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I recently saw a moron on this board suggest that Iran is "not the enemy" of Americans and this shows how deep ignorance has gotten


The book The Concept of the Political is vital today. Explains the friend-enemy distinction is determined by the sovereign's designation. If the sovereign, the state, designates a group or individual as the enemy, that is the enemy by DEFINITION. Schmitt makes it clear there is no argument here. That is what the friend-enemy distinction is all about. Even the Bush administration cited Schmitt on this crucial point. Even BAP says you MUST read Schmitt
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>>25362957
Iran isn't an existential threat to America; ZOG and Israel is. Schmitt was an antisemite btw.
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>>25362957
No Iranian ever called me an incel.
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>>25362957
>Explains the friend-enemy distinction is determined by the sovereign's designation. If the sovereign, the state, designates a group or individual as the enemy, that is the enemy by DEFINITION
Trust the plan, zogbot. The president's jew friends gladhanded him so now you should pay billions for a war you have no benefit from, if not die directly for Israel. This is "right wing" btw. :^)
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>>25362999
Existential threat is not part of the defintion of enemy here
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>>25362999
Do you even Strauss bro?
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>>25362957
>Humans randomly dividing themselves into groups and then fighting each other arbitrarily is GOOD actually
Genius.
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>>25363064
>randomly
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>>25362957
He is talking about Sovereignty as in independent self-rule. Not Sovereign as in ruler/overlord
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>>25363066
it is pretty random that you happened to live on the other side of the river and that you use a different word for "God".
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>>25363068
He is talking about sovereign as in the person or body of the state
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>>25363071
It‘s not particularly random that I live on the other side of an ocean and a half and have an issue of rooting out all abrahamism to attend to.
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>>25363068
The sovereign in Schmitt's work is explicitly decides the "state of exception", that is, when laws can be ignored as a state of emergency or suspending due process and that sort of thing, license to kill. This was a significant question in the Bush administration during the war on terror
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>>25363089
If you think bombing random middle eastern people is doing literally ANYTHING to curb Islam you are retarded. If anything these middle eastern wars have made Islam more prevalent by causing refugees to migrate to western countries and spread their religion. The only effective way to destroy a religion is to raise the standard of living and education of its believers.
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>>25363093
Normalizing antisemitism is help drive Islam. Israel at least represents a secular democracy with human rights. This is a no-brainer
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>>25362957
Very good. Now think a little further and realize this: when the sovereign's designation of the enemy comes to be so disconnected with the lived reality and consciousness of the popular base which every political authority ultimately derives from, the very sovereignty of the sovereign, the authority of the state itself comes to be called into question and starts crumbling immediately. That is how the great transformations of power happen (see e.g.: October Revolution)
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>>25363105
You lost
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>>25363099
oh so youre just completely brain dead. Notice how I didn't even mention Israel or Jews.
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>>25362957
>Explains the friend-enemy distinction is determined by the sovereign's designation. If the sovereign, the state, designates a group or individual as the enemy, that is the enemy by DEFINITION.
arguments "by definition" are powerless to affect material reality. if "enemy" means "anyone whom the ruling class has declared to be an enemy", then i do not care if someone is an "enemy".
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Kill all neocons
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>>25363119
>appeal to bioleninism

Par the course
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>>25363091
That is as I said, tying into the self-rule, also you are overstating it way too hard, because it was not something like "license to kill" as you claim.
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>>25363123
Why should anybody care what the child molesting thieves in government think?
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>>25363099
>Israel
>secural
lol
>democracy
lma... well I guess they are an oligarchic militaristic state so yea they are a democracy in true sense of a word
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>>25363136
Self-rule is anarchy
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>>25363093
Yes but that has nothing to do with whether the division is random
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>>25363147
I wasn't responding to that point in that post. Things like religion, culture, and race are historically contingent so the division into groups is indeed "random" in the sense that none of the characteristics on which those divisions are based are innate or inherent to any of the parties involved. Human beings have been proven to divide themselves into groups on arbitrary lines, literally just roll dice and randomly assign people to stand on one side of the room versus the other and the two sides will automatically develop negative views of the other. Religion, race, and culture are just excuses used to justify the human need to hate someone and their desire to gain wealth by conquering and enslaving them.
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>>25363146
Ok, globalist
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>>25363153
>in the sense that none of the characteristics on which those divisions are based are innate or inherent to any of the parties involved
Wrong and retarded. Stop fucking lying.
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>>25363157
Not an argument.
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>>25363093
>The only effective way to destroy a religion is to raise the standard of living and education of its believers.
"Education" here necessarily means by force, which requires martial supremacy which cannot be established peacefully. God help us if someone as stupid as you are has ever had a job more important than cashier.
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>>25363158
"Yours is unsound" is indeed one, are you too ESL to parse that from my colorful wording?
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>Bro the friend vs enemy distinction is super important
>t. an enemy
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>>25363161
Do you think that any of the wars in the middle east have been with the intention of eventually educating muslims? Israel would literally rather just completely glass the entirety of gaza rather than annex it and re-educate the citizens. I fucking wish that America would just openly control its puppet states in a colonial dictatorship and try to actually improve the countries it exploits, but that doesn't happen now does it?
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>>25362957
Is the American government your friend?
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>>25363154
>Hobbes
>globalist
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>>25363165
Disagreeing with someone isn't an argument. It's back to preschool for you.
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>>25363172
He is literally repurposed by the globalist agenda
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>>25363123
i don't know what that means in this context.
you've defined "enemy" to mean something i don't care about, and are attempting to rely on my pre-existing associations with the word "enemy" to make me start caring about that thing. it is obvious why this doesn't work if you're capable of thinking in something other than sequences of words.
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>>25362957
First of you're obviously esl and given the fact that you're clearly unintelligent, i would exclude you being israeli, either you're a jeet or latrine american. I'm leaning more towards jeet.

>Even BAP says you MUST read Schmitt
Nobody here gives a fuck what that gypsykike thinks. Honestly kill yourself Xittertranny.
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>>25363173
Are you actually retarded or is this a bit
>>25363168
No, none of that has anything to do with what I said. I don't care about Israel or Palestine.
>I fucking wish that America would just openly control its puppet states in a colonial dictatorship and try to actually improve the countries it exploits,
We've done that for decades and nobody gives a shit. Why should, then, we? A country that can't feed its own people deserves neither respect nor sympathy, it is genuinely pathetic in this day and age.
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>>25362957
What's with jeets pushing jew propaganda?
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>>25363057
Yes it is, he explicitly ties it to warfare and the potential of death or destruction of way of life. Only thing OP got right is that its the states decision to decide who the enemy is given these parameters. However, the US regime is a rogue tyranny addicted to war, so its distinctions aren't a good benchmark to respect.
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>>25363284
>However, the US regime is a rogue tyranny addicted to war

Carl Schmitt was a Nazi
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>>25363298
He wrote this years before they came to power, and he joined them shortly after the fact.
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>>25363316
Yes and he idolized the absolute monarchies of the 16th Century which were centralized dictatorships that waged constant wars for pissing contests
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>>25363319
17th century whatever
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>>25363319
Stop trying to warp his thesis to justify the rogue nuclear terrorist state in the middle east.
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>>25363333
>s-stop, Schmitt only strongly supported colonialism and absolute dictatorship because he was liberal
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>>25362957
A factoid I enjoy about him is that in the twilight years of his life he took to contemplating a portrait of Bejamin Disraeli, his self-selected anti-type, which he had hung on his study. According to one of his friends and disciples, he ruminated on disraeli often, and began to believe that he was bested by him.
Very Melancholic.
>>25363298
His relationship with the NSDAP was complicated. Despite being a member and largely on board he was never part of the movement's core, he was more of a conservative holdover. For example he didn't take Barbarossa well, it wasn't what he'd wish.
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>>25363336
>t.
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>>25363339
"His relationship with Jeffery Epstein was complicated."
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>>25362957
>kvetching intensifies
>>25363099
>Israel at least represents a secular democracy with human rights.
ngl Im glad i decided not to kill myself solely to read absurd shit like this every single day
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>>25362957
>I recently saw a moron on this board suggest that Iran is "not the enemy" of Americans
Oy vey!
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>>25363358
Epstein was still kicking around under the Wall Street crackpots when Schmitt died in the mid-80‘s. I don‘t think they had any relationship.
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>>25363278
Outsourced to India because the Jewish Internet Defense Force couldn’t handle the truth about what they are



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