Kind of surprising but in the book, The State and Revolution, Lenin, an atheist himself, is extremely critical of other socialists when it comes to how much they oppose religion>It is well-known that the German Social-Democrats, as they degenerated and became increasingly opportunist, slipped more and more frequently into the philistine misinterpretation of the celebrated formula: "Religion is to be declared a private matter." That is, the formula was twisted to mean that religion was a private matter even for the party of the revolutionary proletariat!! It was against this complete betrayal of the revolutionary programme of the proletariat that Engels vigorously protested. He goes on to argue that religion only functions as an opium of the people when the ruling class has control of it, because in their hands they always make it an ideological apparatus to support their rule, and said this ruling religion can take any form, any socialists who obsess over their party being not religious frequently completely overlook and become uncritical of the ruling class ideology drilled into the people which is always the true opium no matter what form it takes>Engels deliberately emphasized the words "in relation to the state" as a straight thrust at at German opportunism, which had declared religion to be a private matter in relation to the party, thus degrading the party of the revolutionary proletariat to the level of the most vulgar "free-thinking" philistinism, which is prepared to allow a non-denominational [not religious affiliation] status, but which renounces the party struggle against the opium of religion which stupifies the people.
>>25318249He would have changed his mind after seeing how Islamists have completely annihilated communists whenever the two have clashed (see Indonesia, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iran, etc.).
>>25318265Muslims in Afghanistan were supported by communist China who considered the war imperialist
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>>25318292What too much Heineken does to a mf
>>25318249Your reading of Lenins quote seemed a bit fishy to me. I asked Gemini and it said you were full of shit>Summary>The poster wants Lenin to be saying: "Stop obsessing over atheism; focus on the bigger picture of ruling class brainwashing.">But Lenin is actually saying: "Stop being lazy and letting your party members be religious under the guise of 'private matter' We are revolutionaries, and we need to actively fight religious ideas because they rot the workers' brains.">You couldn't follow the poster's logic because the poster read the text backward!
>>25318386>I asked a self-validating AI programmed to agree with me because my reading level is below 8th grade
>>25318416I asked it to explain OPs interpretation to me and I was genuinely surprised when it said that his interpretation was wrong.To double-check, I asked Claude and it came to the same conclusion
>>25318423I just asked AI and it says you're lying
>>25318386Why would you even bother with this when it is historically documented that Lenin welcomed religious workers into the Bolsheviks and their inners circle when most other socialist parties would not and made renouncing religion as part of their platform?
>>25318429I was trying to understand OPs interpretation of the quore and in the process, I discovered that he was wrong. So I wanted to share my discovery with all of you
>>25318436ESL moment....
>>25318441you are criticising me using AI, calling me dishonest, criticising me not being native english speaker, yet you keep ignoring the glaring flaw in OPs interpreation.If you are a fellow seeker of truth, your behaviour is most puzzling to me
>>25318449Esl moment...
>>25318386>AI is smarter than /lit/fagsThis is what happens when you only pretend to read books. This board is a total dumpster.
>>25318386Grok says you're wrong it also spit out a sick image of you getting raped by BBC at gunpoint which wasn't part of the prompt but nonetheless appreciated.
