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>>25344972
great, another thread to seethe about bap and mike ma, how wonderful.

>>25344996
I'm genuinely curious. It's a worldwide subculture at this point.

>>25344972
behead all satans/tainted turd are better. even "finally some good news" is, imo.

>>25344974
this is one of the lamest cases of projection i've ever seen. the right doesn't care about being "seen as cool" or getting published in the atlantic. in fact the last sentence is one of those "every accusation is a confession thing". if anyone wants to seem cool but not have to have the responsibility of actually doing anything, it is the left.

>>25344974
Fpwp, congress is controlled by the ex-trotskyites in the Senate and the neostalinists still seem to control a lot in the bureaucracy.

>>25344972
I've read and finished every single book published by this scene post 2010 (except BAM which I only made it half way through). AMA.

>>25345020
And that includes all Yarvin's and Nick Land's NRx work as well.

>>25344972
Israeli spies to the left of me, Trump 1 e-celebs to the right

Here I am

Stuck in the middle with the jews

>>25345020
What did you learn?

>>25345037
I felt it was sad that clearly very intelligent writers were out there making satirical commentary on the 2010's but were largely ignored because it was not PC. Behead All Satans and its sequel is truly intelligent writing by someone educated and with life experience. It was a very amusing read but both books are firmly dated in the YouTube/blogger age of last decade. I'd love to see more work from him for the 2020's but sadly he seems burnt out and there was no support for his work.
Yarvin is genuinely a quite funny and intelligent writer, easy to read and he makes some compelling arguments. I think people latch on to the provocative things he says for attention and what he is really saying is just stating the obvious of what is happening to the world at a glacier's pace. These NRx guys are trying to get in early on the corporate balkanization that is occurring and are offering alternatives to the faux progressive "liberal democracy" which has failed so many people post-WW2.
Ma's work is not particularly worthwhile, just entertaining if you like those kind of Twitter posts. There is one part where he dissects the clothing choices of a middle aged man at Denny's which is probably the one intelligent thing in the book. BAP's book is the same way but even more worthless. The faux ESL style he uses is extremely forced and hard to get through.
Land is completely burnt out and senile and has been ghost written by Yarvin and Theil's team for a long time, starting with Dark Enlightenment. There is no point reading him at all if you read Yarvin. Land's Lovecraftian cyberpunk fiction is absolutely terrible. You can tell it was not written by the same ghost writing team as Dark Enlightenment but by Land himself and it is honestly middle school tier. Embarrassing stuff.
Delicious Tacos is quite entertaining, but nothing particularly biting if you were looking to "learn" something. Behead All Satans without the critique, just a funny, non-PC narrative.

>>25344974
He is right and the amount of seething this post still produces is amazing.
The modern right-wing is majorly composed by a bunch of hicks with zero taste that take pride on being anti-intellectuals.
The only few real artists on the right are actually a bunch of spiritual leftists who want to be seen as worthy by leftist intellectual circles. BAP has more friends in nyc's "dirtbag left" scene than in the actual right-wing, for example.

>>25345085
You consider BAP a "real artist"? Leftists are fucking retarded lol

>>25344974
This is bait. First of all the “right” don’t control shit. The (((Republican party))), secondly leftists don’t understand right wing philosophy, they don’t actually read it. Also the Alt right is dead, and neither of those writers were really ever part of it.

>>25344972
Now mention the best the left could come up with after a decade of having the power

>>25344972
Leftists tongue my nigger anus

>>25344974
>but the smarter ones will quietly acknowledge that anyone with a modicum of aesthetic sense, taste, or ability is on the left in today's culture
This is pretty good bait.

When was the last time a Leftist actually wrote anything of value or influence? same with art in general. No one is making anything of value, regardless of political views.

>>25344974
>we're talking about people who still get oneshotted by modernism a century after the fact
Fucking brutal. Also kinda true, if we're being honest

>>25345305
>When was the last time a Leftist actually wrote anything of value or influence?
"Value" is highly subjective, I think some 20th century leftists like Foucault, Debord or Benjamin had some interesting ideas.
Influence, idk really. Nobody is really getting "influenced" by books anymore, they get input from social media trends and legacy pop culture. I guess Naomi Klein was popular back in the Bush era?

>>25344972
QRD on what Harassment Architecture is?

>>25344972
Bronze Age Pervert is a homosexual.

>>25345377
Google it, retard.

>>25345965
>Jewgle

>>25345970
Do a web search, retard.

>>25345973
>Jeweb search

>>25344972
I saw someone's nice liberal mom selling 'Harassment Architecture' on fb marketplace for 3 dollars. I didn't have the heart to tell her what it was. It was being sold with 5 or 6 other books including the hobbit and the unabomber manifesto (lol). I'm assuming her son either killed himself or went to college and left them behind out of embarassment.

>>25344974
This is true. Mike Ma wrote 'Harassment Architecture' because, despite being a nazi and a necrophile, he was fantasizing about a GQ profile for his edgy and transgressive masterpiece. Nevermind the fact that it's rehashing degenerate postmodern "unreliable narrator" structuring or that it has no real meaning. You can't blame rightists for wanting the cultural purchase of 2014 era buzzfeed liberalism, fun office jobs, speaking tours, book deals, risk-free careers in media and entertainment.

One of the most convenient things about being on the Left is that they can just blame all of their own behavior on the Right. Rightists never infiltrate Left-wing organisations because normal people don't like being around freaks, but the reverse is very much not true; Leftists love being in the company of the Right. So when you get a Thiel-funded Jewish sodomite who has nothing but deep contempt for Western civilisation spouting filth the Left can just claim all of his obvious flaws are a product of the Right, because that's what he's being paid to posture as.

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>>25346052
>Rightists never infiltrate Left-wing organizations
Holy revisionism. This has been the number one tactic of the CIA/FBI for over half a century. Quit being retarded

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>>25345377
A 200 page X shitpost.

>>25346147
>right wing is when CIA

>>25345984
>went to college and left them behind out of embarassment.
typical college kid

>>25345051
>Delicious Tacos is quite entertaining, but nothing particularly biting if you were looking to "learn" something
him and I got into a fight on twitter years ago.

>>25344974
>Implying the Republican Party is right-wing

>>25344972
>>25344974
>old thread dies
>immediately make new one

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I think one of the more fascinating implications of this "There's good right-wing books!" claim is that the ethnic stock who produced virtually all literature in the past (white males from Europe, east or west, and their global offshoots such as North America) now appear to produce less than 10% of it. Certainly not in quantities that give the prevailing literary world any kind of hope comparable to a mere century ago. And in place of this ethnic stock is a strange new realm of female-written, ethnic-written booklets that possess maybe a tenth of the depth those old white male books possess, from strength of language to the book's actual themes, content or ideas. Yet this disparity doesn't seem to phase them nor their publishers; in fact they seem pretty gleeful to fire-bomb any pretense or tradition literature once possessed. It's incredibly difficult to enter the world of reading, writing and selling books and not find a single person of influence, be it writer or publisher, who doesn't adopt a big happy smile at the mention of white males no longer "having a place" in the written world. They say as much on social media, X to Linkedin, so I can't humor the idea anything I've said is a conspiracy. Even a readily-excused "vocal minority" who does not receive backlash (and instead retains their lofty position) further cements the issue.

I find it all fascinating because the situation I describe closely mirrors Frankfurt notions of tearing down established traditions and elements of culture, then replacing them with subversive Weimar-esque thought. The end goal being not mere demoralization but firm, irreplaceable institutions who can't be replaced without threatening the lifeblood (economy; comfort) that keeps everyone complying with the social contract. If we look past the basic Chat GPT claims like "Publishing houses have become highly commercialized and risk-averse" and study history, it's very easy to see what's been done and continues to be done.

>>25345051
>the land-hate
extremely fucking cringe, dark enlightment and land's fascist writings are what you move onto after you finally grok yarvin's stuff

>>25346622
>nick land fan in 2026
kek

>>25346627
>still not getting nick land in 2026 after having 14 years since tde
kek

>>25346622
>>25346627
>>25346636
you want be smart so bad kek

>>25346674
Are you the guy who wouldn't stop spamming
>I'm smart and I belong here
when you got into an argument? Haven't seen you in a bit

>>25345005
And yet barely anyone has heard of BaS (which, by the way, seems to have potentially influenced Mike Ma). What does this tell us?

>>25346684
you will never be smart or win arguments kek

>>25346695
lots of people have heard of it? the book is difficult to get though because it's not being published

>>25346695
>barely anyone has heard of BaS
that shit was spammed here hard newguy

>>25346490
this sort of discourse was common in 2016 and was popular for a few years until tiktok zoomies decided it was "cringe" and all the grifting inflooencers moved on to other topics. nothing can be built or improved in a society where clout-chasing and grifting is the highest virtue, so people with destructive and malicious intent are allowed to wreak havoc freely

>>25345000
Its a few books boosted on amazon
No one cares about this garbage except jews and the most tuned out of golems

>>25346878
t. golem

>>25346859
>>25346865
I'm talking in terms of general public who reads literary fiction. The book was rated 69 times on goodreads after 11 years. Lol you're inhabiting a microscopic bubble.

>>25344974
epstein class isn't right wing

>>25346941
This is cope

>>25346940
pretty much anyone posting about bas is mnmdr himself, he has nothing better to do than shill his dogshit book.

>>25346622
Have you actually read Dark Enlightenment? It has numerous name drops of Yarvin and Thiel, including to follow Yarvin on substack and Twitter. Thiel bought Land out because he was a darling of the Left and Land was already burnt out living in Shanghai as an English teacher writing absolutely terrible cyberpunk Lovecraftian fiction novels. I like Yarvin and agree with him on many points. I've read Land pre-burn out and post-burn out. You need to be smarter here.

>>25347122
I've read a few times, and its sequel which is even smarter, but a bit less accessible than BaS. I really wish he had not injected all the shock tactic "nigger/jew/fag" things. It didn't add to the work and it filters it for many average readers. It's a genuinely smart work. I read it on PDF first and then bought the print versions on Amazon. I doubt you've read it. Or very much of anything for that matter.

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>>25344974
I fucked your mother in her pussy and asshole

>>25347177
good morning saar

>>25347182
I'm not Indian, but I did come into your mother enough times to impregnate her.

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>>25347168
stfu retard. i read bas 5+ years ago and even fell down the escapingmnmdr rabbit hole at the time.
and for your info I've finished 65 books so far this year, I guarantee I read more than you.
shill the dogshit book elsewhere

>>25347213
>stfu retard. i read bas 5+ years ago and even fell down the escapingmnmdr rabbit hole at the time.
Not an argument. And you seem really mad. I will accept your concession that you have never read either of his works.

The peak was the dimes square shit and that barely lasted a few years, maybe less. The reality is that the “dissident right” is already conceding by trying to ape left wing aesthetics to appear more interesting than they are.
Harassment Architecture has the same depth as Rupi Kaur’s poetry, they’re just ideologically opposed. A fat lesbian waxing nostalgic over her breasts is no more poignant than a guy bemoaning how he can’t throw rocks into people’s windshields; it’s all too sentimental and masturbatory. You need a level of self awareness before you start sounding like a parody of what you’re trying to convey, which is the only reason Mike Ma was given grace to begin with. They thought it was a American Psycho-esque satire, but no it’s just terrible confessional prose poetry

>>25347226
>mucho texto
I'm fucking your mom

>>25347219
oh yea man I'm straight up fuming. I'm in tears actually because some random retard claims I didn't read a book 5 years ago. ya got me anon, keep shilling, i'm sure another 5 people will read it in the next decade.

>>25347232
>>25347235
>Mind-broken from the slightest pushback
This is why no one takes you seriously

>>25347165
>It mentions Thiel and Yarvin so therefore they ghostwrote it
Literally most braindead retarded take I've ever heard please just kill yourself. And yes I've read it - dozens of times.
>Thiel bought Land
Genuine schizophrenic and delusional thinking, seek help. What are you, a "based" crypto-marxist reading things too far out your comfort zone? It's dangerous for you be this aware.
>I like Yarvin and agree with him on many points.
Then you should be able to see that while Yarvin is the interesting probings of a nerd blogger with his time on his hands thinking about a different way of interpreting history, Land builds upon his work a philosophical framework for neoreactionary dialectic and has the most scathing analysis to make of the leftist project and modern leftist trends (which have only intensified to greater extremes since has written of them, much of it reads like prescient future-telling vision today). It feels like you've probably only read The Dark Enlightment and not his dozens of other blog posts from the era, which could be the other thing I could think of to lead you to believe something so stupid like Thiel bought him out when Land had been writing the same stuff for 4 years since '08.

>>25347268
>the other thing
the only thing*
I genuinely can't fathom what would make someone think Yarvin is okay but TDE is too far and must have been "bought" by Thiel (who you somehow assumingly feel is bad, despite agreeing with yarvin?).

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>>25344972
A lot of "right" thinking or philosophy is largely based in action and experience with really the only right wing stuff being written down being either super-autistic metaphysical bullshit and equally autistic ideological garbage i.e. guys with too much time who haven't touched grass in awhile. This is why for example boards like /lit/ and /his/ largely hate guys like Nietzsche and Ernst Junger because they give the exact opposite of Platonic style thinking where many want to have a philosophy or ideology that tries to explain the truth or some metaphysical reality to reality whereas a lot of right wing thinking deals more in ontology and phenomenology, especially through action.

tl;dr most right wing literature, especially modern right wing literature comes primarily from schizo hyper autists who get lost in their own sauce.

>>25347268
>>25347272
I actually read it so often that it's like my little red book, here's the first quote that came to my mind when I opened it:
>It’s perfectly obvious by this point that American political history has progressed along twin, interlocking tracks, corresponding to the capacity and the legitimation of the state. To cast doubt upon its scale and scope is to simultaneously dispute the sanctity of its purpose, and the moral-spiritual necessity that it command whatever resources, and impose whatever legal restraints, may be required to effectively fulfill it. More specifically, to recoil from the magnitude of Leviathan is to demonstrate insensitivity to the immensity – indeed, near infinity – of inherited racial guilt, and the sole surviving categorical imperative of senescent modernity – government needs to do more. The possibility, indeed near certainty, that the pathological consequences of chronic government activism have long ago supplanted the problems they originally targeted, is a contention so utterly maladapted to the epoch of democratic religion that its practical insignificance is assured.
How could you possibly this Thiel or Yarvin are smart enough to write this pose? Not even mentioning the eloquence with which he describes modern lefto-maoist evangelicalism.

>>25345377
Architecture designed to harass people.

>>25345377
Fine, I'll give you a real answer. Schizophrenic ecofascist novella about an unnamed narrator who fantasizes about committing horrific acts of senseless violence and then actually commits those acts, interspersed with snappy chuddisms against women, jews, blacks, etc. Objectively, it's disjointed, over-earnest, and too performatively edgy to be good -- if you're on 4chan you've already read the book in a sense, most of it is overwritten /pol/screeds and /lit/ Uncle Ted greentexts. I still like it though, it's a fascinating entry in the "transgressive novel" category because it's so sincere. Not a hint of satire in the whole thing. At first you think he's joking and you start to laugh, and then you realize he's not joking at all, which is somehow more amusing

>>25347268
>>25347277
Read Land's Chasm or Phyl-Undhu. Read a few of his essays from Fanged Noumena. Read the last essay in Dark Enlightenment (which seems like it was thrown into DE for both padding and to retain some semblance of the old Land into that propaganda piece. Then read Yarvin's blog. You tell me that the majority of DE is in Land's voice. Consider that Thiel is heavily invested in supporting NRx via cultural patronage. Consider he is a billionaire and Yarvin a multi-millionaire while Land lives hand to mouth teaching English in Shanghai. Your emotional, profane outbursts do not further our cause at all. You are a kind of brand tribalist who has latched on to Land for your identity and any polite discussion regarding authorship has sent you on a tirade, no a tantrum, that has been embarrassing to read. If you really want, I will give you excerpts from his work and Yarvin's that make this more explicit. But I feel like it would be a waste of my time as you are a zealot. If you actually believe in Land's current persona, then you should have no problem feeding any pre-2000s written essays from him and parts of Dark Enlightenment and some of Yarvin's published work into a LLM and see what it tells you about voice and writing style. Or you can keep coping and crying like a child I guess.

>>25346953
I'm gonna cope of a feel of your sisters tits

>>25344974
Am I alone with the feeling that this was actually a chud pretending to be a lefty, trying to make lefties look bad? It's just...too stereotypical.

>>25347381
Leftists have gone beyond the ability to lampoon them for a long time now. They're semi-human drones who humiliate themselves by lying in any way imaginable just in the hope that a chud (read: mentally stable individual) might feel irritated or confused for a brief moment by their display of stupidity.

>>25347343
>Read the last essay in Dark Enlightenment
You mean the one where he diverts the furthest from nerdbro right wing blogger stuff and starts talking about hyper-racism and the techno-elite genetically modifying themselves into new species? Yeah, I think I read that part in Dawkins Got Pwned. Retard.

Another obvious politics-bait thread on the literature board that will go to seven hundred replies, maybe two of which will discuss the contents of an actual book. Cool.
I shouldn't complain, I'm guilty of engaging with these too.

>>25347343
>the rest of the post i didnt read before making my last post
Holy fuck you really are retarded please just kill yourself so you stop poisoning the discourse. Tired of the only mentions of land being by retarded people who are only even aware of his word because they le hecking hate thiel. Die out redditor

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>>25344972
Delicious Tacos maybe?

>Thiel and Yarvin NEEDED to mouthpiece and ghostwrite through this completely forgotten english philosopher because.... they just did, okay?
Jesus fucking christ it's all so fucking retarded, fuck. Everyone's so fucking stupid.

>>25347390
Bad skin tone.
She looks like a corpse.

>>25347395
Literally the perfect body, Mr. Blind Homo

>>25347385
Bitch, why the fuck are you even ITT? Oh boohoo muh board quality shut the fuck up you little baby! Just coming in here to whine and shiet. Goddamn FUCK man. Bitch ass mothafucka! Fuck you bitch! Why u even posting? Like shiet. Fuck you bitch!

>>25347434
True, gigatrue, it'd be more productive to just leave.
This board has been nothing but political sperging, low quality ragebait and dfw spam for the last five years, no amount of complaining will change anything.
Thanks for the life advice, brave melanated friend. On god, no cap, for real, nigga!

>>25345006
blah blah blah the left
shut the fuck up

>>25345006
>no u

>>25345051
>progressive "liberal democracy"
if there were a progressive liberal democracy in america, bernie would be president.

so shut the fuck up with your cliches. it hasnt failed anyone because it has never been in charge, since LBJ of all people and getting abortion rights.

NEOREACTIONARY DIALECTIC
lol

>>25347473
I immediately posted in another thread five minutes after saying this
>you're here forever

>>25344974
yeah elon musk or whatever right wing billionaire could easily fund the publishing of dozens of political books, but they don't. Right wing literature is of no monetary value, and by the rights own operating mechanics with money, that makes right wing literature worthless and a waste of time. No serious right winger tries to write literature because they know the right wing - and no one - wants it. The almighty free market has decided right wing writers are worthless.
Plenty of left wing books dont make money but they still get paid for because there are leftie billionaires that care to throw away their money on publishing houses, righties dont do this

>>25347499
But the two books in the OP became big underground hits, so clearly there is some sort of demand for right-wing literature. The problem lies with a) publishers can't/won't risk getting branded with the chud iron, and b) self-published writers are too inept to promote their work (which is not a burden that should be entirely placed on them; no writer can be expect to write and edit and typeset and proofread and design and print and stock and ship and advertise their own work).

>>25345051
Yeah, your take on Land seems off. I suspect your sample might have been too small since he has written quite a bit. Xenosystems alone would take weeks to get through. Crypto-Current is actually a philosophy of everything. And he has written 80k posts on twitter, a subset of which is excellent aphoristic writing. Haven't yet tried reading his fiction.

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>>25344972
right? since when?

>>25344972
So dissident right is just a Jewish psyop?

>>25347523
>no writer can be expect to write and edit and typeset and proofread and design and print and stock and ship and advertise their own work).
really?
right wing bitch doesnt want to work and isnt a tradie or a crafty or self made.
FUCKING LOL

>>25347695
bam spine doesn't look like that

>>25347725
Always has been

>>25347735
Poor quality bait

>>25347296
>over-earnest
Don't really understand this criticism. Not everything has to be ironic, in fact I think the novel explicitly critiques irony. Also there are like one or two passages where the narrator reflects his own performative tendencies and questions himself and his persona.

>>25345122
No, but he's just the best the right has to offer nowadays (even according to rightoids themselves), which just shows how deep into the mud they are.

>>25347746
to you.
I do all of that.
Fuck you.

>>25347869
You don't do jackshit, it's obvious from the obnoxious way you talk that you are just aping a stereotypical leftist redditor for a pitiful (you)

>>25347894
yeah ok bb.
right wing cuks cant do shit and youre proof too.

i have to give props to that steroid guy from million dollar extreme or whatever cuz he was the first person who recognized there was a market for these kind books for right wing teens. he was first to market by years.

>>25347213
>im so clever look at my gay little gamified goytracker thing
hahaha

>>25344972
they all just sold out their asses to israel in exchange for very low Thiel-paychecks, not even normiecons turned out to be so embarrassing, at least normiecons actually made fortunes

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pretty sure that's not what i meant...

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>>25346953
>"right" wing is when you let J*w pedos engage in sex trafficking and don't prosecute their associates or customers
>"right" wing is when you let a J*wish lobby serving a foreign nation spend tens of millions influencing your elections
hmm. I'm just saddened by the fact that the "left" wing in the country has never ever been in power ever, or else they surely would make sure that such things couldn't happen! Or at the very least would prosecute the evildoers.

>>25347369
My sister is 8-years old.

>>25347434
Didn't know they had computers in the 'hood.

>>25344972
Alt rightoids only care about the feeling of power, and often they frame themselves either as the persecuted victim or as the law doling out the real justice, depending on the situation, because for them the feeling of the direction of the power differential is more important than what is done with it. It’s why they frame others in similar (though much less noble ways) trannys are both seen as this class of people who are too weak to do anything and then also these hulking men depending on the context (military service vs bathroom debate). Which makes them a perpetual foil to change with their preferred sense of their own power.

>>25347680
>Crypto-Current
>When captured at its zenith of abstraction and technical rigor, the defining proposition of the left is that depoliticization is still politics (and more specifically, a politics). This is not a proposition that can be limited to theoretical clarification. It is a project, and even a prophecy. The anti-political will be re-absorbed into the political, according to this fundamental formula. The whole of ‘class war’ is contained within it. Its complement, on the side of capital, is an equally practical – and no less antagonistic – commitment to escape. The left thus recognizes its enemy, with striking realism, as an emergent – and intrinsically fractured – agent of social dissolidarity. A crucial asymmetry has to be immediately noted. The ‘struggle’ here is not even imaginably one-on-one. Capital is essentially capitals, at war among themselves. It advances only through disintegration. If – not at all unreasonably – the basic vector of capital is identified with a tendency to social abandonment, what it abandons most originally is itself. That is why the left finds itself so commonly locked in a fight to defend what capital is from what it threatens to become. Bitcoin tells us – more clearly than any other innovation – what it is becoming next, by escaping transcendent governance in principle.
Land is such a brilliant author. I don't know how anyone could be so retarded to think it's all just paid Thiel pieces.

>>25347956
>Alt rightoids only care about the feeling of power
All politics are fundamentally about self interest and will to power, only dishonest people pretend otherwise

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>>25347956
>the feeling of power

>>25347956
>trannys are... men
trvke.

>>25346147
remember when the SPLC just got exposed for giving millions to "right wing" groups?

>>25347964
I wouldn’t disagree but the fundamental self interest here is the feeling of the ego being either protected (I am a victim) or rewarded (I am so powerful), and for the voting body of the right wingers in America this interest supersedes other interests. I think it is very reminiscent of the kind of shame allergy that people with npd have where the frame of view changes as a protective or reinforcing measure. And I think that is well demonstrated in the few forms of art alt right wingers create (which are often extreme power fantasies while the person is being persecuted). I think this can be seen as a response to evangelical sermon being so focused on persecutory fantasy and also the feeling of America following the post war boom (where the economic conditions no longer have the same optimism they used to).

tbc it’s not as though the left or far left in America are pure of heart and morals and act without ego, it’s just that this thread is about right wingers

>>25347972
*seen as

Also I don’t think a fairly common opinion can rly be considered a truth nuke

>>25344974
That post is retarded, nationalists are not in power, a coalition of christian zionists, jewish supremacists, and businesses representatives are. Trump literally ignored every promise he gave to his base and started a war for Israel instead. If you are lied, you are i fact no responsible for the fact that a system lied to you.

Here the right is different from the left, left-winger get what they want on basically every issue except they don't get to seize every company in the country and Israel. But, they also don't care that much about Israel, it mostly function as rhetorical tool to blood libel whites and remove blame from jews.

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>>25347956
>(military service vs bathroom debate). Which makes them a perpetual foil to change with their preferred sense of their own power.

You're a disingenuous idiot, a fat, weak, retarded man can easily rape a little, especially if he looks here in a bathroom stall. In very left-wing or heavily zionist areas, they just get away with it.

>>25347993
I'm a literal fag and this shit disgusts me. I never go to "Pride" parades because they range from embarassing to disgusting.

>>25347993
I’m sure one could rape a little, my point though is about framing and perception, not what is in fact realistic or not realistic, or possible or impossible. The framing of the same group of people changes depending on the preferred power differential

>>25348001
>there are trannies that are hulking men
>and there are trannies that are weak faggots
>clearly this is a hypocritical opinion to hold therefore all right wingers are invalid and im right >:)

>>25345977
I accept your concession.

>>25348012
I don’t think the perception of form really reflect that, take the military ban for instance, never did it delineate between hulking and effete. Nor do sports bans. They are sweeping in their characterizations.

>>25348214
Your every post just makes me want to hang you from a light pole more.

>>25347243
>*Incoherent faggot babbling*
I'm still piping your mother, and she loves it.

>>25348222
>More mind-broken seething
You've been humiliated so completely that turned yourself into a broken record for my entertainment. Dance, monkey, dance.

>>25348220
Now you see where in the schema you are right now, yes?

>>25347964
That's a pretty reductive way to frame it, though, because self-interest can run the gamut from imprisoning other groups and stealing their shit to improving all of society because your ideology says that's what helps you the most.
The right champion a very grievance-based politics of resentment, and care more about asserting themselves over other groups than improving society as a whole. I think that anon is very right when he says:
>for them the feeling of the direction of the power differential is more important than what is done with it.
Take mass immigration for example. Theoretically the complaint about mass migration is: "many behaviors are determined by genes, immigrants have worse genes, so letting them in makes the nation worse."
Now, if you actually believe immigrants come from worse genetic stock than whites, this is a pretty reasonable complaint. Who would want their nation to get permanently, irrevocably worse?
But in practice, right wingers don't act in a reasonable, policy-oriented way to minimize mass migration. You could catch 90% of illegal immigrants by promising them citizenship and $10,000 if they register on such-and-such database, and then just immediately deporting them without giving them anything once you get their information.
The right doesn't do this though. Instead they do stupid shit like build walls (even though they don't reduce immigration) station the military on the border (even though it hasn't been proven to reduce immigration) and launch very violent and public campaigns of mass deportation (even though such things make immigrants hide, and you could catch 10x as much if you did the same thing silently, in the sneaky sort of way I mentioned earlier).
Why? Because the goal isn't really the preservation of the nation's genetic character, it's to reinforce a feeling of power and ability in the right. They would prefer to very publicly deport 100,000 immigrants in an embarrassing way than silently and efficiently deport 2,000,000.

>>25348214
If there's a 50% chance a tranny is a weak faggot that won't contribute then they shouldn't be in the army, and if there's a 50% chance that a tranny would outcompete women due to hulking man genetics then they shouldn't be in sports. It is perfectly capable to make both generalizations without being contradictory.

What the FUCK is this?

https://x.com/beenvril/status/2064439025558061439

>>25348372
The army has always had fitness requirements no? Why would they not be applicable here too

>>25344972
Hunter
Serpent's Walk
Unintended Consequences
HA Covington books
The classics still exist

>>25344974
Even a majority in Congress can't do much that often.

>>25344972
It's as embarrassing as punk bands putting out nothing during Trump's terms. They also mostly went silent under Obama and Biden.

>>25344972
We care, we don't read.

>>25348384
Also mental health requirements. It's bad for people with a mental illness that statistically has a high suicide rate to be in the army before they even get out of the army.

>>25344974
beautifully said, the kind of post which will live in their heads forever

>>25344972
lit is dead, check twitter. the heavy-handed passages laced into narratives that authors used to put into their stories get posted directly without the filler now!

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>>25344972
>>25345085
Dr. Edward Dutton is a massive chud, and he's written lots of books.

https://www.amazon.com/Books-Edward-Dutton/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AEdward%2BDutton

>>25344974
You can tell this is correct because of the sheer amount of cope in the replies

>>25344974
This guy always blatantly samefags when he posts this.

>>25348811
>>25348855
I had my share of political whining online. Now I realize there is no point to debating anything. He must be a fresh new 15 year old ready to waste 10 years on vapid witticisms!

>>25344974
This is uncharitable (and the part about political obligation over aesthetic value applies equally well to "woke" contemporary literature) but not entirely wrong. The right's younger, more online strains aspire toward something beautiful, and occasionally they sort of attain it, but they're in the deep minority compared to the rest of the right ie MAGAtards and it's plainly true that MAGAtards don't know anything about aesthetics and don't care to learn
>>25348855
/lit/ isn't a left wing board by any stretch of the imagination, it's still 4chan, but let's not pretend the only people here are on the right

>>25348871
>it's plainly true that MAGAtards don't know anything about aesthetics and don't care to learn
we need to sticky this