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Why are millennials and zooomers attached to the idea that they an audience in order to make art?
Every week or so I read someone whining that they don't see the point of writing something because no one reads or that big publishers only care about kind of certain authors. This kind of attitude just comes across as ignorant and performative because the only thing that is stopping them is their desire for having someone to read their works, rather than their ability to make something. It's like as if the idea that you can make art for fun or self satisfaction is completely alien to them.
Another thing. A lot of people think that commercial success and living from publishing works is the only thing that matters, when the reality is that writers like J. K. Rowling and Stephen King can do so because they live off from the royalties they get from adaptations of their works. Through history, most authors were either their era equivalent of trust fund kids or had to work doing something else, like teaching or writing for newspapers.
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>>25323314
>that they an audience
you need to see that you an audience if you they understand what a is.
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Why can neither of you write properly?
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>>25323334
Damn, I wrote this at 4am and still got it wrong despite verifying it three times.
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Social atomization, which Hannah Arendt tells us, is a necessary condition for totalitarianism.
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In other words, loneliness.
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>>25323583
Yeah I don't trust the opinions of jews on anything.
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>>25323589
At a distance, man, I did admire thee,
In that sense filled not with reverence. But
Fear, In my apeish way agape, stern put
Me forth to first gather scattered lightnings.
Like on a clever day the dumb shall speak
The deaf shall hear, the blind shall see. Today,
That kind of thing is happening! Don’t pray
Tomorrow. Underground dens rise like peaks,
And burst outright, treasures stolen so none
saw, stuffed into holes thought to avoid a time
When worry would not fill the void inside
A heart so weary from having done such
Wrong, That never learned to discern from right.
So you can tear asunder sick and die.
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>>25323589
The people who say this on /pol/ always support the most rabidly Zionist candidates who want to outlaw criticism of Israel
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>>25323600
>if I assume things about my oppent with a retarded generalization I win
ok jeet, go back to goodreads
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>>25323587
But it across as pathetic, doesn't it?
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Loads of people write just for their own pleasure, but for obvious reasons, you don’t hear about them. Use your brain, retard.
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>>25323589
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>>25323314
I reckon of the causes was of being afflicted by the van gogh gaugin idea to or collaboration, and partly all artists are afflicted and affected by this sort of utopia art idea but to van gogh especially that were somewhat the idea this van gogh idea to collaboration that destructs and deconstructs this idea to audience that as much destroys and deconstructs the idea to representation and representationality and party to the movement to some avant garde that were composed as much just out of the research that van gogh and gaugin were doing because the idea to navigate and construct sense and sensibility and modes to perception were challenge to address because van gogh’s painting were such a challenge to traditional painting and representation and van gogh poses the difficulty that van gogh paintings would come to be valued very highly on the marketplace but van goghs paintings had intensity that either tore through pretense or didn’t impress the bourgeois at the time or both or was addressed to needs that did not have a name and perceptions to vision that were just finding recognition to awareness at to the context to modernity and dealing with that and next getting back the organic feeling for fun and self satisfaction after forgetting all the harsh lessons from buxtehude or something like that
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>>25323314
Because they think that best-selling artists = good artists. That's it. What you're dealing with is a legion of delusional fame-hounding faggots, OP. It's rare, especially these days, to find someone of that generation who gives a fuck about artistic values and publishes a work for the sake of it, or for fun, instead for a quick buck.
Shit, they forget that some of the GOATs died in obscurity before being elevated to greatness 50 or more years later.
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Some of the best works of art will never see the light of day because the creators never intended it to be shared. You write because you need to express yourself; all else is incidental. If you want to write some ambitious project but the whole idea seems pointless, it's because you don't have the intellectual and emotional endurance (yet) to put into something expansive that may not yield a material reward or validation. That's not a reason not to keep working at it, just a reason to slow down a bit and pace yourself.
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>>25324773
>some of the GOATs died in obscurity before being elevated to greatness 50 or more years later.
not true btw
a lot of artists were successful during their time, just not as much as their contemporaries
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lol
i remember watching a Sadler video about Rilke's advice to a young poet who kept showing people his unfinished work and Sadler was like "well, stop doing that!"
usually what happens is people try to initiate a positive feedback loop by soliciting reviews of their ideas or drafts. when this doesn't happen they are inclined to think their work has no merit at all, so they get demoralized and wonder if they're stupid for even bothering. your average person is used to a baseline level of good faith treatment so when they don't get it they think they're doing something they shouldn't. it's very normal to want to know if you're starting a long term venture properly because it is, after all a lengthy endeavor. i think you'll find people who actually finish their work end up with a greater sense of pride regardless of if it blows up or not, so i don't think your premise is entirely correct anyway. i legitimately think it has more to do with those initial moments of lack of commitment and uncertainty. it's also healthy to want to know what others think because there is definitely such a thing as getting too high on your own farts, so to say.
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>>25323314
I'm a zoomer and I write for myself and rarely share my work with friends, let alone attempting to get it published (although I will try properly one day).
What is it with boomers making generalised opinions about a whole generation based on a handful of shitposters??
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>>25325378
>why are you saying things based on concrete evidence and proof?
makes you think



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