Do you find that you can just ape and steal directly from books, and modern audiences will not know or care even if you tell them? That the idea of reading any book is such an impossibility to them, that the ‘derivative of much better works’ issue is actually the backbone of an entire media industry? I mean you can basically just copy pages out of Burroughs and they will call your cartoon genius and no one will ever know. Video games also have a huge problem with this. Im wondering if I should join the business of flatly copying great books the public will never read
>>25351978Copying is silvern, stealing is gold.
Walk into B&N and most of those books you see, especially the fantasy/YA/etc. ones, look straight up made by AI, every single thing about them. Judge those books by their covers. This is the world we live in now, and it’s funny how most people have forgotten the actual generative potential of LLM.
On both /tv/ and /v/ I have had people fully fight me for saying Stalker (and Metro) are based on Roadside Picnic. People get so upset when they find out their favorite work isn’t its own primary source, that they deny it and call you delusional
>copy book from centuries ago>change all characters, story, setting, lore, scenes, prose, et cetera>profit
>>25352068Its a modern retelling of ‘dog walks into tavern’ I’m unironically going to do Bartleby the Scrivener in comic form to be about the modern NEET
>>25352021don't worry about it anon people that don't read aren't human anyways so
>>25351978Are you implying XRA copied Burroughs or some other author? If so I'd like to hear you defend that. Being influenced sure but copying? They're not even the same medium.
in more visual works of fiction, it's incredibly easy, especially since TV/comic/game/movie enjoyers are more likely to be flat-out ignorant. a book is a different story. you're still filling out a 300-400 page book with prose, I don't think believe it's as plagiarist
>>25351978what if somebody comes up with the same idea years after without even knowing somebody did that, isn't that possible? it's something I always tell myself when I have an idea. "somebody already did that"
>>25352154nothing new under the sun
>>25352154I do not believe in plagiarism, nor that thralls like authors own intangible ideas. If it's old, steal and hold; if it's modern, not my problem.
>>25352173>I do not believe in plagiarismyou will when you get sued if you're too blatant
>>25352177The dead can't sue you.
>>25352173if you can re-pipe some classics to resurface the symbols and ideas contained therein, it's a win for anyone who reads it, weather he ever knows the original or not
>>25352181or can they?
>>25352123This. They are apes.
>>25352206Wait, I heard this before...
>>25352131Pretty much every joke is found somewhere in Naked Lunch or the cut-up trilogy. Trak Trak Trak Succotash come on win some cash! Multiple Mayan Capers. Etc
>>25352135Video game players also seem to think every video game song is first in its genre. Ive had Final Fantasy fans ask me which game ELP’s Tarkus was from
Nor do they know that Banjo Kazooie’s pause music is the Second Threepenny Finale
>>25352259XRA is good about turning it into full original skits doe
>>25352273It is, it just makes me realize i can take my favorite book and rewrite it in another genre or medium and nobody will notice
>>25351978There are two things to consider about copying.For the first one, you have to consider that no matter the content, at the end of the day is the style the quality that carries an artwork. Even a lot of old works are retellings or "remakes" of other stories but told in different styles, which is why originals works are often overlooked in favour of derivate works that handle the work contents but in better style.The other is that there's a threshold on the line of copies you can make out of a work before the final result becomes mush. At some point it becomes unintelligible, vapid, pure content with no substance or style of its own. Prime examples of this are indie games that are a rehash of the developer's favourite video games. In literature, this is most common in fantasy and science fiction.
>>25352259>>25352298That seems less like copying and more like making references, like how early Spongebob had lines referencing Ween's Mollusk album.
Familiar with Kenneth Goldsmith anyone?
>>25351978Yeah but the problem is who's going to set you up so that you receive money from it?
>>25352344Me, because my work has it’s own income stream where it’s posted (Its not literature, either)
Burroughs was very influential or far seeing when it came to internet humor. But neither Burroughs nor Lish, who the creators at least said they were inspired by, resemble XRA enough to call it derivative. I'm sorry but this is a classic Boss Baby case.
>>25351978Oh so you're admitting you were checking me out, and now you want to mate
>>25352436Lish? Sorry I'm not super plugged in
What could possibly distract people who love sports?
Name ONE book in existence similar to Xavier Renegade Angel. You literally fucking cannot.
>>25352021STALKER and Metro fans are subhuman slavic asiatic mongoloids who love liquid shit in digital form. I wouldn't worry about them. Anyone who thinks STALKER is a legitimately good game is essentially insane.
Now the chaser has become the chosteThe sufferer becomes the suffixed
>Not available for purchase on ANY streaming serviceI am the most oppressed individual in existence in actuality.
>>25353309The Soft Machine
>>25353434Burroughs schizo... pls.
>Almost 20 years have passed since the wacky and wild summer nights of 2007We have regressed in just about every aspect of art and culture since then.
>>25353482what was so wacky and wild about it?
>>25353483If you have to ask, you'll never understand.
>>25351978How is Xavier Renegade Angel related to Burroughs' work?
>>25353550Ayahuasca surrealism and destructive lying/delusional narrators. Impossible and absurd magic rituals causing time travel/going into south american codices/turning a person into a sandwich with feminism
>>25353483knowing that 9/11 was an inside job. knowing that the iraq war was planned in advance and saddam had assumed americans knew he was preventing iran from controlling iraq. seeing the banks crash. watching obama claim to want to change the banks and mccain claim not not want to. seeing the future when money is worthless even if you can somehow get a job. but theres still mostly a coherent nation. so its wacky and wild partying
>>25353913>turning a person into a sandwich with feminismthe feminist doesnt make a sandwich, the feminist is a sandwich. 500$ for a bite and its consumed in a decade
>>25351978This is why Warhammer lore explained novels are so popular on youtube
>>25353347It's available on my ps2 if you put in the DVD, btw the discs look like his eyes
>>25353950Xavier uses feminism to turn her into a sandwich, pay attention
>>25353988This shit bugs me because there is nothing to explain. Warhammer is just pulp, there’s nothing to know
>>25354069Some of the references are pretty obscure if you aren't plugged into science fiction. Like the planet the Horus Hersey started on is called Istvaan after the myth adventures character. Figuring out what the setting did and didn't rip off is honestly more interesting than the setting itself which is pretty dumbed down compared to what came before it.
