Any books that help cure alcoholism
smoke weed instead dude
>>25380096Please help meI think I'm going to die from this man
How bad are you? A liter of liquor a day? 12 pack of beer? What's going on OP.I'm a sober alcy, I would be happy to share what I know.
>>25380116I have drank six beers today I'm a lightweight though and even two or three are enoug to get me buzzed. I just want to stop. Whenever I try the next day the craving gets to me.
>>25380112idk man my sister fell off the wagon like a month ago and is in rehab but this time her insurance wouldn't pay for the fancy one she did before where a bunch of nurses wait on u hand and foot poolside, so now she's in like a halfway house where she has to live with five other fuckups in a dumpy house in some shitty suburb, lmao. i bet she won't pull that again.oh, but, to your question, idk man, just raw dog reality. embrace the suck. that's what i do.
>>25380122Right on anon. Do you have any thoughts on AA?
>>25380122i'm like that with /lit/ this place wastes all my time and this board gets dumber every year but i still go oh i'll just browse for one second then ten hours later i'm like well there goes another day down the drain. maybe its like how the first time u do heroin u get hella high supposedly, but then it's never as good, like when i first started browsing /lit/ the first year i read gravity's rainbow and the iliad and i'm bruh this is the greatest shit ever but now i just come here and it's never that good again
>>25380140I don't know what that measn
>>25380147it's were washed up boomers and postwall roasties get together and tell each other stories about all their coolest parties back in the day like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUOVoPfZZnM
>>25380074Find your nearest AA meeting and someone will give you a copy of this. I want to stress it's the meeting that works, not the book. You have to go to the meetings. You should go to one a dayBeen sober since Easter Sunday 2023. One day at a timeGood luck anon
>>25380096good idea. as homosexuality and schizophrenia inducing as weed is, it might scratch the itch and a weed addiction is incomparably easier to deal with than alcohol.
>>25380147This is called "The Big Book." It's the main text of the utterly benevolent cult known as "alcoholics anonymous." They have chapters in pretty much every American city and also can be found all around the world. AA is a tried and true peer-support group run entirely by alcoholics in recovery who are trying to help newly sober alcoholics stay sober. It's kind of cheesy and lame at times but really it's a very warm, sincere and honest organization at its heart.If you ever wanted to hang out with people who have been through it and made it out alive (and are now thriving) then drop into a meeting. The only requirement to be there is that you have a desire to quit drinking. I wouldn't advise it but if you showed up drunk and said "I"m drunk but I wish I wasn't, can anyone help me?" you would be taken care of by some very good people who have been there, done that and seen it all before. It's also one of the best ways to make friends-- true friends, especially for people who don't belong to a church or any affiliated group. If you're curious you can get your hands on a Big Book (free online) and check it out. Some of the terminology ("allergy") is a bit dated but the gist of it is quite accurate. Certain people just can't handle booze, it just gets us. It doesn't really matter why, all that matters is understanding you're one of those people that don't get along with it. The second half of the book has lots of stories written by different alcys who got sober-- if you just read those you will find one of them that is just like your own story. It will help. If you go to a meeting the first one will be daunting but they will get really easy even if you have anxiety. I started looking forward to meetings pretty soon.
>>25380160oh no, here comes one of those cultists. aa is the worst case of survivorship bias ever. basically for people that stopped anyways it "worked" but for people it doesn't help, the cultist blame them like "well they just didnt' work the steps enough..." so yeah aa is full of people it "worked" for, but u don't see all the other people that are dead, in prison, or in a gutter, that it didn't work for, not to mention half the people in any meeting relapsed six months ago or whatever. lame program. the government only pushed it because it's cheaper than getting qualified professionals to treat people.
>>25380074Try LSD. It helped me quit meth, weed, added sugar, and caffeine. Bill Wilson (co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous) thought that it could a useful tool for overcoming alcoholism. Just be aware you're consuming a mind altering substance and don't turn into some spiritual hippie.
>>25380176yeah lsd killed weed for me. idk how i ever enjoyed weed. i mean i still smoke it occasionally but it always sucks cuz i just get those crazy paranoid lsd ideas that make u want to rope right there lmao.
>>25380174>it doesn't work for everyone so it's bullshitThis isn't a serious criticism>frequent relapsesYes, this happens when you're trying to get sober>it's a cultIf your life's falling apart because you can't stop drinking, what do you have to lose?
>>25380174all this post says is "don't tell me what to do, I'm fine!"
>>25380189no im telling him to do something that actually works, not go to a social club for washed up old boomers to tell each other stories about how much they partied in 1973.
>>25380160>>25380164We don't have Alcohol. Anon. on the Balkans.Is there a south-eastern European alternative?
>>25380195dude they have that shit everywhere i guarantee some american passport bros boomers have chapters of it in every shithole on the planet, but it's not like they advertise it
>>25380193You've never been to an AA meeting.
>>25380201i wish
>>25380195there are zoom meetings if it comes to that (in person would obviously be better). https://meetings.al-anon.org/electronic-meeting-page/
>>25380096Weed gives you psychosis. Also the higher IQ you are the worse weed is for you. It makes you fucking stupid and mentally slow. A niggercattle normie smoking weed doesn’t feel much different, it doesn’t really lower their cognition that far from their natural baseline. But if you’re sharp the difference being on it vs. off it is night and day. I’m saying this as a person who loved smoking weed but quit it so I could enjoy my brain.
>>25380227Tactical trvke. It doesn't give everyone psychosis but it's like playing Russian roulette if you're under 25, intelligent, and already a bit off. And it will make you retarded but you won't realize til you stop. It's also habitually addictive and evidence is coming out that it is actually chemically addictive on some level, despite what wiggers on reddit say. It is a drug for absolute bums and makes your life worse in every way. I quit pretty easily because every time I smoked I started thinking about how lame it was.
>>25380174Obviously the people it didn't work for can't continue attending the meetings you fucking midwit. They're dead, or in jail, or drinking their shame away because they gave up. If you actually WANT to quit, you can either try without the social group, or try with it. All the social group does is give you a support network that would help you achieve success in the mutual endeavor of all it's members: longterm sobriety. Humans are social animals. Obviously, it helps more than it doesn't for the people with the willpower to overcome it. If you're going to be a miserable faggot at least be logically coherent.
>>25382429Whoops, meant to reply to >>25380174
>>25380074don't engage with AA, they're a cult. read this instead. it works for addictions as psychological as porn addiction to ones as physiological as heroin addiction. in the end it all comes to UNDERSTANDING what is happening when you make the conscious decision to use the substance, which sounds scary because, 'wait I hold accountability??', yes, and this book completely de-mystifies it. again, it's about UNDERSTANDING what is going on that drives your use, including factors like false or inflated perception of benefit, (an addict) self-image, or a straight-up belief in the powerfully convincing yet dogmatic assertion that addiction is involuntary.ABSOLUTELY UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should take my word for it though, just read it, and make come to the understanding yourself. I can't really summarise a 500 page book in one post, though I can try answering some questions. if you're desparate and want a gentler introduction I think there also exists a 50-page official abridgement, but you'll do yourself a favour by reading the bigger book (at least afterwards).
>>25380074Erm no
>>25380122Dude I'm not even an alcoholic and last night I had uhhhh, eleven or so alcoholic beverages.
Go to a meeting anon, try zoom if you have to. Ignore the AA hate in this thread, it’s probably the same anon who posts in every alcoholism related thread who is bitter some roastie at his local meeting called him out for being a petulant man-child liar. Good luck buddy, just take it one day at a time
>>25380074Swap alcohol addiction for kratom addiction. Much healthier.
>>25383162unironically exactly what I did and now I go into withdrawal if I don't take kratom every ~4 hours, but at least I can walk down stairs now and have a normal life
>>25380074No book will beat getting professional help.Maybe leaving las vegas could help by showing what will happen if you take alcholosim to its extreme
