Is he worth reading?
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>>25313783> fat> long hair> gay> atheisticwithout neoreaction, would people have retvrned to orthodoxy sooner
>>25313783no
Fuck no. Read Xenosystems by Nick Land. He summarizea NRx in a few essays and has a bunch of bangers like Hell Baked that will make you cum.
>midwitcore but its le EDGE
>>25315119>fatHe lost a lot of weight and looks good for a guy in his 50s>long hairyeah it's called mogging >gayYarvin literally goes around impregnating 20 year old art hoes, he just married the last one> atheisticnah he's a secret Yahweh enjoyeryou can tell subnormal and possibly even seething loony troony hands typed this post, based Yarv, soliciting you fags to slander him in your free time (free because you don't get paid, not because you hypothetically might at some point have better things to do) and thus in fact raising him ever higher in the estimations of the discerning and consciousno doubt you will continue the process here, tomorrow, and forever until either you slip so far into irrelevance you wink out of existence itself, probably a mercy compared to the looking -ACKING that otherwise awaits all your kindconsider yourself pwnd
A psyop to make you support your own further enslavement under capital and alienated chuds swallow it hook, line and sinker. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.
>>25315291>midwitHe is literally apart of a longitudinal study studying high IQ youths and graduated high school at 15. He is at least 150 iq. >Throughout his childhood, he was sometimes homeschooled by his mother, and in his education skipped three grades.[11] In 1985, he entered Johns Hopkins's longitudinal Study of Mathematically Precocious Youth. In 1988, Yarvin graduated from Wilde Lake High School in Columbia, Maryland.[28]
>>25315317> longitudinal Study of Mathematically Precocious Youth
>>25315349Have you listened to any of the people on the hereditarian side of the IQ debate like Richard Haier? They take that study very seriously.
>>25315355Heritability is a populational statistic that changes based on the playing field.Heritability of I.Q. in Denmark is .85 but in Pakistan it's .4.Heritability does also not imply immutability. The heratibility of obesity in the US is .7 but it's 1.0 mutable.Nobody denies that I.Q. is heritable, but it's mutable.
>>25313783>Is he worth reading?He used to be novel and cool 2008-2012, as a blogger. Then for a couple of years later, other people reviewing his stuff were making good points too.After 2014, I'd say Moldbug's orbiters quickly turned to cancer. Today, he himself is cancer. Just a boomer unc repeating conservative mantras, coloring them in what he thinks is hip language. Think of your favorite punk band releasing a pop cover. Grandpa sold out.
>>25315294His move away from rational lolbertarian thinking and trying to compromise to achieve the most freedom while accepting some state, and towards catholic traditionalism and conservatism, is what made him lame.
>>25315355there never was an iq debate, except, between the moral intellectualism of socrates, and the concept expressed by jefferson that he who wont read is no better and worse than he who cant
>>25315361Is should elaborate that ofc it's not 1.0 mutable but still. Polygenic phenomena will always be tied to populations.
>>25315366>rational lolbertarian thinking and trying to compromise to achieve the most freedom while accepting some stateyeah that was interesting and while it was a bit unfortunate that he left out the role of the church (where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom) as long as its assumed everyone is Christian many of his questions and answers are still valid. but he didnt ignore religion, he preached against calvinism, and now there are no calvinists
>>25315260Nick Land is another punk rocker who turned radio friendly pop star. He's also a conservative boomer now.
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>>25315364>right wing is clearly taking over the west>NOOO YOU'RE MEANT TO BE AN IMPOTENT FRINGE FIGURE FOREVER>sell out! I do enjoy seeing how much Yarvin gets to people, it's hysterical to think lefties actually feel threatened by a middle aged blogger. This is a guy who went from making nazi fart jokes for a decade to facing a 24/7 debunking campaign by the mainstream media and its clingers on.
>>25315580>guy betrays his principles and becomes just a generic conservative>hehe u mad smug.jpgThis is why politics should be gatekept to the aristocracy and intellectual elite, and swine like you shouldn't be allowed to participate or discuss it.
>>25315589>betrays his principleshe's literally been saying the exact same thing for like 20 years, try again retard
>>25315589in what way has he "betrayed his principles"
>>25315597He was anti-politics before, he's for active participation in politics now.Half his earlier work is specifically about minding your own business and letting the king rule and not doing politics. Now he's campaigning for Trump and the Republican party.This is the big one. You'd be blind not have noticed it.Previously he was for corporation-style government, with a board of directors, a president, a CEO, with very clear powers and very clear responsibilities. Now he's just asking for generic strongman bonapartism, and isn't even pretending otherwise, he has embraced it.Previously he was for very small, very local polities, in constant competition with each other. He wrote a book about it: Patchwork. Now he's just a generic USA nationalist, and doesn't ever talk about breaking the USA. If anything, he talks about enlarging it, entirely in opposition with his own worldview from his blogger days.
>>25315594You literally have no idea what you are talking about, see >>25315615The entire Unqualified Reservations blog is against participating, now he's campaigning. That alone should convince you.
>>25315616>now he's campaigning.no he's notlol
>>25315615>Now he's campaigning for Trump and the Republican party.If you can provide 1 instance of this being true I'll go jump off my balcony right now
>>25315615he views Trump as an accelerating force to finally reach>corporation-style government, with a board of directors, a president, a CEO, with very clear powers and very clear responsibilitiesyou don't stay out of politics UNTIL that point is reachedI disagree with him (personally I think the West needs a dose of turbo-leftism so we can finally put that nonsense to bed) but I can see where he's coming from, Trump (more accurately those around him) is destroying The Cathedral in his own retarded way
>>25313783>>25315260They're both retarded slop artists.
>>25315624>I think that Trump... The funny thing is, I talked about FDR earlier in earlier in our conversation, and I think actually a lot of people in different directions might not appreciate this comparison. But I think that in a lot of ways, Trump is very reminiscent of FDR. Because what FDR had was this tremendous charisma and self-confidence combined with a tremendous ability to be the center of the room, be the leader, cut through the BS and make things happen. Curtis "FDR is my hero" Yarvin saying Trump is like FDR, more than once, should count. Do a barrel roll.
>>25315628But his Gray Mirror blogs aren't about how Trump is such an incompetent retard that he will destroy all trust in democracy. They are about how a mass movement can use democracy to establish absolite power, fire all the people the enemy faction hired, and make sure all elections end in favor of the new party.He is now talking about using mass movements to gain and hold power, where previously he specifically spoke against that and at length how that's the worst thing to ever happen to western society.Old Moldbug told you the French Revolution was armaggedon. New Moldbug is writing guides on how to do a french revolution, but for fat retards.
>>25315294Is that his old wife who is currently burning in hell or his new wife who didn't take his last name because his pederast master Peter Thiel doesn't allow it? His first wife also didn't take his name for this reason but out of respect for the dead I did not mention it.
>>25315119You neglected the most relevant trait. >>25315294>>25315317>t.
>>25313783I don’t need ten thousand page books to know “vote republican.”
>>25315637>FDR breathed oxygen and ate food>so does Trump>hurr durr their identicalNot even remotely close, and in context it's even more distant. Yarvin constantly points out Trump is a powerless buffoon who does more harm than good, you sound genuinely deranged to insist he's some kind of shill. I guess it's projection huh?
The more I read about this ideology the more I feel there is no point being a member of this movement if you are not not a billionaire.
>>25315703there is no "movement"
>>25315317his fans are still diaper-wearing tykes that can't use the word literally correctly. sad!
>>25315642>Old Moldbug told you the French Revolution was armaggedon. New Moldbug is writing guides on how to do a french revolutionin 2012 the 2008 crash was understood to have been caused by diet zero at civil rights enforcement demanding that minorities get their quota of subprime mortgages and the french revolution sounded excessive for that level of mismanagement and abuse. however, that was a lack of vision, there was no path from 2012 to anywhere but here, therefore, the french revolution was as justified then as now. but what was missing from discussions in 2012, what falsified moldbug, was epstein. the cathedral had a bishop, epstein
The most valuable takeaway from the heyday of his UR blog is that America is ruled by a loose confederation of patronage networks that are guided by self-interest and a vague progressive worldview rather than by any real leadership or coherent vision. If you grasp that concept then there is no reason to waste time reading his posts, which are way too long and meandering.
>>25315260>He summarizea NRxNo. He Nick Land, like all people who think Marx should be taken seriously at all, is a brain damaged retard who realized, when Yarvin started writing again, that Yarvin is actually nothing like he envisioned, being a techno-pessimist neoluddite who hates automation and appeals to things like spiritual rigor and moral character since, you know, the guy is a massive Carlyle fan.Let's be very clear here: Land is a retarded failed academic with brainworms while Yarvin is a guy who thinks that we should destriy the plastic toy industry via trade wars.
He makes the most annoying pseuds on /lit/(I recognize your writing styles) very very assmad and prone to wild invection which by itself makes him based.
>>25315967everyone already believed that, moldbugs point was that progressivism and communism are secular calvinism, and, the anglo-soviet split happened because the western progressives saw the soviet union as betraying communism. the primary criticism of moldbug was to replace calvinism with judaism, which raised the question of whether calvinism was theologically a judaizing heresy. moldbug never addressed that question, since he was and still is in the baby drinking milk stage of understanding Scripture. the difference between judaizing and hellenizing heresies is whether they make Christ a stumbling block or foolishness.in a secular history book, yarvin gets one sentence: epsteins philosopher yarvin argued that the rich ought to rule directly. this will be next to a big picture of a pride float from a big bank. in a religious history book, yarvin gets pointed to as immediately precipitating the collapse of calvinism and consequent unity of evangelical churches
>>25316000you will never be smart and you will never belong here
>>25315967The Trump regime acted on the NRx idea that progressivism in America only existed because of NGO and media complexes, they dismantled them and there hasn't been any cultural retvrn to tradition. In fact the average lib has been further radicalized to the left.>>25316001Do Moldbugites not already understand themselves to be calvinists? I thought it was obvious they were. Liberal progressivism is secularized puritanism and leftism is secularized anabaptism.
>>25315667lame
Pretty much every statement about history I've seen from Yarvin has been astoundingly illiterate and his ideology is thoroughly Hebraic and not Reactionary in any sense. Monarchy without faith and aristocracy is just Stalinism. With that said he has popularized Right-wing ideas so good for him even if they are some of the dumbest rw ideas imaginable.
>>25316088Could be worse. Hans-Hermann Hoppe opens his Democracy: The God that Failed, by claiming that WWI was a war fought between republics on one side and monarchies on the other, and that the good guy monarchies lost to the evil republics like Russia.History standards for libertarians are low.
>>25316020So you're saying it's an NRx idea that if you de-fund USAID for one year then decades of leftist propaganda and organization will be collapse overnight? Where was that written?
>>25316101Stop embarrassing yourself anon.
>>25315967what i saw in the moldbug essays was a man who recognized that pua rhymes with gay, boldly suggested that reactionaries should get married and have children, which had previously been considered the default state of adult men, and saw the theology behind the progressive cant and whig history. however, he wasnt able to shake the invertebrate atheism he was raised with, because he would be fat, long haired, and so on, but never so silly as to think that aristotle and aquinas had a point, nor dip a toe into the debate over cartesianism, or splash a papist over their statue kneeling, papists and orthobros being much of his readership. indeed, the moldbug essays may have forestalled a movement of calvinism within papism.at the same time, the moldbug essays replaced the pua quest for slutty pussy with a secular pursuit of a tradwife and tradkids without becoming the Christian who stands between the tradwife and God. the irony of the moldbug essays was that the practical advice of the moldbug essays made no sense except to advise Christians to be more Christian.the readers who didnt have the privileged background of having read basils letter to young men stayed fat and long haired
>>25316446Tradlarpers are a plague on this board.
>>25316020Do you think anyone expected these changes overnight?Do you think anyone expected libs to change their minds?>>25316109Counter his point worm
You are part of the Froude Society, right?
>>25316617Kek tha takes me back. He should redo something like this though
>>25313783Just watch "Charlemagne" on youtube's summaries of his ideas
>>25316101>>25316527We've negotiated 'total cultural hegemony' down to 'uhh he cant do it overnight chud'. Note that this is how Biden dead-enders coped with him abandoning his campaign promises for Israel and the Ukraine.
>>25317465Well, if the goal was total cultural hegemony, then I would imagine everyone needs to do their work.
>>25317465No one at any point thinks that there will be a right wing "total cultural hegemony" and nor was that ever the goalThat aside the world is significantly more right wing than it was 5 years ago, do you think you'll be doing this weird crypto-gloating in another 5?
>>25317558>do you think you'll be doing this weird crypto-gloating in another 5?Yes. Trump has killed you people. The right will never be taken seriously again.
