the SURPRISE LIVE ANNOUNCEMENT of Winds' completion.(there's also comic con, so THAT would work too.)Let's hope!.>>25285562who is that... uh... *CORPSE* ? (body? lich?)
>>25285063>>25285604Nigga, I fucking beg you to write normally.
