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Since it was paywalled in the last thread. I will be posting more. If you have a request for a particular article that is paywalled, let me know
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>>25297792
>teens reading Lukács
Doubt
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>>25297799
It depends a lot on your household. My reading habits started early but my taste was initially entirely that of my father's and it was also philosophy and economics albeit not Marxist. He liked stuff like The Law of Civilization and Decay and The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind which he gave me for birthdays early on
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>>25297817
I didn't read Crowd until way later, but reading Le Bon was like reading my inner thought process at play.

>>25297799
Lukacs is one of the few tolerable Marxists in existence, although the concept of reification is much better explained in a mystical reading of Schopenhauer's will. or in anthropological treatments of animism, which are better and more honest treatments of the subject at hand. the problem with Marxist reification is the material basis in which it comes from, which unfortunately without this materialism it ceases to be Marxist. most Marxist theory is absolute dreck, though.
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Article: Politics After Literacy
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>>25297842
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>>25297849
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>>25297785
>YA then:
13 year old kid discovers he's half god and has to fight monsters.
>YA now:
Mary Sue meets a fairy man and a half demon and she has to decide who to fuck.
these are dark times for young teens.
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Article: The Therapist Will Raise You Now
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>>25297863
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>>25297866
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>>25297869
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>>25297873
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>>25297836
Animism is closer to Marxist materialism than western spirituality, since Marxism argues that consciousness is the process of matter-+which in Marxism is synonymous with flux described by Heraclitus--coming to know itself. Monad materialism is retarded though, no doubt about that
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>>25297883
I agree but Marxists shoot themselves in the foot when they cannot explain anything independent of said matter
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>>25297897
Non-dualists shoot themselves in the foot by not explaining why dualism is true?
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>>25297899
Why dualism and not pluralism is the bigger question.
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>>25297900
Occam's razor
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It's crazy reading left-leaning articles. There's always this air of "yes we know we ruined everything. But we meant well...".
Maybe just stop ruining everything.
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>>25297927
>socialization of capital ruined everything
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>>25297866
>"I know, but why are they so much bigger than us..."
He did not say that.
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>>25297933
The entire article is paying lip service to things like "black voices", and "the importance of recapturing culture in a post-Trump world". They still believe all of that shit is important and correct, they just tacitly accept it also ruined a lot of what should be entertainment.
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>>25297935
>I know, I was the monster under the bed
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>>25297951
Socialists have ALWAYS been in favor of Black emancipation. This is not even just about entertainment though and you can't possibly believe that if you finish the article, it is about adults becoming more childish and the child market pandering to childish adults.

There is a major gulf between socialist left and liberal left. To illustrate, here is from another Jacobin article on gun control

>For instance, in Chicago — whose gun violence people tend to bring up in a trollish way, to minimize massacres — local activists were able to produce a trauma center. So on a triage level, if you have trauma centers, and if you have expanded medical care, people are less likely to die of gunshot wounds. They’ll simply get to the hospital faster. It doesn’t satisfy the perverse impulse of a liberal who wants jackboots with guns to kick down the doors of white people with guns, as if that’s a solution to gun violence
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>>25297959
it's the pleading tone of the whole thing. They take a big shit on the floor, and then turn around and go "yeah, but...". Stop shitting on the floor, you lunatic.
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>>25297966
The phenomenon's cause according to the article

>But childish media — made for, marketed to, and consumed by adults — is everywhere, YA books being only one symptom of a broader cultural infantilization. The economy “is foisting an extended adolescence on us,” writes James Greig in Dazed. Full-grown adults are eagerly buying up such juvenilia as Disney trips, Marvel movies, and LEGO sets in massive numbers. Baby-men and baby-women are retreating into permanent adolescence, and Greig wonders what choice they have, given that “adulthood is something that has been denied to many of us, who couldn’t buy a flat or start a family even if we wanted to.”

>His solution to this has an air of bootstrapping: “We can still choose to see ourselves as capable of changing our own lives and the world around us.” Sure, but that takes a lot of effort when you’re depressed about all your missed milestones. What millennials call “adulting” is difficult, and the urge to escape it certainly isn’t specific to our time. What is unique now is the sharp decline in media made specifically for adults. One only needs to look at today’s Hollywood and its insatiable hunger for IP-driven blockbusters (read: superhero flicks).

This has nothing to do with socialism. What you are complaining about, that you want manchild media that isn't "woke", is totally distinct from what the article is about.
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>>25297979
Well of course they're only ever going to tip-toe around what they did. The truth just as much told in what they choose to omit.
The fact of the matter is entertainment to children isn't appealing to children anymore, and it's because it's politically captured by people who don't want to appeal to children. They want to capture as many pieces of culture as they can, and have it reflect their own beliefs, just in case someone gets the crazy idea of not believing what they believe. And they want to make sure "diverse voices" outnumber the voices of great storytellers.
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And let's be real, it was the left who told people it was okay to be manchildren too. Not "capitalism". Capitalism was doing just fine selling adults neckties and shoe polish, and selling toys to children.
The problem is that even having a notion that some behaviours aren't appropriate behaviours for adulthood is ageist and conservative.
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>>25297992
It's because adults have more disposable income than kids. Like thr article says, 55% of YA is sold to people over 30 and more than 80% of those buyers say they are buying it for themselves. This market logic didn't stop at YA, it applies to toys and comics and all sorts of other things. Capitalism changed the ideology to pander to their adult market for kid stuff.
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>>25297997
Let's be real, manchildren are better consumers for capitalism. Opening the toy market to grown men with an income and no family is a dream come true for marketing
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>>25297998
Adults have kids, and can buy them things.
>>25298000
I don't see how. You can sell people all kinds of shit, when you tell them it's a prerequisite for being a respectable adult.
>does your wife want to be seen with a man who only owns one suit?
That kind of insecurity is a very powerful thing to prey upon.
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>>25298007
Emotional maturity makes you *less* susceptible to marketing, not more
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>>25297997
>And let's be real, it was the left who told people it was okay to be manchildren too. Not "capitalism". Capitalism was doing just fine selling adults neckties and shoe polish, and selling toys to children.
The problem is that even having a notion that some behaviours aren't appropriate behaviours for adulthood is ageist and conservative.
Most socialist countries historically have been very formal about one's presentation, attire and way of living. The very phenomena of mass produced children's media stems from capitalist nations to begin with. With birth rates declining every year and kids becoming increasingly addicted to screens over playing with toys it's no wonder the few players left on that industry changed course away from appealing to exclusivly children, that's just how the market works. Capitalism is not an united force where every CEO ever gets in a board room and says "kay let's all collectivly do X" like a secret society but countless different agents, mostly corporate these days, acting by their own accord to reach their own objectives be it cooperating or competing against each other. The gym industry got so big because the food industry went overdrive these last few decades with absolute lab made gunk, the toy industry started going towards adulto because electronic games and cellphones stole their target demographic away. Im not a socialist but this is just fucking retarded
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>>25298011
bullshit. The adult instinct to keep up appearances is very powerful.
How many fancy sets of plates do you need? How many times a month do you need to take your family out, to prove you aren't poor?
>>25298014
We're not talking about Communist Russia. We're talking about the world we live in now.
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>>25298015
Fashion is not new or adult, kid's fashion is still a huge business. I don't know why you think selling expensive fashion to adults is mutually exclusive with selling them expensive toys.

>How many fancy sets of plates do you need? How many times a month do you need to take your family out, to prove you aren't poor?

What century are you living in? The whole crisis explained in the article is that more and nore adults are growing up to be manchildren because families are too expensive. Buying a bunch of toys and disneyland for yourself is still affordable to people who would struggle to afford children
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>>25298024
I don't think there would be any market at all for selling toys to adults, if it hadn't been made socially acceptable first, and it was made socially acceptable because we aren't supposed to discriminate. Not against minorities, not against lifestyles, and not against people who perceive themselves as grown up children. It's logically consistent.

I think the notion that families are too expensive is nonsense. I think people aren't breeding because they're demoralised, primarily. It's usually poor people who have more kids.
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>>25298029
The ruling class--capitalists in this case--dictates what is socially acceptable.

Poor people have kids but can rely on heavy state support for them
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god bless
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>>25297912
Inadequate
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>be me
>click on a jacobin article off of a google search
>article shows up but for only one gasmo-second
>suddenly mcafee ads rape my screen
>have to mash the back button to get back to the page
>the article is just jerking off Noam Chomsky
>clearly written by an AI ('it's not x, it's y')
>mfw
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more leftist conspiracy theories about how anyone who likes things i don't like has been tricked somehow i see
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>>25297959
>Socialists have ALWAYS been in favor of Black emancipation
At the expense of whom, may I ask? You can't give rights without taking the rights of others. The whole "there's no such thing as a free lunch" thing.
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>>25297927
Half of it is right leaning, though...
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>>25298007
Well if women weren't so judgemental it wouldn't be an issue at all, wouldn't it?
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>>25298062
At the expense of the capitalist class.
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>>25298059
>('it's not x, it's y')
i see people bitch about this but what does it actually look like in the wild? something like:

jacobin isn't a mag by a bunch of boomers trying to groom naive kids into supporting their failed economic policies, it's a bunch of boomers trying to trick u into paying their paywall to read echo chamber resentmentslop.

is that how it goes?
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>>25298030
Lol. Lmao, even.
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>>25298066
Thats just codeword for white property owners. Don't be a disingenuous fucktard.
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>>25298063
It's critical of liberalism and often has Marxist articles but that is a little different from right-leaning.
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>>25298060
I love how Fascism is both a cult of suffering and a cult of comfort.
Animal Crossing is fascist and so is Elden Ring.
Hallmark movies are fascist and so is WH40k.
The Shack and The Necrophiliac.
Anything marxists don't like.
Love that.
Non-fascism is when you are lukewarm, and do not contain multitudes.
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>>25298073
>The distinguishing feature of Communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property [privatized capital].

-The Communist Manifesto

So if you mean in the sense it is at the expense of privatized capital, including white, yes. Cuba does not even allow anyone to own more than one home, unless they use the second home for vacation and not yo rent out. They have a much better literacy rate than America and the same Black demographic because they were also a slave country
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>>25298084
The right labels anything they don't like as communist. They did it with Obama kek
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>>25298007
Women do not care if a man owns multiple suits, do they? Any marketing campaign based on that would fall flat. Also by advertising like that for nice clothes you will actually drive away their corr market, same reason you don't market like that for caviar
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>>25298087
>no u
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>>25298174
But it'a true. There is nothing in that article about fascism whereas we have anon in this thread saying the phenomenon it is criticizing is communism
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>>25298178
I'm not talking about the article (because I'm not reading it), I was replying to someone in the thread.
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>>25298184
Why are you in a thread about articles if you aren't interested in the articles?
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>>25298085
At the end of the day that doesn't really matter because of what its a pretext for.
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>>25298190
I come to this board to discuss politics and everyday life, not fucking walls of text
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>>25298015
Thats more of a Veblenite argument not a Marxist one
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>>25298191
Why are you asking me thesd questions if your intention from the start is to ultimately say, "Hold it, hold it. I don't care about your answer, at the end of the day all that matters is my answer"?

That's called arguing in bad faith. Or, more informally, making incoherent grunts while deepthroating dick
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>>25298196
WELCOME
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ENJOY YOUR STAY
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>>25298207
I've been on /lit/ ever since Trump became a thing, newfag
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>>25298205
>more informally, making incoherent grunts while deepthroating dick
Nice job projecting your deepest fetishes
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>>25298223
Fellatio is a "deepest fetish"? Are you a Mormon, or something? I can't image single man today who isn't a virgin who hasn't had his dick sucked, and even many virgins have
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>>25297959
>capitalising black
Go back
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>>25298417
I capitalize Black because it is a unique ethnicity in America descended mostly and specifically from the class of owned slaves and legally distinguished and segregated from all others until after WWII, which gives it a fairly homogenized history. If 90% of Blacks in America were African immigrants who came to the country from an assortment and classes and stations throughout the history of the country, then that would be a different matter
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>>25298431
These criteria aren't the basis for other forms of capitalization though.
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>>25298443
Other forms of capitalization generally lack those criteria, their capitalization is based on a common linguistic or religious or nationality. Blacks have a very defined ethnicity in America but not based on any of those criteria, no.
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>>25297785
Jacobin has sucked for like 15 years, newfag.
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>>25298453
What periodical do you recommend?
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>>25298454
None. The internet exists.
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>>25298454
P.S. Jacobin was founded by a jeet with rich parents.
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>>25298457
I prefer substantial thought pieces to twitter for the same reason I prefer film to tiktok
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>>25298459
>thinks the internet consists of Twitter and TikTok
NGMI
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>>25298464
If you intended to be specific instead of general, you weren't.
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>>25297866
>close to 40 percent of Gen Z has received treatment from a mental health professional, and the same share has a diagnosis

Fug
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>>25298466
If you intended to make sense: you didn't.
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>>25298431
>capitalising black
Go back
BTW enjoying food and loving your family isn't unique
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>>25298496
Specific in the English language means particular, exact. General means in extremely broad and sometimes useless terms, like, "the internet". In our language they are often used as antonyms and contrast
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>>25298497
>>25298431
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>>25298500
>sperg
Not interested, sperg.
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>>25297876
>>25297873
>>25297869
>>25297866
>Whatever you do, get outside yourself. Because the self is where unhappiness lies. Volunteer, go for a run, hang out with your friends in person.
Glad millennials are old enough now to be writing Boomer-esque "Kids these days have got it all wrong" dreck.

>...I put an end to the therapy. I began using the early morning hours to go, instead, to the gym or volunteer, which made me feel physically and mentally stronger, certainly more so than lying on that velvet sofa.
>A recent meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials shows that my experience is not novel: exercise alleviates anxiety and depression better than medication or therapy... [etcera etcera] ...But today's kids don't get the opportunity to find this out for themselves.
Ignoring the utterly retarded implication that "kids today" haven't tried going outside or working out, this whole article could not be more regressive if it tried. Take out the references to capitalism and these are the exact same conclusions that any 70 year old conservative baby boomer would draw with regards to Gen Z's increasing reliance on therapy: society is at fault, self-care (specifically therapy / self-analysis) is narcissism and therefore invalid, everybody hurts so your trauma is no excuse to feel bad about yourself, suck it up and go to work.
"Exercise alleviates anxiety and depression better than medication or therapy." The ONLY way you could believe this is if you have no conception of what serious anxiety / depression looks like. It's not "Ahh man, I get so nervous talking to people", it's "If I have to go outside today I seriously might kill myself." When your mental health declines past a certain point it literally will not recover without medication or intensive therapy; telling someone to go to the gym to cure their suicidality is like telling them to go for a jog so their gunshot wound stops bleeding. It will only get worse so long as you ignore the real problem.
>There is also the pain and grief that comes from our innate human frailty... It's this kind of suffering which unites us.
Oh, your father raped you as a child? Well, Mike over there lost his goldfish the other day. See, everybody hurts!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3c9eBNxxDk
You want to know why Gen Z is seeking therapy? Because they can't connect with their parents. How do you explain your depression to someone who, for all their life, has been conditioned to equate depression with sadness?
For the first time, we have a generation who isn't afraid to talk about their problems, one with the terminology and the outlets for figuring out, more clearly than their parents ever could, who *they* are. Are we really gonna brush all of that away as feckless narcissism, and instead follow the author's lead in "rearranging society" -- as if the 100000th societal paradigm shift will be the charm?
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>>25298641
Society is at fault and therapy works to deflect from stuff like labor alienation. Loneliness, alienation and material emasculation are at the root of most the mental anguish and anxiety Z is going through.

I am someone with clinical depression and I've been hospitalized multiple times for being suicidal. Therapists can be helpful if you find a good one but most are absolutely unhelpful dogshit. You say the advice is regressive but it's the exact same shit therapists will tell you, except they will pathologize all the negative feelings you have which are normal human responses to capitalism. Ultimately there is not much you can do about these feelings in a personal way except exercise and socialization, they can only be fixed as a class
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>>25297785
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>>25297825
>Jacobin is now downstream of right wing twitter
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>25298662
Right-wing twitter pushes for cuts to state funding of the arts bro, not expansion of such funding.
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>>25297979
>It's because I can't afford an apartment for myself is why I drown myself in funko-pops and Lego sets.
Dumb take ngl. Some people just have Peter-Pan syndrome and never actually grew up.
I have a neighbor who on a cop's salary is able to raise his son and support his stay at home wife while living in an apartment. I have a friend who despite making six figures and owning a townhouse, is not married nor has any desire to start a family. It's a choice.
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>>25298665
The entire cultural moment that article is embedded within is a right wing twitter thing. This is nearly as much of a cultural coup as if they'd dedicated an entire article to "chudjak represents the collective unconscious of the working class and always has: He must be reclaimed from the far right" or similar. It's "down stream".

And how retarded do you have to be to think that sociopathic boomer bureaucrats—Germans no less—are better taste makers than the market. The world they're asking for is where the only books that get published are 1000 page Marxoid doorstoppers that not only fail to address anything rooted in the 21st century but that basically no one would read. Such a world would be, in the balance, far less literate than the world we have today.

Funding for art (if distributed more fairly—even randomized approval would be better than how things work across the West) is, considered in isolation, a good thing. I'll give you that.
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>>25298682
Median police income is 77k. At *entry level* it is 44k which is above management for most jobs.
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>>25298240
I would not call someone whose had their dick sucked 'a virgin'. Lest we get into a Clerk's tier argument.
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>>25298683
>how crazy and absolutely insane would you have to be to think Continental cinema is better than American cinema

Haha, yeah, haha that would be wild, hahaha....
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>>25298700
Both are terrible. Movies just aren't a very good art form in general. The last one I enjoyed was Stalker and before that maybe Taxi Driver or some A24 slop I forget the name of. It has no bearing on my point either way, of course: The point is that more diversity of production (ie capitalism + anti monopoly laws) is the only way to find diamonds in the rough.
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>>25298651
>Therapists can be helpful if you find a good one but most are absolutely unhelpful dogshit.
Which can be reworded as "Therapy is useful when performed correctly." I haven't been satisfied with my therapists either, but there's no denying it helps seriously afflicted people more than fucking jumping jacks would. At any rate, the field in question is more so psychoanalysis, since the issue is whether or not young folks should be looking inward at all.
>therapy works to deflect from stuff like labor alienation
Therapy works to affect the patient. It doesn't deflect from the problem of labor alienation any more than a workout regiment would. If anything it aids the socialist / communist cause -- think of all the future revolutionaries who *won't* rope because they got a Lexapro prescription.
>it's the exact same shit therapists will tell you, except they will pathologize all the negative feelings you have which are normal human responses to capitalism
>they can only be fixed as a class
Loneliness and suicide have existed for far, far longer than capitalism has. There is no doubt that the capitalist model has exacerbated all this--how many people jump off of bridges because of insurance debt?--but these issues fall into the first category of suffering which the author of that article sets out. The second category, suffering of the soul, can not be rid by class revolution. Communism will not stop fathers from raping their daughters, cancer from afflicting children, loves from being lost to infidelity, etc. Even without getting into the biological propensities certain people may have towards depression and mania, there is no doubt that suicide can be induced completely independently of society. The solution, then, to this kind of suffering is not societal, but personal.
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>>25298690
$77K is below the median income for a middle class individual in the US which is currently $83,730. The current range is between ~$49,000 to ~$148,000.
Average management salary in the US is ~$63,000 so IDK where you're getting $44,000 from.
Again, my example shows two individuals, at different points of the spectrum of the American Middle class, choosing either to or not to have children.
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>>25298707
The last movie you enjoyed was a Soviet film produced by a socialized film company and you are using that an argument for why capitalism produces better cinema?
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>>25298714
How are you defining middle class? Obviously not as the median class.
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>>25298715
No, for why cinema as an art mostly produces horseshit. The rest of my post addresses capitalism.
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>>25298711
Therapists are not psychiatrists and if 40% of the youth were "seriously afflicted" then that is a huge failure of society and clearly "more therapy" as a solution is irresponsible. Even if you say therapy helps when 40% are "seriously afflicted", it has to be drastically reformed to allow therapists to be able to tell their patients that, "capitalism is doing this to you," otherwise they are just helping to hide the cause.

>think of all the future revolutionaries who *won't* rope because they got a Lexapro prescription.
Therapists can't and don't give prescriptions. Psychiatrists and general practitioners do

>Communism will not stop fathers from raping their daughters
It will however give the daughters more of a circle of family which makes it easier for them to open up instead of gaslight themselves

>cancer from afflicting children
It will however fund cancer research and medicine far more and make these far more accessible for everyone

>loves from being lost to infidelity, etc.
It will however reduce financial strain tremendously which is arguably the major source of tension in relationships
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>>25298720
I don't think your argument is convincing. I also don't think Taxi Driver is a very good movie though
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>>25298730
Yeah it's mediocre but fun, which still puts it above 99% of other movies which may be fun (if you're retarded) but are abysmal brimstone. That's my point.
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>>25298718
https://theworlddata.com/middle-class-average-income/
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/finance/are-you-in-the-middle-class.html
https://www.census.gov/data/datasets/time-series/demo/cps/cps-asec.html
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>>25298735
99% of every medium is dogshit. I don't watch movies for fun, really, unless it is on a date or a prelude to sex. If I watch a movie on my own I expect it to have the same substance to it as a book. Films like The Grand Illusion or Ran or The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie are great. For fun stuff like James Bond I just have no more attention or interest in any more just like I don't on comic books or pulp
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>>25298736
I think you are confused

You said individual here
>>25298714

But the article says household income. That generally means both parents and often includes their working offspring
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>>25298753
A three person household does not mean three people earn an income. A household can have a single breadwinner and still retain it's status.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf
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>>25298781
Yes but median household income is still a lot higher than median personal income
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>>25298066
Capitalism is the reason black slaves got emancipated.
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>>25298798
Also the reason serfs were, what's your point?
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>>25298742
No, most novels from before 1940 or so were pretty decent. I don't personally read 99% of them but the selection process was sound enough to create shit like Percy Jackson from being created. Not that novels are themselves that great of an art form, they were the beginning of self indulgent slopulation. But what existed was mostly fine, whereas most movies that exist are outright terrible.
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Even though you Communists would probably hate me, and factually hate my people, I still pity for you, since we share quite similar views on media and of the sick evil of capitalism.
But it is futile to try and argue against the infantilization of modern men through the use of mass media, on a website full of hedonistic narcissistic manchildren who avidly consume said media and have been fully conditioned to find this sort of behavior to be perfectly natural (This issue obviously isn't in any way exclusive to 4chan, but Industrial Society's Propaganda is as equally effective on the users of this website as it is to the lay person, regardless of what the individuals in here like to believe). Modern Men would rather be dead than to abandon their Bread and Circuses.
People in Berlin deliberately chose to pass over to the other side of the Wall to experience the Hedonistic "Pleasures" of Capitalism. What makes you think this time will be any different?
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>>25298802
That the emancipation of black slaves was not at the expense of the bourgeoisie
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>>25298814
If capitalism is evil it is only because men are so: The market emerges from the shadows of our choices. Everyone could choose to fix everything tomorrow and capital would be forced to follow our whim. Don't blame reality for our own moral failing.
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>>25298814
>>25298817
also I'm gonna tell my gf to start dressing like the whores in this picture for me when I come home from work, thanks for posting it
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>>25298819
Didn't mean to reply to >>25298817, apologies
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>>25298813
99.99% of novels before 1940 were dogshit that will never be printed or read ever again. We only read and talk about the top .1%

>>25298814
People in Berlin were separated from their families but also the USSR paid for their education which could be used to attain high income in the west. It was a lot easier to get advanced education however humble your station was in the USSR but it was a lot easier to make bank with that money in the west

I don't think the issue will be resolved until America or western Europe has their revolution, but American power stems from the dollar being essential backed by oil through the petrodollar. Other currencies including crypto are essentially backed by the dollar. If the petrodollar ends, then that is when the deciding moment will arrive
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>>25298817
It certainly was for most of those who owned them
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>>25298662
Of all sad words of tongue or pen,
the saddest are these:
/pol/ was right again.
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>>25298870
Considering /pol/ was hyped and dedicated to Trump up until fairly recently, one is forced to reevaluate them as a guiding start or object of faith. I remember when 90%+ of the board was doing the Awoo crap instead of it just being that one general
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"Your Therapist’s Notes Could Become Fodder For AI"

>Technology firms behind artificial intelligence–based note-taking software — marketed to therapists as a time-saving administrative tool — have quietly included provisions in their terms and conditions that allow patients’ therapy records to be sold and manipulated to train other AI applications.

>Providers outsourcing standard progress notes to automated software, which summarize session recordings and transcripts, may be unknowingly offering patients’ sensitive health information as data fodder to the multibillion-dollar AI therapy industry.

>“Most therapists don’t exactly love writing progress notes. What if TheraPro wrote them for you?” asks an AI software company, which charges mental health providers $60 a month for unlimited AI notetaking, including robotic diagnostic assistance and treatment planning.

https://jacobin.com/2025/09/therapy-artificial-intelligence-data-privacy
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>>25298085
>They have a much better literacy rate than America
Oh my God not this shit again.
You jackasses literally didn't read past the first word (ironic lmao) or maliciously choose to omit the fact that that study was talking about "functional literacy", which is an entirely new concept separate from just alphabetization as we typically think of it (i.e being able to read enough to use your smartphone, something literally every person in the USA today is capable of).
That same "functional literacy" stat would have you believe plenty of European countries are also allegedly full of 'illiterates'.
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>>25298682
>not married nor has any desire to start a family. It's a choice
Look man I didn't choose the genetics that made my social skills garbage
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>>25298825
>the USSR paid for their education
The DDR paid for it*
Jesus Christ people, how can you fail to differentiate between East Germany and the Soviet Union that's like confusing the USA and West Germany. Yeah foreign policy wise the DDR was always obedient to the Soviets, but in terms of domestic governance there was always diversions within the Warsaw Pact and how things were managed at a local level (e.g. Polish agriculture often made Soviets butthurt because the Poles didn't do collectivization like the Soviets)
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>plebs like pleb shit
Wthelly?!?
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>>25299307
They also have a much better math aptitude and lower infant mortality
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>>25298825
>American power stems from the dollar being essential backed by oil through the petrodollar. Other currencies including crypto are essentially backed by the dollar. If the petrodollar ends, then that is when the deciding moment will arrive
what is the source for this claim? i see lefty conspiracy types as well as america haters from the thugocracy bloc say this but on what evidence is the petrodollar so important? i have read a lot of books on monetary policy, currencies, banking, in search of this and have yet to see anyone talk about it in any serious way. seems like if all of american power depends on it, someone surely would have published a book or at least some papers on it? i mean actually academics or financial analysts not roman sculpture head substacks.
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>>25299314
What do genes have to do with social skills? Sounds like a fake excuse to maintain the status quo, desu.
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>>25297873
reads like a sensitive rightist op-ed about the now passed 2014 culture war
like that one anon pointed out; jacobin is now downstream from wignat twitter lol
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>>25297788
>>25297792
>>25297821
>>25297825
Why are these texts all slanted? It's obnoxious as fuck.
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>>25299347
Not that anon and I partially agree with you, it’s not just petrodollar ruling everything and eventually it’ll all come down.

I attribute most of Americas power to a few things- namely its financial institutions, the fact that the primary “risk free” asset is US treasuries, and our military reach. These are all intertwined and dependent on as each other. The dollar being the primary reserve currency for most countries does play a role, but that has been the case since the collapse of Breton woods (arguably even before following ww2). TLDR petrodollar is just one reason for US dominance but it’s a multitude of factors
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>>25299380
it writes about how such a high percentage of elite college students have accessibility accommodations but fails to identify the source of it as compliance with title 2 and 3 of the ada. moreover, stanford gives private housing to students with accommodations instead of dorm style residence. this gives students an incentive to find a doctor who will diagnose them with something. the failure to address the actual root of this just shows it is lazy writing. who knows what other lame incorrect assumptions are in this article. if i wanted to read this kind of shit i'd just read jonathan haidt instead of some shitty leftwing sloppy.
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>>25298711
>Therapy works to affect the patient. It doesn't deflect from the problem of labor alienation any more than a workout regiment would.
What? We have more than a century of analysts/therapists writing on how the analysand perceives authority in the analyst. This is how largely how transference is able to operate. Sociologically, professionalization of the therapeutic role has only been on the up since the neuroscientific turn, with psychiatry now as being more of a disease-treater role. Which narrative a therapist or psychiatrist guides a young man towards about his own self is saturated with this authority. Him doing sit-ups leaves him frustrated, but therapy can leave him believing his politics are a symptom of his trauma. I have seen this play out in someone I knew since I was a child. Read critical psychologists like David Smail or R.D. Laing. Not all of it is agreeable but truthfully, the dominant modal therapies in the West right now do much to obliterate our subjectivity and downplay our distress by placing the locus of distress too near our selves
>there is no doubt that suicide can be induced completely independently of society.
There is no such thing as "independently of society". How could an individual ever be entirely severed from the symbolic realm which they have been steeped in their whole lives? What is self-hood other than identifications with and against societal definitions?
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>>25299378
Genetics literally write how your brain is gonna be wired. Your mind isn't an etheral soul or whatever, it's just neurons organized in a certain fashion. If you're unlucky enough to get a shit combo then you're fucked mate, sorry to say. Autism is a real thing not a quirk, plenty of spergs genuinely can't process social interaction like "normal" people.
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>>25298814
there's a point to be made that the notion that for example adults aren't allowed to enjoy cartoons is completely arbitrary, and a thing that was primarily constructed in the 20th century.
Human beings enjoy artistic expression and frivolity. That's the most normal thing in the world. Only weird repressed people who are operating somewhere downstream from Abrahamist religion seem to have a problem with it.

Yes, there's a point at which it becomes too much, and you shouldn't only watch cartoons your entire life. Nuance, you know?
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>culture has an ancient tradition of painting animals on pots
>American blunders his way into the scene with big mac in hand
>"Oh, like Mickey Mouse? Modernity has a serious manchild problem..."
See what I'm saying?
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>>25299411
>Autism is a real thing not a quirk
Yes and no. Autism is just what happens when you remove corporal punishment when children act up. It's real, but it can be fixed with some tolchocks.
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>>25298448
>Blacks have a very defined ethnicity in America
no the fuck they don't lmao. If you don't know about the palm test then shut the fuck up.
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>>25298240
No I'm saying what you do is deep throat dick. Don't be disingenuous.
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>>25298691
I don't remember if I have or not, honestly. Most girls were just not that interested in giving me fellatio.
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>>25299465
Lol, lmao even. My dad took the belt to me many times and I still had autism. Fuckin weirdo.
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>>25299380
How poorly read do you have to be to think this sort of criticism originated on twitter? Marxism criticism in this vein began with the advent of psychotherapy
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>>25299496
dude that whole article is just regurgitated jonathan haidt stuff, but since haidt is chud adjacent none of the jacobin target audience read it so this is the first time they're hearing it
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>>25297856
So basically male teen fantasy to female teen fantasy.
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>>25299500
Lenin heavily criticizes psychoanalysis as offering idealist solutions to material problems, Marxist critical theory has often followed the same vein in spite of many western Marxist getting into the subject. You sound almost as silly as saying Marxists are downstream from rightist twitter because they criticize consumerism
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>>25299516
lenin died in 1924. communism failed. move the fuck on dude.
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>>25299521
I accept your concession
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>>25297979
Because secularism, be it liberal or socialist, is spiritually vacuous. If socialists didn't have "the Revolution (tm)" they wouldn't have anything more than the liberals to hold them together.

>>25298682
The vice-addled are not able to make good choices. They are unfree in that they do not know the good or do not desire it. They have not been formed in virtue. Only on an incoherent voluntarist notion of freedom is one "free" to choose misery and a lack of flourishing.

>>25298029
Indeed, the states with the most generous social welfare safety nets in the world have the lowest native birth rates. It isn't about affordability. It is about parenthood becoming a "life choice" one consumes rather than formative askesis. Basically, liberalism and secularism are anti-life ideologies, and only cultural inertia papered over this. It's just the same way Alasdair MacIntyre points out that Enlightenment ethics are incoherent, but have limped along on Christian capital it denies.

>>25298030
And the rich and middle class depend on poor parents to take care of them when they age because their own children won't (because they didn't have them, or because they abandon invalid parents like good rational atomized utility maximizers). This focus on individual goods over the common good, and goods that diminish when shared over spiritual goods that are enhanced when shared is the dialectic of Satan.

The Humean mantra endemic to our age, that "reason is and ought only be the slave of the passions," is literally diabolical. See pic related, Boethius' Consolation, and D.C. Schidler's Freedom From Reality.
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>>25299537
>change topic to psychoanalysis and lenin out of no where
>accepts other's concessions
mhmm
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>>25299543
Basically, the inversion of potency over act manifests in a civilization that prioritizes slavery over freedom, then calls itself free, and death over life, and calls this the embrace of life (pleasure) to the fullest.
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>>25299551
>>25299543
Nowhere is this more evident than in PUA/Manosphere culture. Men there dedicate their lives to sexual conquest, obviously more out a need for thymotic recognition than mere physical pleasure. They want affirmation, but can never attain it because they denigrate woman, making her unable to give recognition. So they fornicate with women to win the admiration of other men. This is Hegel's Lord-Bondsman dialectic played out in the realm of sex (I hesitate to say romance).

Yet do these men ever question what it means that the women who fornicate with them are at pains to ensure they are sterile for the occasion, or that they would murder any child conceived in the womb? This is a dance of sin and death.
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>>25299408
>Which narrative a therapist or psychiatrist guides a young man towards about his own self is saturated with this authority
This can be harmful, as in cases of misdiagnosis, but the same can be said for doctors diagnosing migraines instead of brain tumors. A good therapist won't take the wheel unless the patient himself, after however many weeks of analysis, has guided them to the destination. Remember that the founding technique of psychoanalysis was free association.
>therapy can leave him believing his politics are a symptom of his trauma
And they might be. How many people became anti-vaxxers because they were traumatized by the healthcare industry? Or by the loneliness which lockdown induced?
>Read critical psychologists like David Smail or R.D. Laing.
>the dominant modal therapies in the West right now do much to obliterate our subjectivity and downplay our distress by placing the locus of distress too near our selves
I have indeed read Laing; The Divided Self is an incredible book (I didn't care for The Politics of Experience). He is correct that a lot of mental illnesses, especially schizophrenia, are created or exacerbated by a society which almost demands that you be schizo. But he also doesn't throw out the possibility that these disorders are caused by traumatizing experiences, or poor family relationships. Nor does Guattari. The solution is to be open to all possibilities, and a good therapist will do that. Ignoring a century of psychoanalytical theory in favor of a blanket "You're not insane; it's society that's insane" diagnosis is as misguided telling them "Your pain isn't special. Just go for a jog or something."
>What is self-hood other than identifications with and against societal definitions?
Did selfhood not exist prior to the clumping-together of civilization? Are we not sons or daughters, tall or short, weak or strong, etc. etc. before we can even comprehend what social class we're in? We aren't ants, we're individuals.
Think about how many people grow up in small towns or villages, knowing only a handful of people throughout their lives, never moving. To someone in rural Arkansas the people of New York City may as well be aliens, although they're all apart of the same "society." For a lot of these people, it isn't societal shifts that are having a significant effect on their ego (an economic recession is more an inconvenience than anything to an already poor cashier); it's personal and interpersonal developments that define their life. Their mother's dementia, the birth of their child, their own creeping fear of death. You could draw up the most utopian society, where economic inequality no longer exists and material wants are eliminated, and yet you cannot eliminate the wants of the soul without addressing the soul personally.
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>>25299613
>knowing only a handful of people throughout their lives, never moving
That's pretty much me. Being on benefits is why I don't move.
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>>25299558
A lot of that would just be solved if women didn't have autonomy but I digress, no one is prepared to live in a society like that, where the bondsman becomes the bondswoman to every male Lord's desire. On the contrary incels would cease to exist, then. I wrote many pages about this.
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>>25299465
people used to hit me all of the time and it made me more of a weirdo if anything.
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>>25299549
Jacobin is a socialist publication and has a positive stance toward Marx and Lenin. Therapy that we have today was pioneered by psychoanalysis
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>>25298067
When people won't Google basic things, I look down on them. It's not just ignorance, it's laziness.
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>>25298641
>"Exercise alleviates anxiety and depression better than medication or therapy." The ONLY way you could believe this is..
It's not about belief. It's fact, supported by scientific evidence. Lifting heavy weights is just better than any other method, deal with it.
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>>25299780
>takes anon's 300 lbs mom and bench presses her
I feel better already.
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>>25299758
Why do psychoanalysts ever analyze their own leftist biases?
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>>25299849
>what's the psychosexual explanation for not wanting to blow up Iranian schools
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>>25298497
>BTW enjoying food and loving your family isn't unique
It's fucking weird how minorities with chips on their shoulders about the people who founded the countries they're fleeing into think it is, eh? If white people are so vile and the countries founded by them so deep rootedly evil then why the fuck are they pouring into where ever white people live from the overflowing shit holes of their supposedly noble ancestors?
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>>25299758
Jacobin was founded by a jeet who hides anything privileged in his bio to cry about how one of his random ancestors was oppressed 300 years ago. Go ahead and look it up--you can even discern the above from his PR controlled Wikipedia page, lol.
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>>25299926
If white countries are so great why did whites flee to America and the rest of the planet?

If America is so great why does it have to massacre women and children in any country that rejects its financial system and bank rape?
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>>25299928
Who the fuck cares? He's not the one writing the articles
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>>25299939
>If white countries are so great why did whites flee to America and the rest of the planet?
You're referring to "the age of discovery" and it was based.
>If America is so great
Why are you seething about it? Exactly.
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>>25299941
Lol, your astroturfed commie rag was created by a jeet who spergs about a random ancestor from 300 years ago because he thinks it gives him credibility.
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>>25300363
I'm referring to colonialism
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Lol
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>>25300375
You mean when Europe birthed modernity and did things like ending slavery as a global norm and raised billions out of poverty? See >>25300376, lol.
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>>25300381
I mean like when Europe invented open borders and cultural enrichment
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>>25300385
You thirdies didn't have a concept of borders and as far as Europe bringing modernity to you it was cultural enrichment.
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>>25300389
That'a very wrong. It is just Europe had no concept of borders outside Europe. Read Nomos of the Earth.
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>>25300426
I'm not really interested in reading thousands of years of legal codes from around the world. Can you just link some of the translated passages to support your point?
I'll concede if you do.
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>>25300426
>That'a very wrong
No, sweaty. It's right. The West's only mistake has been thinking you thirdies had something to offer the world other than the resentment caused by your profound sense of inferiority. Hell, even the language you use to formulate such was gifted to you by Europe, lol.
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>>25300428
Don't pretend to be me, fag. He lost the debate like 4 posts ago.
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>>25300433
Clearly.
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>>25300430
English has a great vocabulary but otherwise it is not a great language
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>>25300428
The Nomos of the Earth is one volume by Carl Schmitt about the jurisprudence of international law (nomos of the earth) during colonialism compared with postwar jurisprudence of international law
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>>25300444
Language as in terminology and the concepts derived from such, thirdie. You need to work on your reading comprehension.
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>>25300464
Most western legal concepts were originally articulated in Latin
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>>25300467
And? Lol.
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>>25300471
You should learn Latin. It is a much better language than English imo
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>>25297788
Reading the first page, the author was able to bemoan both JK Rowling and Amazon with some massive retard reaches. Not saying she’s wrong on her main point but this signaling is fucking stupid lmao
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>>25300486
>t. Twi-Mom
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>>25299383
To punish the disabled and retarded.
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>>25300484
Being a native English speaker is winning the lottery as far as languages are concerned.
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>>25299383
Style over substance. The left was cannibalized by liberals so it's trying extremely hard to seem hip.
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>>25299383
It was written by an Asian
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>>25300503
Most native English speakers have a mediocre grasp of English
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>>25300521
And you know this from experience how? I doubt you leave your armpit fishing village in Siberia except to go grocery shopping.
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>>25300530
See what I mean?
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>>25300484
If its so much better then why don't you make every one of your posts in Latin, smartypants?
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>>25300535
I just made that assertion just to aggravate you on purpose because I find joy in the suffering of others. I don't have a much of a social life and this is how I cope.
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>>25300499
Ah I see so Pol Pot was right to kill other leftists like Malcolm Caldwell.
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>>25300521
So? For everyone over 100 IQ points (e.g. me) there's someone below 100 IQ points (e.g. you). You're just presenting random slides because you lost a debate.
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>>25300530
Kek.
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>>25299508
Completely, fundamentally different.

Books like Percy Jackson, Narnia, Animorphs, Harry Potter, etc are universally accessible, with a young teen protags that grows with the reader. They're entry level books for kids starting around 12. They're books you grow up with, and remember fondly.

Books like the shit Sarah J Maas and Cassandra Clare put out are self-insert fanfiction that center around relationship drama. They're only accessible to older teenage girls and women. Often they feature scenes that are not appropriate for younger readers. I personally wouldn't call it YA at all. As soon as a reader advances in their critical reading skills, they look back on these books and they cringe at the idea that they ever read them.

The publishing industry has abandoned young readers for a cheap buck, and I hate it.
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>>25297900
dualism is a heretical view, every person is innately a monist. materialists have just inverted folk beliefs which are innate to the human experience of the world.

>eg. magical realism is how humans actually navigate the world

>>25300968
young readers are young gamers now, you can't produce for a market that doesn't exist. unless you spend ages 3-9 deeply developing your imagination through play and storytelling with other children, you will never be able to outimagine television, tiktok, videogames. my grandparents read to me before i was conscious, it builds a structure you can expand with self-play. your average toddler is 300 hours deep into bluey and peppa pig before they are verbal. pick a random 6 year old child anywhere in the world today, they speak australian or british accented english due to early immersion and expose to internet media aimed at them directly. reading a book is a cure for boredom on a rainy day, autists cant sit still to read and stim harder with repetitive memetic content than with children's lit. you're never going back, it's like expecting people to develop the lower body strength they had when agricultural work was their primary daily activity.
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>>25297799
Imagine you come home early one day and catch your daughter in the act of reading Lukacs. What do you do? What do you say?
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Latest trannypol brigading campaign on /lit/ has devolved into just spamming jacobin articles to try convince the chuds that marxists are actually le based and trad LOL.
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>>25301265
I mean, I read books and played games as a kid. It's not like games weren't a thriving industry in the 90's. Games have only gotten more vacuous and shitty, in fact.
give people a genuinely brilliant storytelling experience, and they will show up.
the modern world can't even give us fucking Star Wars movies. A fairy tale with ray-guns to stimulate the imaginations of ten year old boys is too heavy of a task for the intellectual titans tasked with producing our entertainment. That's the problem.
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>>25301339
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>>25301265
Abandoning the option is not going to solve any issues. I started reading because I saw my dad reading every day when I was very young. All you have to do to get kids into reading is to show them that it's entertaining. This gets harder and harder the less and less books get promoted that appeal to them. You can't punish kids for their shitty parents. Just shrugging your shoulders and saying "urm they just play vidya nowadays" is a cop-out and you know it.
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>>25301444
communists love to promote the social engineering angle. oh we need to tell the dumb masses what to do because we are so much smarter and know what's best for them
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>>25301451
>we need to promote more books for kids
>ur a communist lol
fuck off
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>>25301453
Kek
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>>25301453
>we need to promote more books for kids by a nanny state dictating market demands

yes that's communist
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>>25301574
fine. let kids rot.
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>>25301590
You sound upset
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>>25301375
Wonderful projection. I don't even support Drumpf but only a tranny would post an image like that.
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>>25301600
>>25301375
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>>25301598
I am.
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>>25301375
You're never going to live down the fact you tried to make everyone believe in "her penis" under penalty of law, anon. Just like HRT and cutting off your dick--there's no coming back from that.
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>>25301973
You're never going to psyop anyone into forgetting that lgbt has always been exclusively pushed by capitalist states and never by communist states
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>>25299463
God you sound obsessed. Did some American fuck your oneitis or something?
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>>25297856
What kind of kids read monster porn lit?
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>>25301980
Sounds more like people in capitalist states have autonomy they lack in communist states and they're choosing big gay. More of a human nature problem (which Marxists straight up deny exists) than an ideology problem.
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>>25301991
Females.
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>>25302000
Turning it into an ideology with a flag is not the same as human nature
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>>25298000
Why did the capitalists who sold baby cribs just stand by and let it happen?
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>>25302021
Let the shift in marketing happen? It wouldn't even affect baby cribs since capitalism is not reducing babies, if people refuse have babies and so increase the reserve industrial army, capitalism will just import people who will have babies
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>>25301980
His post was better. Your's just sounds like you're seething.
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>>25302203
You type with a lisp
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>>25302207
Naw. You think with one, lol.
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Reminder: commies pioneered sending trannies to compete in women's sports at the Olympics.
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>>25302211
This is how women who don't drink flouride naturally look
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>>25302223
>t. "her penis" enjoyer
Lol
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>>25302228
>t. herr penis enjoyer
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>>25302230
Again, the post you replied to is better.
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>>25302231
Even sassier this time, I see
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>>25302251
Get better bants and be less of a fag, fag.
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>>25302286
I only banter with women and you will never be one
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>>25302294
>I only banter with women
Correct because you're a fag.
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>>25302336
Because I'm not a neckbeard who banters with trannies online and male co-workers as a release for homoerotic tension and indirect romantic affection
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>>25302345
>tl;dr
You're gay.
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The articles were interesting and made me want to read more from Jacobin. But the I found further down the thread that it was founded by an indian. If you want chuds like me to join your communist revolution never associate yourself with indians
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>>25302929
Nazis literally used an Indian symbol as their flag lmao
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Ring Magazine is better than Jacobin and it's archive and new issues are all free online.
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>>25301339
you should check out Jacobin's instagram account sometime. Half the comments are people just bitching that Jacobin is "right wing."
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>>25298662
>>25298870
I read the whole thing and it didn't mention right wing xitter once? Redpill me on this.
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>>25303371
Why the fuck would I do that and why the fuck would I care about the wokeoid vs tankie larper intertroon dispute?



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