He followed up Gravity's Rainbow with THIS??????????
>>25320794filtered
>>25320794I'm assuming you too have written something as good as gravity's Rainbow and followed it up with something better than vineland. wait a minute I'm getting word you haven't? well then
He's a jokester
Read this before One Battle After Another and was slightly disappointed. Probably my least favorite of his but I still haven't gotten to Against the Day and Bleeding Edge (might not ever read that one).
>>25321155Low bar: I did that with cartoon-based comic books when I was 8.
>>25321155>durrr you can't have opinions on art unless you're an artist of comparable talentDude, even reddit wouldn't take youThis is an argument people make in elementary schoolLiterally how the fuck are you this retarded Go back to India
>>25321758This is how it should be, but critic plebs like you have convinced yourself en masse that what you think matters lol
A lot of juice went into Gravity's Rainbow. Very rarely (if ever? I'm having a hard time thinking of one) does someone follow up their masterpiece with something comparable.
>>25321276I re-read this before OBAA, still loved it, and was disappointed OBAA was too different yet simultaneously too similar.If you can deal with Inherent Vice and Shadow Ticket, there's little reason to avoid Bleeding Edge.
>>25321776Next book I read will probably be Against the Day, might was well finish his bibliography out at a later date. Also, Against the Day sounds like a shitty 2000s Hot Topic band.
>>25321763>not a pleb>thinks he's allowed to have opinions on plebsreally nigga?
>>25321829There is a hierarchy of people. The ones at the bottom can be commented on by the ones at the top, but the opposite is not true, for the ones at the bottom have no perception for what it is like for the ones at the top due to limited mental capacity, which is what keeps them at the bottom.
>>25321829If you knew what it took to create great art, you would be able to do it. That is so obvious yet the critics have convinced themselves otherwise.
>>25321909>great artHow do you call some art great without yourself being a critic? Or are you a great artist yourself? If only great artists themselves may have negative opinions then who can have positive ones?
>>25321935You can have negative opinions, but you must understand that it is only a personal feeling of how you interface with it and it is of no value.
>>25321905you want to sound smart so bad lmao
>>25321948lmao dude haha ye lmaaaaooooo
>>25321938But cannot good criticism itself be an artform? Or what if we expand criticism into a broader category of scholarship? Must a literary scholar also be themselves a novelist to write their dissertation on a novel?
>>25321769Yeah, but it took Pynch 17 years to come up with Vineland. We could be forgiven for expecting his answer to Finnegans Wake.
>>25322006The "pynchon" CIA program lost funding for those 17 years, as GR didn't have the effect they'd hoped it'd have. They tried again with Vineland but funding was so scant the couldn't write anything very good, and the program was effectively canceled after its publication. The rest of the works produced by the pynchon program were more or less made for fun, something the intelligence officers did in their spare time whilst working on other blackops. That's why pynchon lite is the way it is.
>>25322036Meta as fuck, well done!
But did you see the movie?
>>25322227NoThe master was nothing like V so I doubt this one will be similar
Gravity’s Rainbow is such a “boy’s” book
>>25322780What's a "girl's" book
>>25321769>Very rarely (if ever? I'm having a hard time thinking of one) does someone follow up their masterpiece with something comparable.Melville with MD/PierreMann with MM/JosephAnd the third one depends on what you think about Finnegans Wake
>>25322006It took Pynchon 20 years to come with Mason & Dixon, he just released this in-between as a potboiler
>>25323119Someone who gets it. M&D is the true successor to GR, Vineland was just a fun side piece he worked on while researching and pulling M&D together slowly.Though I do wonder if he had started ATD in those years too as it seems unlikely he'd pull out 1000+ pages in less than a decade between books.
>>25323088Emma.
>>25322036What was the intended effect? To tell everyone how shady they are?
>>25323447Psychological propaganda for the masses, and a discrete warning to "Them", the other underground agency the CIA is at war with
>>25323151>M&D is the true successor to GRBalls. It's literal prizebait. It has none of the depth and erudition of Gravity's Rainbow.
>>25324160Wroooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
>>25324163Triggering does not constitute an argument.
>>25324214Why isn't ATD the successor tho?
>>25324689Because M&D came out first?
>>25324160It has far more depth and erudition than GR and is a far more mature and better written work. 0 ways in which it's not better.
>>25325464mmh it's shallow and pedantic
>>25323447limited hangout
