in all possible meaning of the phrase, it is true, ethically, metaphysically, politically, it could not be any other way anyway
>>25326972Op is a faggot, in all possible meaning of the phrase, it is true, ethically, metaphysically, politically, it could not be any other way anyway
>die of a diseaseuh oh
>>25326972why even keep the concept of 'right' in that case?
What is might anon? Strength comes in various different forms and in different contexts. You may be able to kick the everloving shit out of a snotty bureocrat or HR worker but they could reduce your salary or sneakiky get you kicked out of your job at any moment as well. A cop may have legal authority over most but he might be somewhat helpless in some mexican cartel's territory. You might be able to sue a girl and fuck her over but you wont because shes too hot and manipulates your ass very easily with her snatchMight is too transient and context sensitive to be an imperative of righteousness in most circunstances but this might be productive if OP bothers to define what it is
>>25326972Ok*Drops you into the Sun*
>>25326972Might does indeed control everything.
>>25326972Hmm, that might be.
>>25327031why not both, the monopoly of violence and intellect, people or states, societies, etc who know how to use violence appropriately decide what is right, not always but at the height of their hegemony, this is true of most famous empires and nation builders
Might is right loses to right is right, even if might is right is right, 'might is right' as a belief is less mighty than other ethics. So to believe in might is right is not mighty.
>>25326972Interestingly, Right also makes Might. Those with will to Truth and will to the Good are simply more powerful because they understand reality better and can organize themselves more efficiently. It is why humans are mightier than any other apex predator: they can rationalize and organize. Societies that do not hold to these principles can be remarkably strong and stable, but if given enough time and competition, will always be out competed by societies that value truth and can maintain justice. Nietzsche acknowledges this by admitting that pure master morality, the 'blonde beast', is ultimately stupid and doomed to be defeated by slave morality. any interesting man, any progress towards a higher being, will have to come from the struggle between the two.
>conquer a territory>declare that water boils at 8 degrees
Yes! Might is Right!If you take the meaning of Right as the one in human right, or individual right, Right which means ~= being entitled to own something, being justified in using force to get to it, then Might is Right is true, because you own things by violence. Asking for Rights, asking for stuff--negotiations--, are always basically parties, with interests, that figure out what they can get to with their might. Now, human rights, are a collective claim, and so the might use to enforce them is collective as well, collective force, this is the might of democracy, Democracy is a system which is 'might makes right'-istETHICALLYMight also makes Right, but 'Right' now means 'Good', 'morally correct'. Why? Because Aristotle is based, and teleology is based as fuck. So Humans, as Lifeforms, have a Telos similar to all other animals, to persist, to continue existing. Given this task which falls from necessity, we might wonder, "Hey! How do I live and continue living?", to which the answer comes, you guessed it, get Mighty my Man! With might you guarantee *Choice* over your life, if you have choice over your life, control over your life, then the passing on of your genes is not left to some *other* arbitrary Will. The family and races who cultivate might guarantee their livelihood, the communities who cultivate devotion to some strange other thing are going to arbitrarily periodically die for that ideal, biologically this just creates stagnation of genes, a random development, it is a failure mode to concentrate on some other thing than might. Might I would try to define as: properties that increase your ability to choose and combat necessity(??)Might can be physical (muscles=more choices), or mental (fortitude=more resistance to emotions/passions=more choice); proper(your own strength, intellect, the gun in your hand) or borrowed(someone obeys you)Your inherent strength is to be preferred to any type of borrowed external strength, which is less certain to remain yours.>>25327031Brutes are usually weak in the mental fortitude department>>25326990The point of Might Makes Right arguments are indeed to make you notice that the 'Right Path' is not disjointed from the 'Might Path', but It is not I who put 'Principle against Self-Interest'The world has languished long enough under the tyranny of thought, under the terrorism of ideas; she is waking from the heavy dream, and the day of joyful self-interest follows. She is ashamed of the contradiction in which the church, the state and the philosopher held her captive, the contradiction they placed between self-interest and principle . As if one could have a principle in which he had no interest, an interest that didn’t become for the moment a principle. But you should, you must have a “pure” principle, self-interest is “dirty.” You must only behave “philosophically” or “critically”; otherwise you are a “clumsy,” “crude,” “random,” “particular” subject. — Stirner, Philosophical Reactionaries
>>25326972GaWD I want to fuck james and mpregnate him so badly and subjugate him to my cock
>oh look another thread of pasty virgins pretending to read books
This thread is amusing because I read OP's posts in James's voice.
>>25327979you aren't mightier than nature albeit
>>25328104Sorry anon these are all wrong, it's like evolutionary psychology (which is itself more than dubious) stripped of any altruistic traits, which obviously lowers your chances of survival.>actually altruism is part of being mightyNope
>>25326972.....but then you have to give up Nazism? Also then I guess the "Jews" are right???
>>25327979yes this can be done, it's called a standard, you can make a thermometer calibrated to measure boiling water at 8 degrees, did any of you retards pay attention in physics class?
>>25326972>it could not be any other way unless the gods existhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds&ra=m
>>25326972Might is made possible through economics.
>>25326972You should worship God then, since metaphysically speaking, God is the most powerful possible being.
>>25326972All right Thrasymachus, chill the fuck out.
more of a commitment to determinism than an ethical stance
>>25329458Determinism is undeniable to anyone with even a basic understanding of physics and biology
>>25328104Might is evidence of right. Right can’t be evidence of might, because what is right belongs to itself categorically and discloses itself present-at-hand. Might reiterates right like an echo, as it’s prima facie meaning. Might isn’t right but a pale imitation. Only the winner could truly apprehend right.
>>25326972I often wonder if James was aware of the necessity of his role as the "bad guy"/black tile ("to denounce the evils of truth and love", e.g. explore the necessity of contrast within the totality). Jesse obviously was getting off on the bad-bitch persona but really she was secretly just trying to impress James who always had something of a cool detachment. I could be said that Team Rocket is a representation of the age-of-quantity conception of conquest i.e. penetration of a straight line indefinitely ("to extend our reach to the stars above" what better symbol for this than the techno-phallus of a rocket)
Alone manages to make the might makes right story too interesting
>>253269721984 is utopia then for you. What a retard opinion.
I have no idea why this obviously true statement gets certain IQ ranges so angry>>25328295>>25331126these aren't normal responses
>>25331130Because it is not obviously true, retard, it is just ooga buuga mentality that can be used to justify monstrous behavior that is obviously wrong. Do you support rape as well? Sub 100 IQ asshat.
>>25327031I came here to post the first 80% of this. There is no additional righteousness beyond transient and context-sensitive might. Trying to insist that there is, is its own form of complex trickery which powerfully appeals to people without any might, while conveniently giving them an excuse as to the patheticness of their existence.
>>25331144>>25328104>>25327031>>25326972>People can never be wrong about what is best for them. >Therefore if they force their own way towards whatever it is that they currently desire, this is best for them.The problem is that the premise is clearly false. People, including the mighty, are frequently wrong about what is best for them and filled with regret. It simply doesn't follow from the fact that the mighty can force their way to what *appears* best to them that this is *truly* what is best.But if the mighty can be in error about what is best, which they surely can, then they can clearly be wrong about what is good, for error is contrary to truth. Wherefore Solomon points out that wisdom is to be valued above all the treasures of the Earth, since being able to do things is useless without knowing what is truly worthy of choice.Note also that the mighty are often the worst slaves, slaves to vice.
>>25326972not as much fun when your rulers have the same ethos
>>25326972Weirdly no one ever says this when they're locked in my basement being broken to their concubinage.It's always omg help, how could you do this, someone will help me.If you'd like to try your luck post address and what times you usually sleep
