Is it worth it getting an MFA in creative writing? Will it make me a better writer?
How many great works have been written by MFA holders? These programs are among the worst things to happen to literary fiction in the last century.
>>25338674Infinite Jest
>>25338674Flannery O Connor
Everytime I discover someone I like has come through those, I die a little. Biggest literary related EWW for me.
>>25338666I envy you muricans, you basically get NEETbux for 2 years. Just hide your 4chan power level, stay lowkey and write, read, get pussy and network. What is there to lose?
>>25338666No and no.
>>25338710No, no neetbux. You pay tuition (big bucks at an ivy) to bang your head against the wall for 2 years while being told it’s not a trade school and you will be given no advice for how to actually make a living as a writer when you leave.>>25338666It’s a job program for the instructors to have health care
>>25338747Haven’t you heard of fully-funded MFAs?
>>25338755All I know is that Columbia was not.
>>25338701You don't earn a degree from the Iowa Writer's Workshop
>>25338747>>25338771Then anon should apply to fully funded programs.
>>25338771columbia is a debt farm. if ur family isn't loaded enough to pay cash, don't do it.
>>25338771I went to Columbia for a year after highschool. Insane school. Not worth the money at all
>>25338776Yes you do. It's called an MFA.
>>25338776bruh iowa writer's workshop is like THEE mfa program if u do it ur guaranteed to get ur slop on a table in the front of barnes and noble.
>>25338850Can you please go back to bed, the board was better when you were asleep.
>>25338701You got anyone who obtained one in the last 45 years?
>>25338666It's my understanding MFA programs teach you to subvert traditional storytelling and push experimental prose and storytellingLike wtfNo thanks
>>25338666You might as well just get a BS in something as a fall back plan.
>>25338771Hi LizaThanks for joining our community here
>>25338747>no neetbux
>>25338666>unholy tripsChecked>is an MFA worth itif it's fully funded, yes. if it's not fully funded do not fucking do it for any reason>will it make me betterthe MFA itself doesn't make you a better writer, but being paid to do little other than write for a few years will make you a better writer. the value of an MFA is that it buys you time, connections, and accreditation
>>25339015dfw said they taught him to stop being a carefree postmodern kinda guy and get all sentimental and sincere instead
>>25339008tony tulathimutte, i think he could have a great american door stopper in him. he better not waste our lives with any more of this short story shit, commit and go big, dude.
I cannot think of a degree more worthless than an MFA
>>25339556there are a lot of mfas besides creative writing bro
>>25339562All equally as trash
>>25339564no one is gonna trust u to be like art director of some big ass shit if u can't even finish a masters dude
>>25339567I studied that shit in undergrad and ended up getting an unrelated masters in business after to actually make money
>>25338666who would ever willingly go to Cornell. Its the most forgettable Ivy League school
>>25339587is an mba even worth it if you haven't had a real job
>>25339589it's less pozzed than brown
>>25339596not rly usually u do an mba if u want to transition to managerial roles in the industry u already have experience in. if u want to switch careers u have to do sth specific like quantitive finance or sth.
>>25339596If you get into a top program the name alone will get you an internship that turns into a full-time offerThat's what me and most of the other straight from undergrad people did
I think the funniest thing about an MFA is the number of stories I've heard from people who got in writing about how this or that famous writer came in as a guest instructor/reviewer/whatever and would read the students work only to go "stop writing about your personal trauma you aren't saying anything and this is boring"
>>25339693One of my closest friends does this and it really bothers me so much because I love her and she had already one of her dreams crushed by life circumstances and I can't tell straight up tell her - more so because I don't think she shares it with anybody else.
>>25339693>stop writing about your personal trauma you aren't saying anything and this is boringI had to take a run-of-the-mill creative nonfiction writing course in uni (as a requirement unrelated to an MFA though the course can be used for that), and the second half of the semester was spent reading and examining essays by fellow students. Out of about twenty essays, I would wager that fifteen or so were either wholly about personal trauma or injected such.
>>25338666Step 1: Find an introductory class on creative fiction from some workshopStep 2: Read books / authors you think you will enjoyStep 3: Read more authors you already know you enjoyStep 4: WriteStep 5: Is it working yet?Step 6: Find a literary agent
