I don't understand why women hate Infinite Jest. It's a compassionate and genuine book with no hate in its pages despite the male focus.
>>25374298>Finnegans Wake
because women hate whiny self-obsessed men and dave was whiny and self-obsessed
I don’t really think about what women think about anything anymore.
>>25374301Finnegans wake is overflowing with soul
>>25374306women are whiny and self-obsessed thoughever
>>25374349stop mistaking the qualities of single, childless women with those of women in general
>>25374298They hate the stereotype of the men who were obsessed with it 20 years ago and that hatred has been passed down by female oral tradition aka vibes and ick ever since.
>women hate Infinite Jestdo they? I wouldn't know, I've never met a woman that has read or even heard of IJ
women love infinite jest why have you chosen to lie?
>>25374349Exactly>>25374298Because the phrase "Infinite Jest" refers to the ultimate joke which is women.
If they hate, must be a good book. That will be my next read
The only woman I've ever met in four years of uni, studying literature, who even heard of DFW only read the story about the boiling water in the diaper, and expressed an interest in seeing the Jason Segel film that came out around this time.
>>25374316The fact that you felt the need to proclaim this tells me that you care bigly.
>>25374349They don’t like competition and attention being off them
>>25374349Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.
>>25374352family women with children are infinitely more whiny and self-obsessed, you guys clearly know nothing about women.
>>25375301>t. racist
>>25374298Why are you pretending the average woman has good enough taste to hate this piece of shit?
>>25375459Exactly.
>>25374316Yes you do, Arnold.
DFW sure does cause an unreasonable amount of seethe from the failed writer contingent of /lit/.
>>25375494I'm a semi-failed writer and I think DFW is really good
>>25374775true
>>25374775>>25374417Infinite jest is very commonly associated with "litbros"
>>25374298because women are under the misconception that they are smart because they read dozens of youngadultfantasyslop or dubconromanceslop books per day but get uppity when they encounter a book they can't consume just as easily
Hearing women hate IJ makes me wanna read it
>>25374298It was written by a man and men like it.>>25374775Every woman who is willing to openly admit they like it has to preface their confession by denouncing "incels" and "dudebros" (men) who like the book.
>>25375494his suicide was heroic, you should follow your hero
A lit bro is an archetype of male reader generally characterized by snobbery, misogyny, pretentiousness, and other pompous qualities. Likewise, bro lit refers to the catalog of books which such readers generally consume. The term has particularly been mentioned in discourse about Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace, a book which some women have reported being recommended by lit bros, allegedly for performative reasonsAbe Beame, reflecting on the thirty-year anniversary in wake of Zauner's observations, stated that "David Foster Wallace's thick-as-a-brick 1996 magnum opus is a lit-bro punchline, an online-dating red flag, and a forbidding 1,000-plus-page endurance test" as well as "an indicator that the guy you’re hooking up with (if he's got the book positioned conspicuously on his shelf) might be a douchebag."
Why are women so scared of books that aren't about a vampire billionaire raping them?
>>25374417I've read it and liked it. I don't like men who read books to impress other men though, which has become the main demographic for IJ.
>>25374298ps2 rock band guitar hero algorithm
>>25374298Every time someone says "x" represent american culture you can safely put "x" in the trash since american means LA or NY memes of the last 2-5 years.
I think I women just hate to see men entertain themselves. They think it’s sinful somehow. Their attitude is, “shouldn’t you stop having fun and work to provide women with resources, attention and validation.” They hate to see us like DFW or Cormac or Pynchon.They are miserable creatures. They are the gender where fun goes to die.
>>25376522FINALLY SOMEONE ASKS THE BIG QUESTION
>>25378639>since american means LA or NY memesLmfao are you one of those people who thinks a run-down diner in Kansas filled with emphysemic boomers is "the real America"
>>25379767Who has ever given you shit for liking DFW, McCarthy, or Pynchon? Be honest.
>>25379767>twitter grifter spacing
>>25379767it's obvious from your victimhood you can't get laid, so no one will ever take you seriously. consider rope.
>>25379887Anybody with taste will give you shit for liking those awful authors.
>>25379925>dodges the question
>>25374349who here hasn't smashed a mirror
>>25379930where are the latinos? I see only one maybe two.
>>25379930You're functionally illiterate.
>>25379925Who are your favorite authors?>>25379777It certainly is, in every sense of the word, more American than the seething cancerous masses of Indians gooning in luxury apartments paid for by SBA loans and big techs, which I suspect is what you think America is.
>which bible quote>any of them
>>25379776The american healthcare system is extreme generous, in Europe they literally cull their elderly by soft-banning AC and their healthcare costs are still fucking enormous and state-crippling. Stop being retarded and focus on real issues like technototalitarianism.
>>25379954>t. masturbates nightly to stock-trading draculas
>>25376848I haven't read it and my favorite book is pride and prejudice may I see your feet now my lady?
>>25379957Not an argument. If you're about to have a manchild temper tantrum because I dared to remind you that you don't automatically deserve to have your corpulent body kept alive against your own revealed preference by the toil of others I suggest logging off of 4chan dot org first.
>all those words>but you're mad, not me
>>25379767this they hate men having fun
>>25379887Just read the forward to the new edition of Infinite Jest.Or any of the “litbro” articles
>>25379973Correct
>>25380306That's someone giving you shit? That sounds like reading distant accounts of someone else being given shit, not even necessarily the person writing it, just general "vibe." Who knows if it actually happened or if it's just a meme.When has someone personally given you shit for reading DFW, anon?
>>25380570Why are you so focused on personal experience? Are you trying to trick us into ignoring something?
it's true, I beat up nerds reading infinite jest in public, what of it? I stuffed them in lockers to the cheers of the masses
>>25380576So you've never been given shit for reading DFW and you're getting mad because Zadie Smith says some people do. Ok. Got it. Get some real problems.
>>25380585I'm not that anon you histrionic Indian retard
>>25374298What other books women usually hate? I wanna read them out of spite
>>25379965>harder Alucard, harder
>>25376848>which has become the main demographic for IJ.based on what?
>>25380856Different anon, but are you suggesting people are picking up Infinite Jest organically? They're hearing about a 1000 page tome about tennis and drugs and thinking "that'll hit the spot"? Come on. People read canon books to have read canon books more often than not. It's not a bad motivation exactly, but there's a reason every 4channers shelf looks the same.
>>25379909A lot of ‘people’ would have us believe that women are the sole source of happiness in men’s lives.I believe the reality is quite the opposite.I think Pol Pot said it best. You are much happier once you remove all the negative people in your life.
>>25380884Yeah, you seem happy
>>25379767>Their attitude is, “shouldn’t you stop having fun and work to provide women with resources, attention and validation.”That bit is not false. Women have a serious and expansive entitlement issue, when it comes to their idea of society.
>>25380585The foreword is by Michelle Zauner.The publishing gender decided that the best foreword to a book enjoyed by male readers would be by a woman calling men who enjoyed the book litbros, incels and douchebags.They can’t help themselves. They just hate to see us enjoy ourselves so much.
>>25380585Also I am not claiming I have a problem. I am claiming women have a problem. They can’t even sell men something that they love without appending a resentment fueled screed insulting people for liking a book. We can entertain ourselves. Women underestimate how disposable they are.
>>25380889Think about your personality. Is it really so difficult to believe people might enjoy your absence more than your presence?
>>25380958What? Again, has this ever actually happened to you? Because it's never happened to me. I think a lot of you guys sit around in your bedrooms fuming about stuff that doesn't really happen when you go outside.
>>25381102It’s in the forward of the book.The ‘people’ trying to sell me a book put it there.They want me to pay them shekels to call me names. Ordinarily I would try to support the author I like but DFW is deceased. Maybe support his estate?Well he didn’t have any kids so his estate is just his wife. And his wife probably approved the fuck the patriarchy forward. So fuck her.No shekels for feminists.
>>25374298>It's a compassionate and genuine book with no hate in its pagesthat sounds beta as fuck. women generally hate betas and only respect psychopathic Chads like Christian Grey.
>>25380959>i don't read
>>25381270lmao, I just read the intro and she just addresses its reputation and her conclusion is that it's unfair. Lmao. Losers making shit up to be mad about like I said. You don't even really hate women. It sounds like you've never been wronged by a woman in your life. You're just performing hatred of women because you're some NEET Indian mimicking what you see online. Try getting cheated on or something and come back to us. Lmao.
>>25380879What's wrong with canon books as a starting point? Sounds like a much more enjoyable experience than picking a random book of the shelf and hoping it isn't terrible
>>25380322idk u still sound mad
>>25374298Tennis is fucking gay
>>25374298Sounds like a mirror that would only make the female realize she is a black widow
>>25374298women have a primal terror at being laughed at.>>25374316nirvana
>>25382174Far less women kill themselves compared to men of equal privilege and class, it surprisingly uncommon for men to kill themselves for getting no romantic or sexual activity even as young as 14
>>25382185*Fewer
>>25381852No idea what the hell infidelity or India have to do with anything. She’s just annoying.Unpleasant company.I’m happier without the gift of her personality in my life.
>>25374316
>>25382223The point is to get a real problem instead of seething over the headline of a Jezebel post you glimpsed 10 years ago. I don't hate hatred, but I hate people who just hate others because they (the hater) are just a fucking loser. The people who suck at their job and blame immigrants, men who hate women because nobody wants to fuck them, women who hate men because they're fat as fuck and unpleasant on top, etc. That's you, you're just a fucking loser. It's cringe.
>>25382185that doesnt address what I said.
>>25382348Meh.I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.I can’t stand Jezebels or publishers or Zauner or complainers, scolds, nags, virtue signalers or killjoys. I don’t have to read their stuff. I’m happier without them.
>>25374298I looked at the catalog too fast and thought I read "Infinite Jeets"
>>25376022>litbrosThose don't exist. 5 man-hating journos made a moral panic about it, that's it.One day it's "men don't read", the next it's "male book red flags" and the following it's "lit-bros".Just ignore them, they hate being ignored and have a big inferiority complex
>>25379767>They are the gender where fun goes to die.Is that true? I thought we agreed they were the frivolous, flighty eternal children.
>>25376848And I suppose you don't partake in chasing silly social signifiers for any reason whatsoever? Everything you do is divorced from culture? Sure. You don't even brush your hair or wear clothes that are socially acceptable.
>>25385383Not at all what I said. I said I don't like men who read to impress other men. That you extrapolated this to include the totality of signaling is why I don't like you guys: because you're fucking stupid. You rack up canon books like a video game score to appear intelligent to one another but in reality, there's nothing there.