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American Mishima
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He even wore a suit, in black and white. Just like Mishima. Chilling.
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fucking sexy type writer
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Mr Bradly Mr Martin blood whom I created
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Road to the Western Lands is literally just an old man describing how carefully he has to walk to avoid fatal falls on the way to the doctor
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>>25320959
His works and Mishima's are nothing alike.
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>>25320959
That would be Truman Capote.
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>>25321728
WSB actually killed Truman Capote with a cursed note, look it up
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You know this guy's on the Sgt Peppers album cover, right?
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>>25320959
I like Burroughs as a guy and Junky was entertaining but he is not even close to being in the same league as Mishima
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a shared lineage in Bataille is debatable
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I just want to know what's up with this Brion Gysin business
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I’ve been posting this guy for several months now and not one of you have been willing to discuss the actual content of his works
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>>25322978
>actual content of his works
Drugs and gay sex
Did I miss anything?
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>>25321740
What a character
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>>25322981
Collective consciousness, delusional self-narration, directing the film of one’s own life, the expanded cell-body-planet metaphor, astral projecting binary stars, the Lee-K9-Uranian Willy triad, the sentencing of the Ugly Spirit, specific meanings of chapters, The Mayan Caper, Ah Pook, bullshitting to make a point, the exact nature and metaphors for the author’s health issues, Lazarus and Co and a rehab, ‘predicting’ AIDS by simply saying gay blood is as weak and sick as gays themselves, aliasing, lying about a pov, Chinese Laundry, ‘Soul Killer’ as a cancer screening etc
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>>25323042
Long drawn-out rundown on all these points. I am a fellow Burroughsian. Who is Xolotl?
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>>25323052
Ooo havent gotten to the Dead roads trilogy yet, beyond the musical excerpts people have made
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>>25323083
What like that John Giorno album? That's a good one. I'm referencing The Wild Boys but I can't remember if X pops up in the later novels. There are figures like him.
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Trak Trak Trak is Ubik
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>>25323258
Yeah i love the whole John Giorno Burroughs collection
This reading is entitled…
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>>25323258
Also check out
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lV61-uDX7owQCXQsmHG5B1qy8ZyoA24a4&si=WNERT3Iq_mrNVvtx
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXI-Wdsum5zEAbUNNtAj3Utcz-hhsrnT6&si=YxG_b-DRlRIkQNKx
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>>25323052
If you’re asking me to expound on each I can do that in a few hours when I get home
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>>25323304
What are these things?
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>>25323452
Links to youtube playlists of albums featuring Burroughs’ voice recordings
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>>25323462
Are they actually good or just a novelty?
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>>25320959
>American Mishima
>posts a faggot man
wait, you're right, but mishima is cooler
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he isnt anything like mishima? Are you trying to bait? Not even their kind of homosexuality is the same
>>25323042
and thats it for most of his books. Sorry man, i like this guy too, but you gotta admit that he kinda rehashes the same stuff. I read junky and liked it, then i read naked lunch and was glad i read junky beforehand, after that the yage letters and my last book of him was cities of the red light, that started strong but drifted of into his usual stick and i realized that most of his books are the same experiences, jokes and situations just packaged a bit different with varying degrees of coherence. Once you read more than one book of him you have read them all. I still dig his music and stuff but he kinda lost his novelty very quick. But feel free to correct me, maybe his other stuff is different
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>>25323578
They're great especially the second one.
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>>25323609
>but you gotta admit that he kinda rehashes the same stuff
Yep. He's got a routine towards collective conciousness that uses the same growing set of sentence fragments and sets that he basically runs in as many configurations as possible. I totally agree with that. He made a big note of that in Junky regarding whichever 103rd Street Boy it was, who was in inveterate liar who sat in cafes telling the same stories, telling one with himself as the main character and then later telling the same story but with swapped personnel. It's really fun to notice that every Burroughs character is basically him (except the rare actual inflexible authority cops) and he's usually both spitting hate and hating on himself from a distance
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>>25323609
Oh plus the older he gets in his career he starts telling you his personal medical stories veiled as nuclear war and transcendental religion. 'Technician mixes a bicarbonate of soda and surveys the havoc on his viewscreen' is an x-ray technician looking at Burroughs' cancer screening (the green piss deal is when you get liver cancer and piss green). 'Every pitfall every star every error to which every man has been liable since the beginning you are sure to meet on the road the western lands' is him being very careful not to experience a fatal fall on the way to his doctor (of course completing this journey safely earns you temporary immortality). One of my favorite tricks of his.
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>>25323685
every pitfall every stair*
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>>25323685
>>25323680
gotta reread junky, but you have made many points i havent really caught on while reading him. Sometimes i read some part of naked lunch when im bored but thats it. Are you only interested in Burroughs or have you read other Beats as well? But it was unreal how much influence burroughs actually had on other writers, musicians directors and many other kinds of artists. Once i read him i noticed him in so much other stuff i already knew
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>>25323890
I would honestly say Burroughs doesn't even really understand what he is doing until around Nova Express. Remember he killed Joan Vollmer in 1951, Junky came out in 1953, and Alan Ginsberg had to peel cum-stained pages of the floor of a Tangier apartment to piece together what would become Naked Lunch. Burroughs is smart and Harvard-educated in writing for Junky and Naked Lunch, sure, but he is also abso-fucking-lutely ruined in a long dissociative isolation state basically living the paranoia of Naked Lunch while obsessively communicating by letter to other drug-using friends very much in the same way us 4chan users can shut-in for the worst years of our life. By the time he's writing The Soft Machine, he's actually taking some real self-evaluation and evolving his ideas dramatically (though still by extremely destructive means). The 'ending' of Nova Express blew my fucking mind and may have changed my life. I don't want to explain too hard, and it is a difficult text, but I would actually say go ahead and read Nova Express first if you'd like. It's really something
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And to keep it short
>The Soft Machine - What they are doing to us
>The Ticket That Exploded - What we do to eachother
>Nova Express - What have I done to myself
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>>25323590
>a faggot man
Are there any faggots that aren't men?
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>>25323890
>other beats
I like listening to Jack Kerouac here and there but he's really quite the sappy romantic isn't he? Alan Ginsberg really be like 'ooooo this weed gives me a headache glaivin!' and ships it as a poem, I really don't care for him. Haven't read the other beats but I've got Breakfast at Tiffany's on its way due to research caused by this thread. Anything you can recommend?
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>>25323685
>a writer is simply a recording device
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>>25324029
no i cant recommend anything else to you sorry, ive only read some kerouac and only howl by ginsberg and some letters between him and burroughs. Ginsberg disgusts me to my core and jack kerouac doesnt have much to say , although i enjoyed on the road. It was entertaining , but karma bums wasnt as good and he has a certain way of presenting himself in his novels that ticks me off, i think we do well with sticking to burroughs. I only know the movie with audrey hepburn, didnt know it was related in any way with the beats. But i gotta check out nova express, might ignite my flame for him again. I still dont get how he was able to still have people care for him and live such an social active live, even while shooting up all day and doing jackshit in his room. I dont think he can compare with a 4chan shut .in, this guy actually experienced life and talked to people. I dont think i could ever be as proactive and experience seeking as him. Alone his solotravels in the jungle. Wouldnt have the guts low inhibition even if i were poppin benzos liek a madman. Wish he had told us more about his time in vienna
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>>25324954
Yeah I dont mean to say he was a pure shut-in, just that he oscillated between super-hopped up extroverted drug expeditions, and locking himself in talking to himself through his keyboard on heroin. The cut-up trilogy really gets into what this cycle is like, or any cycle of hard drug use. Nova Express really gets into the pain he lives with, near the end. How strange and sick it is, and how much he did it to himself. What it feels like to be Burroughs on his worst of days (which are constant)
Also Truman Capote has nothing to do with the Beats, i was really saying I’m just reading other books from the 60s since the other Beats bore me lol



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