Justice Thomas cited both Aristotle and Aquinas in his dissent in the recent Trump v. Barbara case.Pretty cool, thought Id share.
>>25375074This is just retarded fake snobbery, probably written by some smarmy law clerk who’s a year away from becoming a first-year associate at Sullivan & Cromwell. They absolutely did not read the Politics or Aquinas. Lawyers, law students, and law professors love quote-mining shit they don’t read. In fact, you are literally taught to do this, and encouraged in law review journals to do this (professors submit skeletons of articles lacking citations, forcing 2Ls to re-construct entire articles by source- and quote-mining to back up some ex tempore idea the law professor jotted down or generated with AI). Citation-spamming in legal writing is a complete joke and gave me an eye for fake scholarship, the more footnotes, the more likely the article or book you’re reading is part of a network of fake scholarship maintaining one another’s tenure. Anyway, even assuming there is actual purpose behind quoting prestigious names other than as a favor to spur fake ass journal article opportunities for Thomas’ tenured law professor friends “researching” natural law at like Antonin Scalia Law School or wherever, it’s retarded because the US isn’t a Greek polis nor a medieval commune like Paris, a historical distinction that you would think is facially obvious, but perhaps not so obvious to a fake, pre-critical field like “law” so it’s a non-sequitur meant to dazzle FedSoc tradcaths.
>>25375112>typical 4chan cynic impressed by nothing Never change, 4chinz.
>>25375074He should quote Plato’s statesman on the issue of democracy (but he won’t. He’s too Kosher).
>>25375112It's just Aristotle and Aquinas. Of course a guy who went to seminary would have read them.
>>25375074Citizenship should never be given freely to anyone. It should be earned.
>>25375112Thomas was a seminarian, he read both. You get an education before you enter law school.
>>25375139If you wish to change the current laws, then you must change the current laws. Until the current laws are changed, you must abide by the current laws.
>>25375074Wasn't Aristotle an immigrant who overstayed on his student visa?
>>25375197He was from Athens originally but because of a fall out with the Platonist school particularly Stessipus, he moved elsewhere and became famously tutor to Alexander. He was really driven out of Athens by dogmatic Plato followers who hated his ideas.
>>25375201>He was from Athens originallyHe was from Stagira.
>>25375206>> At the age of seventeen or eighteen, Aristotle moved to Athens to continue his education at Plato's Academy.[11] He became distinguished as a researcher and lecturer, earning for himself the nickname "mind of the school" by his tutor Plato.He was from Thessalonia the same way Abe Lincoln was from Kentucky but is remembered as an Illinoisan for living his adult life there.
>>25375201>>25375221What? Everyone knows he's a Macedonian, not Athenian, and he was chased out of Athens because of anti-Macedonian sentiment after Alexander died, not by rabid Platonists.
>>25375246He was extremely butt hurt about Stessipus being chosen to lead the academy which is part of why he left. That is common knowledge
>>25375112the translation cited makes me think it might actually be thomas. i think schools have been moving away from jowett for a while now, his current clerks would probably have studied a different translator.
>>25375255That's (maybe) why he left the Academy, not why he left Athens at the end of his life.
>>25375189I don't know what anyone was expecting, an Executive Order can't override a Constitutional Amendment. If anything I'm surprised the vote was this close.Maybe this means we're moving closer to my preferred outcome, where we just have a king/dictator. Perhaps the time of "You know, the Constitution is just a piece of paper" is drawing closer.
>>25375400>Perhaps the time of "You know, the Constitution is just a piece of paper" is drawing closer.That’s been clear for awhile. At this point it’s just a matter of how far each president pushes it. We’ll have Caesar in 50 years or less
>>25375400>Maybe this means we're moving closer to my preferred outcome, where we just have a king/dictatorWhat makes you think that'd fix anything?
>>25375408Works for me, I'll take a pro-salad President over a pro-hamburger President any day.
>>25375415It would be more entertaining, no? Besides, Uncle Ted says that we have to intentionally make society worse if we want the world's citizens to become fed up with society and overthrow it.
>>25375422>It would be more entertaining, no?I'm not a psychopath, so no. It wouldn't be entertaining at all. Accelerationism is evil.
>>25375400It was about the interpretation of that clause. Thomas' dissent is sound, read a summary.
>>25375458It's sound and I agree with the principle to eliminate birth right citizenship, but there's just too much precedent to over come it; both in how it has been implemented and with the plain language of the 14th amendment. Sadly we'll never get a new amendment to end the border hopping obstacle course and baby relay. Human dignity be damned, we need a slave class and a consistent voting bloc.
>>25375475>but there's just too much precedent to over come itIs there?In the Wong Kim Ark case, Thomas pointed out that Wong’s parents were lawful, permanent residents who had established a fixed domicile in the United States with the permission of the government.He then argued that it is a massive, legally unjustified leap to apply that specific late 19th century ruling to children of parents who are in the country unlawfully or on temporary visas, as they do not share that same permanent, lawful domicile status.
>>25375418Horrible, horrible opinion. In the 1984 science fiction film "2010" (itself based on the pretty good book of the same name), there is an early scene in which the head science guy confers with a White House staffer about a necessary space mission back out to Jupiter. The staffer correctly complains about the dietary preferences encouraged by the past administration: "Under the last guy, we didn't have lunch... we GRAZED", he says with contempt. Meaning that they get real food now (meat, a sandwich wth meat, even a burger if you like), and not (just) a fucking salad. In the political context of the period, this is a clear reference to the weak, liberal, effeminite and salad-liking Carter years, to which are opposed the strong and masculine Reagan years. That same year, Reagan would be re-elected with something just short of the unanimity of the states, spoiled only by the idiot people of the stupid state of Minnesota, the state where I have the misfortune to be resident.For further proof of the goodness of burger-liking presidents, one need look no further than the little event when Trump had a bunch of burgers catered to feed a visiting sports team or two while the government was shut down. The photographs, the optics annoyed precisely that class of human beings who need to remain constantly annoyed.
>>25375499You've convinced me; to give ourselves Caesar would be an "Emperor's New Clothes" situation, i.e. empty dressing.
>>25375497Hey man, you don't need to convince me. I already agree with you. The fact is we've allowed the nonsense for so long, the language is plain and simple, and it's not the court's job to draft legislation. Congress could have fixed this decades ago, but they won't.
>>25375112Yeah those quotes are lame as fuck.Now do Cravath.
>>25375189Bullshit. Slaves are under no moral obligation to follow the corrupt law that enslaves them
>>25375112Maxinum insecure seething here. Not everyone is an unread retard like you.
>>25375074if it's such a big deal, they could just stop pregnant women from visiting the country
>>25375074Tommy A, still bringing the heat
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>>25375422>Uncle TedYou have to be 18 to use this website.
>>25375074I think Thomas is a retard when he rules against me, I think Thomas is a retard when he rules against.He will die & be forgotten.
>>25375112> no youre not allowed to talk about aristotle and aquinas> you can only talk about the canon of books you read in school
>>25376363We used to stone people for less.
