Is love the only way out of this hellhole called life?
>>25332760no. the trap is that the most beautiful thing you can experience is just an illusion to get you to create life that can suffer. "love" is the only reason this hellhole can be lived in. sorry.
>>25332760only if you consider coping a way out.
You forgot >books for this feel
Been in 4 relationships and I've never felt something like that.
you need a little more imagination and more risk taking in your life if you think life is all about love, maybe stop reading romance slop
>>25332760Yes. Read Plato
>>25332760This painting is shit. Why can't anyone paint like Michelangelo anymore?
>>25332760Quite literally, yes.
Yes, agape.
>>25332760>lovelmaodude fell for it
>>25332760Lol for many it makes it worse
>>25332984>>25333131OP didn't necessarily mean romantic love
>>25332760I've only felt one-sided love where it genuinely feels like a life-affirming thing but it's never worked out. I don't think it's real. I'm in my thirties and I've never ever been in a relationship.
>>25332760Wait until your loved one dies or leaves you. The grandiose pain of love-loss makes the suffering of life even more unbearable. You will wish you would had stayed away from it from the start.
>>25332760There's no way out but love makes it bearable.
>>25332760no, death is the only way out of life. that seems self evident.what book or author are we discussing self evident.
>>25332760Mmmm sort of. It's the only thing that redeems life, and can only be accessed imperfectly. I've been deeply, mutually in love and nothing can compare. I've probably got a miserable 30-40 years ahead of me, and we aren't together anymore, but having loved like that makes it infinitely more bearable than it was before. And that's just finite human love. Love doesn't let you escape life, it sanctifies it. And God is infinite love.
>>25334490>Godwhich one?
>>25334530The one
>>25332776idk, my impulse to fuck is for reproduction, but I'm not interested in reproducing and fucking still feels good. Even if love is an illusion you can still enjoy it and let it give meaning to your piss life
>>25334543Oh that one?
>>25332760Yes, love is the only illusion that we all mutually agree is an absolute in this existence.
>>25334550yeah, i mean i guess life can be as meaningful as you want as long as you deceive yourself
Love is the law, love under will.I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union.The fat bald fuck was full of shit, but some things he got right.
>>25334584yeah, I get it but I don't really see it as deception for myself. I had a fling for a while last year, it was the first one in a long ass time where I actually felt elated. Ultimately I realized this wasn't the right person for me and ended it, but those few months of honeymoon phase were truly special for me. Music sounded better, poems hit harder, first time in a long time I was really feeling love-like feelings. I probably projected my ideal person onto this girl to get that way but idk, was that all meaningless? In the moment it was real. The sadness that came with ending it was it's own separate experience. I don't know where the line would be to determine whether what I got out of that was real or just deception. I choose to think it's real and meaningful. I know that I don't want to reproduce, my goal is just to feel love I guess and I got that for a bit.
>>25332760Suicide by cop is still #1
>>25332760No! Love is a mental illness. Art can make life bearable. But there's no way out.
>>25332760Yes, but love as in compassion for all life.
>>25332760I simply can't feel love. Idek what it's like
>>25332760Love is temporary escape, like drugs or eating. Arts and sciences and using your prefrontal cortex as much as possible...is the only true way to live.
>>25334584By that definition whatever "hard truths" you cling to are also deceptions.
love is not cope!love is not cope. love is a kind of collaborative production. together you're producing a mysterious month, a mysterious year. your lover hauls to the construction site heavy slabs of childhood memory, glittering trinkets she'll explain later, random trash she has a plan for. you build a sexy hot-tub zone and she fills it with plaster venus di milos. you lose her in a subterranean tunnel system she had excavated without your knowledge. the two of you start to feel more like urban planners than contractors, raising from the dirt not a shrine or a house but a whole metropolis, populated by your various selves - past, present, imagined, parodic. you demolish an ugly factory. you strike gold; you uncover a skeleton. your roof falls in. birds nest in your rafters. together you look from your window at the dark woods beyond, awaiting the strange love-gods to emerge and speak their unalterable doom. here they are, and they have spoken. now it's time to down tools and depart that place forever. only a ruin remains. but aren't ruins the end result of all human action?life is desire and production and nothing else. love is no more a cope to escape the limits of your existence than building is a cope to escape ruination.
>>25334749i'm imagining shaggy singing the text of your post over the boombastic instrumental. i'm on the point of tears.
>>25334740Based
>>25335193Beautiful
>>25334604>Love is the lawIt's the 2nd, actually. Free Will is 1st
>>25335193This has been stuck in my head the last couple of hours. What are your favorite non-fiction books? I would like to read them.
>>25334490I know that feel bro. I remember the first time I was loved. Even after it ended, my outlook was forever brightened. Not only because I know it's possible, but because it is just a great experience to have memory of.
>>25335142not wrong.
>>25335193Very romantic and beautifully written. However most lovers don't leave anything of worth behind. At most they only consume, especially in this day and age.
>>25335767I don't think anon meant it that way
>>25332760Yes. Love is a monster that demands absolute obedience, or else it will condemn you to suffer in its absence.
>>25335778I didn't mean literally
>>25332850That's just NPD. Forget about the murdered wives. It's the murderers who are the real victims. The victims of loving too much. The narcissism reeks. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so horrific.
>>25332760Yes.
>>25332760there's no way out. love is what creates this mess in the first place.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA&ra=m
>>25332760You've been psyopped if you think love comes from women
>>25332760Are you sure you are worth love? That there is someone capable of loving you when even your mother can't do that?
