I'm convinced Kafka was autistic.His nightmares weren't nightmares but his very reality living as an autist in a normie world. Trying his best to put in a way a normie could understand and emphasize with.Also, just look at him.
no such thing as autism back then
>>25343676i have photographic evidence to the contrary
isn't literature the one artistic pursuit that effectively filters all autists because it demands having a well developed sense of empathy and theory of mind? Is there a single (fiction) writer who is/was confirmed autistic?
>>25343720Mickey Rowe, J. Michael Straczynski, and of course Varg
>>25343763kinda proves my point, though, doesn't it? Those aren't exactly accomplished writers.
>>25343720no
>>25343623No he was just Jewish
>>25343904what do you expect?autism wasn't a widespread diagnosis until recently and are a small minoritythere's plenty of classic writers suspected to be autistic but it's of course impossible to confirm it postmortem
>>25343924name some classic writers, then, that you suspect were autistic
>>25343931Austen, Lovecraft, Asimov, Thoreau, Joyce, and Lewis Carroll are theorized to be autistic
>>25343918There is undeniably a large overlap between neurotic jewish and pre-cartoon/internet high functioning autistic experience and expression.
>>25343623There's a lot of overlap between autism and some mild/incipient forms of schizotypy, it can be hard to differentiate. I wouldn't be surprised if Richey Edwards suffered the same thing, similar type of guy.https://youtu.be/DVeN7Td_l5w?is=O8suN1Ln_JDwC7dy
>>25343623Kafka was neurotic, not autistic. He found his own books to be extremely funny
>>25345310I have all of these symptoms except psychosis and echolalia. I read Kafka's letters to Milena recently and enjoy how he talked about dying as a comforting release. The difference is he actually went to a doctor and had a job. I haven't left my house in 5 years.
>>25345363roughly 80% of high-functioning autists show strong neurotic symptoms
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>>25343623I don't think an autist could communicate in prose the way he did.In fact, autism kinda defines the inability to communicate in such prose.
>>25345931>>25343676Most likely autists weren't /lit/ writers and didn't leave their phenomenological mark in history as the more emotionally-normative writers have.I just don't see autistic authors selling a lot of fiction books (non-fiction is another story).
>>25345934Even further, I'd say the best writers are schizoid (personality disordered) as they tend to have the best verisimilitude of the worlds, characters & dynamics they are constructing compared to a normative person who can't suspend disbelief and detach from reality on that abstract level.
>>25343623A conspiracy theorist I used to listen to, Alan Watt, believed he could see things more clearly than mostly everyone else because he is on the spectrum to some degree. Kafka reads like that -- a disconnected psyche from virtually everyone, reducing life to isolated observation of the world around them. So it's no wonder autists develop neuroses, they're effectively marooned in their own mental landscape. Kafka is both very rational and hyper aware because he isn't caught in the normie flux. Work-life, society and its structure is completely maddening. It's by being emotionally connected to others around you that you're able to to tolerate it more via other emotional distractions.
>>25345931>In fact, autism kinda defines the inability to communicate in such prose.What fact?Autists mostly struggle with things like non-verbal clues in conversation.In writing, you got structure, rules, laid out black on white.We're not talking about a complete tard here but an adult very high-functioning autist, which do have things like a theory of mind.
>>25345942Fact from behavior experience; I haven't encountered an autist or there work that has demonstrated a superiority in normative communicative ability; they are at best in imitation and are by nature at a deficit; hence why autism is classified as a disability (i'm sure the DSM VI will "normalize" it... but I don't share their arbitrarily Philosophy of Science).I don't see autism as a "super power" and all this autism wank needs to fucken end; Kafta wasn't an autist hero, he was an insightful normal writer.Grow the fuck up.
>>25345954Okay, so you have some weird hangups about autism and current social activism and aren't actually interested in discussing the topic honestly.
>>25345964I think it needs to be cured.That's my hangup.I pity autists because a normative person can experience what they go through by muting their emotions, but an autist can't experience what a normative person goes through, let alone a bipolar maniac's emotional range.I could even go further and claim that the bipolar people are more "human" than the normative ones since they experience more emotional range than an average human ever will (for example, most humans in their lifetime do not report natural experiences of intense euphoria or suicidal depression (this is what classifies normies ontologically and clinically as "normies" since they don't go through those phenomenons).
>>25345995>I think it needs to be cured.It can't. It's a neurodevelopmental disorder. Autistic brains are physically different.There's no pill or therapy hour fixing it.And this has nothing to do with the topic at hand whatsoever.
>>25346014Then we are at an ontological and ethical disagreement on what is/should of being.>And this has nothing to do with the topic at hand whatsoever.Yeah it does psychologically (motive).>I'm convinced Kafka was autistic.sounds like someone trying to normalize aneurotypical behavior in historical figures where there was previously no diagnosed pathology.Please don't treat me as if I'm stupid.I hate coming here already and I learn nothing from you anons...
>>25346038>goes on an autism website to cry about autistsanon, the autist was you all along
>>25346055haha. I never denied that; I considered myself autistically bipolar.from the cold calculating void to the manic godhood. I feel more than human.you could say I relate too much...
>>25343720>>25345931Autism impairs on-the-fly spontaneous communication, because the distracted autist will forget that they have weak theory of mind and weak radar for non-verbal communication and weak recognition of social norms while they're being distracted. An autist can still be good at delayed communication, like writing a letter or a script or a novel, because they can use the slower pace to periodically remind themselves "oh yeah, I have weak theory of mind and weak radar for non-verbal communication and weak recognition of social norms".
>>25346124Ok, but I can do that.I've done that.I've experience autism but I've been more.Not only that, I have control over my emotional states through years of experience them (or lack thereof).I'm advocating for people to be more like me.I am normal to me, and people find me extra-ordinary normal (normal+) as I relate to everyone I have met in the whole emotional spectrum, and I have a will to power to make others have the ability to relate to others as I do. I feel this is noble and right to do for my fellow man; to uplift them to cure my loneliness and share in my glory of being.
>>25346144Cool story, pinball wizard.
>>25346156jelly?
>>25346124interesting. Whenever I commit a faux pas (which is somewhat often) I always think of what the more appropriate thing to do or say would have been when I get home and have some time to myself. I like to think I have a pretty normal level of social understanding and that it's just my on the spot instincts that are pretty terrible. But maybe i just have autism lol
>>25343623Maiskolben!
