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Alright, I'm actually going to ask for opinions and probably regret it.

I've got a decently chunky manuscript, a good 90k words.

My MC has had his initial journey with random episodic adventures and also a few substantial enemies and obstacles that were all versions of the question "Who is MC, what does he believe in, how does he act on his beliefs in practice?"

Now I've got MC coming up to the first major goal in his journey. A specific place, basically ancient ruins, where he will get a macguffin. His master gave him a special method to get into the place properly.

Currently, my wip notes say there are two routes to the place.

Route A, the short and proper one, and Route B, the much longer one that was made because Route A has a ton of security shit actively trying to kill anyone who isn't supposed to be there.

He arrives at a town at the base of this mountain, and encounters there a guy that is an obvious expy of Judge Holden. But this is a cultivation novel, and so Judge Holden is a chucklefuck nobody demonic cultivator, one out of ten billion.

NotHolden is doing an act of a beneficent lord cultivator helping the townsfolk with their "people be fucking disappearing yo" problem. The villagers don't know this. They're retarded mortals and mistake an aura of malice for a generic cultivator aura.

MC decides not to confront Not-Holden for now and goes to handle his mountain shit. He finds a ton of brutalized corpses and various evidence that someone has been kidnapping and throwing people into the security grid to try and overwhelm it by brute force. One victim survived by crawling into an autosurgeon and being made into a fucked up frankensteined failure of a cyborg-cultivator. This guy has a powerful body, but he can't access the vast majority of its strength and abilities by himself, so MC uses his new macguffin to graft special control stuff onto the guy so he can help him by remotely controlling the parts cyborg guy can't control.

Obviously it's not-holden trying to get in. MC gets his macguffin and is at the ruins, and now not-holden is also approaching by Route B.

Yaddayadda yadda there's a confrontation, MC refuses the engage with not-holden's sophistry and kills him, then moves on with his new "morally justifiable human puppet" and a newly reaffirmed conviction.

So there's what I have.

But I've been stewing on this for so long that I kind of just want to toss it and gloss over the macguffin acquisition entirely, and instead move onto the next map.

>>25397084
>Everyone! It has been officially confirmed by anons mother that Amazon does not care about ai
Glad to hear. A massive weight has been lifted off my shoulders

>actual substantial post trying to workshop writing
uh oh newfag alert

>>25397131
If it were one-to-two books I wouldn't have even brought it up but she's put like 30 of the fucking things on and makes like $200/mo off of them. That's substantial enough you'd think Amazon would at least take a look.

>>25397125
you must be mistaken, this is the webnovel general, not the writing general

>>25397155
Sir, I write xianxiaslop.

>>25397125
Ysk your post was so dry, long and boring I dropped it after the first few paragraphs, chances are id do the same with your wn

retards, AI isn't even against KDP policies. they literally let you select a box that says "this was generated by AI" and then it goes up like normal
its amazon. they care about money. that's fucking it

>make a tiktok account for the sole purpose of advertising my webnovel
>get shadowbanned
My videos get zero views. Which is insane. The good thing about tiktok is that they show your video to at least 300 people even if it gets zero engagement. A few months ago I saw some faggot on tiktok uploading AI generated photos to advertise his webnovel, and he was just uploading the same shit ad infinitum. I'm so fucking sick of algorithms.

>>25397125
I couldnt even read your summary. Did you have a question or something?

I think I'm gonna write a futa WN and become the presiding monarch of ScribbleHub
Will anons support me

>>25397131
Half of all new ebooks on Amazon are AI.
Think about that. You buy an ebook from 2025 or 2026 there's a 50% chance it was written by Claude or GPT.

>>25397181
>You buy an ebook from 2025 or 2026 there's a 50% chance it was written by Claude or GPT.
statistics gore
this assume you randomly select a book to read. the vast majority are spam with 0 ratings, not shit people would actually click, much less you or me or anon would click

>>25397160
do i have my mc aurafarm on and kill judge holden or not

What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?

>>25397180
of course anon, i'll be rooting for you from my slow burn momcest fantasy romance

>>25397208
Kill. Alright anon, I'll go through with the original plan of killing an obvious stand-in for judge holden as a filler villain.

>>25397207
This seems like too low level of an enemy to be a Holden. I suggest you either make him a minor member of the sect that notHolden runs or there is a confrontation and an escape which sets up a long time rivalry with this guy that continues long into the story until he eventually meets a satisfying death.

>>25397225
I kind of don't want a Holden as a persistent long-term villain because I don't actually want to write Holden.

The main reason I want to use him as a fodder villain is that he's not unique in xianxia. He's a stereotypical demonic cultivator that justifies himself with sophistry, hollow philosophy, muh stronk muh war inevitable etc.

I need a villain to appeal to me personally to be able to write them for a long time. Like a villain has to be cool in some way to me. Holden is just revolting. Good only to be used as a punching bag for a little bit.

>>25397225
>>25397228

But I suppose I could have notHolden only show up for confrontations and only write him from MC's POV which would make it much easier and probably viable.

>>25397228
Righteous and demonic doesn't really mean much, it's all about benefits, if your character can make a deal with Holden then why would he kill him (at least during the period of cooperation) ?

>>25397240
Because I'm a pretentious fuck who wants to reconstruct what others deconstruct. My MC is an actual legit righteous young master.

>>25397245
>My MC is an actual legit righteous young master.
Then you aren't really writing xianxia. It's fine but just call it fantasy with eastern elements.

>>25397260
retard

>>25397262
Rude.

>>25397260
By your logic, Regressor's Tale of Cultivation is also not xianxia. Which is stupid. My MC has now multiple times done things that actively make shit harder for him because something or someone offended the morality that formed from his own moral compass combining with what his master hammered into his head. He's like some old monster's attempt to create a fictional archetype in real life.

I've read a fair few other works where the MC is explicitly morally good, even if they're not outright "hm this is wrong i better expend my resources to make it right" types. My MC isn't really either, he's just conceited and self-righteous, and he happened to get groomed by his master into an actual righteous mentality.

>>25397262
As a xianxia hater, he's right.
If you're spitting on xianxia and instead veering to western morals, advertise it.

Sky Pride is not xianxia

>>25397269
I'm not spitting on xianxia. Plenty of regular chinese xianxia has morally upright protagonists.

Stop pretending RI is the dictator of what xianxia is. By your own standard it's barely even actual xianxia with how much it diverges.

god you retards are so irony poisoned reddit would think you're their friends
none of you niggers has read Water Margin or Sword Immortals of Mt. Shu

Way of Choices, Coiling Dragon, Desolate Era, 40k Years of Cultivation... None of you read.

>>25397274
I called myself a xianxia hater and you think I'm the RI tard?
This whole thread is retarded

>>25397267
>he happened to get groomed by his master into....
That is not a desirable trait in a character, at least not in xianxia. Cultivation is a solitary journey and if a character can't think for themselves and instead their personality is a product and an extension of their masters personality then such cultivator will not amount to much.

I miss when this thread was mostly for English works

>>25397289
Ah yes, in xianxia the main character doesn't get raised by a master ever, and also never gets influenced by a master, Tales of Herding Gods doesn't exist.

Look buddy you can argue and make up no true scotsman arguments all you want but I've been consuming xianxia longer than you guaranteed. Masters are often used early on to give the mc initial direction and serve as motivation when killed usually. A prominent master figure doesn't matter, especially if they're not particularly present in the story (which is the default because in xianxia you travel a bunch duh)

Here's my idea for a story:
>MC gets isekai'd to a cultivation world
>MC cultivates and becomes strong

>>25397302
sounds good write it
and don't have your MC fighting literal shit monsters in qi gathering for 100k words (this is a real novel that i once read no joke, fucking westoids)

>>25397289
>>25397296
also to be a bit more clear I mean that he came to his master as a child and was therefore raised (and groomed) by his master
in the same way any child is groomed into their parents' beliefs, i think using the term groomed made it sound too intentionally indotrination-y
i mean it more like "the old man taught him morality, and the young man now acts moral in an immoral world"

that is all i sleep now

>>25397296
Your novel sounds like western novel with eastern elements or a wuxia novel at best. Xianxia main focus is cultivation and the Dao and you seem to care more about drama, human relationships, morality etc.

>>25397309
I posted it as a joke, but I actually cannot think of any cultivation story where the MC cultivates to become strong at first. The MC always gets some kind of lucky break at the start.

>>25397316
I mostly care about technical autism and cultivation autism actually but I don't have any doubts about how to write those so I have no reason to ask here about them

>>25397319
>>25397319
retard

>>25397336
drater

>>25397338
you're talking to the RI tard and managed to call someone else RI tard while doing so
you are stupid as shit

>>25397349
i am not the mucho texto holden guy
and i can't tell who is who in this thread anyway
i just poast garbage for fun

>>25397351
>poast
kill yourself

>>25397372
not him but what is with certain autists sperging out over word choice? is it one guy?

Favorite "Transmigrated into book/game" wn's? Are the villain ones any decent?

you glow

>>25397416
I've never thought of these two as being the same. Somehow I've never liked "transmigrated into a book" but I've liked multiple "transmigrated into a game." My favorite is Jackal Among Snakes.

Getting drawn into an argument with RI tard is a loss by itself. Do better next time and avoid replying to him.

>>25397480
Will check it out, those setups with being put in the place of a minor villain or whatever just seem to really appeal to me rn if you got any more reccs lmk

If one were to write a cultivation parody what would the outline look like?

>>25397493
BOC

>>25397290
You mean the last thread when they were seeting about tropes existing, arguing about Amazon smut and the definition of murderhobo?

>>25397316
>Dao
>not human relationships, morality
Often high level breakthroughs are made by the MC learning something about humanity which gives them insight into the Dao. This is done through having them do things like live as a mortal worker for 20 years or whatever.

>>25397506
make one post without a misspelled word please
it's every time dude

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>>25397208
>What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?
kek

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>>25397543
How about you engage with what he said in the post instead of hyper fixating on something so inconsequential.

>>25397553
it's not inconsequential if it's every post
>engage with the content
no. there's nothing there, it's thread-based personality drama. kys

Scribblehub has the tags matriarchy and misandry. There are stories that unironically use them. There are no patriarchy or misogyny tags though.
Why are western companies and websites like this?

>>25397562
RI was banned by the government
no web novel has been banned by government in the west
west is more open

>>25396877
it's shit, sort the reviews by most upvotes for more details

My main character will be a cute, flat chested 19 year old girl that fails at romance and has superpowers with highly questionable use cases at first but she develops them to have more practical applications over time to become a true superhero

Also, she's 5 ft tall and has height insecurity

Also she has a 30cm dick that can shoot out 20ml of semen at 50m/s.

Also she'll have snarky floating cat companion that doubles as a fleshlight

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Am I missing something?

>>25397788
a brain

>>25397562
>Why are western companies and websites like this?
Male writers are more likely to acknowledge discrimination against men in their stories than discrimination against women.

Also, I'm pretty sure Scribble Hub stole their tags list from someone else cause "Black Belly" is one of the fucking tags and I have literally never seen that shit outside of eastern sites/translation sites, so blaming this shit on "the west" comes across as a bit silly.

>>25397800
Scribblehub and novelupdates are ran by the same people, I'm 99% sure. Just compare them and they're pretty much identical and nu links directly to scribblehub

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>hmm this seems popular, let's give it a try
>concept is interesting
>prose is a little clunky but there must be something to it with how quickly it got popular
>jesus this prose is AWFUL, who can even read this shit? Why is it so popular?
>check author
>it's mecanimus
this has happened like 4 times now

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>>25397208
Consult the NTR spirit.

>>25397767
if I were writing it, her dick would be at least 45cm. maybe even 50.

I'm posting on royalroad and scribblehub. Should I also crosspost on wattpad?

I was actually sort of suprised when my story did much better on ScribbleHub than RoyalRoad.

>>25397852
>concept is interesting
>hmm this seems popular, let's give it a try
>Why is it so popular?
The world must be so mysterious in the eyes of the lambs

>>25397921
smut or weeb does better on Scribblehub

>>25397921
>scribblehub
>even the top trending story has only 23 ratings after almost 200 chapters
holy shit it's even more dead than it was 10 years ago

>>25397945
Are RR and Amazon KU the only serious options for (webnovel) writers?

>write entire 3000 worda chapter
>proofread it myselr several times
>still reads like trash
>reluctantly use AI to proofread
>its suggestions are amazing
>chapter is perfect now
How do you resist the temptation to use AI? It is so amazing and us humans are so limited...

>>25397989
use more primitive spell/grammar checking tools

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damn, should have finished my fairycore earlier

>>25397989
>worda
>myselr
cmon man, you could do basic proofreading on your own posts here before you press submit for practice

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:-O!

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>>25397989
It's easy. AI suggestions are shit.

>>25398016
Yes anon, this was originally a royalroad webnovel.

>>25398020
I gave it 1 star.

>>25398012
>>25398016
>>25398020
how does this site feel about only being used as a launch pad to monetizing your work elsewhere

>>25397977
RR then patreon.

>>25398021
I don't like the system but some of the writing is nice and the dialogue is mostly amusing. I feel like the character Jez is too 'deep' for a generic progression fantasy story lol

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I think there is nothing wrong with using AI as a spellchecker/proofreader.
It's honestly probably the best use for it.

>>25397989
I mean it's probably great when you're an ESL who can't rotate shapes in your head, but for most people who actually fucking READ BOOKS in the relevant language you don't need that kind of handicap.

>>25398023
They get ad deals out of it.

>>25398039
Gonna save you from needing AI as a spellcheck:
https://writewithharper.com/editor

>>25398039
why use AI to spell check when there's already a spell check built into the fucking word processor?

>writing webnovel
>have a scene where one of the protagonists (a fourteen-year-old boy) is seduced into bed and drugged by a femme fatale assassin character
>no mention of genitals or anything, just talks about her unbuttoning his shirt and running her nails up and down his chest
>chapter ends with him passing out as the assassin smiles down at him
>show it to someone in my writing group
>they get super mad and say it’s pedophilia, date rape, non-consensual sex, etc etc and that I’m “fetishizing” it
>which I am, because something similar happened to me when I was a boy and it fucked up my preferences in women for life
>she says that I can’t put this out on RR
What the fuck. GRRM starts off his super popular fantasy book with his fetish, fourteen-year-old Daenerys getting raped up the butt by a Mongol warlord. Compared to that this is literally nothing.

>>25398072
The book started with Bran getting kicked out of a multi-story building because he got the king's children FUCKING (incestually) which is just as stupid for normalfags to eat up.

>>25398072
>>25398075
GRRM wrote that before it became taboo even in fiction

>>25398078
>taboo
I think it's stupid and uninspired but normalfags eat all flavors of shit.

>>25398072
>>which I am
have you tried not being a weirdo?

>>25398072
>show it to someone
>they
>she
Child molestation is a sore spot to trannies and furfags, since they tend to have personal experience and can't tell the difference between reality and fiction, but yeah, you can't post that on RR

>>25397945
The actual top story does have 14 million views over 540 chapters though. Even the latest chapter on it has 78 comments and 3.5k views. The chapter before that got 12.9k views and 118 comments (2 weeks earlier).

Most stories on scribblehub are pretty bad. Often they will have like 20 chapters and then the author drops the story. That makes me not want to really check out the trending tab.

>>25397945
the trending tab isn't whats popular there
its the same on RR for that matter

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>>25398066
>misspell led as lead
Now what, retard?

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>>25398072
Have you tried not giving a shit what some retarded foid has to say about anything?

>have a neat idea for a setting
>don't have an actual plot to go with it
damnit

>>25398167
Take the plot of another story and put it into your setting. Or pick up a generic plot and do that. Then change details here and there based on your setting.

At least that's my plan.

Somebody in my writing group said he wants to see the first two chapters of my book what should I do?

>>25398195
kill him

>>25398197
Spectral Soul?

>>25398072
>>she says that I can’t put this out on RR
Which is nonsense. There is/was a xianxia on RR where the male lead spends all his free time since he was ~10 in the brothel because he is a wastrel young master or some shit. Path of Ascension has parents grooming their teenagers to fuck around casually to avoid getting too attached because of grindmonkey autism.

>>25398167
that means you're afraid to challenge/change/break it

>>25398200
>Path of Ascension has parents grooming their teenagers to fuck around casually to avoid getting too attached because of grindmonkey autism.
The irony here is that the story lectures the readers that when pets achieve human form (at 100+ years of age) they need to be separated from their owner for a decade to avoid grooming. This is painted as the government very much caring about peoples' rights.

The same story started with MC being kicked out of an orphanage at the age of 14 because the government couldn't afford the cost. MC then worked at a shady bar for a year on basically an indentured servitude contract.

What is my takeaway supposed to be from this? That the super good government cares more about pets that humans get as dungeon rewards than about human kids? Because the story sure as hell is trying to paint the government as the good guys. Or an I supposed to just think the worldbuilding sucks?

Either way, the story trying to lecture me about it made me drop it.

>>25398072
>>which I am, because something similar happened to me when I was a boy and it fucked up my preferences in women for life
>>she says that I can’t put this out on RR
Tell her about this award winning novel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogg_(novel)
Anyways I know your experience, anon, I understand you because I've been through it. There's a very innate aversion in some people to recognizing this shit happens outside of juvenile fantasy.

>>25398198
What kind of dumbass name is that anyway? Mr Soul-like Soul!

>>25398294
Spectral Soul Demon Venerable was a Rank 9 Gu Immortal (Demon Venerable) from the Late Antiquity Era and the founder of soul path.

He was the number one soul path cultivator and renowned in the entire world's history as the cruelest and bloodthirsty of all the venerables. During his dark era, he made the five regions into his personal slaughterhouse. All living beings were his livestock, they had no way to resist. With all those poor souls he elevated soul foundation to an unprecedented level, turning from ethereal to material. The Spectral Soul Demon Venerable is the founder of the Shadow Sect and the most active resister of the Heaven's Will.

>>25398276
>What is my takeaway supposed to be from this? That the super good government cares more about pets that humans get as dungeon rewards than about human kids? Because the story sure as hell is trying to paint the government as the good guys. Or an I supposed to just think the worldbuilding sucks?
The local government is bad but the galactic government is good. Mostly. When you get to know them on a personal level.

If the protagonist hadn't stumbled across the emperor's goddaughter he'd have been pretty comprehensively fucked, I would think.

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>>25398276
don;t think too much about it

>>25398307
>The local government is bad but the galactic government is good. Mostly. When you get to know them on a personal level.
He got on the path because some government AI picked up MC's talent and sent two experienced adventurers to assess him. They gave him a recommendation to be put on the Path.

BUT this means that the (non-local) government actually knew he was kicked out of the orphanage and that as a 14 year old he was working 10 hour shifts 6 to 7 days per week in a bar.
>If the protagonist hadn't stumbled across the emperor's goddaughter he'd have been pretty comprehensively fucked, I would think.
I don't know because I stopped reading after she lectured the MC about the pet thing and that MC took it all at face value.

Woohoo! New chapter of Saving the School.

Too bad it's not a harem series, because I want both Lily and Mia to win.

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Straightforward xianxia, but MC is specifically an armor user. Thoughts?
I'd pour out my real actual armor autism at the start, how armor doesn't really impede your movement when properly fitted, and so on.
I'm still not sure how I would handle it in-system. And whether to make the path "unorthodox but theoretically viable" or "what is this retard doing" or "I heard of this in the far lands, but here... What is he doing?"

I feel like this would be a nice hook without straying too far from the foundations of cultivationslop (affectionate)

call it something like THE IRONCLAD IMMORTAL

>>25398398
image source is Exoskull Zero

>>25398294
You are an eyesore. Kill!

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I use DeepSeek for slight editing. Please don't kill me.

>>25398636
We don't have to anon you've killed yourself.

You can test it yourself with an llm by picking a chapter from a story you like.
> 1. Create a story plan based on the chapter
> 2. Recreate chapter based on story plan
> 3. Evaluate what is missing in recreated vs original
> 4. Create new improved plan including missing details
> Loop 2-4 until no more changes needed.

The result was the chapter plan was as long as the original chapter. The recreated chapter was very close to the original but it contained common ai slop phases all over the place.

The evaluation step was fine, and the most useful but if you actually have it perform edits it has a high likelihood of injecting ai trash into your work. And with smaller models it could evaluate fine but struggled to generate the actual text based on it's own suggestions.

>Get a great review
>They call out a major upcoming plot twist in the same review
>He didn't even get to the chapters where I started really foreshadowing it
I can't tell if this is the mark of me being a good or really bad writer. Thankfully there's a lot more to it than what he called out, so the surprise won't be completely lost for him. But that still startled me!

>>25398016
Holy fuck the new layout looks like ass.
I rue the day they're going to force me to switch.

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>>25398751
Smart reader vs shit writer.

Smart readers will pick out foreshadowing. Shit writers will telegraph the entire plot.

Now, it's entirely acceptable to have the plot and twists be predictable. When you draw all logical conclusions from information available, your available pool of options is limited.

The greatest fucking sin a writer could do is set up an obvious twist as if it were the most shocking thing ever with characters completely baffled (if they're not meant to be idiots) despite having the same information as the reader. You should always err on the side of characters having better intuition than the reader, because that's what makes plot twists interesting.

The second greatest sin is setting up endless foreshadowing only for it to be something mundane or pointless. Your readers will never trust you after something like that. Always misdirect, never lie. The explosion on the ship WAS sabotage, but it was not the obvious spy, it was the MC's love interest.

Or even better, the ship didn't explode - MC had a bad feeling and caught his love interest with a bomb in the cargo hold.

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>RR Writer's Guild discord basically got couped because some subhuman trannoid threw a sperg melty over a guy being le heckin unwholesome chungus bigot outside of the discord server
>And the mods reasonably smacked the troonoid's head with the ban hammer
>this somehow led to the creator of the server being "timed out"
I want these niggerfaggots dead inshallah

>>25398809
I'm so glad I don't participate in discords.

>>25398804
I'm hoping it's mostly "Smart reader," I'm not gonna call myself Mark Twain, but I've seeded a couple tiny hints in the beginning and otherwise kept it vague until more recently (Since I planned on popping the cork soon even before that review came out). I don't think I was basically yelling "IT WAS HIS SLED! IT WAS HIS FUCKING SLED!" early on or anything.

>>25398706
not him but I use claude for identifying tricky grammar stuff (like dangling modifiers)
I also use it for untangling dense sentences in something smoother to read
its a useful tool just dont give it free rein . letting it throw in slop phrases is user error

>>25398813
Like I said, it's possible you just left the only possible conclusion as convergence of lines. The reader not being able to predict the plot at all can be bad, unless you're specifically writing some schizophrenic shit.
Let's be real, most of us aren't. The actual schizo genre is out of my grasp.
Moreover, when the reader is right, that's usually a pretty good feeling for them.

>>25398390
Your posts are going to make me actually start reading that series. Has it stubbed yet, or will it be stubbing soon?

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>>25398815
>for identifying tricky grammar stuff (like dangling modifiers)
Anon you're outing yourself, IQ wise.
Please learn how language works.

>>25398817
That's actually a pretty reassuring insight, thank you anon. I'm always dreading I'm on the wrong side of line between reader understanding and writer overexplaining. As much as there are fundamentals to writing, there's no exact choreography to it so I panic about msisteps all the time.

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>burn out on editing
>go full goblin mode bed rotting (not really) hiki neet and mute all my notifications and message apps and silence my phone
>wrote six chapters in the last three days
Oh yeah. I'm so back. And I'm ghosting people I care about and missing big deadlines but I feel GREAT.
Starting Tuesday I'll be detoxing caffeine and by the end of the week I'll be a normal human being again. Just, a human being with unanswered messages and missed deadlines.

>>25398826
Even professional editors miss dangling modifiers
You're just outing yourself as a crusader, not someone with a real argument

>>25398841
>Even professional editors
Today? Anon, that's an extremely low bar. A dangling modifier should NEVER be missed by a properly educated person with a triple digit IQ, or by even an uneducated person with a 120+IQ.

You have to be illiterate, literally unable to parse a sentence, not to immediately notice a dangling modifier. Language is NOT that complicated.

If AI is helpful to you, it just means you're a shitter. Same way a weak person might need a hand truck to pick up a 20kg plate, whereas a strong person would just pick it up.

>>25398846
You need to keep in mind how much material these pros have to go through every week.

>>25398846
I bet your own work has sneaky dangling modifiers inside it, lmao
I have no idea why you think humans are robots that can proofread perfectly. We can't even catch typos, stealthy modifiers in a sentence that conversationally but not semantically parses are gonna get by too
AI on the other hand IS a robot and CAN catch them almost every single time

>>25398846
>If AI is helpful to you, it just means you're a shitter.
Do you also think this way about spellcheckers? You're just hysterical, you woman

>>25398847
That's true and like with anything, there's an error rate that gets exponentially harder to reduce the closer it gets to zero.
But I'm not talking about a one in a thousand "oops that slipped through." I'm talking about retards who regularly write sentences with dangling modifiers and other errors BECAUSE they're so stupid and illiterate they're just banging words together like rocks, and then they take it to an overgrown chatbot to fix for them.

While I'm caustic about the topic of AI/LLMs, I'm not exactly worried about it. An LLM cannot generate anything good. At best it can take troglodytes and elevate them to the level of midwits, and I tend not to read midwits as it is.

I suppose my biggest concern is talented people who MIGHT grind their skill enough to eventually produce something good, who use LLMs as a crutch and never improve and never make anything good twenty years from now. But I suspect that actual ensouled people won't fall for that very much. People still draw art even with AI image generation.

>>25398865
If you have more than one typo per sentence and rely on a spell checker to make the corrections for you at the end of every chapter, I consider you subhuman. Spelling words correctly is a fundamental skill.

>>25398866
/wg/er
name your favorite web novels

>>25398870
>I use a spellchecker
>HUH?? YOU MISSPELL WORDS EVERY SENTENCE?
alright I see now there's no point talking to you.
What is it with certain topics that has them instantly having a meltie like this?

>>25398875
Nuance seems to be beyond you.

>>25398871
Never posted or browsed /wg/.
Favorite webnovels:
Azarinth Healer
Beware of Chicken
1% Lifesteal
Cat Girl Evolution
Paranoid Mage (Objects in Motion executes theme much better but I enjoyed the setting/plot/characters of Paranoid Mage more).
The Exchange Teacher
Honzuki no Gekokujou (I read most of it in moonrunes)
So I'm a Spider, So What?! (though I read the translated LN only, it's one of the all time greats of literature period)

I'm just an asshole. But I'm a NATIVE asshole.

Dangling modifiers are a low-IQ issue. If you lack the ability to abstract the meaning, you struggle with object permanence. Start doing reps of rotating shapes in your head.

>>25398822
It would surprise me if it stubbed. The author doesn't even do extra chapters on patreon.

I think it's a fun series and would read it again if I could. The name is pretty bad. The story isn't absurdist comedy like the name implies nor is it like Just Add Mana. It's actually a coherent story with an OP MC.

The MC gets sent to an enemy main undercover to save a school from a grand demon summoning. The MC isn't really trained in subterfuge, but he is powerful. He's given the identity of a noble student. The story is about him gathering information to stop the summoning, getting involved with politically powerful people, and hiding his real identity. The side characters feel fleshed out and fun.

It's probably my favorite series to read. It just sucks that the author hasn't posted much recently.

>>25398885
>I dont read midwits
>his favorites list is one of the sloppiest slop piles I've seen
huh
didn't expect that one

>>25398846
Everybody should have to learn programming. If you had ever done programming you'd know that intelligence doesn't even factor into it. People miss trivially easy things all the time. The important thing is to set up processes such that those trivial errors can be caught and fixed. AI gives you a tool to do that. (It's not perfect though.)

>>25398885
>Nuance seems to be beyond you.
Your "nuance" is constructing ridiculous strawmen like a midwit, which is very ironic given your previous ranting

>>25398894
I'll list what I like about each one. But yes I consider the authors good and unmatchable by any LLM.

>Azarinth Healer
One of my first webnovels/LitRPG with decent characterization and a fairly coherent world and growth through a system with a passable ending. Great fight scenes.
>Beware of Chicken
Great emotional payoff for characters with steady progression through the powerlevels. I'm not a big fan of cultivation but BOC is consistently entertaining on a chapter to chapter, volume to volume basis.
>1% Lifesteal
I didn't realize this was cultivation for a very long time, far too long actually. I just like the insanity and brutality of it. It has some pretty good plot twists and character suffering.
>Cat Girl Evolution
Great characterization of the MC, a weak opening arc and very weak side characters, but it keeps the story focused.
>Paranoid Mage
Well written and soothes the libertarian angst left over from when I was a teen. I would say it falls off a bit towards the end but it doesn't really, the escalation just barely keeps it consistently entertaining even when it's less being on the run and more helping society not implode entirely.
>The Exchange Teacher
Underrated gem of setting exploration and children suffering and being brutal to each other. Tons of drama written well.
>Honzuki no Gekokujou
Excellent world building and setting exploration and probably the best example ever of "reverse-cheat" isekai, where the MC is actually kind of cursed but overcomes it through willpower and clever exploitation of opportunities as they arise.
>So I'm a Spider, So What?!
The absolute pinnacle of red herrings as a literary device. Also consistently funny.

Obviously they don't match the CLASSICS in terms of quality but they're my favorite webnovels (I forgot Mushoku Tensei in the original list but I like its world building and character development.)

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>>25398899
>If you had ever done programming you'd know that intelligence doesn't even factor into it

>>25398916
Only ones I've read of these are BoC and 1% and I thought both of them were pretty meh.
Well, BoC I stopped once the chicken started decapitating people, it seemed to just be going to generic cultivation and I've gotten real bored with those.
1%, I finished the first book then got pretty bored of it as well. It also has the same problem that most of these 'muh suffering' books seem to have; that the suffering doesn't matter. Like, they torture the main character for months or whatever, break his body etc., and then he just heals back up and it's like nothing ever happened. And the torture doesn't work on him because he has plot armor. Like, they literally can't figure out how it keep him from biting his tongue off after they give him truth serum. Literally just put something in his mouth that blocks the chompers but not the tongue. Or, I don't know, remove his teeth. Takes 2 seconds to think of a solution to that problem and even with their insane house master lighting a fire under their ass to figure it out they just can't solve it. Whole book felt like that; like stuff happens not because it makes sense from the perspective of the world or the characters in it but in order to enable the plot. The beginning is exactly the same, the way the MC throws away his insane prize because he can't be bothered to take 15 seconds to do the equivalent of googling it even though he's obsessed with these powerups and should definitely know how to at least figure out how to figure out how roughly how much it is worth.
Kind of pisses me off when books do this, I really can't stand it.

I can't understand how people find AI useful for writing. I tried to use it to Red Team, and I use a very fantastical setting with no real life precedent, I'm talking "One of these combatants is capable of flight with giant wings on his back" levels of fantastical, and it clams the fuck up thinking I'm planning to shoot up a Buc-ee's.

>>25398916
>Honzuki no Gekokujou
>World building
Isn't this the one where they live in a late medieval world right around the time the printing press could be invented but somehow don't know how to make paper well enough to mass produce books

>>25397943
Epic reddit quip, but the reason it's popular is because the author has a dedicated audience. Not every story with an interesting concept shoots to the top of rising stars instantly.
Getting this smug and pretentious over a webslop discussion should probably be a sign to get a clue or stick a gun in your mouth.

>>25399113
>the reason it's popular is because the author has a dedicated audience.
>the only reason it's popular is because [the author writes stuff that consistently becomes popular]
actual 70 iq response. a complete lack of critical thinking ability

>>25398958
Have you tried asking it differently or tried using a different AI? I just tried and got this:

The alarm bells had stopped.

Celia pressed against the wall of the tanner's shop on Mill Street, gripping her husband's hand. Across the lane, Old Gerrard stood with his hunting spear, staring down the hill.

"They came through the east wall," Gerrard whispered.

She'd already seen. Dark iron armor. Faceplates hammered into snarling jaws. They poured through the gap in a silence that felt wrong—each man moving in lockstep with the others, no shouting, no orders, just a synchronized advance that didn't look human.

Captain Aldric had rallied maybe thirty guards at the secondary barricade. For a moment she'd let herself hope.

The attackers hit the shield wall with their bodies. The front rank simply threw their weight forward, and the line buckled. Then the second rank climbed over their own men and hacked down into the exposed necks of defenders who couldn't raise their shields high enough. Aldric went down with a spear through his thigh. They left him pinned to the ground and moved on.

The rout was short. The sounds that followed were brief and wet.

A shadow passed over the street.

A man descended slowly, almost lazily, from a hundred feet up. Wings spread from his back—not feathered but membranous, like a beetle's wing stretched across dark metal frames. They folded against his shoulders with a mechanical whisper, and he landed light as a cat.

Tall and lean. Darker armor than the rest. Worked into the chest plate in vivid blue was a crest she'd never forget: three vertical stripes, flared at the ends like snake tongues.

He surveyed the street the way a man might look over a market stall. His eyes passed over Gerrard. Passed over her. Stopped on a woman three doors down, trying to pull a child through a window.

"Bring her." His voice was calm. Almost polite.

Two soldiers caught the woman by the arms. Both she and the child screamed. The winged man watched with the mild interest of someone observing an insect.

"Not the child. Too small to be useful. Put it down."

Davin pulled her from the window before she saw what came next, but she heard the woman's scream drop into something lower, something that gurgled. Then the child made a sound no child should make, and she bit down on her own hand until she tasted copper.

They crawled through the tanner's workshop, past curing hides that smelled of lye and death, and found the cellar trapdoor. The space below was black and shallow. Davin pulled the door shut.

Above them: crashes, boots, and every so often that wet sound, followed by nothing.

Then singing. Low, melious chanting in a language she didn't recognize. They were singing while they burned the town. And beneath it, the winged man's voice giving orders in that same polite tone. She heard him say something that made two soldiers laugh. Heard him say the word "harvest" the way a man might say it while swirling wine.

>>25399175
>felt wrong—each man moving in lockstep with the others, no shouting, no orders, just a
Literally a blatant ai-ism in the fourth sentence

>>25399180
Yeah, but he was saying he couldn't get the AI to give him anything because of safety stuff. I had no problem getting AI to write about a town being slaughtered.

>>25399175
this is shit
never have ai write for you.
it is fantastic at context-aware proofreading however

>>25399187
It's better than your writing until proven otherwise

>>25399205
it's better than yours too, hysterical woman

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>>25399175
>She'd already seen. Dark iron armor. Faceplates hammered into snarling jaws.
>Wings spread from his back—not feathered but membranous, like a beetle's wing stretched across dark metal frames
>Tall and lean. Darker armor than the rest. Worked into the chest plate in vivid blue was a crest...
>Above them: crashes, boots, and every so often that wet sound, followed by nothing. Then singing. Low, melious chanting in a language she didn't recognize.
This is so obviously AI. The fact you can't tell immediately verifies that you don't read very much, or at all.

>>25399227
read >>25399186

>>25399227
>This is so obviously AI. The fact you can't tell immediately verifies that you don't read very much, or at all.
Is this bait? The top of the post says it's AI.
>>25399216
>it's better than yours too
Perhaps
>hysterical woman
I wish

>>25398941
Being upset with the 1% Lifesteal MC - Freddy's - suffering is part of the appeal I think. Because it makes his eventual triumph and the downfall of his enemies that much more satisfying. But it's not for everybody. I still like it, and I certainly don't think and LLM or even a retard with LLM assistance could produce something like that.

If you think the plot contrivances are dumb that's fair, but such complaints can be directed at literally any work of fiction.

>>25399067
>Isn't this the one where they live in a late medieval world right around the time the printing press could be invented but somehow don't know how to make paper well enough to mass produce books
Not quite, that's a bit of a red herring. The entire society/world is way more fantasy than that.
Part of the beauty of Honzuki is that while Myne grows past her early humble beginnings of trying to make paper, she keeps up the pattern of problem solving she develops and her relationship with her family remains a driving force right to the end. The Bookworm truly Ascends and yet remains a bookworm. It ties together nicely.

>>25399205
This is a common reverse-centaur defense. Retards cannot imagine anyone smarter than them. They literally cannot conceptualize it. So they suddenly find themselves succeeding and imagine that they were smart all along, they just needed the right tool. Thus they become a pilot for a machine they don't understand and have no real input into what the machine does: because they don't understand anything that's going on. But they're in the pilot seat, so they think they're calling the shots. It's similar to what Taleb describes in Fooled by Randomness.

>>25399227
>The fact you can't tell immediately verifies that you don't read very much, or at all.
This is the sad truth of the "durr I can just AI-gen a book as good as yours, I should be in your club" crowd. They don't read. They don't even read. They don't read so much they wouldn't even read their own writing if they did write anything. They just want the social clout and attention of being an author.

It's so pathetic I can't even get mad about it. Not really. Such peons are entirely beneath my gaze. The kind of people "waste of space" was coined to describe. Except now they don't just waste physical space, they flood digital spaces with garbage, too.

>>25399232
>Perhaps
you really think ai slop might be better than your writing? wtf

Is K-Man still alive?

>>25399258
even he was smart enough to leave by now

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>>25399232
>Is this bait?
This post is supposedly showing the utility of AI, but what use is it if the output is garbage?

why is ai discourse so utterly retarded on both sides of the aisle?

>>25399175
That's prose. I don't WANT prose, I can do that myself. I wanted a Red Team evaluation!

>>25399280
You didn't really give enough details to do that.
You can just tell it that you're playing D&D and ask what it would try to do in that situation. That being said, AI is not some tactical genius. There's a good chance it will suggest something stupid.
>>25399243
It's possible. I'm not so obviously better at it that it's easy to tell that my writing is better.

>>25399271
Because the only ones that care about it are either Indians that think it's Vishnu reborn to usher in the new post human age or blue hairs that think it's Literally Hitler because they can't sell scribbles for $1000 anymore after being bugged for 2 years (except when they use it to goon to their AI boyfriends, then it's okay)

>30 readers on royalroad
>40 readers on scribblehub
I'm gonna make it, guys.

every time i try to do typography i come closer to just using a plain gemini generated sloppa image
even aigen typography is obnoxious

>lost a reader on spacebattles from 7 to 6
ouch...

>>25398916
I love AoaB as much as the next guy, and though much of the worldbuilding is great both in the abstract and in the large scheme of things, most of the "real life" day-to-day stuff is either stupid, or requires everyone except Myne to be stupid. From people being physically incapable of cooking anything good, interduchy diplomacy mostly depending on tweens, to retarded mana compression when it's literally their most valuable resources. I could go on.

>So I'm a Spider, So What?!
It would have been great had the last two volumes, and ultimately, the ending, not been utter dogshit. The whole gang reunites after 16 years and instead of a climax, or anything remotely funny that could have spawned from the absurdity of the situation, it's just awkward and unfunny.

>100+ readers but all but 3~ actually interact with me
I know I shouldn't be complaining if others are glad about single digits, but man.

>>25399431
*DON'T interact with me
Time for caffeine.

>>25399431
You don't want to interact with your readers. They'll only try to manipulate you to change your story to how they want it and get upset if you don't bend

>>25399436
I write for the intellectual elite so they are getting the story they are getting.

>>25399440
>I'm writing for an audience that doesn't exist
Many such cases

>>25399436
In fact, never have readers in the first place. They'll only ruin the purity of the vision.

Any off the beaten path cultivation stories that are not so completely insane and bugman pilled without being utterly westernised? Cultivator goes on adventures, doesn't have a harem or faceslap or even a love interest, doesn't use his immortal ghost scorpion to kill all his opponents, etc?

>>25399258
He's just a shill, anon. He only pops in when he wants to advertise and maybe stroke his ego.

>>25399519
Why bother?

Someone must have been playing with their monkey paw while cursing all the archmage slop, there now seems to be a steady influx of Naruto fanfiction in rising stars.

What are gu?

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>>25399628
I think webnovels are a dying medium.
I need to pick up actual art skills. Not necessarily drawing, just art.

>>25399669
Writing is art you donkey.

>>25399688
Any smelly favela gorilla can "write", and any hindoo terrorist armed with an LLM can indiscriminately cause terror attacks on the Soul of a White Man.

I'm afraid you need more than just being good at clickety clacketing away at a keyboard.

>>25399519
>doesn't have a harem or faceslap
Is it even a cultivation story if these aren't true?

>>25398072
>Daenerys
She was thirteen and there was no anal, and Drogo was surprisingly very gentle during Daenerys' first time. And he was her lawfully wedded husband, not some random mook. A bad comparison. Especially considering the time period when GRRM wrote the book. Folks are alot more anal about age nowadays then they were even half a century ago.

Read Iron & Spice by JGSolid. I honestly can't tell if it's AIslop or not, but the premise is fucking funny, and the story is both educational and kino.

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>>25399726
>and Drogo was surprisingly very gentle during Daenerys' first time

>>25399726
In 2017, I wrote a story on RR where the MC adopted an 11-year-old slave and everyone just thought it was cute. Today, I'd be crucified if I pulled the same lol

>>25399765
Was it reverse grooming kino?

>>25399808
hell yeah

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I tried making gemnini expand the image upwards so i can crop it differently and put the title ontop but that causes it to also make the image blurry as fuck for some reason

>>25399875
covers need to be in 2:3 first of all

>>25399889
I know dipshit I posted the full image for reference, I can crop it wherever I want

>>25399726
>She was thirteen and there was no anal
Boo

>>25399902
Jeety melty

>>25399911
no just regular autist melty
also go back to xiv general

Any stories that just go over an adventuring party as they rise through the ranks (F to S) without any insane OP bullcrap?

>>25399924
>F to S Rank
>no OP bullcrap
???

>>25399944
Obviously not directly from F rank straight to S rank. All the ranks in between. Use context clues. I'd also be okay with general fantasy adventure or mage academy shit. Basically, I want something generic, but fun and well executed.

>>25399951
yeah i know
i mean that the inclusion of S rank itself already implies op bullshit

>>25399961
OP bullshit is good if they have to struggle to get there. It's not good if they start OP and just trivialize the whole story.

>>25399965
>Not building the story and conflicts around your OP MC
ngmi

>>25399999
Quints have spoken, NGMI
Might as well just leave /lit/

>>25399951
>Use context clues.
Dude you were wrong and didn't explain yourself. Don't be retarded and demand people read your mind. You fucking idiot.

Read Grimgar.

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>>25400015
I am the first responder and I think he was pretty clear about "a gradual progression from F to S"
I just think the inclusion of S rank at all immediately means op bullshit

I'm amazed how the troll managed to bait (you)s every time despite being so easy to recognize

>>25400029
There is not one troll, lmao, everyone here is snippy and aggressive and baits engagement and takes things in bad faith. That is just 4chan

>>25400015
Take your meds, schizo. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>25400024
You were 100% right about S rank being OP bullshit and the guy just sperged out for no reason. Being a toxic retard.

I'm a saint though so I still recommended him what he wanted, and I even made sure it was good.

>>25400068
You're the only one sperging out

>>25400068
Grimgar is terrible. Source: I made the mistake of reading as far as Vol.11.
It eventually settles into a constant misery porn cycle with no actual progress.

>immortal venerable heaven master elder
why are chinks like this?

>>25400096
Because it's a different language. They will frequently have three "word" titles. In English we say "dark lord" they might say "dark beast lord".

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>>25399239
>Being upset with the 1% Lifesteal MC - Freddy's - suffering is part of the appeal I think. Because it makes his eventual triumph and the downfall of his enemies that much more satisfying. But it's not for everybody. I still like it, and I certainly don't think and LLM or even a retard with LLM assistance could produce something like that.
You misunderstand me. I'm upset that the suffering is either consequence-free or even just a straight-up benefit. The torture doesn't harm him in any way but only makes him stronger. That's not torture, that's just a cultivation sequence.
An actual torture scene would be something like pic related, and these basically never happen in any of these books where protagonists allegedly suffer a lot.

>If you think the plot contrivances are dumb that's fair, but such complaints can be directed at literally any work of fiction.
There's a difference between a plot contrivance and something being retarded. Like, imagine that a problem your characters have in a scene is that they're stuck in the desert and they can't start their car because they've run out of fuel. But they have a can full of gasoline or whatever right there with them. But they just can't figure out how to pour it into the tank. So they just die. That's the level of "plot contrivance" (see: retardation) we're talking about in this "torture" scene.
Unless the point of this scene is that these characters are idiots and the scene is a joke, what this scene played straight does is just say that THE AUTHOR and THE READER is an idiot and a joke.

And I don't agree that these complaints can be so easily directed at any work of fiction. Like, I read Mother of Learning just recently, and there are several points in that series where characters interact with each other and you expect them to say or do certain things. And every single time, the characters say and do things that make sense. There'd be scenes where I was like "this character needs to say this in this scene", and they either always would do it or there'd be a scene afterwards where the reason they didn't is addressed. Or, when they do stupid or sentimental things, it's because that makes sense due to the characters being stupid or sentimental (or sometimes they have hidden motives that are alluded to).
But it never makes sense for a torturer not to be able to figure out how to torture knowledge out of someone, that you could figure out how to in 2 seconds. That is not "plot contrivance", and it's not merely "dumb", that is "retarded". In fact, I would call it "fucking retarded".

>>25400096
Different language. In chinese it sounds normal because each "word" is basically one syllable.

>>25400131
I wonder if they feel that english is slow, like it takes forever to read a sentence in it.

Covid years were the golden age for webnovel slop. You could tell every work had real love put into it even if it was complete garbage. God I hate AI.

What are some good progression stories where a peasant goes to zero to hero? No secret powers or hidden lineage bullshit

>>25400024
Japskies have a lot of winnies with S-rank adventurers that struggle to beat bandits

>>25400140
Maybe for reading, but in terms of speaking information density between languages is pretty similar.

>>25399519
阵问长生

Took like five days, but the trash review was finally removed. Considering how the staff is by default on the reviewer's side and give them a chance to defend and edit their critique before outright deleting it, that fucker must've put real effort into failing it. Even the mod was telling me to block the cunt between the lines, though he couldn't just outright say that lmao

>>25400173
>but in terms of speaking information density between languages is pretty similar.
Absolute fucking cope.

>>25400173
Are you insane?

>>25400140
Yes.
t. CSL 2 dialects with many ESL students

>>25400275
>Are you insane?
Monolingual amerimutts literally are unable to grasp how bad their language is.

I'm an ESL and my native language is fairly information-dense, but I prefer English. It's easy to work with and highly expressive if wielded properly.

I'm one of the dumb amerimutts admittedly but I dont see why information density would make a language good for creative writing in the first place. its a tangential quality not a good or bad one
the way English was cobbled together and is kind of a mess gives it a lot of character for creative works

>>25400162
Can you people stop fucking demanding shit like this? Newsflash, dickhead: if your average peasant could go from zero to hero just by being "motivated" then everyone would be a fucking supergod.

Get a grip. You and all those other wankers who demand the protagonist can't have a leg up for reasons you're too much of a troglodyte to elucidate upon.

>>25400327
This
>>25400323
>highly expressive if wielded properly.
I read an article recently that claimed it's due to English being actually German, Dutch, French, and Latin left to stew for a couple of centuries so you get a fascinating array of synonyms with various shades of cultural meanings to play with

>>25400328
You sound like you're coping about your own mediocrity.

>>25400346
You sound like you're retarded.

>>25400337
>English is an abnormally chimeric language
yes that's why it's so expressive correct

>>25400355
Looks like I struck a nerve.

>>25400346
Can you run as fast as Usain Bolt?

>>25400365
Faster

>>25399951
The Center for Dungeon Management does this pretty well, but it's dungeon break urban fantasy

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>>25400197
Sadly, I've read that. Currently ploughing through Tales of the Teal Mountain sect too. Thank you anyway.

>>25399519
Anything by Mao Ni
Unsheathed
Immortality through Array Formations

>>25400572
unsheathed is hot garbage
itaf is good

>>25400337
It's because the language is used so widely it has had a lot more room to grow to become more expressive.
>>25400327
All the languages have a similar rate of information that they can convey in speech. It's most likely twisted to your brain's processing speed for input and output.
>>25400257
>>25400275
>Are you insane?
>Absolute fucking cope.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aaw2594
>For example, linguistic differences between Japanese and English lead to a ratio of 1:11 in their number of distinct syllables. These differences in repertoire size result in large variation in the amount of information they encode per syllable according to Shannon’s theory of communication. Despite those differences, Japanese and English endow their respective speakers with linguistic systems that fulfill equally well one of the most important roles of spoken communication, namely, information transmission. We show here that the interplay between language-specific structural properties (as reflected by the amount of information per syllable) and speaker-level language processing and production [as reflected by speech rate (SR)] leads languages to gravitate around an information rate (IR) of about 39 bits/s.
tl;dr higher information density languages are just spoken (and listened to) slower, leading to a similar information rate no matter the language

>>25400625
>All the languages have a similar rate of information that they can convey in speech. It's most likely twisted to your brain's processing speed for input and output.
Part of it is that you don't know where the spaces are in other peoples languages when spoken. This creates the impression that they are speaking really fast.

>>25400122
>That's not torture, that's just a cultivation sequence.
Yes, it's a stealth cultivation series. Cultivation by suffering and his dao is insanity or some shit.

>Like, I read Mother of Learning just recently, and there are several points in that series where characters interact with each other and you expect them to say or do certain things. And every single time, the characters say and do things that make sense. There'd be scenes where I was like "this character needs to say this in this scene", and they either always would do it or there'd be a scene afterwards where the reason they didn't is addressed. Or, when they do stupid or sentimental things, it's because that makes sense due to the characters being stupid or sentimental (or sometimes they have hidden motives that are alluded to).

Man, you are like the worst kind of reader/commenter.
>erm, I wouldn't do THAT, this is retarded!
>erm, I don't think like THAT, this is retarded!
If you want your own thought processes and understandings parroted back to you, I don't think literature is the right entertainment medium. Have you considered tiktok or some other kind of algorithmic feed to safely ensconce you in a media bubble that reinforces what you already believe? How about religion? Every week you can listen to a preacher tell you what you already think and praise you for thinking that and reassure you that everyone else is wrong, you'll be rewarded in the next life, and they'll all suffer for eternity for not agreeing with you 100%.

Re-read your post and pretend you didn't write it. The author of that post comes off as a MASSIVE tool. Thankfully the author is Anonymous and you can just move past it and grow from this experience.

>>25400589
I like Unsheathed, though the first arc is a confusing mess

>>25400690
Enjoyed what exactly? It's shit and you have a shit taste.

>>25400743
No, you.

>>25400122
Mol characters and story were lame but also consistent, they acted lame and in predictable fashon, never breaking character.

What type of cultivator start do you like?

I'm leaning towards "mortal that gets an opportunity". Like the typical Record of a Mortal's Journey thing, but instead of a magic bottle he just gets the most rudimentary stuff he needs to start, and probably a reason to bother starting. Obligatory "demons destroyed my home town and I lived only because I was innawoods at the time" maybe?

>>25400743
Is this just one mentally ill faggot?

>>25400886
we're all mentally ill faggots, that's why we're here. delusions otherwise just makes you pathetic

>>25400625
>tl;dr
How does the study define "information rate"?
>higher information density languages are just spoken (and listened to) slower
Yeah, this study doesn't actually disagree with what I said, which is that compared to chinese, English is less "dense", which is usually measured in information per syllable. The fact that fluent speakers increase or decrease speech rate to compensate is a separate matter.

If someone said "png and webp have the same density because png can load at the same rate on a faster connection", the world would be up in arms

>>25400015
sorry, the author hit me with the amnesia stick

>>25401014
I wish people would stop saying this. I get that you mean it in a self-deprecating way, but Voltaire was right. A community that pretends to be retarded, or in this case mentally ill, is just going to attract that kind of person who thinks they're in good company.

We need to be bullying the retards and the mentally ill. Not trying to form a group therapy session.

>>25401159
If the limiting factor is your brain's processing speed then a more information dense langauge isn't going to make you absorb infornation at a faster rate than that. Maybe reading works through a different mechanism that allows you to inrcease the data rate, but I doubt that it's a big difference.

Also, we don't read a syllable at a time. We read words and phrases at a time. lf you disagree then l hope you picked up all the spelling errors in this post without having to reread it.

>>25400625
>All the languages have a similar rate of information that they can convey in speech
lol
Please do try to tell me how "they are coming!" or "in-co-ming" is similar to just saying "ku-ru ku-ru ku-ru" in Japanese or "idą idą idą!" in Polish.

>>25401211
Because you don't read syllables. You read words and phrases.

>>25401231
And by the time you say your word or phrase once, I can say it three times, faster, with more urgency.

Or I can slip more vital information in while you are still trying to clarify that something is happening. Dwa idą, trzej idą, teki kuru.

>>25401169
if you're well adjusted, intelligent, and sociable, why aren't you in a more meaningful social group?

Man is the spirit of all living beings

>>25401169
>Voltaire was right. A community that pretends to be retarded, or in this case mentally ill, is just going to attract that kind of person who thinks they're in good company.
Bye, we'll miss you.

>>25401211
In English you could just say
"Two o'clock low"
In the context of being wary of enemies that would not only communicate that enemies are coming but also where exactly they are.

I don't understand what you're trying to prove. If you think English is such a shit language then write your WN in Japanese or Polish.

>>25401303
I would, but then a German, a Frenchman, a Chinaman, an Australian, a Canadian, a Mexican, and a Brazilian would not be able to read them.

English is not by any measure a good language. It's just the most common and easy to learn one. I have to wrestle this piece of shit so much to get sentences to mean what I want them to mean.

>>25401337
>I have to wrestle this piece of shit so much to get sentences to mean what I want them to mean.
skill issue

>>25401359
Perhaps, but anytime I try to be poetic using the structure of my own language, I am immediately met with
>erm but you can't do that in English!
It drives me fucking insane.

I get new ideas for stories every week and it makes me lose interest in the previous ideas. How do I actually settle on something and write it? All I seem to do is prep for the new idea.

>>25401412
You need to learn this magic called "discipline"

>>25401379
I never have English and my native language mix in my head at all, either I use one to think or the other. I might have a split personality at this point, or maybe that is how most people do it, I'm not sure.

>>25401204
>then a more information dense langauge isn't going to make you absorb infornation at a faster rate than that
Even if comprehension rate remains the same, it might be that native English speakers speak faster in order to achieve the same rate of information transfer.
And yes, if you can speak the same words faster, by using shorter monosyllabic synonyms of longer words for example, you would over a long conversation convey the same meaning in less time, provided the users are equally fluent in both synonyms.
I agree that reading would narrow the difference, for the same reason it is faster to speak than to write: some words are much longer than others but can be read and spoken faster.

An experiment protocol that could prove this is to give directions using the most monosyllabic possible words in English and then give directions using the most polysyllabic words possible, and see which listener gets the job done first. After first establishing for control purposes that every word is understood by the listener, of course.
But anecdotally as a trilingual I can tell you that chinese is faster and simpler to speak than English.

Without polysyllabic words, modifiers, suffixes and prefixes and so on to indicate tenses etc, languages such as chinese rely on context to get the idea across. Especially given all the homonyms.
E.g. saying
>me eat done breakfast
is objectively faster than
>I have already eaten breakfast

P.s. I wrote out an experiment using Ai but then remembered that it's been proven that Ai does process short words and caveman-speak faster than longer words, so that won't work.

>>25401418
As a fluent trilingual I have to "shift gears" or "switch languages" in my head, I would not as quickly understand a paragraph written with alternating clauses in different languages, for example. I believe this is common.

>>25401231
I'm quite sure you'd read a word like say "revolutionary" in less time than you'd say it let alone write it, however.

>>25401427
>I have already eaten breakfast
How you feel if not?

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English is pretty cool.
I like English.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVT2btZjYlM

>>25401534
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_English_words_by_country_or_language_of_origin

>>25401534
Inuits have 11 words for "snow" or something and arabs have another dozen words for sand and the english have like 1 for each. So much for rich vocabulary lmao

>>25401550
deboonked
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_words_for_snow
>The claim that Eskimo words for snow are unusually numerous, particularly in contrast to English, is a cliché commonly used to support the controversial linguistic relativity hypothesis.

>>25401551
>though a 2010 study supports the core notion that the Yupik and Inuit languages have many more root words for frozen variants of water than the English language
The rest is just john bull seething

I plan to launch on RR and Patreon when I have 70 chapters ready.
>One chapter a day for 15 days.
>3 chapters a week after that.
>Single $10 patreon tier for 12 chapters ahead of RR.
>Every remaining chapter is backlog to fill in in case I get sick or go on vacation.
Is this a good plan? Should I prepare more chapters? Should I add another tier? Anything I should change?

>rr now has a local protagonist tag
yikes

>>25401601
What does that even mean?

>>25401603
that it's not an isekai

>>25401603
opposite of isekai protagonist

>>25401603
That even if there is a portal fantasy tag, the MC is from the fantasy world. Of course people will use it to virtue signal against isekai mostly.

>>25401551
>>25401554
while the eskimo thing specifically is presented stupidly, i like this topic in general, i speak three different languages and like to check out words in other languages, and you can often see that the words that are simple in a given language are the things the people who speak it deal with in their everday lives, while distant things from around the world tend to be phrases

btw it's embarrassing english doesn't have distinct words for low tide and high tide the way many languages which are less connected to the sea and sailing do