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Good historical fiction that is alt history without being ridiculous (i.e., flying cars, machine guns in Rome) particularly looking for 16-17th century stuff.
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>>25360348
I doubt such a thing even exists but The Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson technically has some althist elements
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>>25360348
Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader
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The Terror
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I have yet to read it but there's the 1632 series by Eric Flint.
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>>25360399
I dnf'd Hyperion, is it any better?
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>>25360403
Thats not what I'm asking for. The premise is ridiculous
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>>25360405
i dropped hyperion halfway through after only liking the first story and i thought that the terror tv show was great
haven't read the book tough
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>>25360348
Just read stuff on the alternate history forum. I haven't been there for years, but some threads there are literal novels about different possible timelines.
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>>25360403
1632 (and ring of fire series) does not fit the description that he's looking for.
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>>25360537
I liked the Priest's story too but lost interest pretty quickly after that.
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>>25361425
I found a couple using gemini considering nobody has mentioned these:


>The Years Of Rice And Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson
>The Alteration by Kingsley Amis
>Pavane by Keith Roberts

weird all their names start with the letter K.
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>>25360348
>Good historical fiction
You're asking for a lot here pal.
>that is alt history
Give up.
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>>25360348
I, Claudius
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>>25360348
The Accursed Kings series
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>>25363122
>>25363117
that's what really happened in reality thoughever
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>>25363418
Maybe but doubtful. Some of it is the same. Some of it is speculative.
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>>25360348
name of the rose.
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>>25363491
already read it, didn't much like it
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>>25360348
Fatherland is pretty good. Wot if the Nazis won WWII?
Similarly The Plot Against America, wot if Lindbergh won in 1940 and the US became nazi sympathetic?
The Difference Engine is also good. Wot if Victorian England had been the real dawn of the computer when it was Babbage's mechanical computers?
>>25363095
>The Years of Rice and Salt
Read that one, the problem is he's trying to tell a very long story so he uses the crutch of reincarnation to string the same characters together over time to explore the changes and this kills how interesting the characters can be. It's also an alt history that tends to repeat actual history's patterns. So it's not really showing history changing but putting a different mask on it, if that makes sense.
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>>25363587
thanks, the only poster ITT to get it. I hope you have a very large family someday.
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>>25363095
>The Years Of Rice And Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson
Read that novel about 10 years ago and its less so alternate history and more so our history but no Europeans from the 1400s onwards. The Age of Discovery, Industrialization, World Wars all happen at the same time it occurred IOTL. It's pretty lame and destroys the whole point of this alt history scenario. No idea what the other two novels are, but from the summaries it seems like typical Anglo-written Black Legend nonsense.
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>>25360348
Most of Shakespeare, the Henry plays particularly, though even his comedies are set in historical events.
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>>25363955
I dunno I thought the plots were compelling



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