Brutal.
>>25324849Shakespeare wrote more than one story AND finished all his stories
>>25324849Didn't Miura literally state that Berserk is a loose adaptation of Macbeth?See also: Throne of Blood by Akira Kurosawa.
Berserk is trash for 14 year olds
>>25324873*outside of the golden age arc, which is kino
>>25324849*nonchalantly fist folios u*
>>25324876kinda true but isnt the golden age arc like half of the manga
>>25324873This >>25324876I fucking hate the way tranime users say "arc". It is so supremely autistic.
>>25324876Yeah such kino>let me just pull this super secret uptra slash and cut off the arm of a flying minotaur>i am le realistic protagonist, watch me kill 100 armed men on my own>duuuuude le daaark le raaape XDIt's for 13 year olds. You have to be retarded to think such garbage has any literary value.
>>25324974cope, shakespeare was against plumbers
My barber recommended me Berserk for the second or third time the last time I got a cut. Kinda wishing he'd take the hint.
>>25325020everyone hates berserk until they actually read it, trust me i've been there
i don't even know what image is supposed to conveypeople like shakespeare for social proof reasons?
>>25324869>wroteExactly. Manga is a visual medium & Miura was never particularly verbose. Also INK & PAPER Miura was great at expressing emotions through his drawings, as sort of visual poetry often.
>>25324974sounds gay
>>25325085I liked it ok until I read past the golden age part. It's clear, especially when you consider the deleted chapter, that he had no idea where to take or wrap up the story. The art is nice but the meaning of the work itself is expressed better elsewhere, and with less sociopathic self indulgence. Berserk fans tend to actually embody the stereotype of Blood Meridian fans eye em oh.Also the author was a pedophile fuck him.
>>25325193>Also the author was a pedophileSource?
>>25325196you know this is not true because otherwise it wouldn't be reddit's #1 manga of choice
>>25325196He made a separate comic with pedo shit in it.
>>25325207>it's imaginarySo he's not a pedo then?
Having read every single panel of Berserk I have to say, the golden age arc anime was more than enough.
>>25325291the next arc where he fights the ant bitch in the forest was also good, after that it becomes a poorly written final fantasy team RPG
>>25325223no, you're just retarded
>>25324873I couldn't finish it. I didn't understand the hype over its so-called moral grayness or gruesomeness. I'm not a massive McCarthy fan at all but Berserk felt like Thomas the Tank Engine compared to BM. I knew something was up when so many balding anime neckbeards wouldn't shut up about it.>>25325184You have never lived with a woman who wasn't mommy and it shows.
>>25324973anime dorks are perennially insecure about their total lack of academic rigor found in liberal arts/humanities so they constantly make up random ad hoc terms to seem le smart and le scientific
>>25325926>I couldn't finish itno one can lmao not even the author
>>25324849Macbeth was never my favorite tragedy but Berserk is designed for manchildren that spend more money on action figures than books>>25324872No, he figuratively stated it
>>25324876>outside of the golden age arcTotal cope.
I'm so glad I stopped watching anime/reading manga. Complete junkfood made for gullible bugs that literally do not know any better. I didn't lose my virginity until my early 20s and I bet I coulda lost it in high school if it weren't for these poisonous, emotionally shallow cartoons.
>>25325951some are worth watching/reading
>>25325955Name them, I bet I'll have seen a few and will still be glad to have gotten rid of them
>>25325960i'm not the biggest weeb but if i had to keep a very small set of anime/manga i would never get rid of texhnolyze, jin-roh, blame and monster probably. anything else i watched is mostly entertainment or not unique but it's pretty old stuff. otherwise i agree that most of the popular stuff is garbage, and yes i know, anime website and everything
>>25325960Ghost in the shell.
>>25325960Zatch Bell.
>>25326180I've seen the 1995 movie which is pretty good (doesn't compare to any serious philosophy or philosophical novel though), I watched a good handful of Stand alone Complex and thought it was mid, couldn't finish it.>>25326195Never heard of it but I'm sure it goes hard if you're 11.
>>25324849I know it's inspired directly by Nietzsche, but the idea of evil is such a brilliant concept for a fantasy series, and frankly for any series. It's just great. It's a real pity we'll never see what Miura wanted to do with it.
>>25325960bebop is good, doesn't sound like you've learned shit if you're discrediting your past like that
>>25326350I've seen Cowboy Bebop multiple times. It's one of the good ones, sure, it's still riddled with infantilizing clichés I can't stand.>doesn't sound like you've learned shit if you're discrediting your past like thatIt's called ditching the manchild hobbbies and growing up, you'll understand when you're older and finally nab a fully developed frontal lobe.
>>25326354Ha, sounds more like repressing yourself to seem like an adult. Don't be dumb and pretend to be someone else, you'll never love yourself like that. You sound so angry about it
>>25326365I know this is hard for you to handle but 99.9% of anime is geared towards stunted adolescents and most normal people grow out of it. Victimhood will not save you.
>>25325960Give Bokutachi ga Yarimashita a read. The execution is a bit sloppy and uneven and it's juvenile and what not, but it's genuinely a great work of art.
>>25325941Did he ever mention why? Haven't paid attention to him in years.>>25326316>I know it's inspired directly by Nietzsche,Do you know which books in particular? Will to Power would be my guess.>>25326365>You sound so angry about itHe doesn't sound angry at all. You sound like you're insecure and projecting, thougbeitever.
>>25324849Go Back
>>25326369Every man is a boy deep inside. Playfulness and innovation go hand in hand. Adulthood is defined by doing many things you dislike doing on purpose, but that requires acknowledging that you dislike those things. That way, you are actively going against the current, rather than letting it carry you, even if it were to carry you into a financially successful career. We may compromise with our childhood dreams, but if we abandon them utterly, we are nothing, and truly become no better than a child letting itself be shaped by its context.Do you not like the rev on a car's engine? Does a row of plastic figurines being pushed on a game board into firing position not make you giddy? Do you believe that you are always rational when talking to other people, without some sort of freudian transference inevitably occuring without your intent? What thoughts go through your mind as you fall asleep, is it not all the fun times you've had, and hopes for fun times you could have? Life must be awfully boring once you 'grow out of' enjoying yourself.
>>25326398real playfulness exists in literature, not pornographic cartoons for khhvs
>>25326404Unfortunatley, this will leave you unable to relate to the 99% of human population which doesn't read.
>>25326398jesus fucking christ dude, you want to sound wise so bad. are you even 21?
>>25326411I don't know, can you be a snotty asshole while also encouraging diegesis?
>>25326408no shit retard, first time on the board? no go back.
>>25326415ahh I see, not even 18 lmao
Ban weebs from /lit/
>>25326398>Adulthood is defined by doing many things you dislikeYou're underaged so how would you know
>>25326408you say this like it's a bad thing. taking anything in life more serious than a fucking video game youtube essay will leave you unable to relate to loads of automatons and drones too
>>25326417I mean, sure gatekeeping is a good thing, but turning your hobby into a total circlejerk doesn't seem very productive. Who wants to spend their life reading books about books about books about books, when they could just read books, or better yet, live what the books are about, so that they can write anything worthwhile themselves, instead of more books about books? Why can't you guys be more like Hrabal and care for the common retard? Appreciate his entertainment for what it is? How do you hope to make anything of human condition if you banish most of what it is truly human from your thoughts? That weakness of character, the tropes, the inclinations towards archetypes and common narratives, and the way that popular fiction changes over time, all this can teach you a lot.But, of course, that requires humility, rather than being a pretentious elitist stuck in a human centipede with all the other academics.
didnt read
>>25326462You don't read, you don't watch anime, do you do anything but post on 4chan about things you don't do?
>>25326382>Do you know which books in particular?Mostly Beyond Good and Evil and On the Genealogy of Morality. Miura gave a metaphysical spin to Nietzsche's idea that evil is a historical construction to explain why we suffer, specifically the slave. We suffer because there's such thing as evil. The genius of Miura, I think, from a narrative aspect, was to poke into what would be the implications if we took this literally, that evil was indeed invented by humans to explain suffering and now the fate of humanity revolves around evil because we put it at the center of creation as the force that determines our lives.
>>25326365>Ha, sounds more like repressing yourself to seem like an adultNot at all, I've always preferred reading books to manga, that preference simply magnified substantially with age.>Don't be dumb and pretend to be someone elseI don't think I am but thank you for the wisdom.>You sound so angry about itI am feeling a little frustrated, but not at myself, but at the plastic, hollow, infantilizing culture of anime/manga/video games/whatever that prioritizes corny sentimentality. 99 percent of the time it just feels like playing with toddler toys. And I'm also frustrated with how many 30+ year olds are satisfied with these things. It's like that famous poem about the best minds of a generation being lost, can't help but feel a little strongly about it all.
>doesn't remember Ginsberg>calls other people underagethese are the people who don't want you to post anime on an anime website btw
>>25324849>>25324872Berserk is inspired by horrorslop from the 80s like Evil Dead II and Hellraiser
>>25326490Don't you think that's a bit reductive? That stuff disappears pretty soon, and gives you a ten books of grounded realistic medieval drama instead.
>>25326495>Don't you think that's a bit reductiveNo
>>25325960death note is brilliant in an aesthetic sense
Slug Baron arc was kino.
>>25325951>shits on the medium like a retard>starts talking about getting laid out of the blueMen can't lose virginity, you don't have hymen you feminized faggot.
>>25326454>that requires humility, rather than being a pretentious elitistWhere do you think you are?
>>25326604you have never lived with a woman who wasn't mommy and you never will
>>25326382>Did he ever mention why? Haven't paid attention to him in years.he died
>>25326691>deflectsI can smell your weak faggot posture.
>>25326590The revelation that his wife worshipped Satan was great.
At some point, it gets annoying how the author keeps using rape for shock value.
>>25327173>rape for shock valueHe doesn't though.
>>25327197There are a few points. Like in the trolls arc.
>>25327197I hate the misuse of the word edgy but Berserk is genuinely edgy
>>25324849maybe it's the medium of manga itself, but I am just past the early church arc of berserk and don't exactly have a desire to keep reading. I do not believe it's anything more than entertainment and if I'm reading for entertainment I'd rather read a novel for fun. I don't know. people talk about Berserk like it's something more but I'm starting to think it's just tranime losers and such screeching as always
Macbeth is unironically better.
>>25327333The truly great part is the insanely long flashback leading up to the Eclipse.
>>25326772you will never have sex
>>25327197hahahahahahahahahahaha. very good!
>>25327334no shit and its not even that good kek
>>25326464>Miura gave a metaphysical spin to Nietzsche's idea that evil is a historical construction to explain why we sufferSo did Heidegger and Nishitani, I'll stick with them instead
>>25326604lmao you are literally projecting and insecure. sorry the world is finally waking up to the fact that almost all anime is for permanent adolescents kek
>>25324849>Mid-tier Shakespeare mogs High-tier manga
>>25327386>permanent adolescents kek>kekHehe.
>>25327391>literally not an argumentkek
>>25326479>can't refute any real arguments>make pedantic remark about minute point and hope no one notices
>>25325858No, I think you're just a retard who thinks loli/shota-fags are pedophiles while you do nothing against pedophiles who actually harm real people.
>>25324973I mean how would you refer to the different parts of the storyline?
>>25327779>t. Lacari
>>25326762Then why didn't he just ghostwrite it?
>>25327801a "close friend" is continuing the story with his team but it's taking a long ass time and i stopped reading it. it's been like 5 years and we got 10 chapters or something
>>25325960Utena (show and movie)The World is MineKino's Journey (2003 show)Mushi-Shi (show)
>>25327807This. Like can these fucking things come out sooner? Also Miura had so much shit to flesh out even beyond The Idea of Evil. We will probably never get Zodd's backstory.
>>25327889i made peace with it, i realized i wasn't even enjoying it that much after the rebirth of griffith and the priest guy arc and that was already more than 20 years ago i think
>>25324849Coonsumer slop
Berserk is a shit rip off of the movie Flesh and Blood. Shakespeare's work is all a rip off but it is way better than Berserk slop. If Shakespeare ripped off Flesh and Blood it would be kino instead of dialogue from cartoon network
>>25327946this
>>25324873>>25324974its fun. not everything has to be academic masturbation you joyless cunts
>>25328310It's not even that
>>25328310youre fat
>>25324849That guy who has one of the largest private collection of books on youtube actually has a limited edition omnibus copy of Berserk that made its way into his "rarest books I own" video as well as some sort of Naruto vinal audiobook thingy.
>>25324849Did anyone else get put off by the pace of the arc where the inquisitors do shit? The retarded comedy and "team dynamics" made me remember the Japanese are man children. The golden age arc is probably the best Japan has ever put out in comic form tho.
>>25328691I'm going through those arcs, and it really feels like the story is falling off. Endless gore and rape are not making up for it. Also, I feel it was a bad decision to bring Griffith back after the Eclipse.
>>25324876This. Don't bother reading Berserk, just watch the 1997 anime adaptation of the Golden Age instead. >>25324964No, the Golden age arc is 11 volumes, the whole manga is currently 43 volumes.
>>25328691Same, I stopped reading half way through the Conviction Arc.
>>25326582what does "aesthetic sense" mean
>>25324873/thread
>>25328310I agree but there's a pretty large community of people trying to make it academic
>>25326454>how do you do fellow readersGo back.
It's embarrassing that anons post slop like this on this board and expect to be taken seriously. Please go back to /a/ and /v/.
>>25324876Unironically think Millennium Falcon is up there and even the boat arc is really fun when binge read and then Fantasia was getting really good once they reached the Island.
>>25324974>realistic protagonistwho cares? Macbeth wasn't realistic either
>>25330744i think he's saying the fanbase insists Guts is realistic despite his anime ballerina shenanigans
