How did this French fag become the most cited academic ever?
>>25396686to much pseuds
read this and you'll understand
Helpful for gay pederast leftist professors who are anti-communist anti-Marxists who still want to do criticism without undermining their position as rich tenured academics.
>>25396686Child raping jews run the world
>>25396686cucks have a power fetish and Fuckboy wrote about power
>>25396741This is /lit/; we don't read books.
16th century:>how did this greek fag become the most cited academic ever?
>>25396686Interdisciplinary, revolutionary concepts of power, adaptability of frameworks.
>>25396929Sounds like a bunch of fag shit
>>25396686maybe because he's right???
>>25396932What are you doing on here again?
>>25396741You realize Foucault didn't really talk about race, gender and identity? Those were not his focus at all.
>>25396686He's the most assigned author in colleges by a pretty impressive margin, almost like 50% more than Shakespeare. Aside from being 12th in philosophy, he's at the top of most social sciences and humanities fields. In English, he is more assigned than Milton, Keats, and almost beats Chaucer. In literature he is beating Dante and Virgil.
>>25396992A damning indictment of higher education.
>>25396959No shit, it's all the later thinkers who succeeded Foucault that ended up using poststructuralism in order to make everything about race, gender and identity since the concept of objective truths (there are two genders) is supposedly oppressive
>>25396686he talks like a fag and his shits all retarded
>>25396686its bizarre.He basically thinks there is no emancipatory, progressive, liberating value to the Humanities. They're utterly flawed ...... and yet he gets taught to humanities students who aren't able to understand what he wrote and are unable to situate what he said into any context because they know nothing of where he (his thought) came from. I remember undergrad sociology courses giving students printouts of the "foucauldian position" that didn't have a single quote from a primary source. >>25396992>He's the most assigned author What does that mean? Because I keep coming across students who think Foucault is great but have never read anything he's ever written ever. This has been happening for decades. Whats going on there?His work is riveting to read but completely fucking useless. also he raped per-pubescent rentboys in Algeria when he worked as a teacher there? Why does he get a pass on that?
>>25397037>also he raped per-pubescent rentboys in Algeria when he worked as a teacher there? Why does he get a pass on that?Moralfaggotry is tedious.
>>25397042true oldfag
>>25397037>What does that mean? It means that on the thousands upon thousands of syllabi collected by the Open Syllabus project, Foucault is there far more than any other figure. Also, if you want a laugh, go look for figures in philosophy from between Aristotle and the modern period and where they rank next to even pop science writers in contemporary philosophy education.Dawkins and Sam Harris is ahead of Aquinas and Augustine. Pretty sure Hitchens was ahead of Augustine too.
Good. Fuck all your gay ideologies. Think for yourself
>>25397818All I think about is pussy, money, and drugs.
>>25396686by being based as hellhis pedophilia? unfoundedhis books? awesomesauce
Isn't raping a rentboy just theft?
>>25397831With your dicklet it would be
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>>25396686One of the most misunderstood people of our time. He's enriching to read regardless of your political stance and he is not saying what some of you belief he says.
>>25396686He wrote stuff that is easy to understand so even dumb people can read and comment on his work. Being widely cited is jut good up to a point, someone doing serious work on the frontier of human knowledge will not get that much citations because his work will not be understood by most. Quine was easily 10x the philosopher this bozo was, but his work was much more technically demanding, so he got less citations.
>>25396687All academic speek is pseudo-acedemic speekIts a form of black magick to put the other down and raise your self as an authority
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>>25397075A different anon here who does not know how to navigate that site, Can you please tell where Kinsey is compared to other people who wrote academically about sexKinsey was the vehicle whatever satanist regime there is used to reintroduce what the nazis burned He discredited everyone else's scientific surveys and work criticizing their methods... and then used survey data from deviant prisoners and by going to cities where there were deviants to sculpt his own data to suggest that many were deviant, and because of the amygdala and social peer pressure, more people became deviants. He constantly did poor science. He just wrote for his satanic regime, but people still bring up his black magic bullshit
>>25398186the other people who wrote about sex start with the obscenity of sigmund fraud
>>25397037>raped>pre-pubescentIs this actually true or are you just having a melty at the thought that a man could have consensual sex with someone below an arbitrary age limit imposed by the federal government? Is that where you think morality entirely derives from, the state? Your anti-"pedo" stance is THE most effective way to control you, I hope you realize this.
>>25396686academic lefties will worship him despite advocating for pedophilia but will say that Ayn Rand is worthless because living on welfare made her an hypocrite
>>25398240Now that I think about there aren't any right-wing intellectuals.
>>25398343There never have been.
>>25397037>also he raped rentboys in Algeriasource?
>>25398415That's funny.
>>25398314this has to be the least articulate or convincing political comic I've ever seen
>>25396959>>25397953Foucault is a mandatory read for anyone who has some resistance to the homogenization ultimately dictated, I argue, by modern capital. This is a requirement to be an individual in the 21st century. He's the greatest figure in philosophy after Nietzsche precisely because he investigates the fabrication of the human subject, through the human sciences, and ultimately elucidates that it's groundless, its truth lies on power relations subjugating bodies. His late work, I believe, turns to the Greeks, following this problematic, but ultimately his most famous works (Birth of the Clinic, Madness and Civilization, Discipline and Punish) are all about the liberation of bodies, that is, of subjects (like Nietzsche in Zarathustra "the soul is just a part of the body") from its degradation by modern cattle society.
>>25397953I was reading Discipline and Punish and his writing is suprisingly clear for a post modernist
>>25398484Anyone who says he's obscure hasn't read him. Or it's genuine retards that are too dumb for academic writing, which if is the case, their opinions should be disregarded. His prose is apparently eloquent and pleasant in the original French iirc.
>an uncooth man who was embued deeply in his sciences says, its nonsense and every minute and instant wasted on those books is utterly and entire lost and those names will burden your memory...something like that was written by >Percy Shelly and Byron et alet al including Marytogether they collaborated and made an enlightening book.>they shared fire
>>25396686>>25397037>>25398482>proto-Super Ramon
>>25398482>power relations subjugating bodiesoh, like when he raped those algerian boys
>>25396959You assume the average /lit/ard actually read a single line from Foucault or any serious commenter
>>25399009See >>25397042If you want to be a moralfaggot, please, acess https://www.reddit.com/
>>25397864Utterly incomprehensible AIslop babble
>>25399109fookoh sure had this obsession with undermining the power structures that prevented him from raping children
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>>25399116a civilized man has two countries, his own and france, notre dame cathedral built by hundreds of years of the most skillful craftsmen, the very concept of the political left, and then the great french intellectual comes to your village to teach you, that, even in your innermost feelings that you dont even fully feel yet, nothing is sacred, but everything is traded for the slightest material advantage with the amount of thought put into it that a child puts into anything, this is teaching slavery
>>25399124>>25399128Erm... reddit is right there, you guys.
>>25396686From the way you speak, OP, you sound chuddish so you will likely find that you actually like Fucko after you read his books
>>25396686He's intelligent and I get why his works are important, but I feel as though he's the most cited (or most assigned to students?) because his writings, comparing to philosophers here even doe he's read more in sociology depts, don't contain a ton of jargon and the context he was writing can be (wrongly) ignored when reading in a way other 20th century continental thinkers cannot. If we're talking first/second year undergrad philosophy students, it's no wonder why he's assigned vs someone like Heidegger. And it doesn't help that many philosophy profs are retarded anyways. And sociologists are usually even more retarded and can't read the more abstract foundational phil theory behind their ideology. Fewko is their limit for reading comprehension. But it doesn't matter. Any stats are just noise. There's no reason to pay attention to anything other than a few dozen (at most) philosophy departments in the United States. The rest are just flyover school weed-infused daycare for goyim.
>>25399209the reason neoliberal courtiers assign fucko the algerian boy rapist is fucko justified rich people doing whatever they wanted which is what neoliberal courtiers are paid to teach
>>25399209Give it 10 years.Academic essays will use emojis (some already do)And Taylor Swift's Folklore will be the most cited work in the world.
Why cant we use emoji glyphs on 4channel?
>>25396959Foucault was an insane degenerate who worshippef idpol and is responsible for the insane degenerate world you see today.It's time to rise up and worship Adolf Hitler.
>>25396686The most efficient transmission method ever devised. More seriously Foucault spends a big part of his days giving academia and related systems the rightful trashing they deserve, all the while his writings superficially look like a caricature of academic discourse. It allows for a seemingly safe self criticism by academia (seemingly in the sense that it is neutralised). Ultimately he should be treated a sidekick student of Cainguillem but no one wants to hear about the use of definitions and categorisation in biology.
>>25399196This. You just know that chuds are stupid and illiterate because they would absolutely love french po-mo if they actually read it instead of dismissing as woke nonsense.There's a reason why some of the most powerful and influential chuds in the world (such as Peter Thiel) are inspired by guys like Deleuze.
>>25398236Control is fine and good. You are just a mindless hedonist who is worth less than the cattle you eat.
>>25399895Why do you think that chuds would love french po-mos? Also, why do you think that Thiel was "inspired by" Deleuze?
>>25398343There is, you just don't look hard enough. Peter Augustine Lawler, Russell Kirk, Robert Higgs, Charles Taylor (fringe case), Michael Burleigh, Alister McGrath, etc
>>25399799I always wondered that
>>25399804Foucault's influence on contemporary ID politics is about as good an instance of "careful what you wish for" as modern day intellectual history has to offer.If he was alive today some of the ways in which he helped to inform "identity politics" would look recognizable to him (e.g. skepticism of universal truths). But in other important respects Foucault would have pushed back against the ideologies his work inspired. He would have recognized that the attempt to reshape existing discourses for political ends, though conceived as an act of liberation, was likely to create new forms of oppression. And he would have abhorred how big social media platforms like facebook and twitter have turned public debate into a modern day panopticon, with every misstep subject to draconian punishment and users trying to follow an amorphous set of rules about what can and cannot be said in acts of anticipatory obedience.
You know why
>>25399925>Why do you think that chuds would love french po-mos?Because french po-mo is a very very nietzchean movement (to the point more tradional leftists rejected them back then) using the method developed in Genealogy of Morals to revaluate the whole post-enlightenment western morality, which made them also very anti-neoliberal and anti-modern establishment. They used their critical methods to reinterpret the whole modern society and how empty of value it is. They weren't necessarily woke per se, but it was the woke movement that spawned from them.Both Progressives (wokes) and Reactionaries (chuds) reject the current neoliberal status quo, just in opposite directions. Chuds can use french po-mo critical theory to "retvrn" to a better past.Also, guys like Baudrillard are very critical of shallowness of modern mass media, which is a big talking point of the chudsphere. Deleuze and Guattari are almost fascistic in the way they they talk about superior ethics of the old nomadic warrior.There's a lot to french po-mo that appeal to the chuds.>Also, why do you think that Thiel was "inspired by" Deleuze?Because his main gurus are Nick Land and Curtis Yarvin, both big deleuzeheads (especially Land), even though they don't admit it. Most of Land's theories are lifted straight out of A Thousand Plateaus. Accelerationism as a whole is a deleuzian movement.
>>25399981>neoliberalI don't believe in that retarded nonsense spawned by a bunch of retarded marxists in the 70s. Just call it progressivism or mass democracy. There isn't much liberalism left.Also, Yarvin has stated, on record, that he has never read Land, who, as it turns out, did not actually understand what Yarvin was saying at all since Land is a retarded ex-lefty whose brain is fried on amphetamines. And Yarvin has never read Deleuze or talked about him.Aside from that, I fail to see why chuds would find this drivel interesting, but people are stupid and deserving of hellfire, so who knows. This shit just boils down to a torpid hedonism, desire for the extension of one's power with, really, no idea as to where to take it. Tgese are not serious thinkers.
>>25399981Also, i'm not sure how you'd reconcile this belief with the criticisms that actual conservatives and right wingers have made of Foucault, such as the fact that Foucault, like many people like him, is incapable of self-awareness, since his geneology is not immune to the geneological explenation it applies to everyone else. Ultimately, you end up with an ideology with no grounds for legitimacy, knowledge, right, or even coherence. You just, at best, end up woth people like Rorty who nod and say "Yes yes, it is all historically contingent. I am still going to choose to be a liberal and I dismiss anything that is said against it on principle."Politics just become rhetorical games, which may very well have been the plan all along. Only the strictest fascism,, not actually existing fascism of history, which is much too benign, but the fascism that exists in the amygdala of people, will be enough to rectify this disease of men's souls that Plato talked about in the Republic.
>>25400000QUINTS>I don't believe in that retarded nonsense spawned by a bunch of retarded marxists in the 70s.neoliberalism is a free-market, minimal government ideology/I don't think you can call Hayek, Mises, Lippmann, Röpke, Rüstow, Eucken with Friedman and Buchanan "retarded marxists"
>>25399935Would you use the power of the emoji responsibly?
>>25396686It’s amazing how many retards still don’t understand him even his fans.
>>25397016Not his fault that the people who came after him cherry-picked his philosophy solely to prove that gay sex was le good.
>>25397953Foucault’s biggest flaw was his faggotry. Had he been straight, he never would have died from AIDs and would’ve been able to stop retards from misunderstanding his work.It’s a shame that we lost the greatest mind since Nietzsche to an infected anal sex wound.
>>25399981"Traditionalist" theorists say all sorts of good things about post-modern theorists, and borrow from them in places. David Bentley Hart, John Milbank, and D.C. Schindler write about them at length for example. Catherine Pickenstock has an entire book responding to Derrida. They just charge that they:A. Tend to do horrible historical work in their genealogies, badly misrepresenting past traditions, painting them with way to broad of a brush, and generally projecting Enlightenment errors on to Islamic thought, Byzantines, Patristics, and the various phases and schools of scholasticism as if they were one homogeneous tradition (this criticism is very fair).B. Aren't actually "post" modern at all because they still hew to Enlightenment presuppositions, particularly voluntarism.I think it's fair to say though that defenders of those figures response has generally been to simply ignore these sorts of criticisms though. I've searched and found very little that even attempts to try to justify their historical takes, outside of a few caveated apologies for Heidegger (mostly these allow that he is actually speaking to a much narrower set of philosophies colored by his background in late-medieval nominalism though). I don't see how anyone could even try to defend Nietzsche qua intellectual historian DESU.
>>25399895The culture war around Foucault is funny af and truly a symptom of our retarded, anti-intellectual, vibes-based, aesthetics-based epoch. A guy who demolished modernism and Marxism, made it philosophically acceptable to be religious or spiritual after a century of materialistic modernist philosophy, yet he’s worshipped by trannies and hated by chuds because being a faggot who died from AIDs is left-coded.
>>25400198>made it philosophically acceptable to be religious or spiritualThis is what people in academic echo chambers actually believe lol. Monks and nuns outnumbered academic philosophers in the world across this entire period.
>>25400198>yet he’s worshipped by tranniesThis is not an accident. Trannies and chuda are two sides of the same gay anti-marxist coin. Post modernism is a joke that'll amount to nothing more than a cultural critique whose maind domain of application
>>25400245...application lies in liberal art college under grad analysis of Star Wars movies
>>25400244Big emphasis on>"philosophically"Monks and nuns aren't usually very philosophically bright people. They turn to a monastic life either by cultural or familial influence or by self-blaming and search for spiritual improvement. You also have to take into consideration if those monks and nuns are there permanently or not. In Thailand, for example, it's culturally common for young men to become monks for a certain period after finishing high school. But its just temporary, like an obligatory military service or a kind of pre-college. This alone pumps the numbers up.
>>25400000>And Yarvin has never read Deleuze or talked about him.Yeah, because Yarvin is retarded, who would've known?? Still Land, who is the brightest of the duo, is a big deleuzian and post-structuralist in general>Aside from that, I fail to see why chuds would find this drivel interestingThis is the same stuff leftists were talking about Nietzsche back in the early 20th century, when he was coopted by fascists. It took a while to leftists to realize that the big philosophical project started in Genealogy of Morals is way too big to fit both left and right and can be used by both of them to achieve their own goals. Those leftists who stole Nietzsche for themselves are what we call the "French Post-Modernism". It will take a while to rightwingers to realize that French Po-Mo (like Nietzsche beforehand) can be coopted to their own views as well.
>>25400459>Monks and nuns aren't usually very philosophically bright peopleyou have no idea what these monastics are required to do, do you?
>>25400487Read my post again. A huge chunk of them are there just for cultural practice, and only temporarily. Not out of religious conviction. Also, they start studying philosophy AFTER they enter the monastery. They usually don't become monks and nuns in first place out of philosophical interest.
>>25400198>made it philosophically acceptable to be religious or spiritual
>>25400525Christian religious vows are not temporary. They still do a ton of publishing, teaching, and translation. The Catholic philosophy space alone is quite large, and given that the laity and deacons, priests, etc. engage with it, I would actually be shocked if it doesn't sell more copies than analytic philosophy, and it probably always has.Hell, garbage like BAP probably outsold the entire field of analytic philosophy. Academic philosophy (continentials a little less so) has largely made itself irrelevant, particularly in the last 30 years.
>>25400564Two of my philosophy professors were Dominican tertiaries, although at the time I thought the letters after their name were just some sort of weird degree.
>>25400567Also reminded me of an old joke:The Dominicans were created to convert the Albigensian heretics. The Jesuits were created centuries later to convert the Lutherans. What's the difference? Well, when's the last time you met an Albigensian?(Or Bogomil, Waldensian, or Petrobrusian for that matter).
>>25396686I genuinely don't know, but not because I don't think he's good. Will to knowledge is one of the great insights of the 20th century, even if it's just an elaboration on ideas Nietzsche had already laid out. The odd part is how academia took it and ran with it despite the fact it discredits everything they stand up for. It's repeated non stop how capitalisms will absorb and commodify any criticism against it, but few people talk about how academia does something very similar with knowledge. Deconstruction for thee, structuralism for me. What is normal for you is actually normalized, what is normal for me is indeed normal. Fucking rats. Academics, journalists and blind capitalists all should face the firing squad. Leftists too, of course.
>>25400564>Not reading the post you answering to again AwardI don't care about what catholic monks do or not. I'm talking about global statistics of monastic people include a fuckton of buddhists monks who don't make lifetime votes.
Post-WW2 philosophy for the most part is about reinventing the Nietzschean or Heideggerian wheel but without the icky chuddy parts.
>>25400019>neoliberalism is a free-market, minimal government ideology(1) give government power to the central bank(2) government isnt excercising power, this is the free market at work
>>25396686>How did this French fag become the most cited academic ever?That's not Erdos.TWO NIL TWO NIL WE DRANK ALL YOUR ORANGE JUICETWO NIL TWO NIL WHO ENDED UP ON EPSTEIN'S LISTTWO NIL TWO NIL LANGUAGE CAN'T PROVABLY MEAN ANYTHINGTWO NIL TWO NIL WORKERS SHOULD TORTURE THE RICH TO DEATHWEDRANKALLYOURORANGEJUICE
>>25397829Carry on, then.
>>25399945Nailed it. The power screw keeps on turning (and screwing)
>>25396686His ideas are flexible and can support every conspiracy theory imaginable, and a lot of academia is just conspiracy theories.
>fag>bald>pdf(?)>fr*nchyeah, not reading shit
>>25400245Which goes to show how much of a joke modernism is as well.
>>25400019No. But I can call David Harvey a retarded marxist as well as everyone else who seriously believes we live in some "neoliberal" minimal-government regime because the banks aren't giving you a loan or something.
>>25400017> tyranny is actually timocracyYou haven't read Plato.
>>25400483>Yarvin is retardedYarvin is arguably much smarter and more well-read than Nick Land.>This is the same stuff leftists were talking about Nietzsche back in the early 20th century, when he was coopted by fascists.This is of no interest or relevance to me. You can also just easily dismiss these retarded french people who, as I said, lack self-awareness or coherence in their thought. Conservative intellectuals have already given me enough reason to dismiss this shit out of hand and treat it as nothing more than the obsession of some deluded, egotistical people who will always be nothing more than slightly more sophisticated hedonists.
>>25402112I have read the Republic quite thoroughly, some chapters more than others, granted, and I never said once in that post what you are greentexting.
>>25402137You presented 'fascism' as the virtuous government of the Republic, wich it is definetly not. I do not disagree that it may have been, in part, a short renaissance of feudalism, or the 19th Century representation of feudalism, wich in Plato's terms would have been a proto-typical oligarchy. Yes, I do not deny that some fascist ideals were a reversal towards a form of government more noble than the democracy. All this however was overshadowed by the vulgarly villanous character of Hitler, the proto-typical tyrant of antiquity; this man is no short of a Lucius Cornelius Sulla or a pirate of the Pnyx. But it is best to put it in the underrated words of Arthur de Gobineau: 'the idea of despotic government goes back to the ancient governments of Assyria, and it is rooted in the brutal idea that the negro races make themselves of dominance and power.' These words altogether smash away all Aryan ideation of Hitler's government, and in connection with the sister of fascism socialism, they both resemble the great big renaissance of the so far oppressed plebeian masses. But these are terms probably too far off for the average mind and I will leave at this: fascism = Plato's tyranny.
>>25402114yarvin is retarded
>>25402114>Yarvin is arguably much smarter and more well-read than Nick LandLol, no, he is not. And Land is not even a big league intellectual either.>Conservative intellectuals have already given me enough reason to dismiss this shit out of handConsidering what you think of Yarvin, I'm betting that the "conservative intellectuals" you speak of are Jordan Peterson and some other low-hanging fruit retards.
>>25402151>You presented 'fascism' as the virtuous government of the RepublicNope. I am not repeating Plato verbatim, but making a reference to his treatment of the soul, its keen sensitivity to influence, and its connection to the state, and in my bleak anger I suggested that only fascism could rectify it.>short renaissance of feudalismI do not recall the fascists legally tying peasants to the land they worked, but there's always a chance!>All this however was overshadowed by the vulgarly villanous character of Hitler, the proto-typical tyrant of antiquityNote the "not actually existing fascism of history" part of my post.
>>25402204No, though I am not surprised that a provincial internet moron such as yourself could only think of Jordan Peterson. Try Scruton or MacIntyre next time, though others are available.
>>25402241I will give you a chance because I seriously want to understand your thought.Explain your ideal fascism.The following critique to your comment is supposed as a suggestion.> its keen sensitivity to influence, and its connection to the state, and in my bleak anger I suggested that only fascism could rectify it.Three terms: armed people (US), direct referendum (Switzerland), House of Sires (England).The most meticulous reader of the ancients and the moderns will realize that these are living fossils of the Platonic ideals. I think that you are wrong, that the relation towards the state in our current democracies are precisely the ones emulated in Plato: one where the people is armed against the state.> not recall the fascists legally tying peasants to the land they worked, but there's always a chance!They found some of their greatest sympathizers among the anti-democratic feudalists who in Germany wanted the old aristocratic gouvernement back.
>>25396686the world is full of gay psychopath pedophiles so he caters to the majority
>>25398482>omg le argensimian refereeeenceeeekill yourself
>>25402510>t.
>>25399804Adolf Hitler 2.0 would be Mossad. 100% garanteed. Now 1.0 was not better by the way.
>>25402254>ScrutonLMAOJordan Peterson would be less shameful, holy shit.
>>25402601I liek scruton. He's an actual conservative
>>25402662>He's an actual conservativeYes, of course he is. The low quality of his books shows this perfectly.
>>25402601>I'm retarded!Yeah I know
>>25402260>I think that you are wrong, that the relation towards the state in our current democracies are precisely the ones emulated in Plato: one where the people is armed against the state.Plato talks about the state being essentially a mirror of the psychological condition of the people who embody it and democracy is explained primarily with refetence to the democratic man, who is a small soul ruled by his fickle, appetitive desires. That is precisely why he ends up advocating for things like censorship. Most of what is an example of a good state for him is something that brings about justice in the soul. I do not know where yoy are getting the whole armed against the state thing, the republic is clearly one where people obey a chosen elite and stick to their caste. You might be thinking about Aristotle's Polity of hoplites.I can't say that I am a full-on platonist. When I say fascism I mean the thing people fear: a state that inflicts pain and suffering and obstructs people's pleasures, but ideally it does so to jolt people out of their torpid, appetitive stupor and forces them to see what the buddhists call arising and falling.
>>25403372>who is a small soul ruled by his fickle, appetitive desires.This is a very basic description, but I should have added something important: the democratic man is also very shameless, and I think Plato would feel vindicated if he were to spend a week in our time.
>>25403372>>25403374You got it all backwards. The democratic is a degenerate, yes, but the freedom in democracy allows the emergence of noble types still. He is followed by a character even more degenerate, the tyrant. What makes you say that fascism, coming after democracy in the decaying line of governments, wasn't tyranny?Also, the idea that degeneracy is something that has to be exterminated through force itself is degenerate. The Republican Romans didn't force themselves to be vigorous, strong and virtuous. When this ancient Greek visited the Roman parliament, he said: 'I thought myself in an assembly of Kings.' Such was the impressive portray provided by the average Roman during Republican times.Whereas in the degenerate, democratic or tyrannical times, even the Kings and nobles are degenerates:> Let us listen to Liutprand, Bishop of Cremona, himself of Lombard origin. "We Lombards," he says, "like the Saxons, Franks, Lorrainers, Bavarians, Swabians, and Burgundians, hold the name 'Roman' in such contempt that, in our anger, we can find no greater insult for our enemies than to call them Romans; for in that single name we encompass everything ignoble, cowardly, avaricious, lustful, and deceitful—in short, every vice." For their part, the Romans undoubtedly harbored no less antipathy toward their oppressors.>Yet the Lombard race flourished in Italy, while the Roman race gradually died out. The corrupt and effeminate habits of the latter led them to prefer celibacy, whereas the energy of the Lombards—and their desire to pass on to their descendants not only their name but the glory they had won—impelled them all toward marriage.> I do not know where yoy are getting the whole armed against the state thingAll ancient governments worth the talk consisted of an armed plebbitry or elite led by a carefully controlled, elected head of state.I remain on my original supposition, that fascism was on one hand, a reversal towards the feudalism that had been abolished a few decades earlier but was still remembered and desired by a considerable number of the population, on the other one, one degeneration further ahead of democracy, thus tyranny. Let this be clear: the tyrannical tendencies will only keep increasing in the West. One of the signs is the fact that both the left and the right wing, especially all those conspiracy theorists, complain about the fact that the American President doesn't amass all the governmental power in his hands. The more a people becomes stupid, decadent and corrupt, the more it tends towards giving all the national power into the hands of a single individual.
>>25402537Argentina will never be the country you jerk off to in your fantasies. The problem is in the blood, it's inside you
>>25403719>All ancient governments worth the talk consisted of an armed plebbitry or elite led by a carefully controlled, elected head of state.No, they were not. In fact, there has never been a single state in all of history worth its salt. They were all, always, mindless pleasure-seeking animals.>I remain on my original supposition, that fascism was on one hand, a reversal towards the feudalism that had been abolished a few decades earlierNote that you believe this solely because some morons who believed this supported the NSDAP. But I'm not sure what you think feudalism is.>One of the signs is the fact that both the left and the right wing, especially all those conspiracy theorists, complain about the fact that the American President doesn't amass all the governmental power in his hands. The more a people becomes stupid, decadent and corrupt, the more it tends towards giving all the national power into the hands of a single individual.This is a cogent observation, but it points to the fact that the masses are sovereign in more ways than the legal. The convulsions within the mass, whose origins are obscure and without a stable orchestrator, have dire consequences in the politics of our state. Modern telecommunications exacerbate this relationship as all people in modern democracies become absorbed into the mass and subject to its psychology whether they like it or not. Not elites are are exempt from this as all see the same things and take part in the same discussion. In fact, statesmen are the greatest victims of this as their positions are secured based on how they can appease the mass (Plato also says this). We are at the mercy of the gods.
>>25404022> elected head of state.No, they were not. In fact, there has never been a single state in all of history worth its salt. They were all, always, mindless pleasure-seeking animals.Fren, you've got some colossal amount of reading to do. I also have a suspicion that your opinions on history are entirely based off of modern revisionist literature written by 'scientists' who at the same time agree that women have penises. These retards aren't worth their salt.> te that you believe this solely because some morons who believed this supported the NSDAPI don't 'believe' it, I based it on the fact that fascism followed after the establishment of the Republic of Weimar. Taking Platon's Republic into consideration, tyranny follows after democracy.> Not elites are are exempt from this as all see the same things and take part in the same discussion. In fact, statesmen are the greatest victims of this as their positions are secured based on how they can appease the mass (Plato also says this). We are at the mercy of the gods.Now you're just avoiding the question at hand, and you still haven't explained your 'ideal' fascism. All you've done is make me all the more inclined to a supposition I have held for a long time, that the word has no inherent meaning to itself other than 'dictator gets all power'.> But I'm not sure what you think feudalism is.A state where a land-owning, armed social class holds most of the political power.
>>25404057>you've got some colossal amount of reading to do.Nta, but good recs to get started?
>>25398178haha intellectuals
>>25404067Have you ever read Cleopatra or Cassandra or any books of the kind? The author selects some well-known event, he then adapts it to his purpose, adorns it with details of his own invention, with people who never existed, with imaginary portraits; thus he piles fiction on fiction to lend a charm to his story. I see little difference between such romances and your histories, unless it is that the novelist draws more on his own imagination, while the historian slavishly copies what another has imagined; I will also admit, if you please, that the novelist has some moral purpose good or bad, about which the historian scarcely concerns himself.The worst historians for a youth are those who give their opinions. Facts! Facts! and let him decide for himself; this is how he will learn to know mankind. If he is always directed by the opinion of the author, he is only seeing through the eyes of another person, and when those ayes are no longer at his disposal he can see nothing.I leave modern history on one side, not only because it has no character and all our people are alike, but because our historians, wholly taken up with effect, think of nothing but highly coloured portraits, which often represent nothing. [Footnote: Take, for instance, Guicciardini, Streda, Solis, Machiavelli, and sometimes even De Thou himself. Vertot is almost the only one who knows how to describe without giving fancy portraits.] The old historians generally give fewer portraits and bring more intelligence and common-sense to their judgments; but even among them there is plenty of scope for choice, and you must not begin with the wisest but with the simplest. I would not put Polybius or Sallust into the hands of a youth; Tacitus is the author of the old, young men cannot understand him; you must learn to see in human actions the simplest features of the heart of man before you try to sound its depths. You must be able to read facts clearly before you begin to study maxims. Philosophy in the form of maxims is only fit for the experienced. Youth should never deal with the general, all its teaching should deal with individual instances.To my mind Thucydides is the true model of historians.
>>25404121Cont (1)The excellence of Plutarch consists in these very details which we are no longer permitted to describe. With inimitable grace he paints the great man in little things; and he is so happy in the choice of his instances that a word, a smile, a gesture, will often suffice to indicate the nature of his hero. With a jest Hannibal cheers his frightened soldiers, and leads them laughing to the battle which will lay Italy at his feet; Agesilaus riding on a stick makes me love the conqueror of the great king; Caesar passing through a poor village and chatting with his friends unconsciously betrays the traitor who professed that he only wished to be Pompey’s equal. Alexander swallows a draught without a word—it is the finest moment in his life; Aristides writes his own name on the shell and so justifies his title; Philopoemen, his mantle laid aside, chops firewood in the kitchen of his host. This is the true art of portraiture. Our disposition does not show itself in our features, nor our character in our great deeds; it is trifles that show what we really are. What is done in public is either too commonplace or too artificial, and our modern authors are almost too grand to tell us anything else.M. de Turenne was undoubtedly one of the greatest men of the last century. They have had the courage to make his life interesting by the little details which make us know and love him; but how many details have they felt obliged to omit which might have made us know and love him better still? I will only quote one which I have on good authority, one which Plutarch would never have omitted, and one which Ramsai would never have inserted had he been acquainted with it.On a hot summer’s day Viscount Turenne in a little white vest and nightcap was standing at the window of his antechamber; one of his men came up and, misled by the dress, took him for one of the kitchen lads whom he knew. He crept up behind him and smacked him with no light hand. The man he struck turned round hastily. The valet saw it was his master and trembled at the sight of his face. He fell on his knees in desperation. “Sir, I thought it was George.” “Well, even if it was George,” exclaimed Turenne rubbing the injured part, “you need not have struck so hard.” You do not dare to say this, you miserable writers! Remain for ever without humanity and without feeling; steel your hard hearts in your vile propriety, make yourselves contemptible through your high-mightiness. But as for you, dear youth, when you read this anecdote, when you are touched by all the kindliness displayed even on the impulse of the moment, read also the littleness of this great man when it was a question of his name and birth. Remember it was this very Turenne who always professed to yield precedence to his nephew, so that all men might see that this child was the head of a royal house. Look on this picture and on that, love nature, despise popular prejudice, and know the man as he was.
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>>25404124Cont (3)Great men are under no illusion with respect to their superiority; they see it and know it, but they are none the less modest. The more they have, the better they know what they lack. They are less vain of their superiority over us than ashamed by the consciousness of their weakness, and among the good things they really possess, they are too wise to pride themselves on a gift which is none of their getting.There is, moreover, a certain simplicity of taste which goes straight to the heart; and this is only to be found in the classics. In oratory, poetry, and every kind of literature, Emile will find the classical authors as he found them in history, full of matter and sober in their judgment. The authors of our own time, on the contrary, say little and talk much. To take their judgment as our constant law is not the way to form our own judgment. These differences of taste make themselves felt in all that is left of classical times and even on their tombs. Our monuments are covered with praises, theirs recorded facts. “Sta, viator; heroem calcas.” If I had found this epitaph on an ancient monument, I should at once have guessed it was modern; for there is nothing so common among us as heroes, but among the ancients they were rare. Instead of saying a man was a hero, they would have said what he had done to gain that name. With the epitaph of this hero compare that of the effeminate Sardanapalus— “Tarsus and Anchiales I built in a day, and now I am dead.” Which do you think says most? Our inflated monumental style is only fit to trumpet forth the praises of pygmies. The ancients showed men as they were, and it was plain that they were men indeed. Xenophon did honour to the memory of some warriors who were slain by treason during the retreat of the Ten Thousand. “They died,” said he, “without stain in war and in love.” That is all, but think how full was the heart of the author of this short and simple elegy. Woe to him who fails to perceive its charm. The following words were engraved on a tomb at Thermopylae—“Go, Traveller, tell Sparta that here we fell in obedience to her laws.”It is pretty clear that this was not the work of the Academy of Inscriptions.
>>25404082I got to get off this board.
>>25404163Cont (4) Oh, if we could thus trace out the unreasonableness of vice, how often should we find that, when it has attained its object, it discovers it is not what it seemed! Why is there this cruel haste to corrupt innocence, to make, a victim of a young creature whom we ought to protect, one who is dragged by this first false step into a gulf of misery from which only death can release her? Brutality, vanity, folly, error, and nothing more. This pleasure itself is unnatural; it rests on popular opinion, and popular opinion at its worst, since it depends on scorn of self. He who knows he is the basest of men fears comparison with others, and would be the first that he may be less hateful. See if those who are most greedy in pursuit of such fancied pleasures are ever attractive young men—men worthy of pleasing, men who might have some excuse if they were hard to please. Not so; any one with good looks, merit, and feeling has little fear of his mistress’ experience; with well-placed confidence he says to her, “You know what pleasure is, what is that to me? my heart assures me that this is not so.”But an aged satyr, worn out with debauchery, with no charm, no consideration, no thought for any but himself, with no shred of honour, incapable and unworthy of finding favour in the eyes of any woman who knows anything of men deserving of love, expects to make up for all this with an innocent girl by trading on her inexperience and stirring her emotions for the first time. His last hope is to find favour as a novelty; no doubt this is the secret motive of this desire; but he is mistaken, the horror he excites is just as natural as the desires he wishes to arouse. He is also mistaken in his foolish attempt; that very nature takes care to assert her rights; every girl who sells herself is no longer a maid; she has given herself to the man of her choice, and she is making the very comparison he dreads. The pleasure purchased is imaginary, but none the less hateful.Ohh-Oohh, fuck-you-all, you-worthless-fucks, I am going to rebell aga-inst this- unlu-uck.
>>25404121>>25404124>>25404163So..start with the Greeks. Ree.
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