Possibly the most famous work of fetish fiction second only to Fifty Shades of Gray?I always see people praising this shit, and all I can see is the most blatant fetishistic concepts of all time. The author is really into degradation, humiliation, and transformation. This work is just /d/ with a sci-fi twist>oh yeah punish humanity ooo yeah we've been a bad little species haven't we?>ah turn us into squares of flesh that survive by eating waste!!!!>awww fuck yah cap our IQ and ride us around like animals it feels so good!!!!The man is a pervert. This is dross. It is time to acknowledge it.
>>25344492i cant imagine how retarded i'd have to be to fall for bait like this
>>25344492What I don't understand is why every single creature is the ugliest thing ever conceived.
>>25344495You could start by reading it, or at least watching a video summarizing it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imNtSPM3-r4He constantly writes about humans genetically engineered to have weird genitals and degrading sexual reproductive cycles.Eating literal shit occurs more than once also
>>25344502And why their genitals need to constantly be visible
>>25344492This is bait but the fart-propelled creatures convinced me of this>>25344502>>25344507Because it's a fetish, or something adjacent to it
>>25344514>the fart-propelled creatures convinced me of thisThe "Bone Crushers" literally communicate by shitting on each other.The art of the "Blind Folk" appears to depict the smaller one (a child?) actively shitting
>>25344495Maybe he's trying for the frogposter. That guy's clearly retarded.
>>25344519>"t-this is bait!!!!">given numerous examples of fetishistic aspects of the work>can't justify even a single one of themCan you explain why the author had to include un-birthing by writing that some humans were turned into a type of parasite that infested the womb of its host?
>>25344492It's an interesting read but I don't fully understand why it's so popular. I like the existential dread it instills with the huge time frames and millennia long wars.
>>25344502The framing device is a researcher going over billions of years of human development long after humans are extinct, so everything is an estimate based on fossils. It would be akin to Humans finding fossils on a planet 500 lightyears away with evidence of a long dead civilisation trying to work out what they looked like. Keeping in mind that we still don't fill understand what dinosaurs on our own planet looked like
>>25344548>I don't fully understand why it's so popular.Reddit. Exactly the sort of weird shit Rick & Morty Redditors thought was deep.>woooooooah dude what if like nothing matters? like millions of years will pass and humans will look totally different, what if like, you spent 40 million years as a cube that eats shit lmao?Honestly thinking about it now I realize it literally is just something that would be written into Rick & Morty to be comedic instead of scary
>>25344548>>25344554Always thought this concept of deep time or longtermism is fun and something you don't see that often. Haven't read the book but you sometimes encounter this in Clarke or Lem.
>>25344554This whole "our recreations could be wrong!" shit is so overstated.We actually have an excellent idea of what prehistoric species would have looked at based on what we know of biology in a mechanical sense. Fat and muscle all adhere to bone in predictable ways.And with dinosaurs specifically, we have special fossils that preserve the skin textures of many different species.Where inaccuracies come into recreations are either from decades/centuries ago where the place of the animals discovered in relation to other animals wasn't understood so they didn't know what to look to for reference, or artists that are not themselves scientist or are not using or understanding scientific descriptions of the animalI'd highly recommend the channel Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong on Youtube. It's a bit weird because it's presented kind of like a kids show but then he's discussing academic papers and terminology no child is going to understand, but he's really good at explaining how dinosaur toys look wrong usually because the people making them just don't understand the process of reconstruction
>>25344492Horror and eroticism are two sides of the same coin
>>25344589Make that a site banner for /d/
>>25344589I've never liked this idea. I think they share some "structure" but it isn't that deep unless you've got a particular kind of psychopathy. IDK though.
>>25344585>This whole "our recreations could be wrong!" shit is so overstated.Thank you! I get so annoyed whenever I see it. Modern reconstructions are reliable, because we can compare them to surviving members of the same genus, and if they're from a dead lineage, then there are species with the same or similar elements still alive to draw from.
>>25344646Amplifying this, we also have a good grasp of what is physically possible on this planet. We can make good estimations of how much muscle a skeleton could support, how much stress joints could take, what it looks like when something attaches at the bone, and hundreds of other factors that let us infer a lot even when there is no soft tissue remaining
>>25344589This nigga got a boner watching Backrooms
>>25344492I mean it was written by a literal Turkroach.
>>25344507Human genitals are constantly visible...
>>25344492I found it conceptually interesting, at least interesting enough to actually read it after it's weird moment of heavy shilling a few years back. I even emailed a band that seems to have based a concept album off of it, lame fucks never got back to me, but whatevs.
>>25344503>or at least watching a video summarizing itBetter bait than the opening post.
>>25345478Having read it, it's not really a story that is enhanced by the written word. Most of the interesting bits are in the premise.
>>25344503Looks like it's only praised because of its ugliness
>>25344589>no, not the boobs
>>25345360They’re not strictly human, and even if you want to go with that explanation, there’s no reason to draw them in a way that leaves the genitals visible, could angle it however you wanted
>>25344492first time hearing of body horror or something?
>>25345846There's plenty of body horror that isn't fetishistic. I don't think anyone working on the version of The Fly with Jeff Goldblum was jerking off to it. It was a metaphor for horrible disease like cancer, and it felt like it.When someone writes about how an alien race humiliates humanity by genetically engineering them into creatures that eat shit, and communicate by shitting, and fart to move around- yeah, that's the guy's fetish.
>>25345956Or maybe the author is a bitter Jew that grew up amongst goys and has a bit of a bone to pick with a society that rejected him. It's not really that difficult to understand, plenty of science fiction is authored by people like this.
>>25346028He's Turkishhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._M._K%C3%B6semen
>>25345478>you should read it, but knowing that you won’t you could at least watch a summary of it so you know what it’s about before making posts that suggest you don’t even know the premise>”erm this is bait because you said watch a video”Reddit
>>25346028Its flanderization of what they've already done to your conquered ass you fucking gluron.
>>25344492What do you expect from a jew. They are incapable of beauty
>>25346034check the german early life wiki page on him. Only a jew can think of something disgusting as this shit
>>25346034I remember him being a Turkish Jew and that being a self-admitted inspiration for his work on his website. I actually like the book, it's not as if it being bitter and Jewish is unpleasant to me, in fact I quite liked it.
>>25346517>I actually like the bookDid you jerk off to it like the author did?
>>25346512>Only a jew can think of something disgusting as this shitGiger was 100% Deutsch you fucking schizophrenic retard
>>25347237Who mentioned HR Giger you schizophrenic retard?
>>25347237Where were the shits and farts in Giger?
>>25347250Me >>25347274They're suggested by the tubes up the asses. Giger was way worse than the op, just subtler.
>>25347276>Giger was way worse than the op, just subtler.You're not wrong, honestly lol. He was a Satanist too.
>>25347276>>25347287I, personally, find that he is wrong
>>25347294Have you looked at many of Giger's works? Phallus-shaped objects merging seamlessly into vaginal canal-shaped openings make up like 80% of his recurring motifs.
>>25344492It's made by a Donmeh Turk Jew who were known to be very subversive and transgressive. They are Sabbateans.
>>25344492It's kinda tiresome when reddit talks about the same sci-fi books (all-tomorrows, IHNMAMS, Warhammer 40k) over and over again. All-tomorrows is good but it's a very short picture book and they should really move on already.
>>25344548>I don't fully understand why it's so popularit's the most accessible (due to illustrations and short length) exploration of human evolution on a deep time scale
Man After Man is the big boy's analogue to All Tomorrows.
>>25347406Regrettably the greatest sci-fi novel of all time was never written, that being the tv show Raised by Wolves cancelled in its second season
There are audiobooks of both, serendipitously enough.https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwMbJHbPTdVWfh-1HDSRcmFUHiVU4DgBd
>>25347406They have, anons here keep reviving discussion about it to try and bait people into calling Giger a Jew. I'm not sure if that was their initial goal, but it seems to be where this thread wound up.
>>25347529Take your meds please, anon.
>>25347538There is medicine that will turn a dead Swiss man into a Jew?
>>25347547Yess it's called the water of the Tree of Life.
>>25347547>>25347557Now this is schizoposting
>>25344565I was going to give you a bit of a lesson on speculative evolution as a genre, why its important and why /lit/ is a fake and gay literature board full of pseuds playing at writing star wars/harry potter fan fiction tier OC, but if you really wanted to stop being a complete nigger faggot you would've by now. It'll suffice to say coffee table books like All Tomorrows are just published green text story shitposts you leave out for guests to find. It is much more along the lines of chan culture at its time of release.
>>25344492I'm worried you don't know what having a fetish actually entails. When you have to go poop do you throw your hands up in the air and cry "can't believe i have a scat fetish now"?
>>25344492The erotic is integral part of the human condition, saying a work of art is lesser because it explores it is retarded
>>25348395Don't pretend to have autism, it's beneath you.
>>25348395Why do you just run with the obvious bullshit of the OP? This book might make you feel a few things, but arousal is not one of them.
>>25348523>the obvious bullshit of the OPPoint to a single untrue thing in the OP>This book might make you feel a few things, but arousal is not one of them.You're not meant to jerk off to it, but the author has a humiliation and scat fetish and it shows in his work