Poltards here believe that this guy was not gay btw. Meanwhile this book is about as straight as Portrait of Dorian Gray
>>25361046Portrait of Dorian gray was straight.Ur just a fag so you think other people are too
>>25361046Japanese biographer wrote that it was fashionable in the Japan of that time for writers to display sexual deviance and parade perversion.
>>25361050yeah bro the book used as evidence of the author's gayness during the litigation that resulted with the author sentenced to prison for being gay was straight af.
>>25361067They were biased and would've put him away for any book.Ur gay, the book is straight
>>25361046What's going on in this cover?
>>25361059The book isn't gay becouse of it's subject matter, but becouse of the way how it's written. You'd know what I am talking about if you actually read the book. The descriptions of men are the gayest shit ever, no straight man would write them.
>>25361079Yeah, I haven't read this book, but it's probably the same psychological immersion he was doing when writing from a woman's perspective. He did that really well in After the Banquet. Does that make him a woman? Maybe he just had great psychological insight, whether into women or homos.
>>25361079I don't read books. Look at all the fags posting on here, you think i want to become like them?
>>25361108>Yeah, I haven't read this book>>25361109>I don't read booksWhy are you posting in this thread then?
>>25361113Not the same guy you retard
I like to say, books are like plastic. There not gay, but they make u gay
>>25361046Mishima seemed like the daddy issues kind of faggot to me rather than a pederast like Mann or Ginsberg.
>>25361046I swear, the only people who talk about this guy on here are /pol/-obsessed losers who yearn for a good strong homofascist to rape them to sleep.
>>25361046>>25361050>>25361067Can you cite any gay passages in The Portrait of Dorian Gray? Any homosexual kisses or sex? I recall none. In fact, I recall that Dorian Gray was hetersexual and in love with a prostitute turned actress. Basil is never shown to have male partners and is never implied to be gay. So, where's your TEXTUAL evidence?
>>25361149A book being gay is not about the relationships depicted in it but about the subtext and the context. And Wilde was quite the fan of Morocco.
>>25361154No evidence, case closed. Maybe YOU should go suck boydick in Morocco, mister faggot.
>>25361059I asked the machine oracle about this and it agreed:> If the biographer was discussing early-20th-century Japanese literary circles, many writers were indeed fascinated by transgression, confession, and psychological abnormality.> Authors often cultivated public personas that emphasized eccentricity, decadence, addiction, sexual irregularity, or emotional instability. Part of this came from the influence of European fin-de-siècle and modernist literature, where "the artist as outsider" was already a powerful ideal.> In Japan, movements associated with the so-called ero-guro-nansensu ("erotic-grotesque-nonsense") culture of the 1920s and 1930s created an atmosphere in which discussions of unconventional sexuality, obsession, crime, and perversion could carry a certain intellectual glamour. Writers such as Jun'ichirō Tanizaki explored fetishism and masochism in their fiction, while others experimented with autobiographical revelations that shocked conventional society.> Writers often presented themselves as unconventional because it signaled artistic seriousness, modernity, or rebellion against bourgeois norms—not necessarily because they were actually more sexually deviant than the population at large.
>>25361177what is this shit
Fags have a tendency to overly sexualize everything (this is why they need to say the fuck away from kids btw) and this is why they've always been seen as perverts. Mishima didn't do that.
>>25361243>Mishima didn't do that
>>25361243uh huh
>>25361149i dont know what's in it exactly but there's a version called the uncensored picture of dorian grey that has supposedly homoerotic content that the editor took out for the original publication
>>25361149Straight men generally don't go around talking about how beautiful other men are
>>25361115'you' can be plural, retarded esl nigger
>>25361046The book certainly involves a lot of gays, but your argument rests on the idea that you can't write about gays without being gay. Furthermore, how would you square that with his many books that involve straight sexuality?
>>25361046if you want to understand Mishima's sexuality, forget Mask and Colours. His books most starkly about sexuality were Temple of the Golden Pavilion and Runaway Horses.
>>25361108>I haven't read this bookYou should, it is very good and it is the one where his aesthetic philosophy is more lucidly and coherently outlined>the same psychological immersion he was doing when writing from a woman's perspectiveI think that is actually an overlooked aspect of his writing. One could probably churn out a great essay about the mishima woman if the people who would most likely interested in that weren't so keen on dismissing him as a chud
>>25361136Can you have daddy issues if you are raised by women?
>>25362175Stop coping, throughout the book even the chapters from Shunsuke's POV (who is supposed to be heterosexual) contain extremely gay descriptions of beautiful men, where it's very obvious the author is jerking off.Why do you think Mishima's wife forbid Schrader to have scenes from this specific book in his biopic but did not have such requirement for any other?This book focuses on very different aspects of his personal philosophy, it is basically his manifesto on sexuality, relationships, marriage, love etc. This book dispells even the usual poltard cope of 'he cannot be gay, he had wife and children"
>>25362195>Stop copingAbout what? I agree he was a fag. And his novels are amazing, perhaps as a consequence of it
>>25362175>One could probably churn out a great essay about the mishima womanThis feels like something that already exists. I can't be fucked to go digging for it right now, but I'd be shocked if someone hasn't already written an essay or several on Mishima's relationship to the feminine perspective/gaze/POV in his novels>if the people who would most likely interested in that weren't so keen on dismissing him as a chudTee bee hatch, every Mishima fan I know likes him in spite of his chuddery. The wokiest woke I knew in college loved his work. The online right has this weird idea that wokes think Mishima is "too problematic to read" or "too dangerous" or some equally retarded bullshit (not saying this is you, just making an observation), but in my experience this is the exact opposite of the truth -- wokes love reading Mishima because he's a safe, exotic, good fascist writer. Gives them a little frisson
>>25362410Well my female friend who fell for every single feminist narrative ever since enrolling college saw me reading mishima and went>ugh! You are reading the fascist?!So to each their own
