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> The figure of the Stoic is really nothing more than a hollow theoretical puppet - and Stoicism itself is a philosophy that would be best ignored.

> In the face of great suffering, the healthiest response is clearly to weep, to cry out, to groan, to implore the pity of God or of other human beings.

> The literary records show that the knights of the Middle Ages shed tears without restraint at the deaths of their comrades. Indeed, it was only from the beginning of the 20th century - and especially in English-speaking countries - that the compulsion to repress one's emotions took hold, at the same time as the idea that death must be concealed from view, and for the same reasons.

> In the end, then, dignity has only one function - though it is a huge function. It legitimises the constant practice of the most perfect selfishness.

From a new essay against euthanasia:

https://unherd.com/2026/07/the-euthanasia-of-the-west/
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>>25384837
How can you argue that a person who wants to kill themself should be forced not to by the state? Hard mode: you can't cheat by saying "God says no"
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>>25384837
This is why Canada is so particularly demonic compared to the other Western nations with similar diseases.
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>>25384837
Nowhere in Stoicism does it teach you to repress emotion. The Greeks cried. It was the barbarians who considered it unmanly.
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Stoicism is distasteful because it tried to make an entire philosophy out of coping.
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>>25385171
>themself

>Themself is a gender-neutral reflexive or intensive pronoun used to refer to a single person. It is used when the subject and the object of a sentence are the same. For example: "They bought themself a coffee".
>While "themselves" is the traditional standard, "themself" has seen a massive resurgence in recent years to provide clarity that the speaker is referring to exactly one person, much like "yourself".
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Can someone post it without the paywall, please?
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>>25385802
>https://archive.ph/C9U5a
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>>25384837
>even more boomer drivel, now wrapped in conservatard sheen
He just can't stop, can he? Annihilation came out in '22, it was pure slop and barely finishable, and 4 years later he's still doing this exact bit. And paywalled too, on top of it...
I wouldn't mind it half as much if he'd at least be honest and let it be known for what it truly is - his own fear of dying, instead of trying to pass it off as le concern for le west and le humanity etc.
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>Anyone who has ever written — or even merely attempted to write — knows that however difficult it may be to explain why, it is sometimes possible to express in writing realities inaccessible to speech. And anyone who has truly written knows something sadder still: what one actually manages to write will only ever be the merest trace of what one dreamed of writing. Even someone as monstrously productive as Balzac acknowledged as much: the books we have written are less beautiful than those we imagined writing. Speech is only a fraction of writing, which is itself only a fraction of our inner life. To reduce the human spirit to its capacity for oral communication is, quite simply, dumb.
He's saying that in opposition to people who'd rather die than become a vegetable. The argument, it seems to me, is that even without manifesting anything to the world (speaking, writing, moving...) it may be valuable to continue living, as our inner lives are richer than what we express. This reads beautiful, but in practice I see becoming a vegetable akin to have an indefinite sleep paralysis. Idk, maybe silence is more valuable when we can choose to be quiet instead or foced to it.
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>>25385822
>I wouldn't mind it half as much if he'd at least be honest and let it be known for what it truly is - his own fear of dying, instead of trying to pass it off as le concern for le west and le humanity etc
Based.
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>>25385912
>I wouldn't mind it half as much if he'd at least be honest and let it be known for what it truly is - his own fear of dying
His subjective motives don't affect the objective power, or lack thereof, of his arguments.

The case against euthanasia is:
1. Killing one's own people is a bad habit for a government to get into. The terminally ill won't be the last to die.
2. Minds change. Someone who wants to die today may think differently tomorrow--but not if he's dead.
3. Supposedly incurable conditions are progressively being cured.
4. Care for the suffering, like bravery in the face of suffering, doesn't exist without suffering. The sum total of compassion would be diminished if we murdered those to whom we might otherwise extend it.
5. It does fly in the face of most religions, Buddhism included. Instituting practices (fatal ones, at that) in the teeth of multitudes who consider it against their faith leads to social disruption.
6. The /pol/ objection. The group with the highest rate of suicide are white males. The group with the lowest are black females. Euthasia is just another woke mask for white genocide.
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>>25384837
>>25385273
He clearly hasn't read even introductory stoic philosophy and is erroneously extrapolating the modern sense, of 'toxic masculinity', onto the original philosophy. Then he summarises the, woefully, outdated and incorrect History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, by saying 'the Roman empire fell due to the rise of Christianity'. Why should I take seriously anything he has to say on topics like this when his world view is so self serving and out of touch with reality?
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>it may be valuable to continue living, as our inner lives are richer than what we express
a senile boomer's inner life of delusion and impotent rage is certainly worth the cost of having someone keep wiping his ass until he croaks, if only young'uns would stop being so selfish wanting to enjoy life instead of pumping out as much biomass as possible for the workforce-retirement malthusian ponzi scheme, oh well i guess we do need migration after all BUT LEGAL so they pay taxes and fund the pensions
so you vill own nothing not even your life or the dignity to go out on your own terms (and that's a good thing)
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christ is kang btw, you are jewish, denounce vishnu, live laugh love, the missile knows where it is at all times
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>>25384837
I'm gonna skip this and say he probably misunderstands stoicism like everyone else
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>>25385171
Disingenuous post.
Legalised murder mascarading as a medical procedure is not suicide in any way or shape. Suicide was decriminalised in France in 1791 and has never been contested since. Already those anti-suicide laws were in practice not applied in the 18th century.



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