Is this true?
>broad generalization postingyou reposting that stupid shit here is just as bad as the stupid indian that made it up for x engagement. you should both be put in a camp.
>>25340849My experience from browsing archiveofourown has taught me the opposite
>>25340849Does internet porn exist because society doesn't recognize men deserve infinite sex partners they can money shot at will?
>>25340849>Is this true?^>no
>>25340849>Is this true?No, because most of those books have women being taken savagely in what they would call "rape."
>>25340849>romance novels>treated kindly...
i hate women so much its unreal
>>25340849>idealized irrational depictions of romance exist because women just want it in real lifeHalf the genre is women being brutalized and raped by men. In fact many of the best sellers like Rooney's crappy books get concernposting because they feature entirely toxic relationships. Other crossover genre hits like Twilight have similar issues.Both written by insane mormons with zero dating history, coincidence?Anyway I guess this argument says women really want a billionaire to beat them up and rape them as well then.
>>25340916>Anyway I guess this argument says women really want a billionaire to beat them up and rape them as well then.Finally, something men and women can agree on.
>>25340849If romance were cute and about being loved… instead, it's this: >>25340736
>>25340849So true. When my mom reads about billionaire biker gang werewolf bondage that's because she yearns for a nice guy.
>>25340849straight women don't fantasize about being loved and treated kindly by men
>>25340857Meanwhile when I look at male centered porn I only see cuckoldry, blacked and NTR. Does this mean that most men want to be cuckolded and have their partners cheat on them? No? Then don't judge women centric erotica that features dubious consent. The human subconscious is weird and a lot of fetishization is build around taboos and fear rather than true desire. Pornography is a way for people to explore things they don't actually want to happen to them in real life.
>>25340849lmao no they read some fukken heinous shit that would land you a felony in 37 states
>>25341063Shut the fuck up, Card. Write more shitty poems or something you goodfornothing Jew
>>25341063>Meanwhile when I look at male centered porn I only see cuckoldry, blacked and NTRBuddy this says way more about you than anything else
>>25341074Just have a gander at /gif/
>>25341082that's indians. not white, western men
>>25341063>>25341082Men are really sick, why do they like poisoning wells and eating Palestinian children so much?
>>25341082Fucking what? That's MORE retarded than saying /pol/ is representative of American political issues. And why don't you have a filter for hiding poopdick threads if you go on /gif/ a lot?
>>25340849i thought straight women fantasized about being raped by werewolves
>>25341103And yet you don't hold women to the same standards; curious..
>>25341082Cucking is a performative challange men undertake with each other. Men do it to establish what the current hierarchy of dominance is and relish AND fear the cuck ideal. Hence a lot of cuck porn on /gif/ where the certain race's men would dominate another race's women and it will be a challange about who got the biggest cock making the woman cum the hardest. What you typically see on /gif are examples that will be White men dominating Asians(men or women) which confirms what I said. You should not take /gif/ literally because the people who share those videos online are vicarious themselves and have a cuck fetish in terms of exploring novelty in their isolated internet corner. Chad and Tyrone doesn't have cuck fetishes and are actively having normal straight sex. Same with OP, women do want to get dominated but the online litsmut community doesn't establish that Stacy want to be raped when a bunch of overweight femcels read rapecom.tldr: tf you on lit for? read the wall
>>25341122Women have been discriminated against in politics for literally thousands of years. We aren't able to "hold them to the same standards" because women politicans are such an unique and unusual occurances there are hardly any instances of them participating in morally objectionable actions.
>>25340849well I wish women were like the ideals in my porn genre and nothing but horny cumwhores, but unfortunately we both have to settle on reality
Men don't make fun of romance books because it's "unrealistic." They make fun of it because it is fake as fuck.
Many comments about biker werewolf rape but most novels are shit like pic related.
>>25341063You do realize that the media you consume directly affects what kind of a person you are, on a chemical level?
>>25340849Yeah. Lynn Painter, Abby Jimenez and Emily Henry are the standard normie woman go-to authors, which are really cozy and nice and disgustingly cheesy.Usually the response to this is pulling out a self-published meme novel with an AI cover about a hyperspecific fetish, which says more about the person posting about it than the average female reader.If you actually wanna know how all those normie romances always go, then watch https://youtu.be/4GskjSBw9lAI think it's the originator of all of those books. That movie is based on a novel, written by a soviet male author (picrel).Truth be told, men would have a much easier time bagging shorties if they weren't always projecting their obsession with weird sexual fetishes, and tried to read some cozy no-brainer instead.
>>25341170woman are the most beautiful creatures...
>>25341163You just repeated yourself, retard
>>25341170Premium slop.
>>25340849As someone who was very briefly in a relationship with a woman, whose only experience about romance came from shitty romance novels I can tell you it very much is unrealistic.
>>25340849I wonder how women would receive the kind of romance I write. It's always a homely waif going through hardships while the guy is an anti-hero mix of brooding darkness and angelic beauty. I know this is the perfect formula and every romcom is exactly that except for the grimdark, but I wonder if they would like the dynamics I write, and the dialogue and everything else. There is some shit I hate in current media which i avoid like the plague so a lot of the tropes are missing. It's more like what a normal relationship would have been like before the internet made everyone retarded.I wonder if they can tell it's a dude who wrote it, cause I think it's unusual for a man to like pairing a clumsy wimpy girl with a paragon of Chadness. I think guys like women getting degraded or humiliated and vile things like that but I do this trope instead. I can't write anything else.
>>25341249That's nist Jane Eyre except the guy is twice her age and short and weird looking
>>25341249Let me read it I'll let you know.
>>25341063>Meanwhile when I look at porn I only see cuckoldry, blacked and NTRFtfy
>>25340849completely falsemy sister tried killing herself and blamed me for not loving her enough so in her head i imagine that because i did not try to rape her, i did not love her.
>>25341074>Buddy this says way more about you than anything elsenta but but every other ad has a nigger with a white womanthere's a huge push for white women to fuck niggers so only the lowest of cucks can stomach spawning a child with them when they hit 40 and decide to settle.Normal men want a virgin or at the very worst a widow. Having feelings for a woman whose body count is higher than 0 makes you a cuck and a faggot. It's literally one step away from taking penises in your mouth. The jews are filtering white men so that only submissive balding betas get to breed with disgusting roasties and everyone else either becomes a monk or just bangs whores instead of raising a family
>>25341179Unrealistic doesn't mean fake.Any guy in the world can *act* like the OP pic rel wants. That's not unrealistic. The books themselves are completely fake bullshit, however. Do you see the distinction?
>>25341312>i did not try to rape her, i did not love her.Did you remedy your failings?
>>25341063>Does this mean that most men want to be cuckolded and have their partners cheat on them?Eventually, yes.
>>25340849What reaction is that post supposed to invoke in me, a man, other than: yes you, a woman, ARE stupid for wanting such an impossible thing? You're wanting it even after constantly pointing out to me how for all of human history men have been so cruel torwards women.Shouldn't you have learned by now?
>>25341427Actually nevermind. The majority of women alive today are descended from generations of women who have been raped and essentially domesticated, of course she would be a little naive.
>>25341427>>25341249>>25340849women make these kinds of posts not because they are sharing factual information, but because it is the kind of post that will gain sympathy from women and garner sexual attention from men. a post like this, and virtually every single thing women utter solely has the purpose of upping their social status. also why women can't be held accountable, because they would rather die than do something to lower their social status
>>25340849Sure, if by "being loved and treated kindly by men" she means being raped by minotaurs.
>>25341445>they would rather die than do something to lower their social statusAnd yet they (many of them) are harlots…
>>25341508>implying that harlots aren't making boatloads of money and modern beta men don't love the idea of being the right one for a literal prostitute>implying pornstars aren't high status todaytimes have changed anon
>>25340849Men don't think it's funny that women want love, they think it's funny they exclusively want it from 10/10 self-made billionaire rapists who treat them like shit and are also werewolves.
>>25340849>men*males
>>25341508even with all the pro-whore messaging, most women still do their utmost to pretend like they aren't fucking tons of dudes. the big exceptions are women with no social status left (drug addicts, retards), and pornstars who make obscene amounts of money.
>>25340849I'll try to be a better man.
>>25341192Cute. CUTE!
>>25341155You started off strong. But you tried a bit too hard there. Still 8/10. Fooled that retard kek.
>>25341163>men don't make fun of it because its fake. Men make fun of it because its fake.Welcome to /lit/. You'll fit right in.
>>25341063No sane man pays for porn
I support a total return to patriarchy.A man who is unwilling to act as a patriarch fully is a faggot and deserves zero respect, and his daughter is trained in whoring personal behavior.
>>25341695extending on this.Most women have only been around faggots.
>>25340849yes all of that is true
>>25341783It's not true.Most women have never been around a man, and so they basically want a dyke, because that's the closest emulation they've been around.But that's not a man.A man isn't something like the faggot men that women are used to.A man actually lays down the law. This is the most fundamental aspect of a man.
>>25341790you're wrong because it's all true
>>25341515>pornstars are high status>implying 99% of cam whores dont make more than pennies
>>25341082>Just have a gander at /gif/The board that's /confirmed/ to have people posting cuck shit explicitly to mess with whites? You know they pulled the veil from the cuck posters on twitter and virtually all of them originated in India. Incidentally also where a few unmasked cuckposters on 4chan have been from. Makes you think.
Wish fulfillment is evil
>>25341792It's totally untrue.You don't understand what I mean by "it's totally untrue".I mean that a woman - an actual one, you have scarcely met one - is nothing like the ones who are just whores, you having never met an actual woman.>one man in a thousand I have found and a woman among all of these I did not find
>>25342013Yeah like even what are wishes? Whatever happens happens.
>>25341063>Meanwhile when I look at male centered porn I only see cuckoldry, blacked and NTRConsidering how varied pornography is, this means these are the genres you specifically seek out.
>>25341063The litpr0n men seek out tend more to monstergirls and harem. At no point is there any NTR (even cheating on women) in the r/romance_for_men subreddit.I'll point out here that furries are degenerates and harems are stupid. But.if you like watching your girl be ran through by nigs, that's a you thing, and you don't speak for most men.
Most romantic plots authored by women that I have read feature cold, aloof men gradually "tamed" by the heroine. The man can be merely uninterested in her, or he can be overtly harsh and dismissive, but the result is that he regularly ignores her in favor of whatever work he's pursuing, which is usually important and sometimes mysterious. The heroine usually inserts herself into his work somehow, so that he cannot ignore her by focusing on it, and the man is always surprised at how useful she turns out to be to him, going from begrudging acceptance of her presence to genuine appreciation. Eventually there will b a climax where the man is forced to choose between his work and her, and he will choose her in a surprising display of affection. This is basically the female fantasy, of ruining hardworking, competent man.
>>25340849Women use romance to extract favors from men.
>>25342071no it's all true and you're wrong
>>25342182>not an argument.Not that I would want to talk to a dumb woman, anyway, especially since the dishes haven't been taken care of.
>>25342615its all true
last word.
>>25340849you just know the womyn that wrote this was absolutely SEETHING as they did
>>25340916>Both written by insane mormons with zero dating historylmao which other ones are mormon besides the twilight bitch?
>>25342644Women shouldn't date, that's very inappropriate. A father that allows his daughter to talk to random men is just a homosexual.You have scarcely ever met a straight man.
>>25341063>Pornography is a way for people to explore things they don't actually want to happen to them in real life.Yeah, and I suppose the people who fantasize about fucking kids are actually irl exclusively attracted to milfs, right? I mean these things have overlap, right? None at all?Also, it's funny how the same porn-addicted, 'kink awareness' losers who insist on insist on spilling their fucked up fantasies all over the place, all the time, will immediately and hysterically lash out when merely asked about them.>noooooo my messed up rape fantasies have nothing to do with real life! see, we even genteelly, hr departmentally, renamed it consensual non-consent!
>>25342133There's one manhwa I follow because it had seemingly less retarded drama than most of the type "on your knees your grace" basic plot was brother of the king doesn't want to get politically married off to a foreign nation so he contract marries the secretary from his office. but thinking it over even that technically fits. even though I was tolerating it because she cute in a tomboyish way.I think there is definitely a a strong element of restricted consent where femc is forced to be with alphamale entirely against his and her will but they eventually become codependent/inlove.
>>25343186who can read this post without suffering a stroke wtf
>>25341063
>>25343187Other than the out of place:>but thinking it over even that technically fits.What's the problem with it?
>>25343286I guess both of you are niggers. You should elope and leave this board.
>>25340916Coincidence. Why did you emphasised mormons?
>>25341063>I only see cuckoldary blacked Lying rat. I have only deepthroat fucking and pissing on women. Nobody expects Israeli watch cuckoldary. Not even Indians .
>>25340849Romance exists because women want to get gang raped by vampire werewolf billionaire beast men and men are too selfish to provide that for them.
>>25340849only a vapid whore could make that statementhope that answers your question
>>25341082I am in constant battle with the jews there who start blowjob thread with “Webms that makes you want to suck a dick”. This has been happening since 2011. 100% pysop. When I start a normal blowjob thread they bump it max within minutes. This show more of how internet is jewish psyop playground. But it is hard to rewire natural instincts and they have failed.
>>25343338>Israelis themselves get off on degrading women (shikses), while sowing demoralisation and porn-psyops for goys abroadWell I never..
>>25340849No it's literally just that we dont all have anthropomorphic 11 inch and are all 6 foot 5.
>>25343379du u think that new kanye video was inspired by that? he always knows how to tap into trendshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRWqgogm8TE
>>25343325It's just the way I type, what about it fries your brain?I'd like to improve my readability where possible.
Isn't much of romance fiction just>raped (consensually) by the billionaire chud
>>25343474There's a difference between what a fantasy means and what you use it for. To illustrate this, turn the question around and ask it of the men: no, not the homosexual “would you sleep with a man for a million dollars?” but “would you pay a woman a million dollars to sleep with you?” No? So who would? That question is the price you pay to use the fantasy your way, because the guy in your answer is someone who has millions of dollars-- a guy for whom money is meaningless. In order to have the fantasy she is worth a million dollars, she must believe that a million dollars is worthless. “Whatever, I'd still have the million dollars.” Yes, that response was obvious-- yet it had to be said out loud. You should take note every time that happens, there before you is the defense. What you think you're doing is arguing about relative value, to you the money is worth way more than some diminished self-esteem. Except that you don't have the money-- you imagine you'd have it. The whole thing is hypothetical, a fantasy, so while in fact we've discovered you in fact don't think you're worth the money, you also in fact don't have the money. The only compensation you needed to admit to your valuelessness is the fantasy of a million dollars. I know a lot of professionals whose rate is $500/hr in theory, but in practice they charge a “sliding scale”= a quarter of that, reserving the $500 for “those who can afford it.” Maybe they get that fee once an Olympiad, so it's hardly about the income; since they don't have the ability to charge what they wish they are worth, they need there to exist a theoretical client with power to declare they are.
>>25340856fpbp
>>25340849>fantasize about being loved and treated kindly by mennot just men. very attractive men. often unrealistically attractive men>straight womenalso something something lesbian couples domestic violence stats etc.>>25340858exactly. I'd argue men's expectations are actually more realistic than women's. except for a few of the more extreme sex acts, which I personally don't care about. and I guess I can live without someone who enjoys drinking semen, I recognize that shit is disgusting. still. would be nice
>>25343577If not for the money thing I would understand female fantasies. I also daydream about an impossibly beautiful but scary vampire chick crawling on top of me in the night, smothering me with her pale titties. She's way out of my league but I indulge. I love all the monsters. They're dangerous, they are scary. They are sometimes animalistic, but they want my special cock. In my fantasies, I am exactly who I am, a honest man with empty pockets, and the werewolf loves me anyway. Who am I to judge if a woman wants a buff werewolf dude? It's the same, except for the weird dick. But women have to do the money thing. The guy isn't just a werewolf with a 12" rocket, he's rich too. He's always fucking rich. If money is so crucial to a woman's love then a woman's love is mercenary. In her fantasies, a woman is always a whore. Every woman is a whore! They all do it, for fuck's sake. I bet even the Canadian bestseller bear is filthy rich, like he's got gold ingots in his cave or runs the whole fucking Canadian honey industry.
Is romance writing an example of fisher runaway theory?
>>25343379You're clearly just a braindead, illiterate chud who couldn't intellectually grapple with the greatest piece of Marxist literature so you need to mock revolutionary women who are much smarter than you in order to cope. Sad!
Men make fun of it because women say they want that when the reality is far more depressing.>"Oh I wish MY Prince Charming would find me!">Goes to the bar/club for the fifth time that week and wakes up in the bed of a stranger for the fourth time that week and then goes home to her neglected kids of mystery daddies.
>>25340849I read a romance book with my wife once. In it, the FemC cheated on her fiance once (while drunk), then tried to get with an older woman, then cheated a second time. This time the boyfriend discovers it and is beat up by the other guy.He's the bad guy in the book, she's the good guy. His crime? She suspected he didn't really want to marry her because his family didn't approve.Her big moment was breaking up with the guy in her head - not in reality, he had no clue - and getting "what she needed" from the other guy until he left for Colorado.
>>25344308I hope you told your wife how dumb the book was and she agreed.
>>25344308>fiction for women>wow this sure is full of insane hyperemotional retardation, these women are crazyThis is the part where I look directly into the camera.
>>25344411I did and she did. It was for her book club and she left after this book
>>25340849Broad generalization makes generalization broads.
>>25340849>romance [...]. exists largely because straight women fantasize about being loved and treated kindly be men>'romance' as a genre refers to erotica>the most common tropes in 'romance' is related to rape and exploitation by rich men or supernatural figuresthis seems disingenuous. even women know that their porn books are mostly fucked up and not about the actual subjects of love and romance
if you press the button every single person to have ever posted a screenshot from twitter bursts into flamesif you dont press the button they also burst into flames but so do youdo you press it
>>25340849>romance the highest selling genre>about being loved and treated kindly by menI thought it was a bunch of monster rape fantasies ?
>>25340849>treated kindly by menAka "treated kindly" (finally given commitment/marriage) by the very top% of men who are actually above them socially but they're infatuated and unable to say no to these men regardless, no matter how callous or cruel they are. All the other % of males are functionally invisible to them, even their actual looksmatch.Society just has to entertain this endless cognitive dissonance now. We literally can't address it in any meaningful way.
>>25345162Read about the pathological feminine.Our society is structured around controlling and restraining the pathological masculine because women were not given the agency to be as destructive as they now are.Until we can properly restrict the pathological feminine it will continue to be destructive.
>>25342133I'd love to be ruined by a woman like that
>>25344045In order to find her prince, a woman must kiss many frogs
>>25345755thus she ends her years with warts
i really dont like that picture of a bpd chick freaking out and i hope people dont identify with herin any case romance was invented by men in an attempt to brainwash women into becoming beings they could love
>>25343179it's a world you will never understand so stop trying and either go on a killing spree or shut up
>>25345755>>25345767heh
>>25340849Is this post just an inversion of what men want? Women's romance is all about rape and beatings. Men's romance is about being loved and treated kindly by a woman.
>>25345770It's from a movie and I'll have you know the character's teeth all fell out in the previous scene
>>25340856Hate the game not the player
>>25346414let's pump it up!
>>25341063Yes, men want to be cucked. Men YEARN to be cucked. A man wants a wife because he secretly dreams of her cucking him with a virile bull. Look at the western canon men created: Arthurian Legend, cuckoldry. Tristand and Isolde, cuckoldry. Orlando Furioso, cuckoldry. Homeric epics, cuckoldry, Menelaus takes Helena BACK at the the Iliad. Modern times? Madame Bovary, a cuckoldry book. Everywhere you look in men's literature, it's always a cuckoldry book. Men NEED to be cucked. The modern masculinity crisis is because women aren't cucking their husbands enough.
>>25345162just sayingif anon were really a nice man and not callous or cruel he wouldn't criticize the stories that make her happythe fact that you do, uncaring of her feelings, makes you the cruel and callous one, and she rightfully rejects people like youwhereas her love interest would support her interest in her stories, making him the real heart of goldif you don't care for what makes her happy, YOU are the bad guy anon
>>25346489chad calls her a dumb bitch, slaps her around leaving her a bruised mess, then he fucks her as she screams in pain
>>25346496That's what happens in a lot of hentai drawn by men unironically look it up on the pandawomen's romance she always feel immense pleasure and he always relents/defers to her preferences
>>25345063I wish there were a single word for "says no but means yes and everything goes 100% right naturally and both parties enjoy it" kind rape. I don't like rape where both parties don't enjoy it.
>>25346463Totally delusional
>all the incels itt whining about rape>look up one of said rapes>it's a guy pleasuring her and making her delirious with joy and orgasm with his tongue at least two times first before he even thinks of touching his cockyou guys call this rape?
>>25341155No they haven't. Feminism is a crutch. Actual successful women don't need it.
>>25343796Tranny hands typed this
>>25343179>consensual non-consentthat's unironicaly due to chuds complainingthey saw "rape" and expected suffering and traumainstead they got hot guy is the perfect lover without even trying and got triggeredso women started differentiating, rightfully so
>>25340849That's a man
>>25346414okay but neither the context inside the story nor the character are real but the face of a woman on the verge of freak out and so are the little women on the internet using her to illustrate their feelings. quite sad
>>25346552You are mentally retarded and clearly don't talk to women>>25343179You and the guy you're responding to are both delusional
>>25346647I talk to way more women than you, anonyou ppl are incapable of satisfying a woman cuz you can't even understand the most basic of female fantasies and that makes you seetheincels should kill themselves
>want to be loved>refuse to be lovablewhat did these retarded whores mean by this?
>>25346516
>>25346846ok tell us the top three most basic female fantasies?
>>25341082Israel has teams working 24/7 to post various kikery onlineWikipedia, reddit, 4chan. All of them crawling with hasbara.Imagine, if you will, a group so vile...
>>25346887consensual non-consent is the most basic one and you ppl don't get even that onelook at this thread
>>25346846I'm in bed with one as I type this lmfao. Stop making shit up about where terms came from. >incels should kill themselvesAre you going to lead by example?
>>25340849you forgot the part where the men are burly 7 foot tall werewolf billionairesnot judging btw, I can see the appeal
>>25346905>I'm in bed with oneyou will never be a woman, anon
>>25346913Thank God for that, I enjoy being a member of the imperial sex far too much.
When I was growing up in the 90s and early 00's every male friend had a girlfriend and it wasn't far fetched at all, even the dorky ones. Nowadays, nobody believes anybody has a female that wants to be around them, let alone in bed. Have things changed or is it just /lit/ that doesn't have relationships
>>25346920damn that's some faggot way to talk
>>25346924If dating apps had existed none of your friends would have had girlfirends
>>25346927Are you propositioning me? >>25346924It's the whole world unironically
>>25346931was going to argue with you but you're right. they all met organically and the only competition is other men the girl has met in real life, allowing them time to just bond and be happy
>>25346932>sees comment on his manner of speaking>immediately thinks of faggotry
>>25346945Did you read what I responded to?
>>25346932Anon do you regularly imagine men coming onto you?
>>25340849Does anyone know which books she's referring to?
>>25346955No, only women
