Post and discussion about any type of history book.>Vengeance: The Last Stands of Custer, Crazy Horse, and Sitting Bull by Tom Clavin>On June 25–26, 1876, the Battle of the Little Bighorn, commonly referred to as Custer's Last Stand, was fought between combined forces of the Lakota Sioux, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho tribes and the 7th Cavalry Regiment of the United States Army. Along the Little Bighorn River in Montana Territory, the battle resulted in the devastating defeat of U.S. forces and was the most significant action of the Great Sioux War of 1876.https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/240019835-vengeancehttps://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-the-Little-Bighornhttps://www.worldhistory.org/George_Armstrong_CusterPrevious thread: >>25234505
>>25304749The Road To Disunion: Secessionists at Bay, 1776-1854 by William W. Freehlinghttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/19255589-the-road-to-disunion
Still on Ghost Wars & Dancing in the Glory of Monsters FML
after reading the national history of my country I have decided to read a national history of every nation on earth
>>25304749Any similar books besides this and Plagues & Peoples?
The Gunpowder Age: China, Military Innovation, and the Rise of the West in World History by Tonio Andrade>Tonio Andrade examines the historical trajectory of gunpowder technology and its military implications, particularly focusing on China and the West. The book provides a fresh perspective on why China, despite being the birthplace of gunpowder and initially leading in its military applications, fell behind Western nations by the early 1800s.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25440222-the-gunpowder-age
>>25306686I've considered this too, but some countries just have too much for one book and some are too irrelevant. How are you gonna get a whole book out of south sudan?
I found this a pretty illuminating read as somebody unfamiliar with the history of the Muslim world, but what I found particularly informative was way it rendered the "Muslim mindset" to a non-Muslim. It's essentially an explainer for how Islamic culture saw the world at various points in history, how they explained history and major world events. I had some assumptions going in about what "disrupted" referred to, and believed at first it would build up to the crusades. But as it turns out, the crusades were an altogether minor setback for the Islamic world. While they were an immense hardship for the people of the Levant, overall, Islam found the Crusader states bothersome, rather than catastrophic. The real catastrophe, that massive disruption that totally derailed Dar-al-Islam, was the Mongols. I had no idea the apocalyptic damage the Mongols did to the Islamic world, nor the effect it had on their religious beliefs.
>>25306791Is there any other histories like this? Like global history through Chinese or Indian eyes?
>>25306791I thought it was neat too. At first it sounded like grievance slop but the author is actually pretty mild and even-handed.
>>25304889This guy seems like a chode but I'll look into it regardless
Some anon recommended picrel in the previous thread - It is a great read and I'm interested in more detailed histories of some of the peoples and cultures described there. For example, the story of the Irish peregrini sailing around the North Sea was fascinating
We need a rentry for these threads. I have missed to many books rec'd here already.
>>25306713Epidemics and Society
The Making of Modern Japan>Since 1600 Japan has undergone three periods of wrenching social and institutional change, following the imposition of hegemonic order on feudal society by the Tokugawa shogun; the opening of Japan's ports by Commodore Perry; and defeat in World War II. The Making of Modern Japan charts these changes: the social engineering begun with the founding of the shogunate in 1600, the emergence of village and castle towns with consumer populations, and the diffusion of samurai values in the culture.
>>25309252>World Economic Forum Number One BookEhhhh....ok I guess
>>25304749
>>25307767here's the updated WWI book chart from the other thread. It can't be shared here due to file resolution size.https://i.imgur.com/TMAuNyH.jpeg
Recent book haul.
>>25310789I own The Little Ice Age on e-reader, how does it compare to Geoffrey Parkers "Global Crisis"?
>>25310826I don't know, I only just got it and is on my to read list lel. I bought it based on a recommendation from another anon in the previous thread.
I've read A History of Christianity from Diarmaid MacCulloch, his other books are also worth reading? "Lower than the angels" and "Silence: A Christian History" in particular. What about "The Reformation" ?
>>25307432Hey that was me! It's a very fun book & gives you a starting point to learn about the various cultures around the globe & their relation to the Atlantic ocean. Wished the author made a sequal for the Pacific or various others like the Indian Ocean. I think the roughest part of the book for me had to be the subchapter (subheadings?) on Viking instruments. It just didn't click with me that bit. It was interesting learning on various topics from the Calusa tribes & their middens, to Irish desert brothers braving the seas in their little boats & their various types of martyrdom. Lots of stopping of points for personal research & for other books.
>>25310975Also going to be starting this! I couldn't get into the Invasion of Italy books which sucks but enjoying this. Gonna do a double back to back with this & "The Battle of Stalingrad Through German Eyes: The Death of the Sixth Army" but idk if that will result in burnout so we will see. I also just finished a book on German PoWs in North Wales. I will write up my thoughts on it tomorrow after visiting a castle.>>25310789Went to a charity store & two Max Hastings books on WW1 & 2 for £2. Then yesterday got like 5 for £10. I can't remember the titles but I know one was of nurses in war & conflicts.
>>25310789>>25310988I also want to get some Mark Felton books as some of the topics interest me but they are kinda expensive for me :/On this note, has anyone read his books? Are they of a high quality? I've heard some people call him a fraud but I don't know enough about the situation.
>>25310904>What about "The Reformation" ?Yes it's quite good.
It's just unbelievable how much superior nonfiction is to fiction. Yes, even the classics. I remember forcing myself to read shit like the Iliad and Candide and feeling like a slog. Then I picked up books like Seeing Like a State and the difference was like night and day.Reading about ACTUAL THINGS AND PLACES just feels to much more fascinating than reading the shallow world building and character motivations of places like Oceania or Middle Earth and Ralkolnikov or Odysseus.Really glad to see other /lit/zens are waking up to the superiority of nonfiction with these generals.>>25310789>>25310826Don't know about Global Crisis but The Little Ice Age has passages like these. It's a neat little book that concisely describes the eponymous climactic phenomenon.
While browsing Goodreads I stumbled upon this.It has a really high score on the platform and glowing reviews BUT... I did my research and turns out this "Dan Jones" is a pop historian that seemingly prefers doing TV appearances than actual research. I'm also suspicious of the subtitle. Whenever a book advertises itself as "A New History of X" you have to assume it's revisionist, right?Should I still give it a try anyways or nah?Also, are Under the Black Flag and The Age of the Vikings good primers on the Golden Age of Piracy and the Viking Age respectively or should I read something else?
>>25304749Does anyone know of a good book on the 19th Century Italian unification?
>>25311295Pic rel is on my TBR, so I can't personally attest to how good it is
>>25311340I'll keep looking then
>>25311223>Under the Black Flagby David Cordingly? I own it, haven't read it. apparently its more of a history of piracy in popular culture than piracy in actuality, but I'd recommend Black Flags, Blue Waters if you want something more about the actual practice through the ages.
>>25311067How does it compare to the one from Owen Chadwick?
>>25304749best history of penal systems besides picrel and Discipline & Punish? I'm the same anon who asked for history of law recs in the last thread.
>>25306881I'm not sure, but I'd be interested in them as well. This book is the product of the author's personal experience as an British Afghan, somebody who has lived in both the cultural traditions of Islam, and the west, and chafed at the misunderstandings his western friends and mentors had about his homeland, and about Muslims in general. As >>25306895 pointed out, he's surprisingly even-handed in his discussions and doesn't use the book as an opportunity to vent his grievances, but rather, it is a genuine attempt to educate people.So I think we just have to wait for a similar author to come along for China and India, though unfortunately the Chinese one is going to be hard to find in the sea of Chinese diaspora literature that exists currently.
>>25312376Michele Pifferi - Reinventing Punishment: A Comparative History of Criminology and Penology in the 19th and 20th Century.Jesus christ I feel like an old man. I spent easily 5 minutes figuring out the captcha. Fuck 4chan these days man.
>>25312678>104 dollarsWelp, off to annas
>>25311223>The Age of the VikingsThe one by Anders Winroth?
Backcountry War: The Rise of Francis Marion, Banastre Tarleton, and Thomas Sumter by Andrew Waters>Explores the intense guerrilla fighting during the American Revolution in South Carolina, focusing on the contributions of these three key figures. The narrative highlights their roles in pivotal battles and the broader context of the war in the southern theater.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/210864310-backcountry-war
>>25304749I highly enjoyed The Last Stand by Nathaniel Philbrick.
>>25311223Read Neil Price for viking stuff
>>25314092Yeah that one
>>25304749What are some good histories of late 1600s/early 1700s wars?
>>25315110Tim Blanning - The Pursuit of GloryHoward Peckham - The Colonial WarsRobert Gaudi - The War of Jenkins EarJames Falkner - The War of Spanish SuccessionJohn Lynn - The Wars of Louis XIVReed Browning - The War of the Austrian Succession
>>25310975Thanks again for the recommendation!>Lots of stopping of points for personal research & for other books.My plan is to follow it up with more reading on the Portuguese exploration and expansion, as I have a general interest in their history, and this book proved a great starting point, putting it all in the broader context of the region.
>>25315148Thanks. I just got Blanning's history of Romanticism, wondering if its as good as Isaiah Berlin's work on the subject
>>25315110King Philip's War
Ive been reading scifi for the past decade or so. I want to read some history. I used to read shit like Herodotus, tacitus, xenophon, but I can't imagine going back to that. The last history book I read was the devils chessboard. I need some recommendations of history books that are not too long or academic but also haven't been outright debunked. I like cia/conspiracy shit, military stuff mostly modern, and stuff with action(?) thanks
>>25316592You might like picrel
>>25316562Thanks
>>25316592Read works on wars written by soldiers who were in them. Like a modern day Thucydides or Xenophon. The stuff by soldiers in the conflicts like Rhodesia and Angola is very interesting.
Will be starting the Oxford history of the US soon, looks like the book that covers the progressive era and the roaring 20s got pushed back yet again, any recs for filling in that gap? I've seen Brands' "American Colossus" and Jackson Lears' "Rebirth of a Nation" if anyone is familiar with them.
>>25316952I actually read part of Richard White's The Republic For Which It Stands so far. Its not bad but he simps for Andrew Johnson a bit
>>25307432>>25315313Just finished 'Ocean' and jumped right into this one. Still early on it feels like a straight continuation, and the style seems similar. Can't wait to get to the struggle with the Ottomans over the Indian Ocean. From what I know of the conflict, it looks kinda like an early modern version of the Cold War, proxy-wars, embargoes and puppet rulers included.
Whats the Edward gibbon equivalent for Greek civilization
>>25317460probably Jacob Burckardt's "Greeks And Greek Civilization"
Worth a read? I'm a crusade mood and I'm want to start from the beginning
>>25306791Ordered and arriving today. Thanks for posting this, it sounds good.
>>25316592I'd unironically recommend World Order by Henry Kissinger, regardless of what you may think of the man. Very digestable, fairly short and very relevant for understanding modern world politics (although it is a little bit outdated since it was written in 2013 I think?). It might not quite be what you're looking for based on what you mentioned that you liked (cia/conspiracy shit, military stuff mostly modern, and stuff with action) but I think that there's enough overlap in the subject matter to the point where you'll probably find it interesting. Give it a read.
>>25311650>Owen ChadwickHaven't read him. Diarmaid MacCulloch and Roland Bainton are the most engaging authors on the Reformation that I've come across.
>>25316592> Confessions of an Economic HitmanThe information seems right but I can't make up my mind if the author actually did the things he claims.>Gold Warriors: America's Secret Recovery of Yamashita's GoldPretty sure this is the 'conspiracy' version. Saw it recced on /pol/ or /x/. Never got around to reading it though. It's about the Japanese loot from WW2 and what the Americans did with it after officially not finding it.> Programmed to kill, the politics of serial murder.Obligatory 4chan reading really. About the satanic elites and shows accounts of how they groom people.
>>25306791>I had some assumptions going in about what "disrupted" referred to, and believed at first it would build up to the crusades. But as it turns out, the crusades were an altogether minor setback for the Islamic world. While they were an immense hardship for the people of the Levant, overall, Islam found the Crusader states bothersome, rather than catastrophic. The sad part is, even though he's correct about that when it comes to the perspective of Muslims back then, a lot of modern Muslims believe otherwise. Personally I blame how the Crusades narratives was effectively rewritten by Walter Scott's literature in changing how the Crusades were really depicted and how it later influenced mass-media like Kingdom of Heaven (it also completely ruined the reputation of the Templars for both westerners and Muslims, but that's a whole other discussion). If you speak to a lot of modern Muslims today, they will be just as ignorant about this as the average westerners unless they are particularly knowledgeable about Islamic history. Hell a lot of Muslims genuinely believe in a lot of westernized myths about Muslims in history, which is kinda funny and sad at the same time.
Just bought Gibbons Decline and fall of the Roman empire, folio edition Please congratulate me or call me stupid, whatever you preferI need anonymous online approval to justify my purchase and the hours I'm going to spend reading it
>>25317479It is fantastic, one of my favourite history reads in recent years. Gives a very presentation of the why and how. I think you'll enjoy it.>>25319448Read the first book and you'll know. It has nice but bombastic prose, tons of sweeping moralistic statements, and a wholly outdated view of ancient Rome. Either you enjoy the prose and read it like a novel, read it like you would the ancient sources like Suetonius as a historiographical exercise and as a product of it's time, or you put it to the side and read something more modern. It is more of a mantle piece than something worth reading for a modern layperson imo.
>>25319553Fuck. You. Gibbon is still the peak. He is objectively correct. >shitting on suetonius.You're worthless
>>25319553I'm more interested in thinking like a Grand Strategist. The Sid Meiers games don't give me that kick anymore. So I have to begin my self-education to become Chief of Staff for whoever leads the world government we're going to have in 25 years time.Will Gibbons give me that kick?Image related is the series I'm currently reading.
>>25319601Read Luttwak and G Wess Mitchell too
Which Primary sources would you say are must read for medieval age in western europe? Joinville is already on my list.
>>25319660get Gregory Of Tours and Einhard
>>25311223>Powers andThronesIt's pop history of course but I enjoyed it.
>>25319448If you're happy with it, that's all that matters. Folio has a lot of haters on this board, probably because most anons (including me) can't afford them.
>>25319660Strictly for history there are none. The medieval mindset was so stuck in blatantly false ideas of biblical and classical mythology that most is worthless as a regular history book, and you need scholars that can cross-check tons of sources or do philological analysis to get anything out of it.
>>25317934Ordered, thanks
>>25319284>Programmed to killYeah, obligatory, though it was recommended to me by my ex girlfriend in like 2008.
>>25320421>blatantly false ideas of biblical and classical mythologyModernist presentism.
>>25320421This is one of the stupidest fucking most pseudo-historian takes I've ever fucking seen.Hell the moment you seriously start to engage with classical antiquity, you realize classical antiquity primary sources do arguably MUCH worse in that era than anything from the medieval era.
Anyone got any recommendations on books about the Assyrians?
>>25321271The only one I know is this one
>>25321271You have a little bit about Assyrians in "Ancient Iraq" by Georges roux but among other topics.>>25321574That's one of the best on the subject for casual reader.
>>25321271The Assyrian by Nicholas Guild isn't a history but it's well researched historical fiction. You might enjoy it.
>>25320421Lolwut
>>25321574>>25321638>>25321664Thanks lads
>>25322304hey at least I tried
>>25320767So what? The point is not to learn what people of the past thought, the point is to learn the past. You're supposed to use modern perspectives.>>25321131Hardly. Most classical histories reduce their scope to what they can source, and the extent to which they mythologise has been greatly exaggerated by pseuds - especially Herodotus. The one that mythologises heaviest is Josephus, who is drawing on biblical lies just like the medievals, but at least he wasn't pretending everyone was a secret trojan or lost tribe of israel.
>>25322833>The point is not to learn what people of the past thought, the point is to learn the past.what is the history of mentalities?
Why is the word "nigger" so funny to modern ears? I am reading about the tulsa race riot and I can't stop laughing at the part when a white guy walks up to a black guy and refers to him as "nigger"
>>25323716That was the ‘red summer’ of nineteen nineteen or something like that
I don't think there was ever a point in history where Russia's military WASN'T full of incompetent fucking retards, lmao.
>>25319553>a wholly outdated view of ancient Rome>read it like a novel>read it like you would the ancient sources like Suetonius I detest this contemporary view of history wherein every single detail has to be corroborated and checked and checked again. This isn't how human memory works, every single person remembers shared experiences completely differently. History is amorphous, a long tale of trillions of personal anecdotes woven together, on certain dates certain events categorically happened, but the details of them, the interesting details that is, come from oral histories, witnesses, participants anecdotes, and if an event was written about centuries after it occurred, then with reverence for the mythology that the event has taken on in the intervening years. Once history lost its mythology, its fantastical elements, it lost all soul and became a boring academic wank session. The Greco-Roman historians are amazing, and they should be taken as gospel.
>>25324430Female moment
What's your favorite history book in regards to China? I've been stuck on and mystified by China for years now and I feel like I can never discuss it on /lit/.
>>25323716Because it has been rendered absurd by progressives>>25323283A subgenre of history and not what most history is for, stop being disingenuous.>>25324446It's hard to get into desu. I'm annoyed that the cambridge history of china STILL isn't finished so I'll probably try out the harvard history of imperial china series
>>25324476>stop being disingenuous
Any good books on court jesters? This was okay, but it felt pretty unfocused and didn't really give me a complete picture of jesters in any culture.
Any good books on semiotics and symboles meaning and evolution through history? Around the medieval period would be best or the progression from antiquity to early middle ages maybe linked to the theological aspect of the changes happening throughout europe at that time.
>>25326177Hey, I got that for my birthday but haven't finished it. What's wrong with it?
>>25323716It was just a generic term for a Congoid back then, but just like Negro academia and the "elite" suddenly decided it was the highest form of blasphemy so that's what it has been for a few decades now.
>>25324391>>Yeneisei, set about mining the approaches to the harbour. The sea was choppy and a mine waswashed against the ship’s rudder. She blew up. Eighty of the ship’s company of 200were saved, but the ship took with her the charts of the minefields laid so far. Thecruiser Boyarin, sent out to investigate the loss of the Yeneisei, hit one of the mines and was subsequently abandoned.
>>25325836How detailed is it? I have the Villa bio by Friedrich Katz, but haven't gotten to it yet.
What's that Frederick II biography everyone's been going crazy for?
>>25326177Oh crap sorry you didn't like it. I recommended it on /lit/ without reading it so that may be my fault if you got it from here.If you want to read the one other book on fools that I have but haven't read there's this one (in image).I also have a book named Catafalque by Peter Kingsley and the 1st chapter is 90 or so pages on the 'Mystical Fool's but that's Jungian stuff and I haven't read it so once again, not sure if that's of any interest to you.That's where my foolish suggestions end.
>>25327817The only one that I'm aware of is by Robert Asprey, I thought it was quite good.
>>25326221gotchu
Cnut the Great
My shelf fell because my dumbass put too much stuff on it. The main reason is due to these. There is so much it's kinda daunting, It has like 4.5 million words in total. Feels like each book would take a year for me alone to read
>>25326848>I have the Villa bio by Friedrich Katz>Stanford University Press>1000 pagesThat's definitely going to be more detailed, the book by Womack is a solid overview but its only 435 pages.
I usually read about antiquity, but Americas quarter millennium is coming up. Best written American history books you know? Something that’ll reignite the spark of wonder and reverence I felt for this nation as a kid?
>>25332636
Okay, I'm interested in the period after WW1 to the start of the cold war. Any book recommendations? I haven't read anything on the subject so anything goes. I'm open to just about anything: economics, war, politics, culture, specific and so on but it has to be european history. Specific european countries are ok too
>>25329696How are the books in this collection? Any stand outs?
>>25332636>The strife that armed all the civilized world began here. “Such was the complication of political interests,” says Voltaire, “that a cannon-shot fired in America could give the signal that set Europe in a blaze.” Not quite. It was not a cannon-shot, but a volley from the hunting-pieces of a few backwoodsmen, commanded by a Virginian youth, George Washington.>The most momentous and far-reaching question ever brought to issue on this continent was: Shall France remain here, or shall she not?>The Seven Years War made England what she is. It crippled the commerce of her rival, ruined France in two continents, and blighted her as a colonial power. It gave England the control of the seas and the mastery of North America and India, made her the first of commercial nations, and prepared that vast colonial system that has planted new Englands in every quarter of the globe.>Foot by foot they advanced into the waste of lonely mountains that divided the streams flowing to the Atlantic from those flowing to the Gulf of Mexico,—a realm of forests ancient as the world. The road was but twelve feet wide, and the line of march often extended four miles. It was like a thin, long party-colored snake, red, blue, and brown, trailing slowly through the depth of leaves, creeping round inaccessible heights, crawling over ridges, moving always in dampness and shadow, by rivulets and waterfalls, crags and chasms, gorges and shaggy steeps. In glimpses only, through jagged boughs and flickering leaves, did this wild primeval world reveal itself, with its dark green mountains, flecked with the morning mist, and its distant summits pencilled in dreamy blue.>At that early day a white flag fluttering over a cluster of palisades and embankments betokened the first intrusion of civilized men upon a scene which, a few months before, breathed the repose of a virgin wilderness, voiceless but for the lapping of waves upon the pebbles, or the note of some lonely bird. But now the sleep of ages was broken, and bugle and drum told the astonished forest that its doom was pronounced and its days numbered.
>>25304749I like reading about the collapses of nations and the end of empires and specifically the personalities/psychologies of the leaders in the lead up to the collapse. Did you know that montezuma was a giant pussy who sat in his throne room and did nothing while the spanish advanced on the capital because of “bad omens” or some shit but montezuma’s brother actually had a spine and fought?
>>25332879Pretty vague & large period. Honestly the best thing to do would be to look up wiki of the period of those & look up books on the conflicts/events https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_20th_century#1920s
Any good histories of Rhodesia from the White perspective? The UDI days.
>>25310988Reading picrel & itsd pretty good but I hate how he does some of his sources. so instead of the usual number association we are so commonly used to. He uses a partial quote instead which is rather annoying. Also some mentions to stuff yet I can't find any sources for the claim in the references area. I'll write further on this tomorrow.
>>25333760recommend me some fall of empires and nations books?
>>25334323
>>25334383Already own it. Got any more?
>>25333912No, you fucking RACIST.
>>25334383Beware of the handwringing in this one. Any time something offensive to modern sensibilities is mentioned, he feels compelled to stop the narrative and cry for a paragraph. "On this palette we can see the prisoners being beheaded, which is awful, and cruel, and barbaric. Slave labor was used to build that tomb, which is awful, and cruel, and barbaric. Here is a king depicted with an axe, which proves how awful, cruel and barbaric he was".Switched to Marc Van De Mieroop with no regrets.
>>25334393Malding
>>25334408>Marc Van De MieroopNot paying 40 dollars for a book
>>25334323Not quite "fall of empires" but>The Assassination of Julius Caesar by Michael Parenti is pretty good. He's a Marxist, but it did seriously make me reconsider my views on Caesar and the populares.For a classic on roughly the same time period there's>The Roman Revolution by Ronald Symewhich focuses more on how Augustus dismantled the old Roman aristocracy and replaced it with his own Italian oligarchy propped up by the military
>>25317479Guardian praise…Yeah I’m good
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! WHAT'S THE BEST BOOK ABOUT THE SOVIET INVASION OF MANCHURIA AND THE BEST BOOK ABOUT THE CHINESE STRATEGY AND TACTICS IN THE KOREAN WAR!?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
>>25334583I'm pretty sure David Glantz has at least a couple of books about the Soviet Invasion of Manchuria. Haven't read them personally, but Glantz is solid if you want autistic detail
Anyone know any good books about the Kingdom of Hungary?
>>25335443The one that always gets recommended in those /hislit/ threads. The Realm of St Stephen. And yes, its great, read it. Hungarian medieval history is vastly underrated
Any great books about the history of SCUBA diving?
>>25335644I just gave you one last thread
>>25335703I don't remember what it was called and that was like... four threads ago :,^(
I just look up books on a conflict & purchase the one with the best rating. Is there a better method than this?
>>25335727Its called Scuba AMerica. I saw picrel which might be interesting side piece to go alongside
>>25335727There is also this & Diving Pioneers but I cant speak to their quality since I don't own them & wouldn't pay £35 to see their quality
>>25335731Hmmm.... kthnx
>>25335735Shoot forgot picture
picrel was pretty good, I might read proper history next, sleepwalker for this summer maybe
>>25335535Thanks lad.
>>25336466Already read it
>>25304749Good histories of civics?
>>25335770Second this.Book was recommended by my Coy cmdt, highly recommend.
I'm about 600 pages into this beast. Hitler hasn't quite taken power yet. Only 3000 pages to go.Anyone read it? Is it worth persevering?I am enjoying it, but dear lord it's long
>>25336793Sounds like you are not enjoying it
What would you recommend to start reading about knights? Primary source heavily prefered over secondary unless they are quite old I don't want any recent garbage about knights gender or else.
>>25337821>The Book of Chivalry of Geoffroi de Charny
>>25332879You can check out the WWI book chart for direct consequences and postwar stuff.>>25310786You can specifically check out To Hell and Back from the Penguin History of Europe series which covers 1914 to 1945 of Europe.
>>25304889how would a Lost Cause proponent view this book?
>>25304749Any good books on the history of chemical weapons?
>>25339410Biohazard by Ken Alibek and A Higher Form of Killing I thought were excellent.
>>25339410This is pretty neat if you want to learn about German Scientist & their relation to chemical weapons and work post war. It also includes biological weapons, rocketry, medicine & I'd like to say some nuclear but can't 100% remember
>>25339540>>25339575Thanks guys
>>25339540>Alibek has a wife and five children (two sons and three daughters); one of his daughters is autistic.Huh, so am I.
>>25339629NOOOOOO, HOW WILL SOVIET BIOLOGICAL WARFARE EVER RECOVER!?
>>25339633Que???
I's jus' dun picked up dis'un. I hope iss goo'
>>25339820Might pick that one up. I have Walter Prescott Webb's book on the Texas Rangers. On another note whats a good history of parasitic organisms?
>>25336793>I am enjoying it, but dear lord it's longStay the course. You have much to learn.
>>25339244Thanks this is really good!
>>25340807Parasite Rex
>>25306791Have this being delivered in a couple hours. Seems interesting, thank you for the post sir
>>25340892Doesn't look like a history
>>25341463Too bad.
Saw an anon talk about the cambridge series on the history of china, how dry is the content of the books? I kinda want to read them but worried it will be rather dry.Also what do you call those kinds of books? Just collections?
>>25304749I'm scouring annas for a copy of Eleanor Doughty's Heirs And Graces: A History Of The British Aristocracy and I can't find shit. can someone help me here?
>>25341609very unhelpful. do better.
>>25342545The dryness varies heavily because it's a compilation of chapters by multiple authors. But the cambridge histories series is generally very high quality and very thorough. The china series specifically has been on hold for years on the final volume because of one fucking guy though, I don't know why they didn't just get someone else.>what do you call those kinds of books?You mean an academic collaboration with multiple authors and a general editor, or maybe a series editor? It doesn't really have a name, referencing conventions just call it an edited book. You'll find all kinds of series' like that if you search academic publishers though.>>25342660It only came out late last year anon, these things usually take time.>>25334323Decline and fall of the Sasanian Empire
>>25304749Damn ,for a couple minutes there I thought Tom Clancy had released a historical thriller.
>>25342664Enjoy missing out on a great book, I guess???
>>25342719Fair enough.
>>25336895I am enjoying it, but the pace was pretty flat for a long time there. It was interesting enough to keep me engaged, but life is short and my tbr list is very long.>>25340863I'm now a bit further in and the pace has picked up. Hitler has seized everything and just withdrawn from the League of Nations.I'll keep going. I am learning a lot.
>>25343063Are you rooting for Hitler?
>>25342679Did you find any of the authors as subpar or not to your liking?
>>25343063Any mentions of niche organisations like the National socialist flying/motor corp?
>>25343315I started it with an open mind, but more I read, the more he seems like a total cunt. The way he treated Rohm, his oldest and most loyal friend, is the worst thing he's done so far, along with fucking over the SA. Psycho thugs, sure, but they were his psycho thugs. Previous to that he does some fucked up stuff, but it's all in the name of getting himself and his guys into power, so understandable. >>25344285Not so far, but it's early days. I'll keep an eye out for them.
>>25345209>the more he seems like a total cunt.Hitler had an 7 INT and 20 CHA.
>>25342679Thanks
>>25345209Most online Strasserites ive come across were cunts themselves so I guess its just desserts.
Pretty good.
>>25306686based
>Fate Is the Hunter is a 1961 memoir by Ernest K. Gann that recounts his experiences as a commercial airline pilot and wartime aviator, spanning the 1930s through the postwar years. >The book details nearly ten thousand hours of flight time, including operations with early aircraft such as the DC-2, DC-3, and DC-4, as well as transatlantic and hazardous cargo missions during World War II with the Air Transport Command.
>>25304749>Wow! A spanish Language book on Maya philosophy released in this decade? With an availiable PDF online?>Look inside>Abya YalaI'm fucking hanging myself, I guess I will have to read a book in english, again.
la révolution industrielle du moyen-âge de Jean Gimpel.so far,interesting.
Currently salivating at the thought of this but it's absurdly fucking expensive.>Just steal itFuck off.
Are there any really good books on the Inquisition? Primary sources would be ideal such as accounts written by an inquisitor, or letters an inquisitor sent to higher authorities. I’m also looking for similar material on the Black Death: personal accounts, or writings connected to plague doctors from later outbreaks.
>>25354746Not a first hand account but you might like this
Just finished this & it was an amazing book! However oldy enough every so often there would be a page with a completely different font & size.
>>25355175Oops forgot to mention it was Antony Beevors Stalingrad but I already posted a pic of it in this thread
>>25304749Whats some good recent scholarship on the events in picrel? I want to know if there's any thesis that proves or disproves the arguments contain therewithin. Books on late antiquity in general are appreciated too.
>>25353713If you're dumb enough to object to book piracy then you deserve to be ripped off
>>25355411Bryan Ward-Perkins, Peter Heather, and Adrian Goldsworthy all reject the continuity thesis.
>>25355447Thanks
>Names on the Land: A Historical Account of Place-Naming in the United States by George R. Stewart
>>25304749are there any good cultural or intellectual histories of democracy like Helena Rosenblatt and Alan Kahan do for liberalism?
Any good recs for the interwar period?
>>25357322
>>25351723qrd?
>>25358810Shit I just bought that twenty minutes ago
>>25357235Anyone?
>>25304749Does anyone have any recs for a solid Hapsburgs series, or at least the period of time after the Franco-German War 1870-1871 to collapse of Austria?
>>25360407There's this
Which one on the Punic wars? I'm also open to other stuff
This or Rise & Fall of the Third Reich?
>>25360622I have the Goldsworthy
are the historical records from Tacitus and Sallustius actually good? feeling very interested
>>25361563Germania is essential reading, the rest is not that important.
>>25333912Peter Baxter's book is pretty even handed
Good books about the Eurasian Steppes? Don't have a specific thing i'm looking for, just anything decent.
>>25363434you might like this
>>25363866Interesting, thanks anon.
>>25364197No problem. I have a pretty pathetic life but the least I can do is help those when I can.
>>25364201You’re a good person anon and you will accomplish greater things than you realise.
>>25364330Thanks, I needed that.
Anyone know any books about Japan in antiquity?
Pretty good book, I guess it's not a traditional "history" book but it's well-written and a genuine page-turner.
>>25365385I have this on my wishlist. Any other maritime history would be cool, too.
>>25319335>Hell a lot of Muslims genuinely believe in a lot of westernized myths about Muslims in history, which is kinda funny and sad at the same time.Speaks to the hegemonic power of western media. It's not just pop culture, it's also academia, or even entire fields of research. Western countries have sort of monopolized this authoritative, scholarly position in history, anthropology, and archaeology. There are more published Egyptologists in Britain than in Egypt.
>>25364526Cambridge History of Japan, volume 1
>>25365463Sounds like a skill issue
>>25360407The Habsburg Empire by Pieter Judson should be it. I thought it would cover their entire history but it actually focuses heavily from the mid 1800s to the break up. It covers the 1848 revolution, the relationship with Hungary, the people's of Austria-Hungary, etc. It makes a case for how the empire was actually working despite how complicated it was but how ultimately WWI was too much for it to handle and it broke it.
>>25365639Great, thanks.
The Spanish War
Kearny's March>In June 1846, General Stephen Watts Kearny rode out of Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, with two thousand soldiers, bound for California. At the time, the nation was hell-bent on expansion: James K. Polk had lately won the presidency by threatening England over the borders in Oregon, while Congress had just voted, in defiance of the Mexican government, to annex Texas. After Mexico declared war on the United States, Kearny’s Army of the West was sent out, carrying orders to occupy Mexican territory. When his expedition ended a year later, the country had doubled in size and now stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific, fulfilling what many saw as the nation’s unique destiny—and at the same time setting the stage for the American Civil War.
I've taken the foote-pill and I have no regrets
>>25371939Foote-pill me. I’ve heard mixed things. I’m reading Bruce Catton now and after him it’s either McPherson or Foote
>>25365428>>25335770this one was a pager turner too, once they get sailing
>>25373365I've read that McPherson book and Foote mogs imo. He just said "fuck scholarly sources" and shoots from the hip with his writing which I thought I wouldn't like but I'm finding it to be really refreshing. You'll read a line like "a chill went down Lyon's spine when he heard the Confederate cannons in the distance" like yeah ok there's no way he could possibly know that but that literary flair really brings the story and the characters to life and Foote is such a chad that he can get away with it
>>25373365Shelby Foote and Bruce Catton are the best multivolume ones to read, Robert Leckie and Allen Guelzo for single-volume books.
>>25374304Thanks. Do you know how much overlap is there in Bruce Cattons work? I know it’s all covering the same stuff, but like if I read “this hallowed ground”, “the army of the Potomac trilogy”, and the grant duology am I just going to be reading more or less the exact same words about say Cold Harbor or Appomattox three times in a row or does each book have its own focus, details, and insights?
>>25373365to add to >>25374132, Foote studied the war extensively and had constantly drew on sources, but he didnt feel the need to drown the book in citations, and he made an effort to go into the minds of the men beyond what academia strictly allows.His trilogy is the best on the subject in my opinion, and I have read around fifty books on it
>>25374344>Do you know how much overlap is there in Bruce Cattons work? I know it’s all covering the same stuff, but like if I read “this hallowed ground”, “the army of the Potomac trilogy”, and the grant duology am I just going to be reading more or less the exact same wordsAs far as I know they are all original writings, I don't think he ever 'repurposed' material for books. This Hallowed Ground and The Centennial History of the Civil War books are his best in terms of good prose. I wouldn't bother reading those other books unless you are a military history wonk.
Recommended books for the 100 years war? What's the go-to book on this?
Screw that ^ what history book best explains the complete 180 of Britain and France going from eternal enemies to becoming eternal allies?
Anybody got any good recommendations on the whole "Yellow Peril" scare of the late 1800s to mid 1900s?
>>25377150Sumption of course. How is that even a question
>>25377263I self identify with those people
>>25377150I second Sumption with the caveat that he’s been writing this series for close to 40 years so depending on how long he lives it might well end up unfinished.
>>25377780Anon, he finished it, the final volume came out last year >>25377185There was no such thing like 'France' or 'England' during that time, national states only emerged later
>>There was no such thing like 'France' or 'England' during that time, national states only emerged laterOh look, an idiot.
>>25378519Woah, thanks
>>25374418I bought the trilogy sight unseen largely based on Joe Abercrombie's fierce recommendation. Haven't read it yet though. Too many books is the same as having two few books- the more you acquire, the harder it is to actually commit to reading them.
>>25304749David Fromkin or Sean McMeekin for Ottoman Empire?
>>25380329I have over 3,000
>>25361531>>25360622I also have Goldsworthy, I love Goldsworthy's style, it's a nice synthesis between casual reading and academic complexity. I think you should start with him first, but I have a slight bias.
>>25380384So you know the struggle
>>25380404I am this guy >>25355411 someone rec'd me Perkins and Heather, should I absolutely start with Goldsworthy before them? Whats Goldsworthy's main text on the fall of Rome anyways?
>>25380435I only briefly read Heather's 'Fall of Rome', and I haven't read Perkins so I can't say. I think you should read Heather, but Perkins is both a bit old and highly focused on the Goths.As for Goldsworthy's work on the Fall of the Empire. It has two separate names:How Rome Fell (US)The Fall of the West (Everywhere else).I have not finished the Fall of Carthage book yet, and I have other /his/ works to read before I get to Goldsworthy's other works.
>>25380482Ok, thanks
>>25380405Oh yes indeed
>>25380381McMeekin
>>25329948Have you seen the documentary by Peter Jackson, "they shall not grow old"? Might spark a desire to finish reading a book.
>>25335644Get an emulator and play treasures of the deep for some inspiration.
>>25380329I had some personality from the Jimmy Kimmel show that re-enrolled in high school several times so he could get the highest score in the sat or something recommend joe Abercrombie. Does anyone know who im talking about? He has the bright idea to eat dogfood because it had a nutritious composition. He got sick from it instead.
Good read.
>>25304749Is Jurgen Kocka worth investigating if I like Reinhart Koselleck?
>>25382680>documentary by Peter JacksonIs that the one that starts off in black and white and then has colorized scenes?
>>25382680I saw that in theaters. It was awfully fucking boring and they used the same footage over and over again.
its kinda *the* book on reconstruction, the writing is really well done so the ~600 pages just breeze by. i recommend it to anyone and everyone interested in the topic. some of his other books are also great, like 'The Second Founding' which is about the legal transformations of the reconstruction amendments
The Color of Law is another great book if you're interested in the functions of local governments and lower level policy, the history of modern segregation, the housing crisis, and racism in america. very interesting companion to reading on reconstruction and for just understanding how modern american society came to be
>>25385970I need a book like this but for England
>>25385970tl;dr: segregation works
What's with all the "boo-hoo poor nibba" history books being posted ITT? Is this reddit?
>>25317460Bury
>>25386886tl;dr: segregation caused the unafforadbility crisis>>25387207sorry for triggering u, my bad
Books on Tibet?Particularly the ones that deal with how the CIA funneled money to guerillas during the early years of the CCP. Or just all round history of Tibet.
>>25385970>Rothstein>"Trust me, goy, you need to live in a neighborhood surrounded by black people, because, well... just trust me, okay?"
>>25360622I really like Bagnall's take on it, if you're interested specifically in the strategic and tactical elements. It might be best to pick up another one for more of the politics though.
>>25387813You could just be born into a body that doesn't raise rents.
>>25387813>>tl;dr: segregation caused the unafforadbility crisisFor whom? Black folk unable to afford rent is not my problem.
>>25387434That book is horribly outdated. ESPECIALLY in regards to Bronze Age Greece. Basically nothing he said held up to archeology or the decipherment of the Mycenaean script.
>>25389135What would you recommend instead? I have these two books
>>25388963Why do blacks cause rent to plummet and whites to raise it? There has to be some logic behind that.
Pompey the Great: The Roman Alexander by Lee Fratantuono>Pompey’s career in command began at a young age, taking control of his deceased father’s legions in support of Sulla during the civil war with Marius. A precocious and ambitious talent, he held repeated commands before he was the legal age. Sulla called him ‘the teenage butcher’. He served in the Sertorian War in Spain (recovering from an early defeat), helped crush Spartacus’ revolt then freed the Eastern Mediterranean from the depradations of Cilician pirates in a matter of weeks. He brought a victorious end to the long-running Third Mithridatic War and brought the whole of Asia Minor, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Judea under Roman influence by a mix of force and diplomacy.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/218142876-pompey-the-great
>>25389826Black people bring crime and poverty, which causes property values to drop. White people bring development and businesses, which cause property values to rise. Simple as.
New collection of books I got from the charity shop. Been a bit busy lately to read proper & recently reading a manga (fool night, pretty good desu & unique world to learn about)Sorry for shit picture shaky hands + old shit phone leads to subpar picture quality. The green book is on the Eastern Front.
>>25391376I have that history of modern China
>>25390694Yeah but what compels them to act this way?
>>25391607How is it? How is the prose of author? I hope it isn't too dry!
>>25306686Enter, China.
>>25389969This one’s been on my radar. Did you like it?
>>25391649I haven't looked much at it yet
Looking into these two books about the early 1900s American Chinatown "Tong Wars" but I'm not sure which one I should get.
The Klondike Fever: The Life and Death of the Last Great Gold Rush by Pierre Berton>In 1897 a grimy steamer bearing two tons of pure Klondike gold docked in Seattle, immediately triggering a stampede north to Alaska. As many as 100,000 adventurers, dreamers, and would-be miners from all over the world struck out for the remote, isolated gold fields of the Klondike Valley, most of them in total ignorance of the long, harsh Alaskan winters and the territory’s indomitable terrain. Less than a third of that number would complete the enormously arduous mountain journey to their destination, and fewer still would strike gold.https://www.bookfinder.com/isbn/9780786713172https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klondike_Gold_Rush
>>25393583I saw the title and assumed it was about ice cream.
>>25392850Post the titles
>>25393598Tong Wars: The Untold Story of Vice, Money, and Murder in New York's ChinatownAnd:Hatchet Men: The Story of the Tong Wars in San Francisco's Chinatown
I have A Distant Mirror arriving tomorrow. What am I in for, guys? I read her Guns of August and enjoyed it.
>>25391609Genetics mostly
>>25393838I read it a couple of years ago. It was pretty good and gave you a good sense of how badly the hundred years war affected everything. It also discuses knights and chivalry in a very interesting way.
>>25393604>Check the other books by the author of one of the books:>Murder in Manchuria: The True Story of a Jewish Virtuoso, Russian Fascists, a French Diplomat, and a Japanese Spy in Occupied China>A Second Reckoning: Race, Injustice, and the Last Hanging in Annapolis>The Chief Rabbi's Funeral: The Untold Story of America's Largest Antisemitic Riot>The Great Kosher Meat War of 1902: Immigrant Housewives and the Riots That Shook New York City>The Great Christmas Boycott of 1906: Antisemitism and the Battle over Christianity in the Public SchoolsGuess I won't be reading the one written by the FUCKING JEW
Emperor of Japan: Meiji and His World, 1852-1912 by Donald Keene>When Emperor Meiji began his rule, in 1867, Japan was a splintered empire, dominated by the shogun and the daimyos, who ruled over the country's more than 250 decentralized domains and who were, in the main, cut off from the outside world, staunchly antiforeign, and committed to the traditions of the past. Before long, the shogun surrendered to the emperor, a new constitution was adopted, and Japan emerged as a modern, industrialized state.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/19287505-emperor-of-japan
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>>25393838Anyone aware of any book similar to this but for the 13th century?
>>25395460>The Great Kosher Meat War of 1902How many casualties?
Give me more of your best American Civil War books. I’m on a civil war kick. I’ve read Catton and based on the rec earlier in the thread I’ll look into Shelby. Do you have more? Historical fiction also very much welcomed.
>>25395460typical chosenites always making things about themselves.
>>25399377Reveille in Washington
Am I right to get the impression that western hunter gatherers and cro magnons being depicted for the last couple years like congolese or sudanese tribesmen is a case of propaganda? I can buy them being swarthy and curly-haired like a sicilian or something, but this one smells like one of those "we got evidence that pre-neolithic europeans were yet to develop the skin colour that they have nowadays, so we're going to depict them as subsaharans for the sake of legitimizing contemporary immigration". Just like it's hardly a coincidence that it's far easier to make a career in researching late antiquity if you are a follower of "Rome didn't collapse, it was actually just culturally enriched" Peter Brown than if you are a Peter Heather "Rome definitely collapsed and it fucking sucked" type.
>>25401249Yes its propaganda, they didn't look like nogs they looked like Sardinians
>>25401262I mean, I don't mind them being quite swarthy, it's just that when I watched this lecture about how Europeans came to be, and the guy went like "so, yeah, people used to think Ötzi used to look like this because of course Europeans can't be dark skinned, but nowadays we think he looked more like this" and it just shows like a textbook subsaharan phenotype, my bullshit sensor was triggered pretty hard.Also the closer they put the "development" of phenotypically modern europeans to the present, some mentioning dates as recent as 5000 BC, the more of a mystery it becomes where did all those ebony-coloured europeans go without leaving a mark on modern euros even though the average european is like 20 percent WHG.
>>25401262And yeah, there was also the Cheddar Man debacle.
Any good recs for some aztec or meso (that kind of region) reads? Something light-ish is preferable. Not shlock and would rather it be researched but doesn't need to be a phd either.
>>25401305"Mexico From the Olmecs to the Aztecs" by Coe, Urcid and Koontz.
>>25391609You know the answer.
>>25401249Brown and Heather have their uses but I've only read Brown. Also whats some good prehistory?
>>25401870I haven't read any of these myself, but based on some preliminary research, these seem to be the best choices>generalPeter Bellwood, Spencer Wells, Tom Higham, Hermann Parzinger if you know German>EuropeThe Oxford Illustrated Prehistory of Europe, also Clive Gamble, Alasdair Whittle, Stephen Shennan and A. F. Harding
>>25401879Thanks
>>25360407The Habsburg Monarchy by Robin Okey
Where are my Cornbros? Anything else nearly as kino as ol Corny's take on the Arthurian legend?
>>25402552Waterloo is a great read
>>25304749Any of the Greenblatt books worth reading? I’d heard he takes a lot of liberties but had some interest in his Adam and Eve book.
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