Nietzsche or Jesus?
>>25390178christ is far more radical, far more interesting
>>25390178one kickstarted the West, the other proclaimed its death.
>>25390178H.G.Wells
>>25390178That is my current dilemma. I wish I was strong enough to follow Nietzsche's footsteps and create my own meaning but when I live like that I always become miserable and self-destructive.The teachings of Jesus give me purpose and peace of mind because the idea that our suffering isn't in vain is so comforting, even though deep inside me I'm a non-believer.
>>25390178Both, in some way, but more Jesus than Nietzsche.
>>25390252>I wish I was strong enough to follow Nietzsche's footsteps and create my own meaning but when I live like that I always become miserable and self-destructiveEven Nietzsche couldn't follow in Nietzsche's footsteps, and you explained exactly what happens if you try.
>>25390178Both kind of? For different but related reasons.
>>25390258You are right. Strangely I've found some peace reading Cioran recently. Despair should be accepted and the idea that suicide is always an option makes living more bearable.
>>25390178
>>25390178"Verily, too early died that Hebrew whom the preachers of slow death honour: and to many hath it proved a calamity that he died too early.As yet had he known only tears, and the melancholy of the Hebrews, together with the hatred of the good and just—the Hebrew Jesus: then was he seized with the longing for death.Had he but remained in the wilderness, and far from the good and just! Then, perhaps, would he have learned to live, and love the earth—and laughter also!Believe it, my brethren! He died too early; he himself would have disavowed his doctrine had he attained to my age! Noble enough was he to disavow!But he was still immature. Immaturely loveth the youth, and immaturely also hateth he man and earth. Confined and awkward are still his soul and the wings of his spirit.But in man there is more of the child than in the youth, and less of melancholy: better understandeth he about life and death."
>>25390178A job. Get a job.
>>25390307Why?
>>25390307Employment is a jewish psyop
>>25390307So much this, think about Mr. Goldenstein! How will he buy a new yacht?
Far and away Jesus Christ
>>25390307Get a part time job at most, full job is a scam.
>>25390307This isn't about Job. This is about Jesus versus Nietzsche.
I absolutely and totally believe in the literal truth of Christianity and Jesus Christ.It's all real. It's all true. All of Genesis, the Creation and the Fall and the Nephilim and the Flood. The story of Moses, the conquest of the Holy Land, the Captivity and the Return. John the Baptist, Holy Mother Mary, the Virgin Birth, the Mission, the Preaching of the Gospel, the Passion, the Crucifixion, and the Resurrection, most of all.It's all true. All the miracles, all the healings, all the apparitions, all the prophecies. Bleeding Eucharists, and the healing waters of Lourdes, and the Sun dancing in the sky at Fatima. It's all true.The world is charged with the grandeur of God, as Gerard Manley Hopkins writes. It's all real, all that power and splendor and otherworldiness is as real as the phone in your hands.But we lose our way and we forget about it. And that's where Nietzsche comes in. We forget God, and Nietzsche comes to remind us that God without God is merely a pantomime, a hollow shell that falls apart upon sufficient attack.The only response to Nietzsche is the grandeur of God, the power of God, the glorious reality of the world that permits a man to rise from the dead. Nothing else will do to respond to Nietzsche. Nothing else is adequate.A weak and un-miraculous Christianity isn't going to cut it against Nietzsche, or the Modern world.
>>25390178From a biological perspective jesus preachings are pure retardation and being kind to everyone is why his followers are slowly vanishing from the gene pool. Life = Competition, it's that simple.
>>25390307Huh, this board is populated by zoomers.
>>25390178Jesus was cooler
>>25390178is this place just twitter now?
>>25390368Zoomers are practically 25 now
Nietzsche > JesusThe only interesting things attributable to Jesus are parables in the Bible, and some moralfagging speeches. Some of them are fairly interesting but ehh.
>>25390191>>25390217>>25390329>>25390344Jesus didn't rise from the dead and he's never coming back.
>>25390178Same person. Few will understand.
>>25390217The west wasn't kickstarted until they re-integrated hellenistic culture post dark ages.
just act like a knight
>>25390679I prefer to act like a scoundrel
>>25390178While I would personally go with Nietzsche, his "teachings" in the fullest extent could only seem appealing to self-destructive workaholics working in some type of theoretical or artistic-adjacent fields, you're essentially choosing to become your own prison wardIn that sense Christianity is in many ways a lot more comforting and works a lot better for maintaining a "working" society, in particular the doctrine of "man being born in evil" is something which seems to carry a lot of truth in a strict biological sense and is something I agree with in a lot of waysthe world is too quantum and granular to "create your own meaning" in any sort of concrete sense, unless you enjoy the prospect of fully surrendering your body and mind in service of science or arts I dont think Nietzsche will strike much of a cord with you
>>25390787Forgot pic
>>25390789>could only seem appealing to self-destructive workaholicshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosis
One followed his own teachings, one didn't.>>>/his/
>>25390307What if I don't need it because I have a rich patroness?
>>25390787>>25390794Fair enough
>>25390217jesus was a Mesopotamian?
not a difficult choice.
