where does the Harry Potter series rank among YAlit?
>>25334995>Snape ejaculated
>>25334995harry potter was supposed to have been snapes son
>>25334995>trannies are erasing REAL womanhood! we must protect femininity! men are NOT women and women are NOT men>just won against trannies, here's a photo of me smoking a cigar (traditional emblem of masculinity) and drinking a whiskey on the rocks (traditional emblem of masculinity) to project power and dominance (masculine character traits)Fascinating woman.
>>25334995The harry potter books were definitely ghost-written. Even if you hate trannies, JK Rowling is just such an evil bitch. I refuse to believe someone so evil wrote those moral lessons in Harry Potter.
>>25334995Its alright. Would be better with an actual message beyond "love conquers all" but they're decent reads for children.
It doesn't on account of not being YA.
>>25335174Despite engaging in traditionally masculine acts she's still a woman. Do you think that maybe could have been her point you troon midwit?
>>25335241>ching chong>centaur rape>werewolf HIV>slavery has meritsShe has always been a bigot. Milder version back then, more extreme MAGA version now after participating in the blood orgy.
>>25335260All I'm saying is it's a weird way to make the point. One of her arguments is "trannies aren't women because they exhibit masculine traits," so it seems like she thinks exhibiting masculine traits is proof of someone's real gender. But here she is, exhibiting masculine traits. It's a bit like saying "Pittsburgh Steelers fans can't be trusted because they're inherently violent," winning a footrace against a Steelers fan, and then celebrating by posting a picture of yourself brandishing firearms with an angry look on your face>>25334995But to bring the discussion back to books, you can't deny Harry Potter's influence. She's one of the all-time greats for her influence alone, even though there are much, much better YA books (The Chocolate War comes to mind) than Harry Potter. Always appreciated how the series got darker as it progressed, though
>>25335316You're intentionally misunderstanding her point because you are a tranny.I don't like her either but her point is and always has been that trannies aren't women because they are men. You're just coping and it's obvious.
>>25335330I'm not even a tranny kek. You can still hate trannies and acknowledge that this JK Rowling picture is pretty funny given her ideas about trannies
>>25334995Most any YA is better than HP.
>>25335174Correct, except everybody knows that putting ice on whiskey is for consoomer brand and ”masculinity” chasing retards with palatte and patience of a toddler.
Harry Potter is actually an astonishing achievement. Seven books published over ten years that tell one story with a beginning, middle, and end, and without retcons. The planning is so impressive.
>>25335362>and without retconsRetcons would have improved that shitshow since introducing truth serum alone creates enough plot holes that the story practically becomes a Menger sponge, to say nothing of the fucking time travel.
>>25335174Ruining a nice whiskey by diluting it with ice is for women and faggots
>>25334995What is it about these children's fantasy books that caused millennials, women in particular, to make them their entire personalities even well into adulthood? I never understood why HP in particular
>>25334995>Hook nosed, amoral banking goblins offering services to genocidal lunatics>The elites are both evil and useless>Main cast entirely white>Blatantly racist names for minorities "Oh no Ching Chong Chang is the bad one". "Kingston Shacklewog is here"Very 4chan
>>25335362I don't really care and I'm never going to read these books again, but I have a hard time believing that anything after at least the 3rd book wasn't heavily ghostwritten. Probably had a fucking team on it.
>>25335377Consumerism replaced religion and all I got was this shirt.
>>25335362>Evil wizard kills family.>Can't kill boy because love conquers all>Boy grows up>Evil wizard tries to kill him again>Can't kill boy because love conquers all>Evil wizard comes back to life>Evil wizard tries to kill him again>Aha now I can get around love conquering all because *insert never before mentioned macguffin*>I see your macguffin and raise you a deus ex machina>Can't kill boy because love conquers all>Government somehow doesn't notice evil wziard taking over the government>How did that happen? Who cares. Here's a funny word.>Have to destroy these pieces of evil wizard's soul>Oh wait, the boy is the last piece. Why? Because we all know Hollywood will pick it up at this point>Boy sacrifices himself but wait - it's not a deus ex machine if you introduce the gates of heaven and have a conversation there, even though this has never been mentioned before.>Boy comes back to life>Kills evil wizard>Has family>Names child after "man who was a creepy, noncey, dick but was really good deep down"Yeah man IDK how they kept track of it.
>>25335338Once again you are intentionally misunderstanding her. Too bad you're not a tranny cause it makes you look even stupider.
>>25335330>I don't like her either but her point is and always has been that trannies aren't women because they are men.This is disingenuous. Her point is that trannies should have legal rights stripped away from them because she personally thinks that they are men.Most people don't think trannies are women, most people aren't weird about it and don't make it 80% of their personality. Because most people aren't autistic.
>>25335174Lel>>25334995It always seemed overly childish when I was a kid, and now I consider YA basically worthless as a whole.
>>25335426I hate JerKoff Rowling and terfs are insane evil cunts but this is a disgustingly disingenuous frame. You are a liar.
>>253354269/10 but I'm still not falling for it
>>25335377>YA, so the prose is easy to read>the four houses varying by personality appeals to people's fantasies (which house would you get into)>bullied outcast is actually super special person>all the lame shit in school is thrown out for cool magic shitit's really the ultimate fantasy for bored school children. the prose is accessible for all ages and the characters age into drama shit which women eat up
>>25335433>I hate JerKoff Rowling and terfs are insane evil cunts but this is a disgustingly disingenuous frame. You are a liar.It's an entirely honest frame. Everyone in the UK knows the Supreme Court made the wrong decision, mostly by just pretending Article 8 shouldn't factor in to their decision making process.
>>25334995Kinda fucking bad, but honestly very foundational to what YA is. The whole genre is essentially just re-using the elements that gave harry potter such a stranglehold on a generation of kids: a relatable outsider kid enters into a wish-fulfilment world with some kind of clique-based categorization they have to navigate, and some kind of power or talent to daydream about, until it turns out theyre special in some way that makes them destined to defeat the big bad. I think this also does not really redeem it. Harry Potter is ass, YA is ass, and so Harry Potter has been a great influence on a whole lot of books that made the world a worse place. And because kids feel like they should be reading these books that are for 'their age', and because 'serious' literature is not approached naturally anymore but only exists for them as boring homework, they are drawn to YA rather than any real literature they are perfectly capable of reading.
>>25334995They are shit.>>25335174Trannies are the most incoherent creatures to ever exist. If gender is subjective then there no such things as masculine or feminine traits. If masculine or feminine traits exist then gender is tied to sex.
>>25335485You can't logic them out of a position they didn't logic themselves into. No point in trying, just laugh at them.
>>25335485I dont think transgender people think 'gender is subjective,' in the sense that its just a thing you can change on a whim. Its obviously its something they struggle with a long time to transition from the one or the other. I think defining it as a set of traits rather than unified essence you have or you dont is a useful framing. Masculine and Feminine traits exist and are often tied as much to cultural (mannerisms, dress) as biological factors (bodily appearance), both of which require effort to change but can indeed be changed. If people want to adopt different traits and then they put in a lot of effort to adopt those different traits, whats even the problem?
>>25335121>late teenslol ok
>>25334995I'm not allowed to take the piss out of her shit books anymore cuz everyone will call me a tranny.9/10 for her PR people
>>25334995I feel like it has earned its place in the upper echelons of YA...we're talking YA lit so not like it's super prestigious or a terribly high bar to clear. It's great for what it is and easy to enjoy even for people outside of the target demographic, which is about as good as you can expect from YA.
>>25335469/thread It wouldn't be so bad if they all didn't fail to jettison it as they aged. The harpies who run the world all love(d) Harry Potter and Rowling rules us through them.
high, and deservedly so.btw, any of you bums have read the so-called interactive editions? I bought the ones that have already been published, and I think they're surprisingly good.stupendous for kids. at least JK completed it, unlike that obese cock-fondler whose series is still so frequently drooled over.
>>25334995For a 7-volume series, it's remarkable consistent and satisfying in its conclusion. Rowling, unlike the majority of modern authors, never forgot that her one and only job is to tell the best story possible. Her talent and her ambition were matched and she produced something that struck a chord with kids and teens all over the world. It's hard to argue with the results.
>>25335696>obese cock-fondleryou'll need to be more specific
>>25335702He means me
>>25335261>centaur rape>werewolf HIVAre you on heavy drugs?
>>25335485For me, they only want to try a different type of masturbation.
>>25335362>>25334995>>25335701100%The Harry Potter series is the most enjoyable fiction of the modern era.Most of the film adaptations did it justice as well, especially Sorcerer's Stone, Goblet, Half Blood, & Deathly Hollows.There's also a general filter for crazy people: if they don't let their kids read Harry Potter.
Why are there so many leftists and transmogs on this board? It wasn't like this before.
>>25334995Imagine smoking a Backwoods blunt with JK Rowling and making YWNBAW jokes
>>25335362>>25335701>HP is the only 7=+ YA serieswew lads I get it when it's the only series you read.
without exception every single person i've ever met who's read harry potter is insufferable and loud
>>25334995i would rail the fuck out of this old lady god damn she just has that fuckin look in her face man
>>25335485>Trannies are the most incoherent creatures to ever exist. If gender is subjective then there no such things as masculine or feminine traits. If masculine or feminine traits exist then gender is tied to sex."tied to" is functioning as a weasel phrase here, allowing you to equivocate between saying "correlated with" (which makes the statement true, but not useful to your argument) and "identical to" (which makes the statement useful to your argument, but false).
>>25335827idk what happened either the whole site is becoming more reddit by the day, I guess maybe many of the autists who make up the 4chan's primary userbase have trooned out as autists are wont to do and they're making it everyone's else's problem as troons are wont to do
>>25336507>t. retard
>>25335261Kill yourself tranny faggot
>>25335766No. She herself said that her werewolves were an allegory for AIDS.She also said wizards shit on the spot and use magic to dispose of the waste.People forget that before her tranny "obsession" she just spouted off random-ass facts about HP world. With that in mind, it's easy to see why she shifted her online persona to shitting on the hot button identity politic issue of the month.
>>25334995Twilight as a standalone novel is better, but as a series Harry Potter is the best YA one out there, considering it maintained its quality all thoughout.I'd say the Cruel Prince and Dance of Thieves are at that level, but they are way shorter (3 books the first one and 2 the second one).Absolutely love that series.
>>25336651>as a series Harry Potter is the best YA one out thereNonsense, Narnia clears it readily.
>>25336691>Narnia clears it readily.Also not fucking YA.
>>25336698When talking about YA are we talking about the genre of books that became popular in the late 90s/early 2000s or children's books in general (Tom Sawyer, Treasure Island, Moonfleet, Narnia, The Hobbit, ETC)
>>25335174Dumbest thing I've read in awhile.Troons gonna troon.
>>25336507If gender is not tied to sex why do you need to remove your genitals to validate it?
>>25336938>>25336549nonresponsive. tell me whether you are using "tied to" to mean "correlated with" or "identical to".
>>25336773We are talking about books marketed toward the YA demographic, ie 12-18 year olds. YA does not mean children's book. All YA books are children's books, but not all children's books are YA books.Books like Harry Potter, The Hobbit, and Narnia were aimed at younger children.
>>25335174Rowling has admitted she might have transitioned as a kid. She constantly portrayed women in the HP books as emotional and annoying. She’s deeply frustrated feeling trapped within a female body.
>>25335121I take it that Jane Austen, Nancy Drew, Little House, etc. are all obsolete?
>>25335174Wow, lots of angry seething in the replies
>>25335174>cigarIt's a cigarillo.Picrel is the type of person who smokes a cigar.
>>25334995>"A plot that could have been the most worthless pornography becomes, in Nabokov's hands, a great and tragic love story. I could exhaust my reservoir of superlatives trying to describe the quality of the writing." - J.K. RowlingIs there a more based modern author?
>>25337147Calling you a retard is a response whether you like it or not. Retard.
>>25337832All that does were to demonstrate ignorance by invoking the french and the norman idea to time and the idea to ‘normal time’ >>25334995 Individuals ought to discuss how jk rowling wrote potentially one of the best transformation scenes with that polyjuice potion scene where hermione gets turned into some cat, not everybody was furry At jk rowling and harry mcpot fanclub but there is nah furry smoke smoke without furry smoke but all these individuals were to busy terf’ing out over uteruses and potentially to uncomfortable about these furry aspects to discuss the furry aspect though all these bitches were furries and that was the problem cause the transformation scene were about some cat meanwhile over course all these women that were dogs were gonna get upset at trans individuals just cause cats were around cause dogs are dogs and furthermore and meanwhile dog acquired dog squire and squid ward, furthermore ; and meanwhile: animorphs fans there were nah compunctions about transformation and any of that sort and I would claim animorphs to be probably be or get to be the superior series and that the animorph ghost writer were just higher calibre pessanovante heavy calibre type writer, superior ghost writers to superior series, animorphs more than meets the eye or something like that
>>25339489Too long. Be succinct. And no furries
