Anyone read this? It's being promoted by some very important people as a new seminal nonfiction text
GAD SAAD
As someone economically left but sympathetic to certain right wing social views, I really wish the level of scholarship on the right wasn't absolute cancer. It's difficult to see why anyone semi literate or thoughtful would want to associate themselves with that movement. A right wing intelligentsia would be a godsend.
>>25322509>zionist slop telling goyim that their life sucks and that they should be miserable while they live at their fullest back at the synagogueZzz...
>>25322525>economically lefwell that's fucking dumb but nice job larping as an "intellectual" or whatever tho
>>25322525Higher education has spent decades being as hostile as possible to the formation of right wing intellectuals.
>>25322509I coined the term "suicidal empathy" and memed it and now I'm mad that others are making millions of dollars off the ideas that I give away for free again while I remain broke as fuck
>>25322525you're gay and retarded, do the world a favor and kill yourself faggot
>>25322595You deserve it probably
>>25322509what is the point of this book when Camp of the Saints exists?
>>25322601in the words of Colin Quinn>It's ridiculous that I'm not a millionaire by now. It's just rude.
>>25322602They need to keep reinventing the wheel as their bullshit enters popular consciousness so they can disseminate their thoughts in semi-public without inviting ridicule. Camp of the Saints is known for what it is.
>>25322525>A right wing intelligentsiaCritical thought is antithetical to right wing ideology and you literally cannot have an intelligentsia without critical thought unless you go full sophist.
>>25322595I can't confirm that you coined it, but my immediate thought on first hearing about this book was that I was already familiar with the term and had even used it myself before. A really quick search on 4plebs finds lots of occurrences of it before this year, going back all the way to 2014, though it's questionable at what point the word combination became popular enough to count as a unified memetic concept. So yeah, it's annoying that this guy is being being described as having "coined" the term.
>>25322509>Suicidal empathy>Toxic empathyYou can tell that anyone who unironically uses these terminology is a straight up asshole.
>>25322579Intellectual output doesn't have to happen exclusively through higher education. There's a variety of right wing alternative media groups which include written publications. There are right wingers who have written books which are somewhat interesting, like Curtis Yarvin and Steve Sailer. But it's all just okay. It's never particularly exceptional. Maybe the most exceptional right winger was Nick Land and he started off very left.I thought the concept of "high trust" was an interesting route to go down actually. You used to hear it more a few years ago. But it never really got any development beyond "high trust = no niggers". It's a little disappointing. This could have been a concept that precipitated a new paradigm of social thinking. Not just in terms of ethnicity but applied to everything else too. How can we design buildings and infrastructure and educate the youth to produce a high trust society? At the time, people were talking about how great Japan and Singapore are. But it seems like nobody internalized any lessons from that other than being homogeneous. >>25322628I don't know if this is necessarily true in all cases. But it seems to be common at least among right wing movements today. You could probably argue that fascists replacing dialectical materialism with a kind of ethnic equivalent is a form of critical engagement. But then they betray it all by talking about the mystical Aryan spirit or whatever.
>>25322635On second thought, after being called an asshole by this guy >>25322635 the term I might've used was "suicidal altruism." In context, I used it to refer to the ethics Jesus advocates for with the whole "give all your money to the poor," "if anyone asks for your stuff, give it to them," and "If anyone takes your stuff, don't try to get it back," "turn the other cheek," (with no clear provision allowing self defense), etc. Stuff that, if you really put it into practice, might easily lead to an early grave if you didn't live around nice people.
>>25322654meant to first reply to my own post here >>25322629
>>25322650>curtis yarvin>nick landopinion discarded. you're just a braindead consumer of e-celeb slop
>>25322654>might easily lead to an early grave if you didn't live around nice peopleAnd then you get the eternal reward of heaven
>>25322668Alternative media is utilized by the right to avoid institutions they see as ideologically captured by leftists. In a very real sense, 'e-celeb slop' comprises a large portion of modern right wing discourse.
>>25322683>Alternative media is utilized by the right to avoid institutions they see as ideologically captured by leftistsLet's not mince words here. In this observation they are correct.
>>25322525>I want to both steal everyone's money and prevent everyone from having funLol, grim
>>25322628Retard
>>25322628>Critical thought is antithetical to right wing ideologyNo, it's not, you actual retard.
>>25322595So in a sense your memeing of suicidal empathy was suicidal empathy.
>>25322525Firstly, it’s completely impossible for a real right-wing intelligentsia and related cultural institutions to form because the right-wing today is entirely driven by online slop populism based in the United States, of which Gad Saad is a prominent member. Every conservative movement in the West is beholden to these English-language bot farms, rage-bait factories and “independent” media orgs propped up with Jewish and Arab money. Conservatives don’t have an interest in authentic intellectual or artistic momentum. Secondly, and most important, the right-wing today is barely right-wing anyways. They’re still starting foreign wars in the Middle East for freedom and equality, still saying we should control immigration because the migrants don’t support the LGBT enough, etc. Marco Rubio released a statement today saying China will become a liberal democracy one day. Any real criticism of liberal ideology is suffocated or recast as nonsense like “suicidal empathy” so our maladies in the West can be treated as pop psychology disorders and not deeply ingrained defects in our political economy that requires a lot of effort to change. Conservatards are not serious people. They will shoot themselves in the foot as always and the West will continue to become brown and gay.
>>25322704>No, it's not, you actual retard.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve
>>25322716>Marco Rubio released a statement today saying China will become a liberal democracy one day.He's not wrong, it probably will, but it will be a long process.
>>25322525>Saad's thesis is not "empathy is bad." It's "empathy without boundaries, reciprocity, or cost-benefit analysis becomes self-destructive.""boundary" tells me everything, i blame the western psychology/therapy movement. it was the left that promoted that shit right? they all need to burn. i'm not a right-wing chud motherfucker like these whiteniggers on this website but my fucking god am i angrier at the left/progressives/liberals than they are.
>>25322725He’s very wrong, but regardless, it’s outrageous and insulting to hope another country you have relations with will have regime change and just shows how libtarded conservatives in power in the West still are besides Trump. Trump only succeeded because he doesn’t actually care about politics, only himself, and this allowed him to soar above the mediocrity of liberal societies.
>>25322716You've been conquered in such totality that you give credence to the theater they make as if it were real. And its all because of your narcissistic propensity to pontificate instead of doing anything of value. The first step towards an actually better future is recognizing your failure and then, plotting an exit strategy. There is nothing left for you here but temporary profit in treachury.
I wanted to like Gad Saad because I like contrarians. And researching psychology of commerce is a good idea. But he is so full of himself, and so arrogant and looking down on the plebs that I had to stop. It also shows in his books.
>>25322733>He’s very wrongChina is very nationalistic at the moment, but with time it may become infiltrated by a young generation of half chinese racemixers who will try to change that. I'm not saying this is a positive thing, but it's a very real possibility.
>>25322720>In economics, the Laffer curve illustrates a theoretical relationship between rates of taxation and the resulting levels of the government's tax revenue. The Laffer curve assumes that no tax revenue is raised at the extreme tax rates of 0% and 100%, meaning that there is a tax rate between 0% and 100% that maximizes government tax revenue.[a][1][2] that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion
>>25322753>that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussionThe discussion was how critical thought relates to right wing ideology (or rather doesn't). I figured bringing up a cornerstone of right wing economic theory that is believed uncritically and contrary to evidence would be highly relevant.
>>25322650Yarvin is "just okay" huh? Why, because he doesn't write in a bloated academic style stuffed with obnoxious hedging or pointless references? The person who made this post is probably like, a 21 year old college student.. who is he to say what is good or bad? That's the problem with this board. You have people who are nowhere close to the level of the people they are critiquing acting as if their opinion matters. They never make an argument they just make a vague reference to one like, "just okay". What does it mean to be okay? What does it mean to be good? Why is he one but not the other?
>>25322650It's because beneath all the pomp and snobbery all the right has to offer is a platter of very tepid, uninspiring, bourgeois, but ultimately sensible beliefs. They want clean streets, low crime, orderliness, and a sense of community and homogeneity. They recognise that immigration and social liberalism stand in the way of achieving this, so they oppose them. As well, they believe in economic liberalism, the freedom of the market, 'hard work'. As a result they are hostile to art and higher education, and want to defund all but the 'productive' disciplines. The right doesn't produce intellectuals because it is a movement of the practical, bourgeois, bull-headed, 'sensible' types who make the world go around, not of freethinkers, dreamers, visionaries.
GAD SAAD should change his name to GAD GLAAD and lighten up a bit.
>>25322525There's a billion dollar NGO and media complex promoting reactionary thought that isn't just ragebait dopamine farming for idiot goyim like Fox News. The heritage foundation, brookings institute, first things mag etc. are all part of it.The reason nobody pays attention to them is twofold:1. Most reactionaries prefer the cheap dopamine garbage2. These institutions are upheld by billionaire dark money which insulates them from market selection pressures so they aren't accountable to an audience of any kind to keep existing.The soiblobs with cushy jobs at these institutions are some of the most soul-crushingly mediocre people out there. It's ironic that lefty publications are on average more readable due to market forces.
>>25322874>that is believed uncritically>source: your gaping faggot assholeshut the fuck up and go kill yourself, retard
>>25322926No, it's because the arts and media in general are gatekept by retarded leftist faggots. It's that simple.
>>25322525you really triggered the righties with this one...
Leftists are just spouting their useless tautologies again>right wing thought can’t be intelligent because it just can’t!!!!
>>25323339YWNBAW
>>25323332Unfortunately basing your whole ontology in materialism its no wonder most of its tied to market forces and about as valuable as such and nothing at all transcendent.
>>25323336This is mostly due to market selection as I outlined here >>25323332. To succeed in the right wing NGO/Elite media circuit you need to be highly credentialed and elite and/or have insider knowledge. Most Brookings fellows are ivy-educated. Rod Dreher wasn't elite-educated but had insider knowledge about the Orban regime and was able to leech off the Hungarian taxpayer and make 3x the average national salary while living in Budapest and writing for a regime paper. That gravy train is over now though.
>>25323356Which publications are currently keeping the lights on with transcendent values?
>>25322716>Firstly, it’s completely impossible for a real right-wing intelligentsia and related cultural institutions to form because the right-wing today is entirely driven by online slop populism based in the United StatesIt wasn't allowed to exist in any other format. Right-wing populism has been getting mortared by its ideological rivals for over a century. No I'm not referring to post-WW2 society as an origin point, although it sure didn't help that a nationalist, populist, volkist party immediately disappointed everyone by invading a neighboring nation and giving the Rothschilds an excuse to demonize them. The sort of stuff typically valued by the right-wing has not been permitted to create any sort of foothold because ideas such as>small close communities>neighbors from the same genetic stock>everyone goes to the same churchdo not mesh with industrialism or globalism, two ideas focused on amassing as much power and money as humanly by creating a tossed salad of every possible race or religion, all sharing the same manacles of wage-slavery. Additionally those who profited off all this began to understand they can use the inevitable incompatibility of industrial-globohomo to create a perpetual aura of paranoia, dread and terror (because human beings were never hardwired to mingle with 50 different kinds of exterior tribe, constantly, in every facet of their life) that justify things like an authoritarian police state and domestic spying. Among other things. Just look at Britain.When you deprive human beings of that instinct to belong, residing in a group of human beings like them, in a small community, where priorities are generally very clear, and also spend a disproportionate amount of time inflicting Shock & Awe on any group who tries to divert human society away from what amounts to economic chattel (because it's virtually impossible to live a decent, healthy life without participating in the globohomo game; another form of emotional and ideological terrorism, making people submit before something they inherently understand is unnatural) you can't seriously be surprised when that instinct doesn't simply "go away" like that faggot Lenin implied it would. It was beer halls yesterday, it's the internet today. But even this is fairly deliberate because, as you seem to have accepted, no "intelligentsia" is going to come into existence through a bunch of ordinary people knowing something is wrong but not hashing out the intricacies of why in any way beyond yelling about it. Meanwhile kosher Frankfurt faggotry dictates the FBI, CIA and every major wealthy university in the country.
>>25322716>the right-wing today is barely right-wing anywaysright>They’re still starting foreign wars in the Middle Eastsemitism>freedom and equalityit was always semitism, that was always a semitic lie from the talmudvision to keep the zogged out boomers saying yes to the pollsters>still saying we should control immigration because the migrants don’t support the LGBT enoughthat was always semitic replacement migration for migrants distort the labor and housing markets while consuming government welfare>Marco Rubio released a statement today saying China will become a liberal democracy one daysemitic cant>Any real criticism of liberal ideology is [replacement migrated with] nonsense like “suicidal empathybasically ever since the epstein class assassinated charlie and still couldnt get anyone under age 50 and not totally zogged by the talmudvision to support their iran war, it has been clear that there is only semitism and antisemitism as the response to semitism
>>25322650>the concept of "high trust" was an interesting route to go downyeah well i dont know if you remember it being discussed 10 years ago but it leads to misogyny which is the beating heart of the right wing>fascists replacing dialectical materialism with a kind of ethnic equivalentmeaningless>then they betray it all by talking about the mystical Aryan spirittransitioning from an ethnicity to an ethic spirit (picrel) which anyone can participate in is just basic political coalition building. on the other hand the concept of the aryan spirit can be used to replace the ancestral aryan religion with an offshoot of judaism in which the aryan is his own messiah instead of the jew is his own messiah
>>25322509the suicidal empathy was for the bars of soap produced in the eastern german regions during the wars of banking unification
>>25322509Let me guess>it's bad to have empathy for Palestinians, dumb fucking goy, don't you know they're a bunch of terrorists who will bomb you the second they're given the chance?Lmao no thanks I've been inundated with kike propaganda my entire life and I'm actually genuinely really really sick and tired of it.
>>25322716Right wingers need to start taking cues from Pol Pot if thats the case.
>>25322525KYS, shitlib
>>25323392See? You're falling into the same trap as conservatives then. The idea of a pragmatic notion of producing and consuming, which is why vulgar Marxism and modern conservatism have so much in common.
>>25322628Gottem
>>25322746Underrated post
>>25322650>But it seems like nobody internalized any lessons from that other than being homogeneous.Because that's literally the only way to achieve it.
>>25322650>somewhat interesting, like Curtis YarvinShalom, jewboy
>>25323343It can't. History bears it out.
>>25323343Hic Rhodus, hic salta
>>25323336when you look at right wing discourse it's all basically just "I'm scared of black people because they are violent and will beat me up". They praise white people for their "social conformity" and economic success. The right values money, family, and everything that's normal, castrated and 'civilised' and 'proper'. Then they will secretly watch gangster movies, listen to rap music etc, because they know that deep down the social conformist white man with an office job and a wife and 3 kids they idolise is just a coward.
>>25322509It’s hilarious he couldn’t even get peabrain Rogan onboard with his book shilling because he had to defend Israel. The more he talks the more he makes it clear everything he says is just projection. Suicidal empathy to let in people with allegiances to other countries UNLESS IT’S ISRAEL. Suicidal empathy to have a bunch of religious nuts in your country, UNLESS IT’S JEWS. Suicidal empathy to give gibs to them, UNLESS IT’S ISRAEL. Free education and healthcare is a scam, but keep giving billions to Israel so they can have it. Fucker had nothing but word games to play when it comes to ethnic cleansing and mass murder, starvation of kids. Imagine you’re Santa and you have a kid with a nuclear bomb. Well it’s pretty obvious now you have to support Israel I guess.
>>25323756aryan chuds don't watch heebish slop
>>25323756Ok and?
>>25323756>Then they will secretly watch gangster movies, listen to rap music etc, because they know that deep down the social conformist white man with an office job and a wife and 3 kids they idolise is just a coward.Weird projection. People like you would in any other discussion claim listening to rap makes right wingers burst into flames, and it shows how they don't know "good music" (which is exclusively nigger mumble according to such an enlightened man). Similarly with embracing whatever Hollywood slop is being put out, when it's so deliberately targeted toward your demographic that any mild curveball to that trend like the Taylor Sheridan slop on TV, is seen as some kind of affront to entertainment.
>>25323813>Taylor Sheridan slop on TV, is seen as some kind of affront to entertainment.It is by any measure. Even wokeslop has more artistic merit than watching boomers perform autofellatio.
>>25323773These brave, heterodox truth tellers in the IDW sphere spent a decade saying>There's a religion in the middle east that's so EXTREME and you'll get CANCELLED in the media if you criticize it. These are racial supremacist ZEALOTS who think non-members are CATTLE and should be killed. These people can't coexist with the West!!!And never ever thought that anyone would look at Israel and come to the same conclusions about Jews. Partially because despite many of them being devoted Zionists almost none of them live in Israel because it's a shithole.
>>25322525The right already has an equivalent intelligentsia to the left you're just more hostile to their views so you see it as stupider. Leftist intellectuals just exists to say "corporations bad" and call everything bigoted. It's really not a hard bar to meet.
>>25323855You don't feel one iota of shame for posting that when you know it isn't true do you?
>>25323858This kind of response could easily have come from a leftist intellectual. Just implies I'm lying and know it without saying anything. So absorbed in their own viewpoint they think it's impossible for me to believe leftist intellectualism is that rotted out. Well it is.
>>25322746The theater is real. There is nothing today except the theater. We have a fucking celebrity reality TV show as the leader of the West. The dumbest thing people say today is that the internet has no impact on real life. On the contrary, all the demoralization slop and bot farms of Twitter are the things driving policy in America right now, so much so that Elon even worked in the government before being promptly humiliated when he didn't get what he wanted.
>>25323335>source: your gaping faggot assholeFeel free to critically defend the idea that cutting taxes increases tax revenue. I'd like to see that shit.It's either believed uncritically or right wingers are literally delusional and living in an alternate reality. Pick your poison.Or are you going to claim it's not believed on the right despite the literal mountains of evidence across decades to that effect including numerous major public policy initiatives? That'd be impressive. It's rare that someone can talk out of their ass with their head shoved that far up it.
>>25323336You run all 3 branches of government. You have the wealthiest person in the world on your side. You have every Jew and Zionist upholding your power. And yet what are conservatives doing with it? Still bitching about how they're powerless and oppressed, still whining that they can't achieve anything, still putting all their effort into foreign wars in the Middle East. You people could have all money in the world, and you would still rather create AI slop for Indians and Nigerians on the Internet to clap at than put money towards actual fruitful artistic ventures that would make an impact on the world.
>>25323877>You run all 3 branches of government.This is how you know you're dealing with a retarded leftist bot. Talking point slop. I've read this exact sentence maybe more than a hundred times.We've controlled the state 2 times in the last 5 presidencies. During this time you still had every single institution captured with faggot communists pushing your agenda as hard as possible. You still had an army of jobless troons swarming over anyone pushing back online, and social right-wing viewpoints while mainstream media blasted everyone with leftist propaganda. Yet you still say this stupid shit because some influencer said it and your retarded leftoid brain thought "durr dat's a good point" and now you all repeat it everywhere.
kill everyone who has strong opinions on burger politics
>>25323894Keep crying, pussy. You don't care about power. Even when you guys have it, all you do is whine that you don't. Because you don't actually want power, you just want to LARP your fantasy of being the downtrodden peasant defecting from all the village idiots and feudal lords exploiting you. You want to reclaim the castle taken over by the barbarian hordes but you will never for a moment consider building a better castle or a better town square. No, you just prefer to sit on your throne while the castle walls continue to rot and wither. That's all that Trump and his cronies do. Your logic is that the leftist deep state still runs everything, which means that Trump does nothing about it with his power and prefers to do insider trading and suck Jewish cock
>>25323894>>25323901you see these two loud automatons? these are the people who have ruined every single corner of the internet for all time.
>>25323773I'm not going to read this book because the whole thesis is just absurd -- that the real thing harming the West is some abstract psychological and emotional force, and not the actual systems we have ingrained in every material sector that pushes for things like immigration, LGBT, slave morality etc. And that this is all coming from a Zionist Jew who puts every other "woke" person to shame when it comes to acting like a victim is just fucking insulting. All this guy does is complain about anti-Semitism online and his only interest in "saving" the West is because he needs to protect Israel. That's how it works, huh Gad? Jews work for decades pushing all of this ideological cancer onto the world that erodes the fabric of Western society, then when things get bad you turn around and lecture the rest of us about how it's our fault and we should pray towards Jerusalem and be more like Israel.
>>25323901>blablabla schizo bullshit blablablaSorry we couldn't completely transform all of society in two nonconsecutive terms while you still controlled everything else. Guess that means we didn't want to! Fucking retard.
No idea about this book but I'm someone with some interest in academic psychology. As a psychologist he is legit and his kind of work actually survived replication.
>>25323814I see you had no counter argument to my points.
>>25323817>brave, heterodox truth tellers in the IDW sphereTruth tellers likeBret and Eric Weinstein, who claim to have coined it, jews. Gad Saad (book above), lebanese jew.Sam Harris, jew.Jordan Peterson, spiritually jewish (according to himself). Dave Rubin and Bari Weiss, guess what, jews. Steven Pinker, Ben Shapiro. Yes you guessed it.Even Jonathan Haidt was connected to IDW, and he's... a jew. In fact the only people I can find that don't have a direct link are Rogan himself (who isn't really part of it but platformed the retards), Ayaan Hirsi Ali who just hated the muds who cut her clit off, and Douglas Murray who isn't jewish but does zionist propaganda non stop. Seems like this set of brave controversial truth tellers were united by something other than their quest to fight the establishment and speak truth to power. It's just being a zionist neocon + saying muslims are evil and trannies are bad really.
>>25324027It's all just rebranded neoconservatism, even MAGA now as evidenced with Trump's sudden interventionist turn. Instead of saying "we need to spread freedom and democracy to the brown hordes" they say "brown hordes are trying to destroy our freedom and democracy." It is not at all coincidental that these people got in power once Israel was attacked and there was an appetite for more wars in the Middle East after Oct 7.
>>25322525you know its true because of the amount of replies
>>25323855The right-wing intelligentsia in question
>>25324056klandance, tucker qatarlson, judge napolitano,
>>25324061Candace Owens is the greatest example of the right-wing's inability to curate a strong cultural and intellectual sphere. She is a genuine parasite who has now turned on them and works for foreign governments like Russia, but they all promoted her in the first place solely because they thought "wow a black female conservative that makes us look good"
>>25324079>Candace Owens is the greatest example of the right-wing's [...]ability to curate a strong cultural and intellectual sphere. She is a genuine [hero] who has now turned on [(((]them[)))] and works for [american] [peoples] [...]ftfy>but they all promoted her in the first place solely because they thought "wow a black female conservative that makes us look good"so, we need to distinguish between charlies angel klandance and klandance having a day job with ben shapiro. klandance wasnt nick fuentes but a real woman and a real papist, her podcasting gig wasnt her life, which is why when shapiro dropped her she was able to continue
>>25324079>Candace Owens is the greatest example of the right-wing's inability to curate a strong cultural and intellectual sphere.Candace Owens wasn't recruited to curate a strong intellectual sphere. Beyond that, right wingers couldn't give a rat's ass about curating a strong intellectual sphere beyond think tanks.Meanwhile, right wing attempts to curate a strong cultural sphere ultimately just boil down to throwing money at influencers actively espousing right wing talking points, or more often, willing to switch to right wing talking points for a check while astroturfing the shit out of anything with a right wing name attached and using social media to radicalize people through algorithm manipulation and bots. And on that front Candace worked fine until she found better money.You're overlooking the fact that Candace isn't turning anyone to the left. It doesn't matter if she's a parasite as long as she served her purpose and there aren't left wing billionaires around to get her shilling for Bernie. There are an endless parade of grifters and endless piles of right wing cash that will continue to do the job Candace was doing until they all inevitably flame out after some major scandal or switch to Russian money or whatever.The right wing doesn't fucking need a real intellectual or cultural sphere. Their voters are anti-intellectual sheep amused by jangling keys and their politicians exist to serve lobbyists. It would be pearls before swine.
Kill everyone itt
>>25324098>klandance wasnt nick fuentes but a real woman and a real papistIf you knew literally the first thing about Candace Owens, you wouldn't be attaching "real" to her name. She's a professional marketer that originally espoused left wing politics.
>>25323817>And never ever thought that anyone would look at Israel and come to the same conclusions about Jews.Their hubris is truly amazing. You're seeing it right now in Albania where they're having pro-Hitler signs and protesting against Jared Kushner buying their private land. Like, what the fuck were these Jews even expecting? You were gonna lock down your influence in the West and try to conquer the Middle East and not face any resistance?
>>25324100There's no intellectualism to be anti in modern leftist politics. You're all just lying retards spamming studies that don't replicate to bolster narratives that contradict observable reality. Just maggots feeding on the rotting corpse of institutions that used to have credibility.
>>25324056Okay now post leftist intellectuals that are better. Peterson is kind of unhinged but probably genuinely smarter than every single leftist who hates him.
>>25322514and that's why i won't read a word of it
>>25324132>You're all just lying retards spamming studies that don't replicate to bolster narratives that contradict observable reality.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulityAlso>We don't need to prove our bullshit because your evidence is fakeis the argument of a fucking buffoon.The replication crisis is a real thing, but literally fuck all is stopping the right from producing studies disproving science you have a problem with if you're actually right about it being wrong.Still waiting on the right proving climate change isn't real.
>>25324132>I'm too fucking stupid to critically challenge the results of studies so I'll simply discount them for not conforming to my worldviewNot really beating the anti-intellectual allegations.
>>25324150reddit had a board called black pill science filled with studies like that, you just don't hear about them because the guardian or whoever isn't going to write an article on them
>>25324150>We manufactured a fake reality by producing bad evidence that doesn't prove anything and capturing every single media organizations for decades but you have to prove everything we said individually wrong while being blacklisted for doing so or you're just a dumb chud!No I don't lol. Your worldview is just an intuition same as mine if the evidence is all fake.
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>>25324154>reddit had a board called black pill science filled with studies like that>A subreddit dedicated to understanding the realities of human social and sexual behavior.>one of the top posts is about chickens finding humans hot...Ah yes, truly a challenge to accepted science.
>>25324155>if the evidence is all fake.You don't see the problem with this qualifier, huh?Also>literally admitting your worldview is based on intuitionJesus fucking Christ
>>25324153>Our evidence producing machine wasn't actually a carefully calibrated tool trying to understand the world but actually just a massive propaganda center and interpreting reality through studies is basically impossible because you actually can't filter out all the bias and intuition involved.>Still though you have to spend all your time disproving every single one individually or we're right.I mean, kill yourself really.>>25324164>one of the top posts is about chickens finding humans hotMake it a badly controlled study about how white people are giga racists and give this man ten million dollars and a spot on every news station.
>>25324156I literally know exactly what this meme is bitching about, and, like always, you should have read the rest of the paragraph before and after the quote.
>>25324170Intuition is what researchers use to produce the studies because they have to use it to decide what to control for and how much, how to interpret results, etc etc. If that wasn't the case how could the replication crisis happen in the first place? It would be simple as pie to produce a sheet of paper telling you objective reality.So believing "science" is essentially giving your intuition away to some leftist faggot trying to produce a narrative and surprise surprise they were not careful and unbiased.
>>25324164>We trained chickens to react to an average human female face but not to an average male face (or vice versa). In a subsequent test, the animals showed preferences for faces consistent with human sexual preferences (obtained from university students). This suggests that human preferences arise from general properties of nervous systems, rather than from face-specific adaptations. We discuss this result in the light of current debate on the meaning of sexual signals and suggest further tests of existing hypotheses about the origin of sexual preferences.trust the science.
>>25324171>Still though you have to spend all your time disproving every single one individually or we're right.Yes. Fuck you. You act like only leftists are capable of conducting studies.That's how fucking scientific debate works. Claims are made. Evidence is presented. Counterclaims and counterevidence are then presented. Gradually consensus is reached through critical weighing of each by the scientific community. Don't bitch about the consensus is you can't provide any counterevidence.You're just too stupid, lazy, or delusional to defend your positions, so you cope about the left being just as shit as the right because they dared to challenge your worldviews.Newsflash, fuckwit. The left actually believes what they're saying. They trust the evidence they have. They aren't anti-intellectual just cause you think intellectuals aren't real.
>>25324181>Intuition is what researchers use to produce the studies because they have to use it to decide what to control for and how much, how to interpret results, etc etc. If that wasn't the case how could the replication crisis happen in the first place? It would be simple as pie to produce a sheet of paper telling you objective reality.Really not beating the anti-intellectual allegations.
>>25324173a 6 year old here who doesnt know what that meme means can push the ai button on mommys ipad and ask why daddy doesnt play with him any more and chatgpt can explain that tyrone loves him and mommy more than that deadbeat ever could
>>25324189>This way of producing evidence doesn't map onto reality but produce more of it to argue with my nonevidence.You're just too scared of the idea that many things will be unknowable or impossible to quantify. It HAS to be the case that studies can measure everything even though that has been proven completely false.
>>25324191>Really not beating the anti-intellectual allegations.Weird that sounds like a bit of a non-argument from a supposed intellectual. Sounds more like an attempt at rhetorical maneuvering. Oh well I must be imagining it after all you're the smart one.
>>25324150>You thought it was wet? Wait until the Asian brown cloud hits town>https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2002/aug/12/climatechange.sciencewhere were u when the asian brown cloud hit?
>>25324171>Make it a badly controlled study about how white people are giga racists and give this man ten million dollars and a spot on every news station.Can you point to a study remotely comparable to this? Or show me a single social science researcher raking in 10s of millions per study?Also, you're literally bitching about racial essentialism, lmao.
>>25324189>The left actually believes what they're saying. They trust the evidence they have.oh yeah that must be why the left is still pushing economic policies that fail every time
>>25324198>This way of producing evidence doesn't map onto reality but produce more of it to argue with my nonevidence.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity>>25324200>Weird that sounds like a bit of a non-argument from a supposed intellectual.I wasn't making an argument. I was mocking you. My argument was about your beliefs. You continuing to talk has only supported my claims. Honestly, keep going.
>>25324208>oh yeah that must be why the left is still pushing economic policies that fail every timeAh yes, universal healthcare has truly failed everywhere it has been tried.
>>25324215oh that's true, when mitt romney made healthcare universal in massachusetts it went pretty well, when u said leftist i didn't realize u meant mainstream republican, i had misunderstood.
>>25324212Why do you think that wikipedia page is relevant? I'm arguing the inherent reliance on intuition in research makes the results useless and that the replication crisis proves this. Even things that do replicate are often used to draw wrong conclusions. I'm starting to get the feeling you are just extremely stupid and mad that I'm not trusting the science.>I wasn't making an argument.Yes, I know.
>>25324215Picture is actually mixed because it's currently causing Canada a massive shortage of doctors and extremely long wait times. Hard to say how much of any result is the specific conditions of the country it's tried in. But also, you picked one of the strongest cases, how about:>LET'S TRY RENT CONTROL AGAIN!>LET'S TRY COMMUNISM AGAIN!>HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE WHOOO!
>>25324228also lets see how universal healthcare works in europe when they have to pay for their own defense
I just don't want to interact with non whites in any shape, form, or fashion. I think this is a reasonable desire.
>>25324220>when mitt romney made healthcare universal in massachusettsMassachusetts doesn't have universal healthcare.>>25324225>Why do you think that wikipedia page is relevant?Because it is. That you don't understand why it is is a you problem. Anyway, keep going. It's nice not having to argue.>>25324228>LET'S TRY RENT CONTROL AGAIN!Generally leftists argue for more public housing and zoning reform nowadays. Also busting the economic collusion going on in the renting industry.Remind me again what the right wing solution is?>HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE WHOOO!Failures to increase the minimum wage are pretty directly tied to wages not keeping up with productivity and the greater economic stratification we've seen in recent decades. Or in other words we were doing better economically when we were doing that shit than now that we've stopped.Remind me again what the right wing solution is?
>>25324228>Picture is actually mixed because it's currently causing Canada a massive shortage of doctors and extremely long wait timesA shortage of doctors causes a shortage of doctors, not universal healthcare. Also wait times in the US are also fucked in part due to a shortage of doctors here too. Also Canada is hardly the only fucking country with universal healthcare.
>>25324311>Massachusetts doesn't have universal healthcare.>As of the most recent data from late 2025, 97.9% of Massachusetts residents reported having health insurance, maintaining the nation's lowest uninsured rate.deal with it nerd
>>25324311>Generally leftists argue for more public housingoh so u guys are ready to try "the projects" again? we just got done tearing down all the ones from the 60s, but ok, maybe it will work this time!
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>>25323906I see them. And its so unironically over.
>>2532432297.9% isn't 100%. Also, insurance isn't access to healthcare.
>>25324602>insurance isn't access to healthcare.that's true, good point. in america 100% of people have access to healthcare, but some don't pay the bill.
explain how this wouldn't solve all problems in america.
>>25322509Literal Mossad propaganda
>>25324606>in america 100% of people have access to healthcareLmao, the last time I tried to see a specialist they flat out refused to see me without insurance of a kind they accepted, even when I offered to pay in advance out of pocket. The fuck we don't. We have access to an ER (assuming you don't live in one of the many poorfuck counties without even that).>>25324733Why the fuck would an ethnostate with millions of internally displaced refugees living under military occupation argue empathy is bad?
>>25324752Empathy for brown people = badEmpathy for Jews = good
>>25322716woah, that physiognomy is remarkable. what a specimen, truly.
>>25323756>"I'm scared of black people because they are violent and will beat me up". They praise white people for their "social conformity" and economic success. Less scared and more disgust. That and the so-called un-tainted brown masses still shit up Europe in droves, so their assertion is correct that social conformity requires ethnic conformity. Especially since Europe is the ultimate litmus test of this "social mixing test" of letting in brown people and said brown people still chimping out and adopting Americano black victimization cards and the left just sings their chimping praises as legitimate.>Then they will secretly watch gangster movies, listen to rap music etc, KEK! Maybe Eminem when he was still relevant. Rap culture isn't even that popular anymore. And the only time I remember anyone praised gangster culture was the fucking Mafia, not hoodrats.
>>25322509He's pro genocide
>>25326204He literally worked for Mossad. Not even joking, he is an Israeli Zionist propagandist.
