>meanwhile this character drank a lot of beer and sang a song about whores! yukyukyuk! so wild!>meanwhile this character is doing something crazyyyyyyyyyyyy! woa!>meanwhile this guy is named Suckadick Fuckmyass! I named a character Suckadick Fuckmyass! yukyukyuk! so funni!>meanwhile here's another song about whores set to an obscure Gregorian hunting shanty! that's so esoteric!>meanwhile here's a long digression on nosejobs! woa! I bet you didn't think I knew all that!>meanwhile this character's drinking beer! you can't drink that much beer! but he can! WOA! so crazyyyyyyyy!>meanwhile they're hunting alligators in the NYC sewers! yes I said alligators! and they have names! yukyukyuk!>meanwhile there's a conspiracy or something! or maybe not! yukyukyuk!Do any of you actually enjoy this?
It's weird how Pig Bodine tries to rape a girl in this book and then he becomes Pynchon's goofy trademark cameo character for the rest of his career.
>>25312858V ranks as nobody's favorite Pynchon but it has some great chapters. She hangs on the western wall, Fausto's confessions, V. in love, Mondaugen's story. The frame story is where Pynch most clearly needed to improve, and by Gravity's Rainbow he's worked out all the kinks. What's your problem?
>>25312858the history sections of v. were great but yeah the ny chapters are half--baked as hell.>>25312867yeah pynchon in his slow learner introduction wrote about how much he loves him, truly a product of the time.
Im reading it right now for the first time and im enjoying it
>>25312936It's one of his 3, maybe 4 best novels, which is to say most of his novels are worse than it.
>>25312867People didn't take rape seriously before woke feminism took over
>>25312858It is the sort of book you won't get unless you know what "meanwhile" means. >>25312867Why is that weird? Pig (and his descendents) where never represented as "good" people, just human.
>>25313203It seems like a pretty honest and accurate description of Pinecone novels as someone who used to like him a lot in HS, he's enjoyable but very juvenile.
>>25313211At best it is a strawman but most likely OP is just another functionally literate retard missing the point. But go ahead, prove me wrong, demonstrate that you understood V. (Or any of his big novels) and did not just reduce it to your own poor comprehension.
>>25312858Are all Pynchon’s book like this? Is it at least readable unlike that piece of shit Gravity’s Rainbow?
>>25313295Don't you have a Gaddis thread to make?
>>25313211>honest and accuratelmao no it isn't
>>25313242You meant to say "functionally illiterate" didn't you, smart guy?
>>25312858what i did like about v. was the contrast between stencil and profane. stencil maybe trying to chase after some semblance of meaning throughout history and never receiving it (representing modernity?) and profane just reveling in chaos as some sort of postmodernist (i hate that i'm using that word). i also saw it as a pretty neat critique of materialism in the modern age and how it disconnects humans from essential things like faith, beauty, love. idk, mondaugen going to some inhumane colony for the purpose of resources, british explorers trying to use vhessiu not for its natural beauty but for its economic potential, victoria being objectified by men for her looks to the point where she's literally rendered to a clump of matter. all very interesting, tbf i only came away with this thinking on a reread and not when i initially read it as a retarded 17 year old
>>25313766>t. functionally literate and proud of it
>>25314279As opposed to what, unfunctionally literate?
>>25314298>being functional is good and being literate is good so being functionally literate must be twice as good!Functionally literate people are not literate, they can read and write well enough to be a functioning and productive member of society but can't properly parse even simple phrases like "functionally literate."
>>25314336It seems like you can't actually answer the question and just don't want to admit that you indeed meant to say "functionally illiterate" in the preceding post.
You sound like you need your head kicked in
>>25314424It'd be so Pynchonian if someone did that but his head actually rolled off them started talking about thermodynamics and entropy like with Byron the Bulb, and then someone shut him up with a PIE IN THE FACE yukukyuk
>>25314378It seems that way because you are functionally literate, which is the highest level of illiteracy. >illiterate >functionally illiterate>functionally literate>literateThese are well established catagories and why illiteracy rates seem ridiculously high even at the college level, most people are only functionally literate, which is illiterate. Some places like to put functional literacy as the lowest level of literacy instead of the highest level of illiteracy but that is mostly political, it looks better than the truth.
>>25314461kek you clearly meant to say "functionally illiterate" but made a typo, which would be excusable but funny, but the quadrupling down truly makes you look like a retarded faggot. it's very funny though, can we get the quintuple down
>>25314824nta. You are retarded.
>>25314461But that's actually not the case and "functional literacy" is more advanced than (mere) literacy by definition. You can go ahead and google that if you want so you either meant to say "functionally illiterate" and refuse to admit it, or you don't actually know what "functional" in "functional literacy" means, take your pick
>>25314868samefaggot kek
>>25312858Fariña was a better prose stylist without all of the lolSOrandom hijinx that makes Pynchon unbearable. The best parts of Tommy's writing are obvious replications of his late, great, and more talented friend.
>>25314903lol
>>25312858>>25312858There's retards who dribble in wheelchairs, and even they are far less retarded than you.Congrats on being such a great retard.
>>25315936DFW and Pynchtards are the most sensitive fags on this board by far
>>25315939*SQUEAK SQUEAK*What was that retard???? We can't hear you over the sound of your retard wheelchair
>>25312867A lot of countercultural men from the post war period were unironically pedophiles and rapists trying to justify their perversions as sexual liberation
>>25312858IMO Gravity's Rainbow is his only good work. It best encapsulates his feelings of technology, civilization, freedom and control. Everything else he wrote just feels like a worse version of that book
>>25315948What are you, 15
>>25316376>trying to justify their perversionsNeither were seen as perversions until after the jews labeled them as such in the post wwii era
>>25314903This is so true.
>>25312858Never read V but this in terms of general impression this is accurate to GR and so I believe it.
>not even one post about sferics>can you people even process signals jfc
