>Lolita is the finest work of 20th century prose, you say?
That would by Ulysses. Nabokov said his prose couldn't hold a candle to Ulysses
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I just bought a used copy of this book as my next read.Hope is not "ToT" bullshit...
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>>25360930There's not a single described sexual act between Humbert and Lo in the entire story. But Humbert DOES spout a bunch of ToT bullshit.
>>25360930>Hope is not "ToT" bullshit...It's exactly what you're thinking in elaborately detailed prose
>>25360996I don't think you can appreciate how good this is if you haven't spent time in East Tennessee and the South in general, especially before the Internet erased so much of our dialect and culture, and have a background in the ideas corncob is referencing. I suspect blood meridian will age very poorly as the thirdie esl retards who inherit western institutions get completely filtered by it. But yes it's the "best" thing I've ever read, even with the libtardisms. I'm not going to read the pedonigger book but it seems to be an exercise in aesthetics first and foremost.
>>25360551I haven't read even 1% of every book published in the 20th century so how can confirm or deny that statement
>>25361030There a definitely a few moments that unconsensually <redacted>
>>25361143Probably similarly true for ‘lita. It’s a classic American road trip for upper class New England wasps but no one stays in motels anymore
>>25361143What did Southerners think about Corncob? Is he regarded as a Southern-larper Yankee?
>>25361457That's my point, it's at most, merely, vaguely implied.
>>25360554incorrect, although he obviously praised it as much as anyone else. he later criticized finnegan's wake as a failure
>>25361551Finnegans Wake is a totally different book
>>25361558nonetheless, still a failure. nabokov judged on a book-by-book basis. he consistently speaks more glowingly of dickens than joyce
>>25361143*After >>25361458I thought it was written in Russian? He set it in the northeastern US? Or is this an Epstein joke lmao.>>25361461Honestly it doesn't really fit into any part of post bellum southern life. Like I can't imagine any of my older relatives ever reading it and none of the younger ones read litfic at all. I guess one of the antebellum cotton aristocracy, whom I larp as in my innermost heart, would have liked it but my Appalachian grandma would have just said something like "I just don't understand why anyone would write *that* kind of book" and dismissing the cultural details as "obvious". They didn't need novels about their own lives—who does? Violence and death were still prominent back then. Blood Meridian is great but it is clearly a modern book written by a northern Ellis Islander, albeit one who understands our culture(s) in great detail. More directly: I've only ever met one other southern person irl who read it and all he said was "it's pretty good".
>>25361652I take it back, I'm sure right wing neopagan teenagers read it. But I doubt they get most of it. They're also more a part of online chud culture than of southern culture.
>>25361652Nabakov is a Russian expat who wrote most of his famous novels in English. Regardless, the specific world/culture of Lolita doesn’t really exist anymore.
>>25360930There are no actual "ToT" books, they would never get published. Lolita is only tangentially about that
>>25360551I certainly never said that. If you asked me I’d say Swanns way or Melancholy of resistance.
>>25361729what does "ToT" stand for?
>>25361564>nabokov judged on a book-by-book basisYeah that's what I said. And he regarded Ulysses as superior to anything he wrote
>>25361764its imitating the crying emoji which was made infamous by some japanese pedophiles tweet
>>25361652>I thought it was written in Russian?These are your peers on the "literature" board.
>>25361778I've known about that book since I was a teenager and I intentionally avoided learning anything about it because I hate the cryptopedo fags who talk about it. I've almost certainly read than you ever will. There's a whole world of serious writing waiting for you once you get done with novels and Internet tier lists btw.
>>25361829*Read MORE hoisted by my own petard
>>25361829>i havent read nabokov but let me tell you about how to be well-readhilariousi imagine the "serious writing" you allow yourself to read must be rather limited if you're only allowed to read stories in which the protagonist is a good person
>>25361846>must be rather limited if you're only allowed to read stories in which the protagonist is a good personYou are extremely retarded lolAnd currently I am rereading Hamlet
>>25360551Any book where the author describes his younger self as a >faunletis disbarred from being considered for finest 20th century prose
>>25361848lmaooooo oh ok sorry i didn't realize i was talking to a high schoolergj bro we're very impressed that you're reading shakespeare your teachers are probably very proud
>>25361829There are people who identify with Patrick Bateman, doesn't really impact the story
>>25361868African?>>25361871I have avoided that for the same reason. I'm not interested in contributing to the malignant faggot subcultures that surround either of those books, even if just reading it myself does basically nothing. I'm sure they're written well, and probably even have some Good ideas, that's not the point.
>>25361893I do plan on reading Pale Fire btw
>>25361893>African?oh sorry i didnt realize you were african, i didnt mean to be racistthose of us living in first world nations tend to read stuff like shakespeare early in our educationanyone over the age of 16 has likely read most of his works multiple times so that's why i assumed you were a kid trying to flex my namedropping something as entry level as hamletbut i guess the educational system is different in africa, my badcompared to the other nigerians i'm sure you're way ahead
>>25361893You are unironically perpetuating whatever subculture you imagine exists around Lolita by treating it like some sort of taboo pedophile handbook that you don't dare read.
>>25361913The most newfag response ever
>>25361918This is /lit/, and the first time I've even talked about the book at all in like a decade. Mostly I ignore it and will do so again here on out.>>25361913I really enjoy the ratio of words you wrote compared to the word (singular) I did.
>>25361922but trying to flex by telling everyone that you're reading hamlet isn't?come on brothat's like coming into a discussion of classical music and bragging about how you've been listening to beethovenliterally every properly educated white male read hamlet when he was in grade school
>>25361925>Mostly I ignore it and will do so again here on out.You have been unironically camping out in this thread for like 5 hours straight which is a very strange level of obsession for a book you claim to have no interest in reading.
>>25360930its literally an anti-"ToT" novel.
>>25361143any opinions on Breece D'J Pancake? Would I grasp and enjoy his short stories as a norwegian ESL?
>>25360551>Anonymous 06/23/26(Tue)15:35:38No.25360551▶>>25360996 >>25361452 >>25361758 >>25361865>>Lolita is the finest work of 20th century prose, you say?>>>> Anonymous 06/23/26(Tue)15:36:37No.25360554▶>>25361551>That would by Ulysses. Nabokov said his prose couldn't hold a candle to UlyssesAs mentioned above, Ulysses is better, but when it comes to Nabokov's works, Pale Fire is better than Lolita even in this area.
>>25361729It basically means uoooooohhhhh cunnyyy this fucking brat needs correction!!!
>>25361937I check /lit/ multiple times a day when I have it on my mind, and usually monitor threads I've posted in. I'm not sure what the issue is mr. Janny
>>25361766proofs?
>>25360996>>25361143good way to bait the schizo kek, im gonna try that next time
it's certainly funny i'll grant you that
>>25362190Retard
>>25361778Really bleak state of affairs. Really hard to understate how much better this place was 10-15 years ago when the archetypal poster was a guy pretending to be in an MFA program and trying to "one-up" the other posters. What we're left with now is just grim and the worst of both worlds. Feigning some sort of cachet by bragging about how much he has read while simultaneously bragging about parochial moralfag concerns and egregious demonstrations of ignorance. Really no idea how someone who claims to know a lot about English language literature could be under the impression Nabokov wrote in Russian before translating into English.
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>>25362871What is this supposed to show? No one is interested in your ironic retardation or in the mexican manchild who fanboys for faulkner on the board.
