I'm going to (re)read the following in the days remaining before the fourth:Cicero's Treatise On The Commonwealth The Magna Carta and English Bill Of RightsCato's Letters The Two Treatises Of GovernmentThe Spirit of the Laws Common Sense and Rights Of ManDiscourses Concerning GovernmentDeclaration of Independence The Federalist Papers The Anti-Federalist PapersThe Constitution Poor Richards AlmanacThe Autobiography Of Benjamin Franklin Notes On The State Of Virginia And finally and optionally: Democracy in AmericaWhat am I missing? And what's a good book on George Washington? I've added up the page counts and I should be able to do it, except for possibly DiA.
>>25362071I’m planning to read The Impending Crisis and Under Other Suns
>>25362074*The Warmth of Other Suns, sorry
I would rather swallow a firework than read this bullshit. Jesus. God help us. Bring me my King James Bible.
>>25362074>>25362078Seems more related to the civil war than the founding >>25362080I should probably read some of that as well, I've mostly read Catholic translations
>>25362085Mate the problem with your list is that political philosophy did not exist in a friggn vacuum sealed-chamber of dialectic. The thread you are tracing from Cicero to the Magna Carta to the Declaration of Independence is completely fictional. It's all in your head.
>>25362088tell that to the guy who thinks Kant is Greek invention
>>25362088No shit, who said it isn't? It's a collection of things that contributed directly and indirectly (Cicero's Commonwealth wasn't even available to the founders) to the spirit and laws of 1776 and 1788, that's all. You have schizophrenia.
>>25362095*1789
>>25362071Art of the Deal
>>25362095Reading this list is as pointless as reading a list of literary works whose titles begin with the letter K and you know it.
>>25362103What's wrong with the letter K? Holy schizo melty
>>25362103WTF are you talking about?
>>25362071>And what's a good book on George Washington?Douglas Southall Freeman's Washington books (7 volumes!) are quite definitive as biographies go, but that's a titanic undertaking
>>25362119I've always wanted to read those. Unfortunately I'll probably never have the time.
>>25362095>(Cicero's Commonwealth wasn't even available to the founders)while certainly true through the founding and for decades after, our boy Thomas Jefferson did receive a copy in 1823:https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-20-02-0224
>>25362150I keep forgetting how young they all were. It feels like they wrote the constitution when they were in their 50s.
>>25362156*Declaration not constitution
>>25362156I wish I were not so tired, because that exceedingly-common notion (and the way in which it is consistently reinforced by depictions in media) is an interesting oneanyway, rather than drown you in a list of books, I'd recommend going down rabbit holes in the correspondence of the FoundersI always found this letter by Benjamin Franklin quite interestinghttps://founders.archives.gov/documents/Franklin/01-43-02-0335in which you can find Montesquieu and Sallust among its other contents
>>25362088> The thread you are tracing from Cicero to the Magna Carta to the Declaration of Independence is completely fictional.Not really? The founding is steeped in a context of ancient Greece and Rome to try and build (or resurrect depending on the speaker) a new type of government. Not in some vague indirect way but with direct reference and appeal to the period and what sources were available in the enlightenment. Their ideas about what democracy and republic meant are still influencing the whole discussion of what the soul of America is (with what are honestly some bizarre misunderstandings of what “democracy” means in a modern context, since this debate in the US wants to anchor it in ancient terms, eg mob rule, when most “democracies” today have variants of electoral systems that amerifats proclaim the defender of the republic).
>>25362071Post books that attacked America's founding principles
>>25362071>ThucydidesHistory of the Peloponnesian War>AristotlePolitics, Nicomachean Ethics>SallustThe Conspiracy of Catiline, The Jugurthine War>LivyHistory of Rome>TacitusAnnals, Histories>PlutarchLives>BaconEssays, Advancement of Learning, Novum Organum>MiltonAreopagitica>HobbesLeviathan>HarringtonThe Commonwealth of Oceana>MachiavelliDiscourses on Livy, The Prince>VoltaireCandide, Letters on England, Treatise on Tolerance>MatherMagnalia Christi Americana>DefoeRobinson Crusoe>RousseauThe Social Contract, Discourse on Inequality, and Creed of a Savoyard Priest>OtisThe Rights of the British Colonies Asserted and Proved>John AdamsA Dissertation on Canon and Feudal Law, Thoughts on Government, A Defence of the Constitutions of the United States of America, Discourses on Davila>SmithThe Theory of Moral Sentiments, The Wealth of Nations
>>25362844Ah fuck how did I forget Wealth of Nations, I've been meaning to read that for years. Thanks anon.
>>25362108>>25362106Some guy is in a tizzy that some other guy likes his country
>>25362844Why are candide and Robinson Crusoe on a politics list?
>>25363928Who said it was a politics list?
>>25363928both were well-known to the Founders, who were in general frighteningly well-readhttps://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-07-02-0008
>>25362103>a list of literary works whose titles begin with the letter KSounds kino. Let's make a megalist consisting of 26 different lists, with each list being made up of the top 20 or so works that begin with that list's respective letter.
>>25362088You need to read Quentin Skinner, bro