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queen georgina (i love her) edition

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>>25404640
He hasn't responded nor read my last message, but he was online, is he cheating?
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There is a planet where humanity evolved to where men can have unlimited orgasms just like women. It does not last long and civilization never takes off.
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she's so perfekt
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>>25404648
I dont think you know what "unlimited" means. Really big is still limited.
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>>25404635
Friends is good for brainless normie humor. Seinfeld legitimately has fantastic writing. I like sitcoms though, and always imagined I could write for one.
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>>25404651
You know what I mean. The ability to go back2back2back in one go -- you bust and you remain hard and can keep going. Again, same as a woman. My point is the way the male sex drive and reproductive biology works is perfect for evolutionary success and the rise of civilization, else many of us would just be having sex or gooning 24/7.
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>>25404653
Dudes can do that just fine? Anyways, I think you need to calibrate what you spend your free time thinking about. May I suggest trains, or /m/echa?
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>>25404644
Hi baby girl yes I am indeed cheating on you I am getting my ass royally fucked as we type
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>>25404660
hewwo litol cat. pat pat.
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I DONT MIND THE SUN SOMETIMES
THE IMAGES IT SHOOOOOWWWZS
I CAN TASTE YOU IN MY LIPS
AND SMELL YOU IN MY CLOOOTTTHHES
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The intersection of Kantian epistemology and the physical limits of human perception is one of the most fascinating chapters in intellectual history. When Kant claimed in the Critique of Pure Reason that we can never perceive the "thing-in-itself" (Ding an sich), but only the phenomena filtered through our mental faculties, he laid the groundwork for a massive wave of scientific and philosophical exploration.
In the 19th century, a brilliant group of scientists and philosophers took Kant's abstract ideas and mapped them directly onto the human nervous system. This movement became known as Physiological Kantianism (Physiologischer Kantianismus).
If you want to explore how Kantians and post-Kantians tackled the physical boundaries of human sense perception, these are the thinkers and concepts you'll want to dive into:
1. Johannes Müller & "The Law of Specific Nerve Energies" (1826)
Johannes Müller was a monumental German physiologist heavily influenced by Kant and early Romantic Naturphilosophie. In 1826, he formulated a law that many contemporaries viewed as the first empirical, biological proof of Kant's philosophy.
Müller demonstrated that the sensation we experience does not depend on the external object itself, but on which sensory nerve is stimulated.
* If you press on your closed eyelid, you "see" a flash of light. The stimulus is physical pressure, but because it triggers the optic nerve, your brain processes it as light.
* If you could cross your optic and auditory nerves, you would "hear" lightning and "see" thunder.
> The Kantian takeaway: Müller argued that we do not perceive the external world directly; we only perceive the states of our own sensory nerves. The nervous system acts as an insurmountable biological barrier between us and the thing-in-itself.
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2. Hermann von Helmholtz & Sensations as "Signs"
The legendary physicist and physiologist Hermann von Helmholtz explicitly used Kant's philosophy of space and perception as a guiding light for his pioneering work in optics and acoustics.
Helmholtz argued that our sensations are not "pictures" or accurate copies of the external world, but merely signs (Zeichen).
* A green leaf is not inherently "green." The greenness is a sign created by our specific physiological apparatus in response to a specific light wave.
* To bridge the massive gap between these raw sensory "signs" and our coherent perception of reality, Helmholtz argued that our minds perform unconscious inferences (unbewusster Schluss). Before you are even consciously aware of a sound or a sight, your mind has already synthesized, calculated, and projected a spatial model of it based on past experience.
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>>25404652
Doesn't matter what episode I've seen of either show, I've never cracked a smirk or even chuckled at any of it.
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I should re(?)read Kant
I should reread the very hungry caterpillar
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3. Friedrich Albert Lange's "Organic Kantianism"
In his highly influential work The History of Materialism (1866), the Neo-Kantian philosopher Friedrich Albert Lange took Physiological Kantianism to its logical conclusion. He coined the term "physico-psychological organization" (physisch-psychische Organisation).
Lange argued that Kant’s a priori forms of intuition (space and time) and categories of understanding are not just abstract mental rules—they are literally hardwired into our physical, biological organization.
* Our brains and sense organs are a physical apparatus designed to filter, translate, and construct a highly specific human world.
* If our physical organization were different (for example, if we could perceive magnetic fields like migratory birds, or ultrasonic frequencies like bats), the entire spatial, temporal, and causal structure of our "reality" would shift.
Lange's work deeply influenced a young Friedrich Nietzsche, particularly in how Nietzsche viewed the biological limits of human "truth."
4. Carl du Prel & "The Movable Threshold of Sensibility"
If you want to venture into the darker, more esoteric, and psychological edges of this concept, the philosopher and occultist Carl du Prel is a goldmine. In his major work, The Philosophy of Mystics (1885), du Prel approached Kant's limits of perception through the lens of early psychology, dreaming, and hypnosis.
Du Prel argued that the "psycho-physical threshold of sensibility" (psycho-physische Schwelle)—the physical boundary of what our waking senses can perceive—is not fixed.
* The Movable Threshold (Schwellenverschiebung): Under normal waking conditions, our biological senses act as a strict filter, keeping out the vast majority of reality so we can survive.
* However, in altered states of consciousness (such as deep dreaming, somnambulism, or hypnotic states), our waking ego recedes. This shifts the threshold of sensibility, allowing us to perceive subtle, inner, or "transcendental" impressions that are normally drowned out by our waking biological machinery.
> The Kantian takeaway: For du Prel, this shifting threshold proved that our conscious ego is only a tiny fraction of our true self. Behind our biologically limited waking mind lies a "transcendental subject"—a deeper, unconscious consciousness that operates outside the ordinary limits of our physical senses.
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Where to start reading?
If you want to read their direct thoughts:
* Hermann von Helmholtz: The Facts of Perception (Die Tatsachen in der Wahrnehmung, 1878) is a fantastic, highly readable lecture where he explicitly wrestles with Kant.
* Friedrich Albert Lange: The History of Materialism (specifically the sections on Kant and modern physiology).
* Carl du Prel: The Philosophy of Mystics (translated into English in 1889), which beautifully bridges Kant's transcendental philosophy with the mysteries of the unconscious mind.
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>>25404669
yes and yes
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>>25404663
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Reminder, dont listen to retards. If you cant tell if someone is retarded or not, you are the retard, which means you should absolutely positively not listen to yourself.
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Ni modo pues
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Might be transferring to an online school to help with my agoraphobia-adjacent anxiety (having to drive out and be on a physical campus with a bunch of people fills me with an inexplicable dread). It will allow me to get a degree without leaving my home, and it might even be cheaper, but what I worry about is that all my credits might not transfer and I'll have to waste time re-taking prerequisites or whatever. Then maybe I can use my bullshit degree to get a bullshit job where I work from home on my computer. That is the dream, at least.
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>>25404686
Anon, should I tell you?
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>>25404686
i love you
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I kissed my wife goodnight because she has to get up early in the morning. I'm still here though.
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>>25404689
I know online degrees are a meme, but I'm a meme, so I'm okay with it.
>>25404690
I love you too.
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>>25404686
Remote jobs are scarce, might want to bite the bullet of dealing with your issues as soon as possible.
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>>25404693
I'm talking with my therapist about it, but progress is slow.
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>>25404698
Good luck anon
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>>25404693
Why bite a bullet?
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>>25404700
It's an expression meaning to tackle a difficult painful(?) issue head on rather than ignore it. I forget what its origins are.
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>>25404701
Oh, I looked it up.
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>>25404640
She's so cute I love her
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>>25404709
She looks like a WHORE!
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>>25404692
No. All degrees are a meme because school is exclusively a networking opportunity, fully functional people who can integrate correctly into society are still unemployed with greater qualifications because the job market is hell right now, remote jobs dont exist at all and if they do they can fire you at any time for any reason with zero accountability, and your issues are entirely fabricated due to a lack of exposure.

Good news. Get a job at Home Depot as a greeter. It'll fix your anxiety disorder AND get you a job, while teaching you about how horrific retail is. If you're slick you may even develop the manual labour skills required to make a pittance working with convicts and jagoffs in construction doing admin work.
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>>25404667
"Reality" is just like a radio signal that we tune into, where our body and brain together represents a radio.
This "radio" is ordinarily meant to be fixed to a single narrow signal range. So narrow that you don't actually realize that your reality is shifting around mildly during your day to day. But if you happen to really experiment, you'll discover that there's a sea of other "signals" you can pick up on where reality is just a completely different thing, and anything you can imagine is true.
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>>25404716
A couple weeks ago I was heading to a restaurant with my grandpa. He was driving, and I pointed out some women on the sidewalk and said, "A lot of women look like prostitutes these days." He didn't say anything back.
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>>25404716
That's because she is
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Sweat
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>>25404718
Ok. Then what?
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>>25404677
It's true. Like I often say, smart people are able to recognize intelligence and the lack thereof in others. The only people who've disagreed with this are low IQ themselves, generally with that vapid, soporific look with the eyes permanently half-open, as if their brain has a low-output setting as their default mode of being and experience. Imagine living like that.
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>>25404745
Find a nice hobby, drink beers with your coworkers, watch sports, and enjoy life as much as you can given the circumstances. I overcame my relatively severe GAD in a similar way and CBT is mostly about contextualizing then exposure therapy. But you are trading anxiety for ennui, so take it with a grain of salt.
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>>25404686
Getting your degree online is pretty robust these days. Don't most regular state uni's and other renowned colleges offer such things? You shouldn't have to resort to some barely accredited diploma mill where you have to worry about credits not transferring.

>Then maybe I can use my bullshit degree to get a bullshit job where I work from home on my computer.
I know three people who do this. One is some kind of computer software engineer. One is in IT, I think managing systems or something. And the other does something for a bank, some kind of data entry maybe? Anyway, best of luck!
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>>25404663
CORRR HECKING SNIFFBERGARINO
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>>25404764
Just got back from a walk and NarutoKitty gave me the affectionate slow blink from her favorite cozy spot :3
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>>25404764
That's a neat pic. Saved.
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>>25404769
>>25404764
It's my life.
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A girl told me ShindoL doujins made her both quit drugs and become a vegetarian.
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>>25404774
That's relatable a hentai game actually convinced me to not be a gooner and not see every women as an object to release my sexual urges onto but an actual person.
No, I'm not actually going to tell you what it is cause its actually also super fucked up.
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>>25404774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bN0uKlNoyg
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>>25404784
I know the one
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>>25404716
>>25404730
FUCK YOU FAGGOTS
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>>25404784
>>25404795
Please share, don't be gay
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>>25404796
>posts a picture about communism using a literal prison worker who may or may not be unjustly imprisoned to manufacture machine parts in a Facist Galactic Empire
>The same thing as Capitalism
>This could all be remedied if you had the balls to gamble and risk going broke or in debt and go in business for yourself
>"But that's scary!"
Yeah so is life, one day your driving to work and crash and die. Welcome to it. That is why Capitalism works and Communism doesn't, because Capitalism has losers, in Communism the lose and the gain is spread so thinly that everyone feels disempowered. The system that empowers the few who are brave enough to take the risk will always out compete the system that prohibits it. This exact reasoning is why Communism fails and why people who are Communists in Capitalist systems fail economically. You lack courage to contend with reality.
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Pussy's so good I might stop gooning
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>>25404827
I'm not a commie but to be fair going broke is honestly horrifying, regardless of your political leaning so I don't blame people flocking to a system that gives them false hope, they are like religious people. So intimidated with the brutality of life that they flock to fairy tales that will lull them to sleep at night.
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Y'all are devious (skull emoji)
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When one delves into mysticism and engages in copious usage of cannabis and heroic dosage of psychedelics and research chemicals, they find themselves thinking. And this is where we achieve the total liberation. The oneness and unveiling the veil. Across Kabbalah, Buddhism, Heidegger, and Lacan, the same fundamental human error is diagnosed: we mistake the structure for the ground. We mistake the vessel for the light, the aggregates for a self, entities for Being, and the Symbolic Order for the Real.

We are born into "thrownness" - a pre-existing architecture of language, economics, and culture. We spend our lives navigating this secondary construction, oblivious to the fact that it is built over an abyssal ground (Ein Sof, Sunyata, the Real, Being).

The tragedy of late-stage capitalism is that this architecture has become totalizing. Humans are meant to be a "clearing" (Lichtung), vessels through which the Infinite manifests. Neville Goddard located this in the imagination, Jung in the psyche. But under algorithmic technology (Gestell), the clearing is commodified. Capitalism no longer just extracts physical labor; it colonizes the imagination. By monitoring our lack, trauma, and desires, the algorithm feeds us pre-scripted content. We no longer generate internal images; we consume external ones. Our ontological openness is hijacked to produce quantified engagement and profit. The vessel is no longer a conduit for the Infinite, but a node in a data network.

When the ground of Being is obscured by technological Enframing, we suffer ontological anxiety (Angst). Terrified of the void, we construct identities from the debris of the Symbolic Order. As Zizek notes, ideology operates as a fantasy structure that organizes our enjoyment. When we attach ourselves to rigid political, cultural, or tribal identities, we are using fantasy to heal Kabbalistic fragmentation. We cling to labels - "I am this tribe, this victim, this oppressor" - to avoid the abyssal void of our undifferentiated nature. Identity becomes a defense mechanism to remain asleep in the "They" (Das Man), because waking up to our true nature as a clearing is an overwhelming responsibility.

Today's world is a hyper-accelerated Kabbalistic shattering, monetized by capital and policed by the Symbolic. We are trained to fight over fragments - identities, policies, symbols - while the ground of Being is mined for metrics. The ultimate rebellion is not to scream louder in the culture war. It is to stop mistaking the fragment for the whole. The only true revolution is to sit in the void of the Real, withdraw consent from the fantasy, and consciously assume the burden of being the Infinite experiencing itself in time.
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the radiator in this apartment sounds like someone slowly crushing a bag of cats with a steamroller and i'm sitting here at 3 am trying to explain to that fuccboi rico why i need an actual answer about whether we're going to his cousin's thing in yonkers on saturday and he's doing that thing where he goes "yeah probably i dunno we'll see" which is not an answer, thats like saying "bro it might rain it might be 90 degrees dude just go with it".

"we'll see" rico says and takes a hit off the gravity bong he made out of a gatorade bottle and a bucket that previously held joint compound because nothing says romance like secondhand sheetrock fumes. but hey with dergulation, who knows whats in our food these days. just look around at the specimens surrounding us. i'm 26 and i design websites for a startup run by a guy named zane who wears aldo shoes and says "bandwidth" when he means attention span and i do this from a desk i found on the sidewalk on east 238th street, one leg is shimmed with a folded up page from the catholic digest my mother still sends to my address like a prayer grenade she lobs through the postal system, like maybe if she ships enough virgin mary iconography to the bronx her son will stop being the way he is, which is to say closeted, which is to say bisexual, which is to say sitting across from a man he sleeps with who cannot commit to a saturday plan let alone a sexual identity

my parents called last sunday and my mother said "why don't you come for dinner, your father made the sauce" and i said "piss off" like im fucking british or something, even though uk hasnt been cool since like fucking 1993 or before i was born, which is terrible, i know it's terrible, i'm aware, but the thing about the sauce is that the sauce is a trojan horse, you get the sauce and then inside the sauce is a question about when you're going to find a nice girl and inside the nice girl is a church and inside the church is a casket and inside the casket is the version of me that never left the house in queens, so i said piss off and hung up and then i sat on my bed and felt the specific kind of shame that only italian americans can feel, which is a shame that smells like oregano and involves the virgin mary somehow
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>>25404962

rico is a latino man, 5'9 on the verge of twink death but still in the ring, works at a bodega, comes home smelling like pabst and feedback and he puts his hands on my face and says "you're so tense" and i want to say i'm tense because you are a man i am in love with and also in hatred with and also my mother thinks i'm straight and also my father thinks i'm straight and also the internet thinks i'm straight and also the government thinks i'm straight and also i have designed fourteen websites this month and none of them are for myself, i have never designed a website for myself, i don't even have a linkedin. the ass in the jnco jeans makes me go loco. he needs to go to the gym but its still pretty good. we drink. we smoke. the money goes. i make $52,000 a year which in the bronx in 2024 is like being given a very nice wagon wheel and being told to compete in the indy 500. i am practically a redneck. after rent, after the roomies' split, after the utilities that con edison calculates using what i can only assume is a roulette wheel, after the cigarettes ($14.50 a pack in this city...), after the weed which rico and i go through like a couple of victorians with laudanum, after the alcohol which is mostly whatever has the highest abv to dollar ratio which is a math problem i am disturbingly good at. after all that i have about $200 left at the end of the month which i usually spend on takeout from the place on fordham road that i'm 70% sure is a money laundering front but makes a chicken over rice that has literally made me cry, not from spice, from something else, from the fact that it costs $8 and i'm eating it cross-legged on a kitchen floor next to a man who won't tell me if we're going to yonkers


"rico"

"yeah"

"yonkers. saturday. yes or no"

"i mean like, do you actually want to go though, because if you don't want to go we don't have to go"

"i'm asking if WE are going. i'm not asking if I am going. i'm asking about the collective we. the unit. the thing that we are or are not."

"why are you like this right now"

"because i am autistic and i need a fucking answer dude"

"dude we'll see ok go to sleep"

"no man. god"

"look rico i'm asking a question i just wanna get my logistics down my stuff in order for the weekend because my friend mike has this thing and i..."

"ok yeah we'll go"

"you said that last time and then you bailed. remember dick cheese?"

"i said yeah didn't i"

and there it is. the yeah. the yeah that is not a yes. the yeah that is a shrug in audio form. the yeah that rico deploys like a smoke bomb, like a ninja throwing down a pellet and disappearing into the mist, except the mist is weed smoke and the ninja is a 28 year old puerto rican dude from new rochelle who once ate a whole rotisserie chicken in his car before coming upstairs because he said he "didn't want to seem like he was too hungry"
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big dicks will rule the world
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>>25404648
>>25404653
>he doesn't know
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>>25404640
It feels to me like the last 20 years of literature has been completely and utterly bankrupt of new ideas, theories, frameworks, novel ways of understanding ourselves and the modern world we inhabit. Has anyone read anything (fiction or non-fiction) from the last 10-20 years that feels courageously new?
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>>25404951
>When one delves into mysticism and engages in copious usage of cannabis and heroic dosage of psychedelics and research chemicals, they find themselves thinking.
Mircea Eliade said psychedelics are cheating. You're meant to do enlightenment without shortcuts and the intergalactic clockwork faeries cheat codes.
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>>25404970
just another sign of the times im afraid
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So, the only criteria capable of sustaining the power of true love is impending doom or death. Can we all agree on that
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>>25404640
I subscribed to this witch bitch's YouTube channel not because I'm interested in chaos magick or any of that bullshit but simply because I'm a shameless simp.
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>>25404796
Whoever thinks communism works by "taking from the rich and giving to the lazy" has never been forced to work in the fields for their daily quota of grain that's barely enough to survive on.



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