"AMOGUS" editionPrevious: >>25336333 /wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Shitposters should be ignored and reported.>Beginner guides on writing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKcbvioxFk>Intermediate guides on writing:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48654.Storyhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3097766-borges-on-writinghttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23056.Image_Music_Text>Advanced guide on writing:Just do it.
The other day I had a friend read some of my work and they didn't have much to say about it. A while ago, I got so sensitive to reader feedback that it sent me into a writer block rut that lasted for a pretty long time. How do I go about not giving a shit about what my readers think?
>>25346336low testosterone issue
>>25346336My friend once (years ago) asked me to send him some of my short stories. I knew he won't read it anyway. Some time later he told me his gf (now wife) enjoyed it. I especially liked that she considered it very authentic, becouse aspects of it were connected to her field of expertise.
Almost done with the draft to the "short" story I have been working on for the last few months. Hopefully I can lock in and get it finished on my last day or so off. Then I can edit it up a bit and try to get feedback. Finally can move on to another story idea. This time I will outline first and see if I can make it a similar length but write it much faster. Even if it doesn't work, I really like this idea so don't mind if it takes just as long. I mean I still would mind a little. I really want my drafting to be a lot faster, but hopefully it comes with practice and actually finishing stories more consistently. Might try a bunch of proper actually short stories after my next project. Like a series of 2-4k word stories within the same setting or around a particular character. Ideally I would complete a story that length once a week. But I babble.
>>25346313>50K words!50k words!>50k words!50k words!10-20k more to go, have been working on this first draft for last 10 months. The good news? Have it all planned out. The bad news? Wanted to have 1st draft by July (won't make that).
Every year countless books are published. How can you even hope to get a single reader in the sea of garbage? What's even the point when you know you will fail before you even began?
>>25346403how are readers supposed to keep up with 296,368 different characters?
>>25346404My novel has had a single reader.
>>25346404how many truly GREAT books have ever been written? maybe 20 or 30? write one of those or close to it, and the sea of garbage has no relevance to you.
>>25346407yea, (you)>>25346410I bet you a million bucks a few GREAT novels have been made but they have gone by unnoticed, lost in a sea of endless slop. If Tolkien published today he would be lucky if he got 5 readers.
>>25346428thanks for your incredibly dumb blackpill take, bro.
>>25346406jej
>>25346404>How can you even hope to get a single reader in the sea of garbage?pray to st. luigi and you will find the answer in your heart
I will never make it :(
>>25346567sounds complete to me. is this AI feedback?
>>25346625GrokI don't even think I use AI for analysis. I just use it to glaze me and motivate me to keep going. I know it's hollow
>>25346336If theyre that good, why dont they write it? Thats right, they dont. Only you who are so unique and special does. So why listen to anyone elses opinion?
I've finished a short story, that started as a challenge with my partner, what do I do with it now? how do I even get someone to read it for feedback?
>>25346662>partnerMaybe you should go suck a cock, homo.
>>25346567What prompt did you use to get it to actually give you feedback and not just glaze you?
Boor, and TB, i think you have a real shot at winning this.https://bestindiebookaward.com/submit/product/best-indie-book-award-entry/
>>25346665yea nice one mate
>>25346666I always use incognito mode so no previous memories affect the response.
>>25346676i am sick to death of cloudfare captchsas
i dont know why i should write. this is gonna sound faggy but i cant start writing simply because i dont see the purpose in it. like i'll write about something some event some characters but it doesnt matter and theres no point to it in the end. ill write up some bullshit and never feel satisfied with it. it just feels so pointless and i cant just enjoy the process without rushing it all
>>25346766>i dont know why i should write.Well, maybe you should find a reason to write and THEN write, you dumb retard.If you write without anything to say it's like opening your mouth to speak just to make some noise.
>>25346628AI thinks in terms of machine perfection, I think the critiques it's mentioning aren't worth considering. Self-indulgent isn't bad, structurally chaotic isn't bad, rants overstaying aren't bad, insufferable isn't bad.
>>25346676This reads more like a 32 year old pitchfork writer no. Dogshit rl
I just teared up reading my own writing
I just tored up my own writing
I tore up my ass while writing
>>25346851>AI thinks in terms of machine perfectionNo it doesn't>I think the critiques it's mentioning aren't worth considering.Correct
>>25346998The grueling grind of an Amazon monster coomfic writer.
>>25346567If you family hasn't lived here for 200+ years kindly keep my country out of your gay ass fanfiction
>>25347002LOL
>>25346999oh god here we go again "it's an LLM it's just stringing words together that it thinks will come next based on probability!!!" no, that's not all AI is anymore, sorry bud.
>>25347003My family has been in Appalachia for centuries. I’ve lived in Kentucky my whole life, and my ancestors are from VA and WV. I’m an Appalachian nationalist, bubby
Well, I finished the first draft of my first screenplay, here's ChatGPT's gradeGot a lot of work to do I guess
>>25346668I don't give a shit about awards. I want readers, and I doubt this award would earn me very many
>>25347054Now send it the same thing in fresh context but tell it that it's your refined final draft and ask what it thinks.You'll understand why AI is useless for this.
>>25346668>award contest>entry feeHAHAHA what the fuck is this scam?
>>25347103Basically the same.Also, since I was powering through to the end, I did 1,800 words today.
>>25346668Instead of simply publishing and competing for attention against the hundreds of other writers putting work out this week, you can now spend $75.00 (per category) to compete with a smaller subset and, maybe, win an award you have never heard of, from an organisation you don't care about, previously won by books you've never read.Still, this may be the only chance you ever get to mar your carefully crafted cover with a golden 'award winner' sticker.
>>25347113All you said is that it's your final draft and you went from above average to good with professional potential.
I think abandoning the idea of writing conventionally well and writing intuitively for my own logic and taste is the only way I'm ever going to be happy during and with my work again. Problem is, I'm not sure how.
>>25347139*and instead writing
>>25347113Why is it assuming you're asking on behalf of a student that is looking for a next development step? Did you actually prompt a fresh context by telling it you're at the final stage or did you just lie to us?
>>25347139Already way ahead of you, anon.I'm just going to write what feels good and not what some fart sniffer how to write books bookseller thinks.
>>25347116Takes money to make money
>>25347180Then get a job and do stocks.
Anyone else ever making something so good by accident one time, something that totally mogs your other stuff, to the point where you're like, "Fuck, hold on, do I just copy this and turn it into a formula from now on? Do I take any big lesson from this...? Or do I just try to forget about it and move on?"
>>25347194Nope.
>>25347130>>25347143Here's the prompt for the first one. I didn't save the second one since I always used Temporary Chats. But, I edited to say that the script was the final for the class and will determine the grade. Maybe it assumes the student wants to try and sell the script.
>>25347147I mean, like Banville says, we're all utterly on our own for this sort of thing BUT do you have anything you noticed when making the transition from one mindset to the other? how did you deprogram yourself?as it stands now, I'm finally getting why all non fanfiction writing sucks. I've been turning it into a slog by playing a moving goalposts game with a bunch of strangers.
>>25347216>>25347147There still is a standard you should still follow. You shouldn't slap together sone Frankenstein of a book.
