The more philosophy I read the more sense it makes to claim cinema is not art. It's technology. Literature possesses the copula that connects one representation to another. The sequentiality of film lacks this. The director's subjectivity cannot attach conditions to an editing cut. It is the heart of the viewing public that establishes continuity between shots.Film is technology precisely because of its failure to operate as a self-contained and self-referential medium. In the sense that it opens a space of contact for humanity to think of its relationship to technology and nature as a recompense of sorts for its inability to secure a hermeneutic contract with the viewer. All cinematic production is inherently impersonal.
>>25329088>self-contained>self-referentialneither is literature
>philosophy Humanities, not lit. You want /his/
>>25329088The medium is the message, so I'm not sure what you're expecting.
>>25329088I agree. I’ve had a very strict definition of art that I’ve been slowly polishing over the years, and no matter how I cut it, film just doesn’t fit the bill. Neither does architecture btw.
>>25329088That's some new brand of pseudary right there
>>25329088Meme answer: it's art.Serious answer: the time when it kept pace with evolving self-conscious is over. It could be argued this has always been a struggle but the rate isn't diminishing. >if comedy is last then comedy results in dissolution >dissolution of dissolution isn't a register>a new form of all encompassing art will emerge
>>25329088why cant cinema represent subjectivity, exactly? is there any meaningful difference between cinema and painting, in terms of their capacity for representing the objective and the internal? you can use lenses, filters and editing creatively to film something in a non-representative way. and people used to paint in a highly representative way (but nobody would reasonably claim that those paintings arent art).
sophistry only real when shared
I couldn't care less about the question "what is art" that said you might be interested in Deleuze's work on cinema.
>>25331045https://www.arasite.org/cinema1.htmlhttps://www.arasite.org/cinema2.html
>>25329088>Literature possesses the copula that connects one representation to another.IN THE MIND OF THE READER>It is the heart of the viewing public that establishes continuity between shots.I.E. THE MIND OF THE VIEWERyou need some phenomenology in your life dumb bitch nigger
>>25329088Ebert's spinning in his grave
>>25329088You're wrong and I will fight you to the death about it.
>>25331496Ebert sure talked a lot of shit while he was alive. Let him spin.
>>25329088switch philosophy with poetry and your comment goes from 105 IQ to at least 120
>>25331045"what is art" is a question only gamers ask because they're the only ones who never seem to encounter art kek
>>25329088sure
