Fisher took Marxism to its natural conclusion
>>25300882Nick Land reminds me of when I was a teenager. That's not a criticism, just saying he has an adolescent spirit.
>>25300887what you're calling an "adolescent spirit" is what most men would be like would be like without the burden of wagecuckery
Why is this guy constantly crashing out on Twitter now? Is it drugs?
>>25300882Of course he did. Eric Voeglin had a bit of a point when he called it a gnostic religious cult. Mark Fisher is no different from Marshall Applewhite or any random pied piper. Communism is a Suicidal death cult.
what even is Nick Lands philosophy
>>25301633Telling people it makes them brown to oppose Israel.
>>25301618Jim Jones (who was a literal Maoist) would have been a more precise comparison.
>>25301641T. Biggest fan of Spic Feuntes
>>25300882He also posted this on Fisher
>>25301719Oh, thats right, come to think of it.
>>25301722Calling someone brown/groyper for not supporting Israel, etc.
>>25301633he thinks being irrelevant is good because he stays in the game that way
>>25301802A lot of people get crushed once they hit outside their internet hugbox. It’s like being the baddest drunk in a bar in Petrozavodsk.
>>25300887>That's not a criticism, just saying he has an adolescent spirit.on the contrary, that's praise, and it's praise he doesn't deserveyoung land would hate old land, and it's an indictment of young land that it was possible for him to become old land
>>25300882I've been saying this for years lmfao>>25301633"Nitchy but the overman is a graphics card" + something about Calvinism which I suspect is just an insincere affectation to get a kind of Christian to be comfortable with him.
>>25301633The same as Moldbug, BAP, Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, the Weinstein bros, Bari Weiss, Steve Sailer, Richard Hanania, the entire Dork Enlightenment. Its about laundering support of Israel/Zionism through "edgy" or alt philosophies.
>>25301633Sticking your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye as the omnicial global AI god is brought to life by the zionist crime syndicate
>>25301783Nick Feuntes and his fans are literally brown people though. That is just fact. Their entire MO is to make you dislike Trump by calling him a Jew lover same way the democrats say he’s a Russian plant. It’s the exact same tactic - DRUMPF is owned by Putin (if you’re Democrat) or Bibi (if you’re a Groyper). It’s the same tired tactics time and time again you fall for.
>>2530187195 iq>>25301874Basically this
>>25301877Trvthnvke
>>25301877But Trump is a jew lover? I'm notnsure how you would even begin to argue that he's not. I don't know if it's Mossad blackmail or what but Trump is just a generic neoconservative now.
>>25301877> dislike Trump by calling him a Jew lover same way the democrats say he’s a Russian plant. It’s the exact same tactic Yes it’s entirely as baseless fellow MIGA wait which war is the US currently directly involved in again? Iran? Curious. While Zion Don doesn’t claim to be Putin’s best friend he repeatedly talks about how much Bibi loves him. In fact he bragged about his popularity in Israel and that he might go run for office there. Did he say that about Russia? How many billions does the US pay Russia? Now how much money does Israel get?If only we could see some sort of preference here! But alas basic facts is beyond the average migger who is forced to deny what Zion Don says himself. >but Iran isn’t about Israel I got my talking pointsYeah despite Rubio spilling the beans then trying to walk it back it would be a lie you could repeat if not Zion Don kept saying it outright himself. Here from a few hours ago is the latest. He’s crashing the world economy and torching his own party’s chances in the midterms and likely next presidency because… why? Israel. Fucking dumb facebook boomers need the day of the pillow.
>>25301633He's a techbro, he owns crypto stocks
>>25301877However trying to tar any opposition to Israel as groyper or brown like Land does is just boomer bad taste
>>25300882Thinking single marginal theorist committing suicide is somehow being a 'natural conclusion' of a whole movement surely is not a good move to make intellectually if the Main Guy of your movement offed himself in a bunker.
>>25301633He's a relic of the 90s, wheeled out because he gives you a cool edgy cyberpunk aesthetic before you and your fellow Stanford grads go back to donating 10% of your polycule's income to shrimp welfare.
>>25301930
do people still defend Trump and his fans? how do retards not realize Trump and MIGA are fucking dead? LMAO
>>25301877>Their entire MO is to make you dislike Trump by calling him a Jew loverSometimes I look at right wing discourse and I experience such a massive culture shock. So you don't dislike Trump because he:>is clearly dumb & unhinged & an unpresidential embarrassment>launched a crypto scam>regularly insider trades>has multiple scam companies tied to his family>staged a failed coup d'etat>gutted social services to pay for bloated military & corporate tax cuts>starts unnecessary, unplanned, ad hoc wars>sucks up to Putin and Netanyahu>is ripping up alliances with our Western friendsBut you hate him because he 'loves Jews'...
>>25302329Rich people are rich because they're very rarely wrong, idiot. If you were as smart as Trump, you'd be rich, but you're not, so why should anyone listen to you? No, I don't necessarily agree with everything Trump is doing, but I have enough humility to know that he's a lot smarter than I am.
>>25301972Its funny how it gets under your skin, though.
>>25301869>something about Calvinism which I suspect is just an insincere affectation to get a kind of Christian to be comfortable with himmenachem moldberg wrote that calvinism was the source of progressivism, so, the best thing about the neoreactionaries was their total rejection of calvinism
>>25302027Equating all right wing though to heckin nazis is exactly the kind of bad faith attitude I'd expect from commies.
>>25300882>the doctor is in>the job doesn't attract any forward thinking typesWhat prompted this?
>>25303665Calvinism is directly taught in the Bible:As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,[b] but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?
>>25300882It's hanged. Opinions discarded.
>>25300882>bro just accept your place in the cyberpunk feudal shithole>Just let Elon rule as Techno king of America.I fucking hate this guy.
>>25301633He thinks that Humanity will have to transition form organic to cybernetic life and that we will be replaced by machines. Because it is inevitable in his view he thinks we should embrace our demise.
>>25301633Elon worship
>>25303665I'm not sure they have. Neo-Calvinism is by far the largest "real" Christian reactionary group (not just tradlarping) in the US. They've formed entire communities, have a detailed homeschooling curriculum, and are able to get their politics into real political platforms. They've almost taken over the Southern Baptist Church. At least in the US they're way more influential than tradcaths and orthobros.
>>25303988Did you get this idea from a YouTube video
>>25303895the fact Elon Musk tries to act learned in philosophy is hilarious. What an unlikable retard, he should've been bullied at school.
"I wiped the blade against my jeans and walked into the bar. It was mid-afternoon, very hot and still. The bar was deserted. I ordered a whiskey. The barman looked at the blood and asked:‘God?’‘Yeah.’‘S’pose it’s time someone finished that hypocritical little punk, always bragging about his old man’s power…’He smiled crookedly, insinuatingly, a slight nausea shuddered through me. I replied weakly:‘It was kind of sick, he didn’t fight back or anything, just kept trying to touch me and shit, like one of those dogs that try to fuck your leg. Something in me snapped, the whingeing had ground me down too low. I really hated that sanctimonious little creep.’‘So you snuffed him?’‘Yeah, I’ve killed him, knifed the life out of him, once I started I got frenzied, it was an ecstasy, I never knew I could hate so much.’I felt very calm, slightly light-headed. The whisky tasted good, vaporizing in my throat. We were silent for a few moments. The barman looked at me levelly, the edge of his eyes twitching slightly with anxiety:There’ll be trouble though, don’tcha think?’‘I don’t give a shit, the threats are all used up, I just don’t give a shit.’‘You know what they say about his old man? Ruthless bastard they say. Cruel…’‘I just hope I’ve hurt him, if he even exists.’‘Woulden wanna cross him merself,’ he muttered.I wanted to say ‘yeah, well that’s where we differ’, but the energy for it wasn’t there. The fan rotated languidly, casting spidery shadows across the room. We sat in silence a little longer. The barman broke first:‘So God’s dead?’‘If that’s who he was. That fucking kid lied all the time. I just hope it’s true this time.’The barman worked at one of his teeth with his tongue, uneasily:‘It’s kindova big crime though, isn’t it? You know how it is, when one of the cops goes down and everything’s dropped ’til they find the guy who did it. I mean, you’re not just breaking a law, your breaking LAW.’I scraped my finger along my jeans, and suspended it over the bar, so that a thick clot of blood fell down into my whisky, and dissolved. I smiled:‘Maybe it’s a big crime,’ I mused vaguely ‘but maybe it’s nothing at all…’ ‘…and we have killed him’ writes Nietzsche, but—destituted of community—I crave a little time with him on my own.In perfect communion I lick the dagger foamed with God’s blood."- Nick Land
>>25303991Yes and it's basedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QS90YAsbMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNFwCdbw-Echttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9ajYd4g6skhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhxBC3-6u9oThis is one of the main proponents of neocalvinism in the US. Lets see the pope say shit like this.
>>25304057>I scraped my finger along my jeans, and suspended it over the bar, so that a thick clot of blood fell down into my whisky, and dissolved. I smiled:HOLY FUCKING REDDIT
>>25304087This is not a real thing. The guy (who looks Jewish, mind you) is deliberately saying inflammatory stuff as a grift, to gather of fanbase of people who don't really believe in anything anyway -- they haven't read the Bible, they can't name the Gospels, the only thing they know is that that they don't like change. And since most of his fans are old enough to have been around when evolution wasn't taught and drinking fountains were segregated, that is what they want society to revert to.These people are as Christian as the Nazis were, e.g. only as a pretext.
>>25304140>everyone who disagrees with me is...........a le grifter.
>>25304140That picrel is just objectively true. Not a good example of what you're talking about (which also isn't correct, I've seen some Webbon fans and they're all zoomers).
ahhh sweetan incel XShitter shitpost fest thread!
>>25301633He thinks capitalistic tech dystopia is inevitable, so we should all embrace the doom and bow our heads to our techbro overlords or risk being thrown at the meat grinder of late stage capitalism.Oh, and that Gematria is also real, for some reason.
>>25303064>staged a failed coup d'etat>gutted social services
>>25301877>You are the one falling for the psyop>Not me, despite still following a narcissistic pedophile retard who sold his country's stability for personal gain and foreign interestsYeah, fuck off boomer
>>25304940get the FUCK off my board frognigger
>>25303064>is clearly dumb & unhinged & an unpresidential embarrassmentThis both doesn't matter and is true of every president since Nixon. The government is not a beauty pageant.
>>25303988haha bullshit. evidently you can only recognize groups that have ideologies, and the brothers who only know Christ and Him crucified are invisible to you
>>25304964Really? Which other President launched a crypto scam? Which other President starts wars and places bets on the derivative markets as a result of those wars? Which other President tried to push through such ridiculous policies as the Liberation Day tariffs? You are literally blind if you think the Trump admin is not something new and entirely unseen in the history of US politics. Trump is a symptom of our moral and spiritual decay.
>>25301877>DRUMPF is owned by Putin (if you’re Democrat) or Bibi (if you’re a Groyper).Or both, if you actually have more than a single braincell. He's a prostitute who pimps out himself, and his country, to anyone who either bribes him with money or has compromising material on him. Which, yeah, mostly Israhell und Russia, but also Saudi Arabia, China and Silicon Valley.
>>25304934what are you doing to stop it, oh wait, preaching communism using the very tools of capitalism? publishing books and blogs that no one reads, arguing with literal who nobodies about changing the world? and you think he's wrong?
>>25304964>le BOTH sidesThe midwit fence sitter prayer.
>>25305123You are retarded, I'm firmly right wing at this point. My point is totally unrelated to sides: it's simply retarded to judge a president by muh dignity.
>>25300882>xI don't know why I keep expecting better from this board.
>>25305017Trumpism is honestly the logical endpoint of democracy. It's what Plato warned about: a 'charismatic' demagogue who doesn't know how to govern but gets into power because of his appeal with the peasant masses. In the past this sort of leader was impossible because Americans still had a sense of honour and decency. The Republican Party appealed to 'Christian values' and the 'moral majority', and people still generally had faith in institutions. Media was gatekept and the public discourse was formed by a select group of fairly intelligent journalists, pundits, intellectuals who had the bare minimum standards for accuracy & ethics, and the bare minimum education.With the rise of social media the public discourse became fully democratised. Everything became a race to the bottom. Podcastbros came out in support of Trump because he was 'funny' and 'straighttalking' - as if those are even remotely relevant criteria for choosing the leader of the most powerful country in the world.They don't care about his corruption, his bad policies, his stupidity, his lack of dignity, his machiavellianism, because they are worthless peasants who have those exact same qualities.
>>25305158t. Thinks the United States was created in 1965
>>25304974Claiming to not have a denomination is still a denomination.
>>25305128There's a 0% chance you would say this is Obama engaged in half the behaviors that Trump did. Hell, look at the reaction to Clinton and the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Many of the same people who wanted to impeach Clinton now support Trump who is 10x the degenerate.
>>25305241You can't read, and Obama did far worse things (gave away control of root DNS, the Iran deal, flooding the country with third worlders, *making it legal for the government to use propaganda on American citizens*, drone striking citizens, all the deaths due to the Arab spring, naming a ship after a pedophile, inflaming the Trayvon Martin thing, etc.) just with media glazing hence less offense given to gullible rich people.
>>25305253>the Iran dealOuted yourself as Jewish, lol
>>25305253>Iran deal Yeah because Trump starting another forever war and causing a global economic and energy crisis is so much better, right?
>>25305158And why do you think they became so extremist if not because of the democrats becoming extremist too? Let's ignore all the tranny pillling in school and all the dei policies pushed down our throats and blame it all on the republicans who were not in power for 12 of the last 18 yrs since obama left.
>>25305279Yes, and the Iran war specifically is a consequence of what Obama did. Sorry for not wanting nuclear armed Hezbollah running around. The energy crisis is crippling China and India (our main adversaries) so seems at least partially good. Time will tell on whether this whole thing is a disaster. Why are we even talking about this on /lit/?>>25305289He's just going to pretend like he doesn't know what you're talking about, then if you show him examples he'll say it doesn't matter.
>>25305289What is that even supposed to mean? The left is obviously bad, tranny shit is obviously degenerate, DEI obviously ignores racial realities, how does that justify Trump?In fact Trumpism can't even in principle be a response to this because it is purely Machiavellian and indifferent towards truth, goodness, and beauty. Trump just like a tranny is a nominalist who believes only in the will to power, the absolute power of the human will to overcome all categories and transcend all boundaries. He finds it useful to target trannies but his philosophy is no different to theirs. >>25305296>Iran war specifically is a consequence of what Obama did.Lmao, the iran war is specifically a consequence of Trump undoing what Obama did.> Sorry for not wanting nuclear armed Hezbollah running around. Iran deal was an agreement to LIMIT the Iranian NUCLEAR PROGRAM in return for sanctions relief and other provisions.
>>25305303>Iran deal was an agreement to LIMIT the Iranian NUCLEAR PROGRAMAnd it failed miserably
>>25305304>literally spouting fox news propagandaEither Jewish or braindeadThe U.S. certified in April 2017 and in July 2017 that Iran was complying with the deal.[322][323]On 13 October 2017, President Trump announced that he would not make the certification required under the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act, accusing Iran of violating the spirit of the deal and calling on Congress and international partners to "address the deal's many serious flaws", though he stopped short of terminating the agreement.[324][325]Trump left Congress to decide whether to reimpose sanctions. His aides sought to enact rules indicating how the U.S. could reimpose sanctions. Trump listed three items that could provoke the U.S. to reject the deal: intercontinental ballistic missile development, Iranian refusal to extend the constraint period, and evidence that Iran had reduced the time needed to manufacture a bomb to fewer than 12 months.[326]Rouhani,[327] Theresa May, Emmanuel Macron, Angela Merkel, and European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said the agreement was working well and that no one country could break it, reconfirming support for the deal. Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov confirmed that Iran was in compliance.[327]In 2018, IAEA inspectors spent an aggregate of 3,000 calendar [person-]days in Iran, installing seals and collecting surveillance camera photos, measurement data, and documents for further analysis. In March 2018, IAEA Director Yukiya Amano said that the organization had verified that Iran was implementing its nuclear-related commitments.[328] On April 30, the U.S. and Israel said that Iran had not disclosed a past covert nuclear weapons program to the IAEA, as required.[329][330]
>>25305303Trump was chosen precisely because he is an extremist, and only a right extremist can beat a left one. Whether he can make an iran deal or whether he is a role model is irrelevant. The republicans used him as a weapon to get back in power because the democrats had lost the plot. That you pretend to not understand this says everything about why you are still arguing in bad faith.
>>25303741Nothing in Romans 9 necessitates a Calvinist hermeneutic. The fact that it is God's purpose which directs the course of human history, and not human history which directs God's purpose, does not necessitate a belief in Calvinism. The fact that God directs man's steps, giving growth to the good and making an example of the evil in a manner of His choosing, does not necessitate a belief in Calvinism. Both God's foresight and predestination together determine the ultimate fate of a man. Pharaoh is "prepared for destruction" from before time both due to God's will and the actions God predicted that Pharaoh would freely take. To be sure there is an interplay here - as in Jeremiah, God's shaping is both determinative and responsive. And so, in Pharaoh's own time, we see that he is both hardened and is hardening of himself.God does no force man to sin, neither does He abandon any man to an impossible standard unless that man has first wilfully, freely, and repeatedly, denied God's purpose for him. Man's efforts in and of themselves accomplish little, but the fact that God and Christ will visit the one who keeps Jesus' commandments necessitates personal effort and agency on our part. We must do both. We must expect all things by grace, and freely move to ensure that we are rendering ourselves in obedience through good works.
>>25305309Trump isn't even an extremist, he has no ideology, convictions or beliefs. He's in it for narcissistic reasons and ronenrich himself and his family, hence all the blatant corruption and graft. If MAGA actually believed in anything it might be interesting but ultimately it's just a cult of personality.
>>25305309>Trump was chosen precisely because he is an extremistNo, he was chosen because in democracy the low IQ plebs vote for demagogues. If you don't understand this you might be a deplorable yourself.>>25305310>Nothing in Romans 9 necessitates a Calvinist hermeneuticJust be honest with yourself.It says:>So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.So God "has mercy" on whomever he wills, and "hardens" whomever he wills. "Hardens" implies turning them to sin, hardening their heart to the Truth and Goodness. Then Paul ANTICIPATES AN OBJECTION:>You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?”This is the classic objection people make to Calvinists. How can God find fault when everything is done through his will? How can he blame us when he caused us to sin?Paul doesn't respond by saying, 'No, no, you got it wrong, guys! You still have free will!" He says:>Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?And then he further says that the wicked were PREPARED BEFOREHAND FOR DESTRUCTION and the elect were PREPARED BEFOREHAND FOR GLORY:>What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?How is that not Calvinism? I can't deal with your dishonesty.
>>25305322>in democracy the low IQ plebs vote for demagoguesYes precisely because he is an extremist, one does not come before the other.
>>25305309>>25305326This is wrong. When Trump first ran for the Republican nomination, the party didn't want him. He wasn't ran as some grand strategy to combat the Democrats. He won popular appeal with Republican voters in spite of the party apparatus itself. This has been an issue in both of his terms. And your use of the term ''extremist' is vague to the point of meaninglessness and it's an emotional loaded term that just confuses whatever you're trying to say. Donald Trump is popular with the public but there's no sign that he knows what he's doing except grabbing as much cash as he can for him and his cronies while speaking out of his ass to keep the public on his side.
>>25305341The party never wanted him but still found a way to accept him as part of getting back in power. If they hate him so much, they can impeach him, so your argument is irrelevant.
>>25305349There's a difference between reluctantly accepting something foisted upon you and using something as a strategy against an opponent, you spastic.
>>25305322>Just be honest with yourself.I am being honest. Assuming dishonesty on the part of your opponent is juvenile and self-serving. >"Hardens" implies turning them to sin, hardening their heart to the Truth and Goodness.You're choosing not to hear me. You haven't engaged with a word I have written. The fact that God occasionally gives people up to their sins by fortifying them in their base desires does not necessitate a belief Calvinism. >Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?As already stated, this is a reference to Jeremiah in which the created complains to the creator about the manner in which they have been formed. The point is not that some are created to do bad things - far from it, since we know from James that God in no way tempts man towards evil. Rather, the point is that God's ways are mysterious and that we thus have no right to turn our nose up at the hardships and supposed deficiencies He provides us with. Paul doesn't simply leave it at "who are you, oh man?" He counters the idea that God is unjust by pointing out that God is long suffering towards those who do Him wrong. One cannot be patient with someone whom they are forcing to do wrong. So what is going on?The way to reconcile this, as already stated, is to be found in Paul's reference to Jeramiah. Any good potter will tell you that the clay has a mind of its own - and that the pot you end up with, though to your design ultimately, is not necessarily the pot you had in mind to begin with. And this is what we read in Jeremiah:>Then the word of the Lord came to me. He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the Lord. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel. >If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. >And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it.God's action is both determinative AND responsive in a manner that we will likely not fully comprehend until the eschaton. But to take this mystery, this clear interplay, and to dismiss it in favour of Jean Calvin's rigidity, would be hasty.>I can't deal with your dishonesty.Your anger and conceit are incidental to the task at hand.
>>25305354Foisted upon whom? They allowed him to run as a candidate. Your argument remains irrelevant, you christian morality larper.
>>25301641Was that his stance before Charlie Kirk was murdered? Fuentes became a lot more judeofriendly afterwards.
>>25305349>The party never wanted himThat turned out to be erroneous. It was a simple marketing trick to make sure the alienated White men of America would feel sympathy with him. Just like the fake assassination was created for polls. Trump was to be the people's voice and the trumpet that would blow the weak corrupt cowards from their ivory towers. Alas, he was just another one.
OP here this was meant to be a fun light hearted thread not a struggle session about Trump or ZOG or whatever other political larp the goyim are doing
>>25305381Boyim gonna boyim. With the advent of cloning, we can inbreed within the inbreeding. With gene editing we can learn to breathe in our own asses.
>>25304087>I'm not sure they have. Neo-Calvinism is by far the largest "real" Christian reactionary group (not just tradlarping) in the US.>My evidence? Here's a guy who can't average more than 400 likes on his latest couple of videos
>>25305368>it explicitly states the wicked were prepared beforehand for destruction and the elect for glory>hmm let, me explain to you how it means actually something else!>you see, in a lexically similar passage in the old testament, the same word 'potter' was used, and in that context it was talking about something else, so checkmate..lol
>>25305381You mentioned marx. This was bound to happen. ShitflingingMany, many such cases!
>>25305394>hmm let, me explain to you how it means actually something else!I never said it meant something else. I simply pointed out that the Bible demonstrates that God's preparations are at times predicate both upon His determination and His prediction of how His creatures shall freely behave. >you see, in a lexically similar passage in the old testamentIt's referring to the same act, the same image, of the potter shaping the clay. I refuse to believe you're actually this dense. At any rate, you've shown a consistent unwillingness to engage in what I have written in good faith. Talking to you is like talking to a dumb animal. I dust off my feet.
>>25305373Are you illiterate? Foisted upon the party. The RNC did not want Donald Trump the same way the DNC did not want Bernie Sanders at the same time. Trump and Sanders were both figures with huge popular appeal that captivated its members. In the case of the DNC, they did stop Bernie Sanders from running and arguably it cost them the election. That's the choice it presented the Republican Party with. The point I'm making, the point you're too stupid to grasp, is that Trump wasn't a strategy developed by the Republican Party, and in fact, they were opposed to him and they've been dragged along reluctantly by the groundswell support with many higher up members of the Republican Party coming into conflict with Trump and receiving backlash from his fanbase, leading either to them bending the knee or being ousted. Your grasp of the facts is pathetic and you're just a stupid person.
>>25305399they're not even talking about Maxr biggest of bros they're pretending they're on the West Wing
>>25305416Again, if the republicans didn't want him, they wouldn't have allowed him to run, and if they still don't want him now, they could enter into an agreement with the democrats and impeach him. Typing paragraphs about who hated whom and captivated what does not change that. They have options and agency to act.
>>25305425I don't want to my possessions stolen from me, but if someone is pointing a knife at me, I hold them over. According to your retarded thinking, that means I want to hand my possessions over. You're an actual retard. They didn't want him, but accepting him was the better alternative to rejecting him. Trump suggested if they did that then he may have run as an independent. This was all in response to the suggestion that the Republican Party embraced ''extremist'' Trump as a response to the Democrats, something that's not held up by the facts. He was foisted upon them by popular support, not a strategy.
>>25305431That's a retarded analogy, the republican party is not an individual who can be held at ransom by a single person, try again.
>>25305434>organizations and institutions can't be held to ransomWhy exactly? I'm pretty sure this happens regularly, actually.
>>25305404>freely behave.Nonsense. Nobody 'freely behaves'. Our behaviour is entirely conditioned by our genetics, upbringing, and experiences. The concept of 'freely behaving' literally makes no sense. I'd like you to define it for me.
>>25305437No it doesn't, not at that scale anyway. The republican party eventually realized they could use trump, just like the ((())) realized they could use him to attack Iran. You must be watching too many movies if you think that's how the world works, you must also assume that trump is a genius who can outmaneuvre an entire party to his whims. What's more realistic is they let him do whatever he wants--crypto scams--up to the limit that he allows them to do what they want--military encroachment.
>>25305446Are you even the same person who suggested Donald Trump was an extremist embraced by the Republican Party to combat the extremism of the Democrat Party? There's no substantial disagreement here now because you agree that Donald Trump is in it for the cash grab against the wishes of the Republican Party but they've compromised to allow him whatever he wants because that's their ticket to popular support.Btw, retard>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign
>>25305449Those two are not in disagreement. He can be an extremist and still run crypto scams and the party can get popular while getting all the perks of running the govt. That link is irrelevant since politicians lie all the time and they still allowed him to run and he is still in power. You are arguing against historical facts in the most retarded way imaginable, like some ideological history major who wants to retell a story that is already well understood.
>>25305456Your version of events is the fringe interpretation and you seem pathological in your inability to recognize the opposition that existed and exists to Donald Trump within the Republican Party, determined to present it as a strategy by the Republicans contrary to the facts. Anyone that opposed him was lying and the fact he threatened to split the vote is irrelevant? Okay, buddy. Go do your crayoning.
>>25305464All that matters is they allowed him to run, whatever version of events you are coming up with to explain otherwise is irrelevant, they have options that they didn't exercise and still fail to exercise. One hundred years from now, that is what will matter to historians not what some irrelevant senators and congressmen from some flyover state said but surprisingly failed to act on.
>>25305474It’s an important distinction. Issues typically important to Republicans, such as the constitution and states’ rights, have been trampled on by Trump, so the ideologically driven, principled people in the party have opposed him, but he has popular support that he’s repeatedly leveraged against any opponent. The party did not shift to a more “extremist” position embodied by Trump because Trump doesn’t seem to have any consistent position. They’re dragged along by a movement that preceded Trump in a figure like Palin but which was used by Trump to take what he wants and they’ve been unable to stop him so they’ve compromised. The question of whether or not Trump represents a more extreme position for the party is obviously hugely important, idiot.
>>25304934So he's a Kabbalist transhumanist, just like every other member of the modern elite lol. Nothing out of the ordinary, still putrid from a moral perspective.
>>25305511>hugely important, idiot.Not particularly, since he's still in power. Distinctions remain irrelevant.
>>25301633https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
>>25305573How’s the crayoning going? You suggested Trump is an extremist that the party has moved toward, and when challenged, you’ve just called everything irrelevant. Nobody has said Trump isn’t in power, retard. If you’re going to claim something, you should have the balls to back it up instead of handwaving everything away. You’re dumb faggot.
>>25305391Joel Webbon is the most based neo-calvinist but Doug Wilson is Pete Hegseth's favorite pastor and he is a theocrat.
>>25304087Oh yeah racism is so Christian lmao
>>25305422Ah, but OP's said 'Fisher took Marxism to its natural conclusion' . That word attracts many pseuds (including myself) to screech and bicker endlessly. Like flies on shit. We (You) can't help it kek.
>>25304940Well they can't exactly just make some kind of "proof of whiteness" to keep benefits otherwise they'd call him racist.
>>25303668dont car
>>25305904Enjoy your $1.5T military budget
>>25304934As retarded as accelerationism and his whole philosophy is one much give credit for predicting the likes of Musk and Zuck who now openly stand behind Trump, lending him all the tech power neede to lull idiotic Americans into voting for him.
Your options are:>hitch your credibility, ideology and legacy decades in the making to a speculative asset bubble centered around chatbots and a historically unpopular child molester president who is on track to causing a global energy crisis on behalf of repulsive Israelis who everyone hates>kill yourselfNeither are a good choice but at least Fisher went out on his own terms without disgracing himself tailing the spurious whims of trailer park degenerates and rich pedophiles.
Does he still glaze Trump
>>25305668>most based neo-calvinistneo calvinism is a katamari of discredited nonsense for the disaffected children of puritans to roll with
