I DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO USE A FUCKING COMMA, OR NOT! FUUUUCCCKK, why do we fucking need punctuation nobody speaks with the same punctuation rules that they write with, lol.
>>25320645Then don’t acknowledge any formal rules and write whatever it is you think communicates whatever it is you are hoping the writing communicates. It’s not rocket surgery.
>>25320647You can do that? Isnt that like bad writing tho lol.
>>25320645This isn't the 5th grade homework help board, tard
>>25320645why doesn't it say FUCK MY NIGGER LIFE? that's what makes the disintegrating squirrel funny. you imagine him saying that as he got thanos snapped.
>>25320668Not at all. Read Hemingway
>>25320668uh, you can, but it doesnt make bad writing suddenly good. commas are fucking simple. go read some basic grammar rules.
>>25320645>I DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO USE A FUCKING COMMA, OR NOT!Not there, you fucking retard.
>>25320668I suspect your writing will be bad for other reasons
>>25320668The reason we have grammar isn't because god or the universe demanded it, it's just that having common rules makes it easier to communicate and understand one another.But if you can communicate and get someone to understand without following a rule then it doesn't matter.Generally speaking fiction is depicting either thought or speech, and neither of those require a strict set of rules.
>>25320763Don't use a comma before "and".
>>25320645don't worry, the readers don't either. Just go with vibes and aim to make the text easier to understand, that's what they're for anyway
>>25320795Actually, the comma before "and" there is appropriate because it precedes a new subject ("neither of those")
>>25320729To be fair, there is a difference between intentionally ignoring those rules, like Hemingway does for artistic reasons, and not knowing them at all.
>>25320938thats not a new fucking subject you dumb fucking moron. its the exact same subjects, you daft bitch cunt mother fucker. the negativity doesnt change that. just make a new fucking sentence.
>>25321047Not him, but "And" can both refer to the new subject and continue further developing the already established subject. It depends on the context.
>>25321056its a very problematic sentence. Generally speaking, fiction isnt just thought or speech. it can be cinematic descriptions which are neither thought nor speech. anon is guilty of misrepresenting fiction.
>>25321047Subject, in this case, refers to a word or phrase. Even if two clauses are about the exact same thing with the exact same language, if they have separate words or phrases working as subjects, they are independent clauses, and a comma would precede an and joining them. You know, since the duplicated subject would mean the clauses can function independently.As an example>You are stupid, and you are ugly.>You are stupid and are ugly.I should, however, mention that implicit subjects can create cases where a comma before a conjunction becomes optional.As an example>(You) Fuck off and die!>(You) Fuck off, and (you) die!Both of these are technically correct stylistically.
>>25321067dropped after pedantic pretending we dont know what a subject is.Fuck off. AND DIE.
grammar fags are such cock suckers
>>25321083,Die,,
>>25320938>precedes a new subjectNo it doesn't, retard.
>>25321067>they are independent clausesAn independent clause stands on its own, moron. >Generally speaking fiction is depicting either thought or speech, and neither of those require a strict set of rules.Generally speaking fiction depicts either thought or speech and neither of these require a strict set of rules.*Still a dumb sentence but at least it isn't poorly written now.
Generally speaking/{fiction depicts either (thought or speech)} ^and^ (neither of these) ^require^ {a strict set of rules}.
>>25321115Generally speaking,cunt
>>25320668we just had a thread today on why english is the language of the devil race.
>>25320645>why do we fucking need punctuation nobody speaks with the same punctuation rules that they write with, lol.Punctuation and grammar are designed to make communicative experiences clear and understandable. The "rules" you were taught in school ultimately have no authority on their own; they're little more than guidelines based on someone's opinion. All you need to worry about is how you communicate your ideas. If you can do that without a semicolon or whatever, then don't worry worry about it.
>>25321147>Generally speaking,That comma is optional unless you weren't correcting and intended to sign your post.
>all the midwits ITT parroting "break the rules" as if they're le masters of using commasLOL
>>25320645Corncob is more famous than anyone who will ever post on this site, so you kinda have to figure out your own style yourself. I know, it's all such bullshit.
>>25321375"You don't need to master this rule to write well.""LOL you haven't even LE MASTERED the rule yourself!!""Yes, correct."Ok, so what's next?
>>25321115>An independent clause stands on its own, moron.>Generally speaking fiction is depicting either thought or speech. Neither of those require a strict set of rules.Not really seeing the issue here. Unless you think "stands on its own" means a noun in a clause can't refer back to a previous noun in another clause for its identity, to which I respond "he", "she", and "it". Also, you're a dumbass.
>>25321840>Not really seeing the issue hereThat's because you suck at writing.
>>25320645because writing isn’t exactly the same as speech,
>>25321901Is or is not>Neither of those require a strict set of rules.a complete sentence?
>>25322081Poorly written and fragmented.
>>25321354optional,cunt face
>>25322215>fragmentedOh, I'm sorry, but that's incorrect. Let's make it easier for you>Neither require a set.Is that a complete sentence?
>>25320795>>25320938>>25321047>>25321056>>25321067None of this fucking matters. I like the comma there because I think the sentence reads better with the pause. If you argue gay little technical rules when it comes to writing you are guaranteed a terrible fucking writer who should have their hands sawed off so they can never waste our time again with their pointless drivel.
>>25322282>Oh, I'm sorry, but that's incorrectNaw, it's fragmented. Poorly written sentence and the comma punctuates such. >>25322479>comma>pauseNGMI
>>25320645commas can be used to break up phrases in a sentence which have different subject-object-verb relations while still referring to the same subjects and/or object. It's not necessary for grammaticality, but it helps portion phrases of a sentence into easier chunks for readers.A "phrase" is a set of words with a subject-object-verb relation, whether implicit or explicit, by the way. Sentences can consist of one or multiple phrases. "Run on sentences" are annoying because it indicates the author can't get to the point.
>>25322479I specified stylistic in my post. Fuck off.>>25322619>Poorly written sentence and the comma punctuates such.There wasn't a comma in that sentence.
>>25322636>can't into context cluesThis is why you can't write.
commas are used for two reasons.to prevent run on sentences and if you are listing things.ass, butt, booty, anus, the list goes on!
>>25320645At least you don't have state exams in 3 days, in which that will be a possible question. Unlike me.(Also, despite common rules for predication and sentence structure, punctuation is subtly different for every language, for some fucking reason. If you speak multiple, you're going to get fucked up by exposure.)
>>25322648You forgot appositives. And numbers.
>>25320645>I DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO USE A FUCKING COMMA, OR NOT!You didn’t need one in this sentence.
The semicolon was made to be thrown at succinct lacedaemonians; but much like hegel’s minerva’s owl that flies like the battle of new orleans 1812 a bolt that flies from the bow after the war has ended the flashing glimpse of forethought and afterthought that the privileging of presence and being within western intellectual which annihilates the capacity to forethought and afterthought wherefore presence ought to always get partially abolished and deconstructed and constructed again as forethought and afterthought to ways that are aleatory and chance sourced the creation to semicolon does seem to occur before 1396 thereabouts and therefore after the peloponnesian war by that discordant time plague had already run through athens like a hot ember runs through the dry dusty leaves of trees and had the semicolon had occasional to get created earlier then there is chance that the lacedaemonians phalanx get scattered by the length to the athenian lines and enjambments potentially created from the utility and use to semicolon that results to a stressed or unstressed line to the meter or something like that
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