Status update on liberal democracy and the end of history
>>25316529An inherently flawed, now culturally and ideologically obsolete Universalism
>>25316529I can’t even count the number of reasons why liberalism is NGMI in the long term >most obviously, AI and transhumanism will render equality a foolish ideal >the global decline in fertility will lead to a massive civilizational rupture with many conflicts and new waves of mass immigration>liberal democracies are blatantly controlled by oligarchs with no democratic input and it’s increasingly hard to conceal this >deteriorating relations between men and women will lead to an excess of angry alienated young men and women losing their fake jobs, another dagger to the idea of equality >the right wing is settling on the idea of ethnically cleansing the West and this will become inevitable once the 3rd world gets blackpilled amid falling fertility and Westernization via the internet, attempting to pour into the West even more Liberalism creates nihilism by design. Fukuyama thinks that this nihilism will satisfy people since they can seek individual pleasure and recognition in a complacent mass consumer society. In reality it will just produce a fuckload of problems that’ll bring the American empire down (already happening with Trump which Fukuyama acknowledges) and require liberalism to become more illiberal in nature to handle its own contradictions. This is what’s happening in the West, every faction is still coping and convincing themselves that liberal democracy can work out with enough tinkering, unwilling to admit that liberalism is the cause of everything they’re upset about. Eventually people will throw off the yoke of liberalism entirely when it becomes undeniable it cannot solve anything.
>>25317035Liberalism has become a hard drug that the world can’t stop using. This drug makes us weak and feeble and unable to deal with the walls closing in on us as everything around us deteriorates, yet we just keep taking hits of it because we love the idea of McDonald’s in every country and PornHub on everyone’s phone screens and brown people waving American flags. With drool falling from our mouths and limping like zombies we hardly muster the energy to mumble “freedom” and “equality” as we inject this drug more and more, trapping us in this rotting household we refuse to step outside of.
Trump and the decline of America has vindicated Francis fukuyama and the end of the history.It has proven that the moment a liberal democracy moves away from its liberal democratic ways it will rapidly become weaker. We now have direct proof that liberal democracies strengthen societies by having a counterfactual example of the US being rapidly weakened under Trump whenever it tries to move away from it.We also have proof of Ukraine being strengthened by moving towards liberal democracy while Russia being so weakened by its inefficient autocratic rule that they are losing in Ukraine. Despite Russia having been considered the 2nd best military in the world compared to the weakest poorest European country. Literally the difference in their systems (liberal democratic vs authoritarian) was enough to tip the scale in favor of Ukraine.We now know that countries become strong when they embrace liberal democracies. And decline when they move away from liberal democracy.I believe we will see a golden age of liberal democracy in the future because China and Russia will be forced to embrace liberal democracies if they want to have any chance to compete with the west. Western nations will also look at the failure of the UK under farage, Hungary under orban, US under Trump and Brazil under bolsonaro. And conclude they need to go all-in on liberal democracy forever.
>>25317126this would unironically work on reddit
liberalism is a good meme, the idea that all people are equal and have the same rights etc, but capitalism is the final boss that allows it to happen, in this sense, we should not be worrying about liberalism not working or disappearing in that sense when it's just a byproduct of something more important that few people on this board want to honestly talk about, america or the west is not going to slip back into a feudal society, not while capital flows so easily to where it's needed, you can think about liberalism as a commodity whose need will always be satiated if capital is available
>>25317139liberalism requires capitalism but capitalism doesn't require liberalism
>>25317158yes, that's what i said, liberalism is a luxury commodity priced very highly in the west, but poorly in places like china, both places have capitalism but only one places is willing to buy the commodity or a version of said commodity, it may change in the future though
>>25316529>socialism ought to come back>I don't mean government ownership of the means of production I mean redistribution of wealth>most don't read to the end of [my] bookYou started with an ought so quit complaining. Redistribution doesn't change Marx's definitions for overproduction. You apparently are now a tuber so I can only speculate you will encourage people to watch to the end of the video.>fragment: move to Thailand.
>>25316529cool
Bump
>>25317035>the right wing is settling on the idea of ethnically cleansing the WestVery based
>>25316529how can he even see with those
>>25316543Never understood the attraction to Dugin. I fell for the meme years ago but then realized his entire philosophy just boils down to "kill Anglo-Saxons on sight". Very brown mentality.
>>25317126>Ukraine being strengthened by moving towards liberal democracyZelensky's term ended in 2024 and they aren't likely to have elections as long as they can use the war as an excuse to postpone. War however, didn't stop us from holding elections in Iraq or Afghanistan during the occupations. fwiw I'm not a zigger, just think it's also hilariously convenient that a lot of "opposition" politicians have been labeled "pro-Russian" and disallowed from running.Double hilarious that whenever the war does end, Ukraine is going to be flooded with africans and middle easterners to "rebuild." So you've got a never ending war with hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians being killed and wounded to defend their country just to watch it get filled with foreigners.
>>25318467see>>25317184>>25317826Russians are eternally ass sore that they developed much later and less successfully than the other European countries. Pre-WWI they were the shittiest of the major powers by far and only became a global (super)power under a one-party dictatorship that killed millions of its own citizens and oppressed the hell out of them to do it makes them seethe. Look at the aftermath of the dissolution of the USSR, they went from #2 to complete third world, ass backwards shithole without the party's boot on their necks.
>>25318477One of those wars where neither side can really win. It is striking however that Russia's people are still okay with the beating they take from the state. I wonder if liberal societies are going to go down the same path of being raped by their country and respond with total apathy and indifference. It's kind of happening right now with how muted everyone is towards Trump 2.0 and Iran despite these things being so much worse than anything we were dealing with 10 years ago
>>25316529histories die every day. it's no big deal.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds&ra=m
>>25317133I don't like Dugin but what he said sounds worse.
>>25318477A liberal democracy is way more than holding elections. You can still move towards a liberal democracy even if elections are suspended, this sounds like a reach or contradiction but it's really not. Liberal democracy is about the rule of law, holding official accountable for their actions, protecting and expanding the individual freedom and rights of the population, curtailing corruption, preventing media consolidation and allowing free speech in media (within reason as long as the speech isn't calling for the curtailing of liberal democracy itself or suggesting treason to hostile nations)Of you look at Ukraine in 2014 vs 2026 then Ukraine now is significantly more liberal democratic than it used to be. It went from one of the most corrupt places on the planet to being brought in line with more "mediocre corruption" like Bulgaria or Romania. There is a massive push towards individual freedom like gay rights, freedom of religion, association and other Staples of a liberal society. The judiciary has been reformed to protect private enterprise from the government in an independent manner. There have been checks and balances applied to the state and the power of the presidency is now properly checked by parliament. The Ukrainian constitution now also protects minority rights, including those of Russian speaking Ukrainians, despite what Russian BS media is saying.From an outside perspective Ukraine is speedrunning towards liberal democracy like there is no tomorrow. I'd even go as far as to claim that Ukraine probably is now the most "liberal democratic" of all nations in its direct neighborhood. More than Russia, Georgia, Hungary, Turkey, Belarus, and yes, even Slovakia. The exception being Poland which is slightly more liberally democratic.There is no indication at all that there won't be a push for elections in Ukraine either after the war, or in a frozen conflict situation. Considering that Ukraine is now for the first time since 2023 winning again I don't think elections will be held this year.
>>25318424It will never happen, Europe being conquered by Muslims is more likely (that said the chances of that happening are also low, but at least not zero)
>>25319015>Muslims in europeMosques are literally closing all over Europe as the third generation Muslim migrants slowly lose their religion.
>>25319015It's not likely. Islam will be inevitably hollowed out by capitalism.
>>25319259>>25319287based
anyone hoping for cataclysmic violence is coping against the brick they’ve been alotted in the completed masonic period. orwell’s boot stepping on the face forever is here. some get to wear the boot.
>>25320569pyramid** curious typo though
