Why did literature go from myths to fiction? How did that transition happen? It seems like for most of history no one actually every wrote "stories" like we think of them today. They shared folk tales, myths, and eventually they would write epic poems, histories, etc. But it wasn't understood immediately that the events described didn't happen.Was fiction invented by the Japanese with the Tale of Genji? Did a woman invent it?
>>25336617No.One created the first novel. Not fiction un general.
>>25336617No, OP. Ancient Greek people knew that the talking animals in Aesop's Fables weren't real things that happened.
>>25336617Even discounting poetry and myth, the Satyricon pre-dates Murasaki and Sei-Shonogon by a thousand years
>>25336656There are so many rules and qualifications and definitions that dozens of works get called the first novel.If people don't want Satyricon to have the status they cute that it is disqualified for being incomplete.
>>25336662>cuteUhh I meant cite. No homo.
>>25336662Yes, it’s a exercise in futility to try and argue that any one work is the first of its kind, human experience is not so neatly tied up and partitioned maybe a little homo?
Go back.
>>25336617>>25336656The first Japanese story is Princess Hime from the moon and it was written by a man most likely in the mid-800s satirizing court officials (all the scheming suitors are named after officials of the era). Women didn’t invent anything
every woman who opens her mouth invents fiction
Whether or not it was "the first", The Tale of Genji is no novelty. It's among the finest novels ever penned and you would be missing out to dismiss it for some triviality, especially if you like grand psychological stories a la Proust.
She wrote the first modern novel with the heavy interior lives and complexity of the characters but novels predate her and so does conscious fiction
>>25336617No
>>25336619I think women had a hand in changing the purpose of the written words and that was the cataclysm for the huge massive fuck up we currently exist in.
>>25337252kek /thread
How are myths not fiction? Lmao
This is like when visual novel general pretends that Japan invented the "mystery" genre.
>>25337400People believe they are real, no one believes capeshit characters are real so they're not myths
>>25337400The unreality (>implying) of them is not intentional
>>25336617She invented the Novel, at least in that area.
>>25337897Ok I can go along with this distinction. Then, I’m writing a myth novel.
>>25336617That depends entirely on what you categorise as 'fiction'. Do you mean fiction as in just any fiction? Then we can go back to the 2000's BC to find that, we find short Egyptian stories from the Middle Kingdom and Mesopotamian fiction unconnected to myth if you mean to discount any legendary events. For long fictional stories, they appear in the Late Republic and Early Roman Empire, notably the 2nd century which were not really that different from a novel today, although accounted for their culture.
