Is This a New Trend or Something?… Everyone and Their Dog is Writing About Archmages, It’s F**king Ridiculous EditionStubbed >>25313012>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>Advice for Noobs!##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##Running your story like the business it is:www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847On writing web serials:alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY Recommended web novelsrentry.co/d2yvczroAnon's guide to successrentry.co/RRBasicGuideFAQrentry.co/pytefpxn
>>25316683>Is This a New Trend or Something?… Everyone and Their Dog is Writing About Archmages, It’s F**king Ridiculousgive me a qrd on the winnie/light novel with this title
I wrote about an archmage before it was popular and most of the people he interacts with don't even know he's an archmage. He's just a Minister of Finances.
>>25316690You're living it
>>25316683>Is This a New Trend or Something?… Everyone and Their Dog is Writing About Archmages, It’s F**king Ridiculous EditionI haven't been writing on meta. It is becoming apparent that writing off-meta is the new meta.If you anyone cares, my books are set in a world of sky pirates who have magic gemstones that turn into creatures.Think of it like Skies of Arcadia x Pokemon.https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/93079/keygemin-sky-pirates-w-magic
>>25316706uh oh, you already posted it last thread
I have gone back to reading A World Worth Protecting. I am at the part where Wang Baole and the Federation Seedlings have gone to the Vast Expanse Dao fag's camp on the Ancient Sword and they're going through the trial where you have to collect keys to not get teleported out.
>>25316369I mean I guess? But if that's considered a part of the "harem" genre, the term has become so many degrees away from its original definition
>>25316718>By the year 3029 CE, Earth's technology has developed rapidly, borders no longer exist, and Earth has been unified, marking the beginning of the era of the Federation. Dam Er Gen is woke too? I thought chinks were based?
>>25316722The private family quarters of an Islamic estate?
>>25316706are people talking about the weird denoising/rippling from chatgpt gens yet? it is 'technically' fine, but the details are arranged in like a rippling pattern. YOU SEE IT RIGHT?wahtever
>>25316730yup
>>25316728The entire world is China basically.
>>25316750I know, It was a shitpost
is RR not finally over chinashit yet? is it at least getting there?
>>25316775https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn6GbXZCt-o
How long do we reckon until AI can write full length web novels without running into inconsistencies? It works really well for smut short stories, I've basically replaced Literotica/ao3 with it because I can just cater short stories to my fetishes without having to waste a bunch of time searching for shit, can't wait to do the same thing for web novels and get rid of the middleman author between me and progression fantasy dopamine
>>25316800>How long do we reckon until AI can write full length web novels without running into inconsistencies?Shit eating slop devourers like you will be fine with anything, so literally right now.
>>25316683>Everyone and Their Dog is Writing About Archmages, It’s F**king Ridiculous EditionI'm not...
>>25316800Probably once that new nvidia spark chip rolls out. So that's 4k UDS + Ram costs
>>25316800never
>>25316800Oh my fucking god.
I'm making royal road ads now. It's tricky, but I think my ideas are hilarious.
>>25316816Don't reveal this if you don't want to get depressedVector/RAG with state-tracking and post-chapter parsing
any fun HFA?
>>25316800>How long do we reckon until AI can write full length web novels without running into inconsistencies?The problem with LLMs is they don't really understand context and they're black boxes, so you can't actually manually define attributes to be associated with particular words. Also, even if you could manually define attributes you would still run into issues of the models not being able to understand exclusivity or time dependence or a host of other shit. Also there will always be shit you didn't define. To ensure complete consistency you'd more or less have to feed an already completed work into the model. You wouldn't be saving any time.Maybe someday in the future we'll get AI that functionally have "imaginations" and actively construct simulated sights/textures/sounds to anchor their thoughts so they can describe a consistent world, but if we do, I somehow doubt that shit will be affordable enough for hacks to use to write with. Also, that shit's not an LLM.
>>25316722>But if that's considered a part of the "harem" genreHe's planning to marry all of them because reasons and also they are literally all high ranking public officials, heirs to high ranking public officials, and/or lords of hell with the exception of one of them who is a sister to a high ranking public official and also a bioweapon. Also one of them is a relatively cloistered Empress, so it's actually not at all off base as far as the meaning of harem either in an original sense, a literally sense, or in common usage.He's pursued by multiple love interests. He plans to form a harem. And his family will function as an imperial harem. Check, check, and check.
>>25316870And this deviates from power fantasy how, exactly?
>>25316885There's nothing desirable about being a haremcuck so it's kind of an anti-power anti-fantasy imo
>>25316896what is a haremcuck?
>>25316706>>25316741Yes, I went through a lot of effort to try to remove it with Manus.
Thinking about running a ad for my story here on lit. Which one should I do? 728x90? 300x250? Already started an ad on RR but its only been 2 days since it went alive so no results just yet. Not sure if anyone actually ran one here, though, only seen that Substack Heaven one, and the infamous Curse of the Croc guy from /wg/ whenever I'm browising on my phone. Would probably need to draw one from the ground up in either case (my RR one is a 300x250 one, though I could just reuse it).
>>25316921Also generated this neat video of what "setting", the process of using a gem to summon a creature, looks like.
>>25316925that's actually sick; was that seedance, grok imagine?>>25316921speaking of grok imagine, i'd recommend giving it a shot, at least for future reference. i think it has more styles baked in, and it's basically just as good for single imagesyou can still typeset/whatever w/ chatgpt after the fact
>>25316896Having the power to pull it off feels pretty fantastical to me. The wish fulfillment comes with struggle, sure, but it doesn't sound like the main character has to actually change any of his beliefs to do it
>>25316943the guy you're replying to is an uneducated retard with misguided ideological hangups. we have 5000+ years of recorded history in which kings had harems. in what fucking world is that not a power fantasy?
>>25316945no he's just mentally ill
The harem Chad is the biggest cope of all time.Genghis: ultimate oneitis wreck. Merkits steal his wife, cuck him on day one, and he spends forty years genociding continents just to prove no one will ever touch his property again in a fit of incel rage. Distributes rape-spoils to his bros like pokemon cards while seething inside.Chinese emperors: blow the treasury on 3000-teen stables, rank them like collectibles, then hand the keys to eunuchs who had their dicks and balls hacked off so they're "safe." Those dickless goblins end up with private armies, death lists, and the emperor hiding in the workshop whittling toys while Wei Zhongxian runs the country.Ottomans: stop marrying, breed with random slave girls, lock princes in gilded cages, strangle every competent brother. After 200 years of fratricide the throne goes to whichever alcoholic invalid was too pathetic to kill. Real power? The Chief Black Eunuch—six-foot Sudanese who decides which woman gets the royal seed that night and which sultana gets to rule the empire through her drooling son.Every empire that went full harem maxxer ended the exact same way: the impotent "alpha" drowning in untouched pussy he can't control, while balless freaks in silk robes hold the leash, count the gold, and pick which prince gets garroted at breakfast.Harem game isn't gigachad.It's suicide-by-simp, run by the only men in the palace guaranteed to never get hard.
>>25316949this is an argument for 'too much of a good thing', and/or that 'all good things come to an end'listing some of the greatest and longest standing civilizations as failures (on account of any one thing) is questionablewhy not just be honest with what you don't like about them rather than grasping
>>25316953HAREMS ARE BASED SAAR JUST LIKE THE AL-ZUTT VERY BASED AND TRAD
>>25316949I think it goes without saying that polyamory, much like communism, doesn't work. Being forced to share resources and not being able to truly own anything has only ever built resentment
>>25316957There's no such thing as "polyamory" there's only men being taken advantage of by women through dick.
>>25316955>NOOOOOOOOOOOO SIR PLEASE LEAVE SOME BOBES FOR ME
>>25316953A good person isn't solely made up of good components, much like how a good state isn't solely made up of good components. I don't think anyone's trying to argue those empires lasted that long thanks to harems. In fact, harems often led to complacency in Sultans
>>25316955>meltywhat are you afraid of facing here?
is this the anti-femc guy again?
>>25316962i believe you misread my reply/the exchange
>>25316968I don't think harems are a good thing to begin with
Harems are the hallmark of any garbage story.
>>25316973Well, they're the hallmark of garbage characters. A good story could be about "wow look how pathetic these people are."
>>25316971what do you mean by 'good' anyway? most of these power fantasies aren't exactly ethical>>25316973that's besides the point
>>25316973I'm looking forward to the day that I publish my story and you call it garbage, anon. I'm counting on you
>>25316885>And this deviates from power fantasy how, exactly?He's constantly in mortal danger, orders of magnitude weaker than the people around him, has to act like a shitbag while balancing the emotions of a bunch of nuclear warheads, he has no free time and a completely fucked sleep schedule due to constantly having to prepare for the next disaster, he regularly gets maimed and/or killed, and if he fucks any of the hot women constantly throwing themselves at him, the rest will literally kill him and then massacre the surrounding continent/planet. Dude can't even fap because he has multiple roommates and stalkers watching him at any given moment.Explain what part of that you fantasize about going through? Power fantasies are about control. This dude has none. His life is a never ending sequence of firefighting.
>>25316978picrel
>>25316943>the main character has to actually change any of his beliefs to do itThe main character literally tried to fucking kill himself during the amnesia arc because he hates how he's had to act so much.
>>25316980>>25316983why does he even need to do any of this
>>25316985doesn't
>>25316980>Explain what part of that you fantasize about going through?im leaking just reading the premisegod i want to be trampled on so badly
>>25316980why haremcuck stories and not futachad stories
>>25316985>why does he even need to do any of thisEvery so often people in the world he has isekai'd into have a magical constitution where they draw the attention of people with "evil" constitutions with the strength of the attraction determined by the level of evil. "Evil" for the purposes of this constitution means number of people killed or connectedness to demons, not necessarily morality. The big wigs of this world know about the existence of his constitution and are using him to seduce women possessed by demons (in this setting demons are basically dark gods that have been half-killed and have fragments of their power floating around possessing shit) because if someone possessed by a demon and their demon fall in love and die happily, that demon won't be able to fully manifest anymore (fully manifesting requiring all a demon's fragments to gather), which reduces a potential world ending threat to a potential continent ending one for the rest of time and "fortunately" all known demons have at least one fragment in women currently. Also even if he wasn't being used, he's basically a giant magnet for evil beings, which is why people with his constitution usually die horribly.This is on top of and somehow completely unrelated to the fact he has isekai'd into a mob character in an alternate version of a game he no life'd. An alternate version that has gone completely off the rails from the best possible ending in part due to him having his constitution. Which means even if he ran and hid, setting aside the fact that evil beings are supernaturally drawn to him, he would inevitably get caught up in one of the numerous possible bad endings the story is heading towards, all of which are apocalyptic.tl;dr If he doesn't, best case scenario he gets tracked down and murdered before the continent and/or planet erupts in hellfire or gets invaded by cosmic horrors.
>>25316990>god i want to be trampled on so badlyJoke's on you, he's surrounded by yandere *masochists*
>>25317002if we're talking stories, futa doesn't really translate to the page. it's typically a visual fetish/aestheticof course WNs abuse tropes/intermediality, but that's still a referenced aesthetic
>>25317008>Reluctant chosen one has to seduce attractive, destructive women or be tortured/diePeople seek out toxic women all the time without any need for external threat, anon. They don't even need to be chosen, either. It's warped power, but an innate attraction to sexy demon-possessed women is something a lot of guys would be into. And I think the fantasy part speaks for itself. The only real deviation is that the protagonist isn't into it, but enthusiasm isn't particularly necessary for the genre
>>25316683I want to up my attention span, it's fucked by the internet.Give me the best light novels / web novels, anything that has a bunch of volumes that I can build some muscle around reading. Better if works are completed. Thanks.
>>25317029This caught my attention the most on Royal Road. Don't expect many of these on that site, though. It's a rare gem.
>>25317022I didn't say it's not a fantasy. I said it's not a power fantasy.
>>25317036i mentioned the power people would fantasize
>>25317031Dropped a 1 star, going to make a new account and do it again every time you shill this
>>25317039if I shilled my story instead would you give it a 5 star on each of your new accounts?
>>25317039not even mine, lol.>asks for a webnovel recommendation>gets webnovel recommendation>NOOOOOOO NOT A RECOMMENDATIONAnd I know you didn't even rate it because you'd be aware it's too popular and old for that to ever matter. You're such a spiteful waste of time
>>25317031>362 Pages>49 Chapters uhm... how about no?
>>25317046Care to explain why?
>>25317038>i mentioned the power people would fantasizeHis constitution isn't to attract sexy women. It's to attract mass murderers and the fragments of dark gods some of which happen to be in sexy women. Also, it just causes them to obsess over him, not necessarily *like* him. The power influences attention, not emotion. And it's not something he can control or turn off. Literally nobody would fucking want this shit. He doesn't want this shit. He's a walking serial killer magnet complete with virginity.The power in power fantasy doesn't fucking mean fucking "superpower". You're fucking equivocating. This is like saying that Marvel comic about the mutant that can explode... once... fatally... is a fucking power fantasy.>Noun>power fantasy (plural power fantasies)>(narratology) A story where a character experiences great levels of power, control, or influence, intended as an escapistic vehicle for the audience or author.
>>25317052All of that sounds like a positive to me.
>>25317050362 pages is waaaaaaaaay to little, it's like going to mcd and ordering 3 nuggies.
>>25317055>All of that sounds like a positive to me.You sound like an electrical engineer.
>>25316985he simply HAS to have sex with the stupid sexy demon ladies, you wouldn't get itit's such a heavy burden to bear and he hates it so the reader feels compelled to share the load
>>25317056Fair enough
>>25317052>which happen to be in sexy womenpurely coincidence, I'm sure. You must imagine that the typical reader of this, who has little to no contact with any women of any level of attraction, that can be just as (if not more) masochistic than the possessed women in the story. Honestly, if the women weren't so attractive, there'd be a must stronger counterargument, but the author is well aware of the fan service he's delivering.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/randomReview the first chapter of the fiction you land on
>>25317056Try Revenge of the Slop King if you want something longer.
>>25317092ok, I'll read that later today
>>25317056my story has 1077 pages. However, all of them are bad. You can read it if you want.
>>25317099post it and i will read every single word
>>25316932It was LumaGrok I find better for realistic images, it's not very good with the fantasy stuff, so far as I've seen.
>>25317101https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/63818/the-crow-and-the-rabbit
>>25317056What's your threshold for starting to read a fiction?
>>25317104identifier-anon, I kneel