>>25343622
As a westerner, you will literally never understand Chinese literature unless you study it in college and learn the language. Give it up.

>>25343622
Start with Dinasty Warriors.

>>25343626
nah it was pretty easy for me
you sound upset, maybe you spent a lot of time and money doing something that was pointless?

>>25343622
As a westerner, you will definitely understand Chinese literature, just watch pokermon for a few years and you'll get it

Start with the Carnal Prayer Mat

>>25343622
that translation sucks, is why

>>25343622
>>I haven't a clue what the fuck is going on
that's just because it introduces a lot of characters in the beginning with names that are hard to keep straight. maybe make yourself a family tree or something like they do for tolstoy books

>>25343630
You didn't understand anything. https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E7%BA%A2%E5%AD%A6/153409

>>25343806
you're in denial buddy

>>25343864
Do you think that an easterner would sufficiently understand Ulysses just by reading it alone, perhaps with one measly introduction? Even most westerners couldn't do that today. That's where you stand trying to approach Chinese literature as a westerner. You have no sense for it. To you the entire framework is invisible.

>>25343925
>Do you think that an easterner would sufficiently understand Ulysses just by reading it alone, perhaps with one measly introduction? Even most westerners couldn't do that today.
So then only the Westerners who goes to college to do a PhD on Ulysses can understand Ulysses? Do you think the average Chinese person understands Red Chamber? After all, they don't even know traditional Chinese characters and they have no relevant experience to the historical period it comes from. You're taking a very basic observation and expanding it to ridiculous proportions. You simply do not know what you're talking about.

>>25343622
>He didnt start with the pre Han

>>25343632
As a westerner, I thought it was pretty cool that I understood Sun Jian‘s issue with the imperial seal in Romance of the Three Kingdoms because I played a lot of Fire Emblem on the GBA in middle school.

>>25343626
uhh nigger i can literally ask claude to summarize the book in like a paragraph for me, so....

>>25343622
>I haven't a clue what the fuck is going on
Nothing of what happens in the bulk of the novel seem to have any relevance when it comes to informing the ending, and even then the novel suits itself trying to be torn apart bot knowing whether it wants to be a Daoist novel or a confucian one. So you'll be just fine I think
Keep note of the characters like it has been suggested and enjoy it as episodes that are loosely tied together by the fact they all take place in the same mansion

>>25344075
No, because much of Ulysses is pre-assimilated for you by virtue of growing up in a western society. Of course, neither is the average Chinese a redologist, but they aren't fundamentally starting almost from zero like a westerner. Can you imagine reading Moby Dick or The Scarlet Letter without a foundational knowledge of Christianity gained by osmosis? As you are, you are functionally blind. I think people with your mindset have absorbed too much of that ideology which claims that there are no fundamental differences between the western and eastern mind, and that no large amount of energy must be expended to bridge the gap. You also far overestimate the difficulty Chinese nationals have with traditional characters. You're imagining a fictional scenario where they would be left completely stranded the moment 国 is written 國. And this isn't even taking into account that Red Chamber wasn't written in Classical Chinese, which makes this imagined whole ordeal no ordeal at all.

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>>25343626
I honestly probably understand it better than you chinky

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>>25344203
What you say?

>>25344178
>No, because much of Ulysses is pre-assimilated for you by virtue of growing up in a western society.
No it is not. Hazarding a guess here that you haven't read Ulysses.
>Can you imagine reading Moby Dick or The Scarlet Letter without a foundational knowledge of Christianity gained by osmosis?
Yes, easily.
>I think people with your mindset have absorbed too much of that ideology which claims that there are no fundamental differences between the western and eastern mind
Projection.

>>25344213
LMAO very clever joke anon

i don't trust chinese literature, i read Water Margin, one of the other 3 classics last year, and it was pretty bad. i don't get why the high praise, i guess the prose loses all its musicality and magic with the translation. in terms of plot it's sometimes interesting and fun, like the subplot with the adulterer who plots with her neighbour to murder her husband, but most of the times it's extremely repetitive and boring, the book drags on and on. all of the characters are plain, charicatures almost, and there are so many heroes that are literally the same guy with different name. i didn't hate it, i finished it and it was often amusing, and interesting in its own right since i had never read anything like it, but it's not a good book

>>25343622
Just go along with it and take the story in, it'll happen naturally