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What book made you feel 'well there's nowhere to go but down from here, it can't possibly get better than that'
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>>25336624
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>>25336624
Paradise Lost
Moby-Dick
Gravity's Rainbow
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>>25336672
>Paradise Lost
Shakespeare is better
>Moby-Dick
Why not just read Shakespeare?
>Gravity's Rainbow
This answers my question
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>>25336713
Shakespeare's body of work is better than Milton's, but Paradise Lost is a better work than any single Shakespeare play.
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>>25336713
>Why not just read Shakespeare
because he never wrote prose and reading endless dialogue is gay, perhaps?
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>>25336729
lol no
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>>25336729
Agreed.
>>25336836
Name a Shakespeare play better than paradise lost
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>>25336988
hamlet
tempest
henry iv
henry v
richard iii
lear
ceasar
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>>25336732
>he never wrote prose
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>>25336624
You don't think it would have been improved if an editor had cut down on the obvious Napoleon seething?
Even as an anglo it was distracting.
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>>25337023
napolean seething is good thoughbeit
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It's also Hamlet for me. I don't think anything I've read since has ever been as good, except maybe Dante.
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>>25337056
Actually Evgene Onegin is also up there, unsurpassable.
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>>25337034
Life and Fate does the "take the dictator down a peg" thing without sounding so assmad.
Also a better book.
But no one cares because it doesn't enjoy the halo effect afforded to anything written by a Russian prior to the revolution.
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>>25337076
he never went to war, of course his writing isn't going to be as indignant, he had little skin in the game
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>>25337085
Try reading a book before you critique it.
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>>25337076
It's actually just because it isn't better
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>>25337098
It wasn't a critique
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>>25336668
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The Book of the New Sun. Without narcissism, it just feels like it was written for me. It's a joyous and comforting book, one that I've read dozens of times.

War and Peace is fantastic — I love the part where Pierre rails against the Freemasons and then the next chapter is titled, "Pierre Joins the Freemasons." My favorite Russian epic is still The Brothers Karamazov, though.
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>>25336624
I have been chasing the high I felt after reading The Count of Monte Cristo ever since
Haven't read War and Peace yet but own it to hopefully read this year. I have been told Les Miserables would hit as hard but I don't know
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>>25336624
There are some better and a fair amount as good.
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>>25337553
What in better in your opinion?
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>>25336672
>>25336713
>gravity's rainbow
Kek
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>>25336624
Petersburg.
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>>25336668
>>25337370
mogged by hadji murad
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>>25336624
Three way tie between LOTR, Karamazov, and Blood Meridian
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>>25336624
Not even joking, but 1984 and The Trial made me audibly gasp at their endings. Nothing has come close to either book for me since.

I wish I didn't find Tolstoy and Dostoevsky so mind-numbingly boring...Tolstoy, at the very least, wrote prose like a normal person. Dostoevsky couldn't write a line of human dialogue naturally to save his life, yet he's supposed to be a legendary author?
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>>25336668
Was going to say this
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>didnt readed any bookes since high school
>decide to get back into reading, grab a random romance book off of the /lit/ wiki
>it's >>25336668
>mfw I later realize I accidentally read the greatest novel of all time as the first book of my adult life and the entire arc of my reading experience thereafter will at best be a managed decline
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>>25337422
I think as far as pure entertainment goes Monte Cristo is actually a good shout. It might not be the deepest literature, but it's hard to think of a novel that's more "fun"
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Moby Dick
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>>25336988
Othello
Macbeth
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>>25337370
Great book but Metamorphosis is more or less the same thing as this with better aesthetics.
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>>25338655
nta but never thought of it that way, guess you're onto something
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>>25338655
I've read both & no man, no it is not lol



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