>French>English>Latin>GermanIf you don't know AT LEAST these 4 languages you shouldn't even be posting on /lit/. For real, 90% of all worthwhile literature is written in those 4 languages, if you read translations instead of reading those works in their original languages you're a pseudo-reader, a worm, a nonentity.
>>25356318my English is at C1 right now, I'm learning Latin at the moment and I plan to learn French and German in the future also to C1
>>25356328I see you're a man of culture as well.
>>25356328>my English is at C1 right now,>,
>>25356318>Waah waah I'm learning languages and you're not, stop posting!!!!And what, exactly, are you gonna do about it, тyпoй пидopac?
>>25356318I read everything in french, the only true language of literature. You are gay.
>>25356404Uhh but you just read OP's post in English?
>>25356422Shitpost is not literature. Anyway a third of english words are derived from french, really makes you think.
>>25356505>I read everything in french
>>25356318I know English, Spanish and French (though the latter is rusty since I don't often get to practice).I've been meaning to learn a language bur can't decide if I should learn Latin, German, Japanese, Mandarin, Russian, Italian or Greek first.Any suggestions?
>>25356698Mandarin, of course. The most engaging language to learn.
>>25356318Lmao, he reads only WLS (World language slop). Enjoy your ”classics” and ”masterpieces” determined and chosen by plebeian masses. I mean I guess ”accessability” is one criteria for deciding if literature is decent or not, but putting it on a pedestal like that.. big yikes! Now excuse me you common language commoner, but I’ve got some Estonian gems to read through tonight. Not much point discussing them with you, since they’re so rare you’ve never even heard of any of them. But I mean we all have our own tastes I suppose. It is okay to enjoy mass market language slop if that is your thing.
>>25356318That is an ok start for a year 6 student. But if you are voting age and don't know English, Latin, Greek, French, German, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, and one eastern language you are not a serious intellect.
>>25356318Only 4? huh i guess your almost a real reader, about halfway there
>>25356899It is realistically impossible to maintain more than 4 languages throughout life, unless your entire free time is dedicated to it. Anyone who thinks otherwise has a shallow understanding of language learning.
>>25356722this, literally this.
>anime OP image
>>25356318The best literature can only be appreciated by native speakers of the language.This is what multi-lingual faggots don't get. They can only ever be dabblers in foreign literature.
>>25356720brother may I hear any names of those gems? Your fellow Soomepoeg wants to know 'em
>>25356913You realize that's a manga, not an anime, right? Not only that but it's one of the deepest manga ever written, you fucking imbecile.
>>25356922Not true for English though
>>25356334His English is at C1 level, not his grammar. pls understand
>>253569333/10 bait
>>25356922Trvke. Even a person who is entirely fluent in reading and speaking a language and has immersed themselves in a country that speaks it for 10 years is still going to understand only a very small fraction of the contemporary dialect, let alone things written centuries ago in that language. But auto-didact retards on /lit/ think that spending a few years learning a language online makes them better than people who read translations. It's comical that this delusion is still so prevalent.
>>25356946Ever asked for an ESL's views on Chaucer?
>>25357015native englsh speakers can't even read chaucer, shut up
I know French As someone primarily interested in literature German doesn't seem to offer enough to make it worth learningSometimes I think about learning Latin but I don't think it'd be worth learning either
>>25357051The only languages actually worth learning for literature are French, English, Chinese, and Greek.
>>25356909Reading? No. Full fluency ok. But we're talking about reading
>>25356922>>25356982>Even a person who is entirely fluent in reading and speaking a language and has immersed themselves in a country that speaks it for 10 years is still going to understand only a very small fraction of the contemporary dialectRetarded monolingual opinions. You can read "contemporary dialects" on social media. It is nothing difficult. If you know academic French it would take you an hour to understand how Parisian street urchins talk.
>>25357084Cope and seethe
>>25357054I'm studying Chinese right now and Ancient Greek has always been at the back of my mind but I'm not sure it'd be worth itI'd like to learn kobun eventually
>>25357051Yeah, Goethe, Musil, Mann, Kafka, Remarque, Rilke, Wagner, Hesse, Hegel, Kant, Nietzsche, Wittgenstein are all worthless, am I right?
>>25357054>>25357111Those Asian languages are definitely not worth learning for a western scholar. You'll spend at least 5 years studying Japanese or Chinese and you'll only be able to read modern books, if you wanna read Mishima, Murasaki Shikibu, Cao Xueqin, etc you'll have to spend another 5 years just learning more ideograms and grammar rules. It's a huge amount of effort for a very small pay off.
>>25357125honestly? Yes.
>>25357137Hahaha, yes, you're definitely more intelligent than Goethe, that's why you post on 4chan.
>>25356318I feel like my english level has plateaued, i don't know if it's because talking with fellow ESL ( And EFL retards ) is my main exposure to the language or because i reached a level where i can basically understand anything adequately to the point i no longer feel compelled to put in any effort expanding my vocabulary or correcting my grammar.Shit, i sometimes feels like my french degraded from reading too little too, maybe also due to the constant exposure to the engrish language.As for my german i'm working on it little by little, but i don't think i'll be able to read or enjoy any work of literature anytime soon, i do hope i'll be good enough to watch youtube vids in a few months, which might let me reach escape velocity for fluency.
>>25357103Cope and seethe over being too retarded to learn another language
>>25357151did I ever say I'm smarter than Goethe?
>>25357168N-no, you didn't. I apologize, anon-kun. Allow me to wash my neck... orz
>>25356318I speak two of these and unless you're really interested in reading something poetic it's a waste of time to learn anything past English and some Greek and Latin. It's fun but it doesn't matter. Bilingweenies are insecure mutts (like myself) who use one of the few positives of their unfortunate heritage as a replacement penis. It genuinely does not matter unless you have a particular use for it.
>>25357167I know 3 languages retard
>>25357230I do want to learn more German for Goethe and maybe Heidegger THOUGHEVER. I just barely understand Erlkönig and the translations I've seen do not at all do it justice.
>>25357019Most ESL comment ever.
>>25357234that picture is a good representation of you, yes?
I don't see a point in learning the language of a country who widely speaks English. Translation is effective.
>>25357136I'm not a scholar, I just like reading literature and learning langauges Also I study classical chinese not modern chineseModern Japanese literature will probably be a nightmare, after I learn classical chinese I might try to approach it again
>>25357232>3For your sake I hope you're in middle school or a plumber
>>25356318You can't tell me where I can and cannot post. What are you, 19 at most? You're a fucking infant. Ill punt you into a busy intersection.
>>25357397Extremely homoerotic post.>I'll punt your little bussy into a busy intersection, boy!wtf man
Bullcrap. I know three of these well enough to acknowledge how good we have it with modern-day translations. Polylinguism is a contingency and a pseud cope, just like it always was. In my experience not worth the trouble.
>>25357445I think it's still necessary to get much out of poetry. Otherwise I agree.
>>25357444Suck your father's cock
Insane amount of cope in this thread, you disappoint me /lit/.If you're passionate about literature then you MUST learn other languages to a classical level, whether it is greek and latin (which are mandatory for Westerners) or even eastern languages, Download Anki and start doing your reps NOW.
>>25356318>little chinese girl cartoon OP pic
>>25357724No, you really don't, unless you need to read ancient peasant farming documents.
>>25356318since 7th grade ive studied up on russian, spanish, and hebrewi tried picking up farsi for my 8th grade english teacher (fuck she was hot) but i couldnt stand it.spanish im mostly fluent in, use it almost daily, russian i use occasionally when necessary (half my coworkers are russian/uzbek) and i studied some hebrew because keep your friends close and enemies closer
>>25357724Preserving dead languages is important for archival and historical purposes, but it does nothing to enhance one's appreciation of the classics as art. Most people who "study" these dead languages don't actually speak them, they only know enough cobbled together grammar to struggle through old texts which are the only remnant of the language anyway, so they have nothing else to compare it to. It's a worthless exercise for people with too much time on their hands.
>>25356318How should one go about learning these languages?
>>25356318Hindi is goated, though india is a toilet and indians should not be allowed beyond its walls
>>25358070>Hindi is goated>Hindi>goatedIt's a disgusting language. You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>25356318French is a waste of time. Worthless. I'm doing my best to forget it and have considered giving myself brain damage to accelerate the process. Latin and Greek are only slightly better. I can't imagine German is any good. Stay away from the language learning trap.>All of the bibliophile’s fondest hopes are concentrated on projecting an image of genius infused with culture. He never stops to think that only the most inspired effort can liberate the scholar from oblivion and injustice.
>>25357240Oh noes, I've been cyberbullied!
>>25358127French is the most beautiful language. It's also the language of Proust, Flaubert, Balzac, Pascal, Grothendieck, Chateaubriand. It's almost on par with German in terms of literary importance, and definitely far above in terms of aesthetics.
>>25357855good practical picks
Post the durant and Rousseau quotes
>>25356318>skips RussianI can't take this thread seriously
>>25358888>better aesthetics than Orc-speakWell whoopee do.
>>25356318>Learn 3 different languages that hate you for being straight, white, and male>Oh and that one weird language where everything was normal and now doesn't exist anymore...KEK
>>25358888German sounds like its literally from Hell and French sounds like they are trying to talk while sucking dick, which coincidentally, are also sounds that come from hell.
>>25356318>They are all languages that share and relate to each other/int/ would have a field day with you, and not in the good way. To them you only know 1 language because of all the lingual cross-pollination.
>>25359241What are the best sounding languages?
>>25359262Sign Language because I don't have to hear it :^)
>>25359250I'm not sure what you think /int/ is. It's just a board for people to shitpost in their native language.
>>25359274You obviously haven't been there if you think that's all it is.
>>25357774Bodied that freak
>>25357774Anon if you think that's a little girl not only are you gay, but you aren't a pedophile either.I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
>>25359467This is how OP finds out he isn't a pedophile. Must be strange for him.
>>25356318Bitch I don’t even read I just like trolling nerds.
>>25359488Yeah but being here and not reading means you're worse than a nerd, you're like... A misfit... A loser... One of those people that no one likes because you aren't actually valuable in any other way other than making fun of us because we are actually useful.
>>25359241>French sounds like they are trying to talk while sucking dickyou sound like you have a lot of practice with French
>>25359498Thanks, I practiced a lot on your Fath... Uh 2nd Mother!
>>25359326I have been to /int/ plenty. Besides one language learning general, the catalog right now is just low iq bait and banter. It's not some pretentious polyglot community.
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>>25356318I don't know, I don't care and it doesn't matter anyway
>>25359511I mean I wasn't going to call you an American lol
>>25359267>:^)
>>25359561>>:^D
>>25356318>Latin>Sanskrit>Mandarin>ArabicFTFY. These are the four most important languages that defined Old World Civilizations.
>>25356318el Quijote lo tienes que leer en castellano, pedazo de marica, una de las obras más importantes de la literatura universal, si no sabes español puedes irte a la puta mierda.
>>25356318Russian is more important than German
>>25356318>if you read translations instead of reading those works in their original languages you're a pseudo-reader, a worm, a nonentity.This excludes works more important than you know.
>>25356404try to read El Quijote in your faggot "language" mr faggoteaux
>>25359641>>Sanskritpali
>>25359641And 3 of them can be safely ignored
>>25359647Educated people generally don't know Spanish and the moment they learn it they are generally no longer considered educated.
>>25356318>Si tu ne sais pas>If you don't know>dead>angela merkel
>>25359511
>>25359522
>>25359641Lmfao are you in highschool
>>25359711Indeed. Arabic stands alone.
>>25359806Stop the thread, I need anons to generate a reason for this picture existing.>It's AI anonNo, I mean an "in-lore" reason for this picture, be creative.
>>25359844It's not AI. It's an old art project.
>>25359855That's not a good "in-lore" reason anon...
I hope you will be pleased there are more pictures in the series.
>>25359859Thanks, I hate it and I'm going to bed.
>>25356318KNOW YOUR HERITAGE LANGUAGES BEFORE YOU TORTURE YOURSELF WITH THE DERIVATIVE LANGUAGES OF THE EMPIREISTSFAMILY TAKES PRIORITY OVER EMPIRE
>>25360076If I were Scottish I would learn Gaelic. If I were French, then Occitan, and so on. But I'm American and all our heritage languages have no literature.
>>25360094Of course the Americas have literature. For a long time they've had literature. There were people who were there before you, look thóse people up, and if you're one of those who think America started with the Declaration of Independence, start there. Either way, you have a lot to catch up on, which shows from how you tap.
>>25359859Man I haven't seen this for a while
>>25360094You can't study Native American languages as a native American? That's wild. I larp as europoor and even I have read book by a Navajo author/-thress.The languages must be in the land, then! Dig! Dig!
>>25360112I haven't heard of any good books written in Native American languages.
Only Spanish literature is worth reading and English knowing because it's lingua franca after that the rest of the languages who cares retarded languages for chuds and ignorant pseuds
If you want 98% of the great works and the western canon:>Ancient Greek>Latin>Italian & Spanish>French, German, & English Scandinavia has no value... a total waste of space. Dutch is free with German and English. Portuguese is free with Spanish. The rest of the world isn't worth the effort. Their buffet only has scraps to choose from. Arabic? Sanskrit? Ancient or middle Chinese? Don't make me laugh. You can read about a little buddhist humanoid-monkey and I will read dante.
>>25360302>Dutch is free with German and English. Portuguese is free with Spanishretardedly wrong
>>25360302>>Ancient GreekI hate reading "Ancient Greek" because it ignores the fact that there are 7 kinds of Ancient Greek all vastly different enough that even the Ancient Greeks needed to study the different branches of their own language before they could bop around the Medd. Ancient Greek isn't like Latin where it was monolithic enough that as the language changed and evolved most of the meaning stayed the same, Ancient Greek is weird in that a word in Koine doesn't translate 1:1 to Say Doric or Attic, where would carry a different connotation.For example: the word "To bother, to annoy" someone in Doric (What the Spartans spoke) is "To sexually assault, to molest" in Attic, (Which was spoken by the Athenians) which is why when you read accounts written in Attic you get Athenians who always complain the Spartans are too "gruff/to impolite/too harsh/too coarse" because Doric is way more direct compared to Attic.So in Sparta you aren't "annoying me" you are legitimately mentally molesting me and none of them will bat an eye in public if you said that, while in Athens a declaration of someone "mentally molesting you" in public would get reactions we are far more used too of people staring at you bewildered and maybe even a visit from the town watch to try you for publicly indecent speech.
>>25360458Daddy chill
>>25360458There's only Attic and Koine Greek. You learn the former for Plato and Aristotle, and the latter for the Bible. That's it.
>>25356318> no Spanish> or Italian> or RussianThis guy's a fag
>>25356318>FrenchI know how to french kiss!>EnglishGot it.>LatinI know enough words to figure out lots of quotes, that's enough.>GermanThat's the language of satan, no thanks.
>>25360763>There's only Attic and Koine GreekThere's 7 types of Greek with only 3 being important Attic, Doric, and Koine.
>>25359715I don't know how it happens in other countries but here this is for better or worse the case. Picking or not Spanish as your second language in school (besides English) is how classes of different levels are made, as a way of circumventing the official democratic dogma of not makign separate classes by ability within a given school. The idea is that Spanish is easier to pass basic teenage test for, so the lazy or deficient pupils pick it. Other languages are how classes of higher level are made, since the classes are organised by options taken. Students pick them even when they don't like those languages or suck at languages in general, because that's how you get the better teachers in maths and have groups of 40 pupils without any juvenile delinquent. Now some schools have an Arabic option so they can segregate the worst of the diversity while technically avoiding raycisssm. I assume a similar phenomenon happens in the US for obvious reasons. The unfortunate result is that few literate people have bothered with Spanish in the last half century. >>25360458When any foreigner from the 2nd century BC onwards talked about learning (ancient) Greek it means Attic-Koine. Everything of relevance except perhaps Homer is readable if you mastrr Attic. The rare texts not in those such as Archimedes are still fine. Koine is based on and the direct descendant of Attic and it's a non issue to get to it afterwards. No one cares about the special snowflake Cypriot dialect. "Pure" Doric is also useless. There are a few dozen specialists of inscirptions in the world that are fluent in the dialectal differences. Ancient Greeks themselves stopped caring and adopted the Attic-based Koine.
>>25360458This kind of shit is why people should learn living languages before dead ones.
>>25361416>The unfortunate result is that few literate people have bothered with Spanish in the last half century.I think you're just stupid and in a bubble of stupid people.
>>25361437Flawless comprehension. Perfect rebuttal. Too much facts and logic, I kneel.
