Behold the wisdom of the great intellectual hero of the West that /lit/ promoted for years
>>25406901He even started dying at the same time the board did
>>25406901great forum weapon
>JP pointing out christianity is a subversive jewish golem religion. Based. Reject abrahamism.
nobody say anything
>>25406907Like the Jews themselves did when they denied the Resurrection?
>>25406901He's stating facts, it's his conclusions where we differ
>>25406923Like the Christians did when they rejected the Prophet Muhammad's teachings
>>25406926>the Prophet Muhammaddidn't that guy rape a 7 year old?
>>25406929You are the Prophet Muhammad?
>>25406926>>25406929>>25406923It's always great fun watching the three headed golem of jewish religions fight over which is the true inheritor of the abrahamic faith. They get so snooty and they denigrate the others as much as they can and then in the end they all still believe in the fucking retarded goatfucker god anyway.
>>25406929I don't see how the obvious Christian conclusion about Islam isn't that it's literally Satanic. It's a worldly religion of martial conquest and empire, exactly the fruits you'd expect from Satan, the Lord of the World. Even its conception of the afterlife is fundamentally "earthly" with its visions of pleasure and sexual satisfaction.And let's not forget: Muhammad claims to have received the Quran from an angel. This is literally what St. Paul warns about in Galatians 1:8>But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel other than the one that we preached to you, let that one be accursed!It's just yet another thing Vatican 2 got wrong. Failed council.
>>25406936>worldly religion of martial conquest and empireWho is Charlemagne?
>>25406934The cognitive dissonance among christians particularly when it comes to jews is bewildering. The entire religion is predicated on jewish morals and dogma, every single one of their prophets and their own messiah figure were jewish, and the only reason it became a non-jewish religion was Peter’s interpretation. Spiritually and psychologically they are absolutely cucked. How can they live in this age of information of 2026 and still not see it? My goodness people, just decouple. Reject it.
>>25406934>>25406944Because the Resurrection really happened.
>>25406945kek it's as made up as every other religion on earth. Give me one reason why I should believe this religion, which we have clear historical evidence was one of many jewish cults in that time period, over any other?
>>25406901I can't believe anyone takes this retard seriously. Anyone worth their salt knows it was protestant education in early modern europe that lead to the rise of mass literacy. The Jews had nothing to do with it.
>>25406929age of consent is a spook
Gen Z is cesspit of subhumans beneath contempt and historical disaster before it even fully materialized. It's the enemy. The goal is to make you stay in your place until you die childless because god forbid if we let the eternal losers start winning.
>>25406996Gen Z have made antisemitism and the jewish question mainstream, they’ve undone nearly 100 years of jewish programming. They’re based as shit.
>>25406901>reddits favourite philosopherI've despised this retard since before you could read.
>>25406949>Give me one reason why I should believe this religion over any other?To steal directly from Tertullian, that acerbic, scrupulous near-saint: “the son of god was put to death: it is immediately credible because it is silly.”
>>25406901>Christ Himself was a JewI'll never understand why they equate first century or earlier Jews with the modern Jews of modern 'Israel', or Christ with a mere Jew as opposed to God manifested in the flesh Christians are supposed to believe he was. Christ himself didn't even share this bizarre reverence for the Jewish people of his time and spent much of the gospels lampooning them as 'lost sheep'. He certainly wouldn't have had any for those near two millennia deep into the largely non-biblical rabbinic tradition, and much less those those that reject God entirely in favour of secularism.There's no legitimate Christian justification for treating the modern Jewish people with any special reverence. It's all very cucked and gay.
>>25406960>thinks protestants aren't part of the jewish plan
>>25406901Fuck Jordan most of the time but these are literally just facts. What about this post is offensive to you? Are you coping and seething because /pol/ told you to be a christian and also to be an antisemite and you can't form an independent thought to save your life?
The absolutely obvious truth about Abrahamic religions is this: Christianity is fundamentally Good but fundamentally Stupid. Islam is fundamentally Evil AND fundamentally Stupid. Judaism is both Good and Evil. More notably, unlike it's offspring, it is INTELLIGENT.
>>25406901>fate of the WestThe right wing (nationalist) choice is to execute or deport everyone who's loyal to a foreign state, cut off funds to Israel then send all the Muslims back to their homelands. How would this harm the West?
>>25406936Muslims claim Paul is a false prophet desu
>>25407225The absolutely obvious truth about Abrahamic religions is this: it is fake and based on lies and fiction
>>25406901>the fate of Isr*el at the hands of the Islamists is the fate of the WestI love how every shabbos goy faggot like Peterstein just refuses to admit that j*ws are the driving force behind muslims flooding into the West.
>>25407334muslims claim anything that contradicts whatever shite muhammed felt like espousing is false
>>25407225So close except islam has knowledge and good deeds, Jews have knowledge but no actions and christians have actions but no knowlegde. >>25406901Doomed to be shabbos goy and Jews are doomed to put up with Christian retards if only there was this perfect religion with a perfect unaltered book and perfect messenger with prophecies that are undeniably powerful.>>25406936Revelation commonly was revealed through Jibreel, aka the pure spirit.
>>25406936I don’t think that’s a uniquely Muslim problem. It’s an issue in any religion that if you have an evil deceiver figure running around future developments in that religion could just be said deceiver.You could argue Jesus was actually Satan in disguise, masquerading as the son of God to inhibit the faith of believers. If he injects himself into the theology and mandates worship of himself before God (“No one comes to the Father except through me.”) he could fuck everything up.There’s not really a way to resolve this issue beyond faith, regardless of religion.
>>25407344The North Africans terrorizing Western Europe, who brought them in? Who colonized Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia? You are so ignorant and radicalized please don't talk.
>>25407395Stop diddling children and throwing gays off buildings
>>25407462we don't do that here.
>>25407395>So close except islam has knowledge and good deedsPretty much every Muslim country in history was a shithole full of child rape and slavery.
>>25406901>Christ Himselfhas jbp converted?
>>25407567Name the ones that brought migrants into France en masse.
>>25407416>who brought them in?literally every j*wish organization on Earth supports 3rd world migration into Western countries, and of course they're well known for NEVER interfering in the politics of these countries. They NEVER spend millions trying to get candidates who will allow mass migration elected.>Who colonizedwhy does that matter you dumb faggot? Those countries got their independence, surely they would run their countries well and turn into paradises right? To no one's surprise, they turned into shitholes! Of course even inbred, illiterate savages don't want to live in countries run by, and full of, people like them. >You are so ignorant and radicalized lmao, you're the ignorant retard here pal>please don't talk. ;^)))
>>25407574>>25407569? Go on and answer oink oink
>>25407574Colonialism didn’t simply stop after what you call independence. It continues to this day. Bitter truth for westerners is that the people they mock will come to judge them for it in the end.
>>25407582>It continues to this day.oh man what countries are being taken over and settled by people from Europe? Oh it's not? Damn that's crazy.>the people they mock will come to judge them for it in the end.judge me all you want for calling you a retarded faggot, it's what you are.
>>25407549that was the case everywhere in the world.
>>25407607Yeah but not to the same extent. Muslimtards literally needed to be blackmailed by the kaffir just to give up slavery and most of them only gave it up on paper and even that in the 1950's.
>>25407607odd how it's prevalent in muslim countries in the current year.
>>25407607>you used to shit yourself when you were a baby so it's OK for me to shit myself as an adult
>>25406934Meanwhile....
>>25407611at least slavery in muslim countries weren't justified by race superiority.
>>25407637>unjustified evil is betterlol?
>>25406901He's right though. Christians are hypocrites
>>25407637because it's so much better to justify it by religious superiority right?
>>25407636reminder that witches, fags, and abortions go hand-in-hand:https://youtu.be/DKliIG90YDw
>>25407682it is in fact better, because you can change your religion, even ostensibly. still, that wasn't even the case, muslims could be enslaved just like any other religious group, the fact that you even used this as an argument shows you know nothing about the history of the islamic world and just projecting your filthy culture.
>>25407687>you can graduate from being a slave to being a different type of slave>and all you have to do is give up all your values and beliefs!oh, what magnanimity
>>25407687>makes it look worse>acts like he's winning the argument
>>25407702so enslaving people for the sole reason of being black is better?
>>25407710I dunno, maybe?
>>25407680In what specific way? And even if we were, who fucking cares?
>>25407710Yes, commiting an evil for a religious reason is worse. Good luck logically dismantling why it's not justified when "god" is saying it's okay.>inb4 Christianity justified slaveryIt also ended it and the only way people could continue to perpetrate it is by misrepresenting the Bible.
>>25406907The idiots who say this know nothing about history.
>>25407710It wasn't because they were black so much as it was because they were primitive and represented a huge reservoir of labor potential. The racial stuff came about as a means to justify maintaining slavery, despite the horrors of it, in the presence of higher ideals in the West. The combination of industrialization and the rise of modern science/rationalism both played into the character and justification of chattel slavery. Thankfully, the higher ideals eventually won the day and the West ended slavery as a global norm for the first, hopefully the last, time in history.
>>25407732there's no religious discrimination on the basis of which slavery is justified. muslims could be enslaved just like christians or jews. also Islam didn't oblige followers to have slaves, it just permitted it, and therefore it did not function as an incentive. I don't know about you but, as odd as it might sound, I think everyone being equal in their potential of being enslaved is much better than one group of people being vulnerable to slavery for some innate quality.>christianity ended slaveryit didn't, what did was the gradual adoption of secular morality.
>>25407750>willfully misinterpreting what for a religious reason meansI accept your concession.
>>25407756what does religious reason mean? mr retard?
>>25407742NTA but that's kinda beside the point. race superiority still played a justifying role nonetheless.
>>25407758Why does your signature end with a question mark?
>>25407761Ok? Were they wrong?
>>25407761religion is just race with extra steps. that's why you don't have "muslims", you have a bunch of ethnically determined denominations that all wanna kill each other. just like with all the different christians and so on.
>>25407149Bullshit. There are plenty of similar religions and cults of gods losing, like Osiris. That doesn't mean we should believe Osiris was real.The death and resurrection of Jesus follows a clear narrative path, with obvious moral values. It is a story, just like other religions.
>>25407772who are "they"? wrong about what? >>25407769kill yourself amerimutt, you are more likely than not an illiterate hominin.
>>25407782You say that despite demonstrating consistent misunderstanding of our arguments which either means you're disingenuous or illiterate. I think illiterate is the more favorable assumption since at least it's not a moral failing which is harder to forgive.
>>25407687>islam is so moral you guys>but yeah it tells us to have slavesIt's like talking to a less intelligent Jew.
>>25407776if by ethnicity you mean culture, then yeah different religious groups differ in ethnicity by definition. if by it you mean race then no, followers of different islamic denominations do not differ and largely integrate with each other under the same nationality. though some self-imposed segregation does exist, I don't know if that entails racial distinctions though.
>>25407798you're seeing things. I didn't say islam is moral, it arose from the same diabolical seed as christianity. it's just that your delusions of moral superiority never fails to make me cringe.>>25407795I have no idea what are these "arguments" you're hallucinating about.
>>25407807You're in the disingenuous category for sure now.
Nazism and zionism are cringe.
>>25406901like revilo oliver, juden peterstein was allowed to be a professor because hes gaytheist. paul elmer more would of excluded them both
>>25407462That's mostly propaganda. >>25407549See above. The rashidun khalifate as well as the following dynasties did very well relatively. Things went downhill of coursenand by the end the ottoman empire was about as polytheistic as some Christian countries. Thank Allah there has been a shift from this originalring in Saudi Arabia.>slaverySlavery isn't desirable neither is it necessary bad. Christians only eradicated slavery because previously they went beyond all boundaries of decency with it. Just like they gave women the upperhand and let the gays and other freaks loose. You can't have authority over others when you don't control your desires. Spineless worms knew they had it coming.
>>25406901juden peterstein thinks that as a powerful man he has the right to call a tranny whatever he wants to, just like how foucalt taught the north african boys that their reactionary socially constructed sense of masculinity was holding them back from monetary gain. only gaytheists are allowed to be university professors
This thread was supposed to be about mocking Juden Peterstein.
>>25406944It's truly sickening, isn't it? To see your fellow man misled so grievously is really quite something.
>>25407831I don't think you know what polytheism is. >Slavery isn't desirable neither is it necessary bad. Christians only eradicated slavery because previously they went beyond all boundaries of decency with it.Like talking to an animal. You're like 2 minutes away from explaining how incest is actually not all that bad either.
>>25407856incest is not bad though, that's a fact.
>>25407781>It is a story, just like other religionsYou're inches away from an epiphany.
>>25407856Very haughty, impressive. Tell us then what is polytheism
>>25407741You mean the history of Christianity being the most widespread subversion campaign ever recorded? The history of how Christianity completely inverted the morals values and ethics of the ancient world? Anon you’re a golem. I know it’s hard to accept that you’ve been subverted but it’s the truth. Reject it.
>>25407886Polytheism is the belief in multiple gods, not religious diversity like what you were implying.
>>25407918I meant by it ascribing partners to God by likening Him to the creation and vice versa. Either by holding these deviant beliefs such as believing that God is inside us or that everything around us IS God. Another common form of shirk, which is usually translated as polytheism, is to commit acts deemed as worship towards other than God such as invoking the deceased in their graves. All these things nullify true monotheism, a direct and unique relation of servitude towards the Creator.
>>25407828>would of
>>25407831>You can't have authority over others when you don't control your desires.you inbred goatfuckers literally force women to cover themselves because you coombrained shitskins have no self-control lmao.
>>25407586Hey piggy, do you mind answering this? >>25407577Which Jewish organisations facilitated mass migration into France? Oink oink?
>>25407611This is simply untrue or oversimplified at best. Everyone is equal under Islam, btw.
>>25407971what's a woman's testimony worth in Islam, compared to a man's?
>>25407905No, the history of Christianity being far more productive and capable than pagans, the history of Christians suppressing the Jews, the history of Christianity in general, etc. It's just incoherent.
>>25407905>The history of how Christianity completely inverted the morals values and ethics of the ancient worldthis was a good thing
>>25407968https://hias.org/hias-eu/https://ujfp.org/https://renecassin.org/https://aurore.asso.fr/https://tsedek.fr/pretty easy to find desu.
Islam, if we believe the sparse record on it, is the teachings of some random merchant who developed late onset schizophrenia, and then had time to preach around town because he had married a rich widow 20 years older than him. From there all his teaching are pulled out of his ass whenever convenient. The reason polygamy is legal is because they had an excess of women leftover from a conquest where they executed the men lol. It is a collection of ideas designed for maximum control, and it was spread by the swordChristianity was invented by jews who thought it was finally the "end times". An apocalyptic cult. And we keep seeing this pattern repeated with people like the evangelicals and Jehovah witnesses. It just comes down to people wanting to feel special. Jesus was a character invented to sell the message, maybe based on one of the preachers, maybe not. And the granddaddy of them all, Judaism, was just another bronze age religion like all the rest, created by bronze age sheep herders to explain the world around them. Through pure chance, it outlived all the other stories people had, and then evolved into Christianity and Islam and spread across the world. Those two surpassed it due to stronger memes and a focus on evangelism
>>25406944>The entire religion is predicated on jewish morals and dogmaThis is a dumb oversimplification largely made by protestants who are obssessed with sola scriptura. Christianity is mostly a greek religion, every single theological dogma and ethical structure is borrowed from greek philosophers. The jewish part is there mostly for the eschatology, nothing more.Catholics and Orthodoxs know that very well, it's apocalyptic cultish retards from american protestantism that focus way too much on jewish eschatology and end-times theology.
>Christ himself was a JewWhy does this trigger "Christians" so much?
>>25408009It's an implicit denial of his divinity.
>>25407990So they invented a religion to predict the 'apocalypse'... after Jerusalem had fallen and they were put into exile? Seems like bad timing
>>25407989You just spammed websites. I want tangible proof. Can you do this? Can you give us tangible proof? You didn’t answer my question btw even right wing governments have migration policies. Why can’t these organisations decide who to help? DickwadWhere are the Jewish boats? Where are the star of david cargo planes dumping muscular black men into European bedrooms? You fucking loon get over yourself
>>25408009Because it's a pointless and ill informed meme that is repeated ad nauseam by retardsLikely spread by lefties/ Jews as a way of attacking Christian antisemites.
>>25408041NTA but yes, most of the immigrant industrial complex is run by Christians and liberals. This is true in America, and there are so few Jews in Europe that they really aren't a large force in almost anything. Blaming them for the migration issue is nonsensical.
>>25408009Jews aren't white, so wignats (many of whom are only Christians because they think it is a white religion) feel cognitive dissonance from the fact that they worship a brown man.
>>25408045>brown manCalling olive skinned Mediterraneans brown is a pathetic attempt at elevating the inferiors.
I’m a Jew and I’m laffin right now. You really do wonder if the 1000 or so extant wignats truly think they can save their women from dating other cultures.
>>25408041>I want tangible proof. Can you do this? Can you give us tangible proof?you can just read the websites you illiterate faggot.>even right wing governments have migration policies. do any right wing governments endorse mass migration and granting citizenship to migrants to "defeat" their political opponents? just curious, which ones? find me one. You're such a disingenuous cunt lol.
>>25408051>their women from dating other cultures.mutt's law
>>25408053They most definitely use migration as a political weapon lol. That’s how they get votes from piggies like you. Them not delivering on their promises is entirely on you because you’ll keep voting for them anyways. So I don’t see the big deal if both parties do it then by definition it cannot be a partisan issue.
>>25408081k nice post but you just ignored everything, that's not endorsing mass migration so you lose. Get dunked on, eat shit and die moron.
>>25408042>pointless/I'll informed memeJesus was a jew. You worship a jew. You aren't actually antisemitic or else you wouldn't do this.
>>25407984>the history of Christians suppressing the jewsLOL, like right now? You fucking subverted golem retard? Look at the OP post again. Christianity is the only reason jews still exist in the west.
>>25408009Most Christians aren't bothered by this. Why would they be? It's just the small percentage who only became Christian as a function of their antisemitism that piss their diapers when they hear it.
>>25407987Yes, championing passivity and meekness while demonizing strength all while institutionalizing guilt has been great for the west! Just look at how prosperous we are today!
>>25408163>Yes, championing passivity and meekness while demonizing strength all while institutionalizing guilt has been great for the west!The west is a hypercompetitive atomized rat race where your worth as a human being is seen as directly proportional to how much money (power) you can accumulate>Just look at how prosperous we are today!We are with riches. But our souls are impoverished because we've turned out back on the lord
>>25408163>Just look at how prosperous we are today!How do you reconcile your problems with modern society and its declining religiosity if you believe one is the cause of the other
>>25408233truke>>25408163>championing passivity and meekness while demonizing strengthwhat alternatives do you propose then? Seems to me that the majority of larping neo-Pagans and atheists are fat or skinny, out of shape faggots that are the exact people who think physical fitness is ableist, fascist and White supremacist (i.e. people who promote passivity, meekness and demonize strength).
>>25407944Bleef bleef bleef.i buhbubleef.I'm gunna bleef all over.Christianity is obsessed with bleef and the bleef obsession has invested co-called "secular" Western thought.What matters is what you do and what you can demonstrate.Which excludes the large majority of internet losers from having anything to say at all.>Well I uh bleefed really hard!
>>25407194> Christ himself didn't even share this bizarre reverence for the Jewish people of his time and spent much of the gospels lampooning them as 'lost sheep'Are christians actually this delusional? He’s leading a gaggle of jews and debating the jewish law, doubling down on how strictly to follow it. He thinks (some) jews are wrong, because they don’t follow his particular jewish sect, and they’ll all pay because he’ll be king and bring the (jewish) god’s kingdom (on earth) in the lifetime of his disciples. Christcucks don’t seem to have read the gospels and just trust Saul the kike who wasn’t even there when he says ackchully Jesus is all about those goyim (the people he’s selling religion to, Jesus’ actual circle of disciples don’t want anything to do with Saul) and dying was all according to keikaku because the kingdom is coming so soon you shouldn’t even get married or have kids. Stay married if you have to or if you’re a weak bitch. Again christcucks don’t actually read this they just invent copes because it’d be glaringly obvious some delusional desert jews didn’t get what they claimed would happen. Failed predictions have not stopped religious retards they just make up some headcanon about how it was all meant to be. Hell entire christcuck denominations started with failed predictions about the end of days and grew from there (seventh day adventists).
>>25408386>Are christians actually this delusional? He’s leading a gaggle of jews and debating the jewish law, doubling down on how strictly to follow it. He thinks (some) jews are wrong, because they don’t follow his particular jewish sect...Why do Nazis love to play fast and loose with the facts, always glossing right over key information that counters their headcannons?
>>25406934Yeah except Christianity is the only true religion, one is a demonic rejection, the other is a demonic counterfeit.
>>25408417I've come to find that a lot of the people holding positions such as anon are of potentially three different camps,>satanists >edgy athiests >well poisoning jews (first two often also being this)No genuine national socialist would hold such anger towards Christianity.
>>25408053>do any right wing governments endorse mass migration and granting citizenship to migrants to "defeat" their political opponents?Not quite, neoliberal (conservative cuck) political parties push mass immigration for the benefit of capital, not to increase their voters base.
>>25407831>That's mostly propaganda.Tell that to the victims of the paki grooming gangs
>>25407831>Thank Allah there has been a shift from this originalring in Saudi ArabiaYou mean: rabid durkas beheading other muslims in Syria and Iraq to the benefit of Israel, the country Saudi Arabia and other gulf states are in bed with? Subhanallah!
>>25408163>championing passivity and meeknessYou've never studied the Bible if you think this is the case.
>>25408613Kek, second in command Himmler did.
>>25406923>>25406945The resurrection never happened, anon. Jesus did not rise and he is never coming back.
>>25408613You're liar and you know it. Because you worship a god of lies.
>>25406901>The 10 commandments are Jewish>The great stories of the Old Testament are Jewish.A Christian would argue that the modern religion of Judaism is a break in continuity with the Old Testament, and that Christianity maintains that continuity. Saying the 10 commandments are Jewish is just as controversial as saying they are Islamic, since the Muslims likewise claim Moses.
>>25406901He's right though. The Jews are the most incredible race to walk this planet and for being such a small people you have to give them credit for the quantity of their achievements. Antisemitism is the white analog of anti-racism in black people. Those more successful (Jews in the case of whites; whites in the case of blacks) are portrayed as having attained their power unfairly, through corruption, and "holding down the brothas". It obviously arises from the same psychological motive, basically slave morality, and any self-respecting person should want no part in it.
>>25409049 (myself)Although I think his turn of logic, to claim that the fate of Israel is the fate of the West, is disingenuous. The West was perfectly fine before Israel existed.
The modern jews are the ones who crucified Christ and abandoned God. Their evil has become so profound that now they've managed to poison the well of Christianity by tricking people into thinking it's a religion born of from them and not their ancient brothers who accepted God.
>>25409049How? Jews had 0 success before Euros adopted Christianity and basically banned their own people from finance and banking while at the same time inviting Jews to take those sectors over. It's a merchant tribe that was at the right place at the right time, their only influence is the one they get through naive white westerners and that influence is waning.
>>25407334That's because they're crypto-jews
>>25407944Panentheism is not polytheismSlavery is easily among the top 3 worst things humans are capable ofMutilating a childs foreskin is jewish and ridiculously evilKilling people for their consensual sexual choices, regardless of whether its degenerate or not, is evilKilling women for being raped is evilThe partial distaste for arts, like music in some cases, isnt evil but retarded (ik not all)Forcing women to cover up because of your lack of impulse control is evilHaving a prophet enamored with a girl with a single-digit age is retardedMuslims countries are evidently shitholes. The only ones that arent as bad are also the most westernized ones>Inb4 muh colonialism What muslims did to countries they conquerored wasnt much better. If the Saudi house was in the place of the top dog US jews they wouldnt be much better. Dont get me wrong, I wont demonize islam in its entirety here. There are also many good things coming out of it, like the lack of usury, a greater compassion for the less fortunate, and a rapid hatred for jews. Just like in christianity, truths can be found there, especially the more mystic you go. But with so so many issues it has it can hardly be anything close to objectively correct. What did Jesus say again?>Judge a tree by its fruits
>>25409197People have been willingly going into slavery since forever. It's not that big a deal. Americans just engage in anti-worship of it because it's part of their religion.
>>25409231Peter Thiel get off of 4chan please
>>25409438Don't you guys even have debt slavery for dads who can't pay their child payments? Imagine how many people would say that's evil, lmao (all deadbeat dads!)
>>25409176There's strong evidence to believe that genetics plays a role in success. You're offering a purely sociological/historical argument for their success, ie they're wealthy because they had a monopoly on finance and that's what makes them produce so many Nobel prize winners today. But you're not factoring in the genetic component at all. Other outsider communities in Europe -- like the gypsies -- never accomplished as much as the Jews.
>>25409140lol retard seething about fairy tales
>>25409454I am not discarding it, obviously blacks or gypsies would be too retarded to fill that role but it also doesn't disprove what I just said. If Europeans never fell for the Christianity meme then Jews today would also have 0 relevance globally.
>>25409459If Europeans never adopted Christianity the world would be so fundamentally different right now that it's basically impossible to know what would happen.
whats the problem exactly?
>>25409463It's very possible to know that Jews would not be tolerated. Just look at how they were treated or are treated nowadays anywhere outside of Christendom.
lmao
>>25409459>If Europeans never fell for the Christianity meme then Jews today would also have 0 relevance globallyI'm a little bit curious as to how you could possibly rationalize this statement.Pagan Romans were the ones who integrated the worlds Jewish population into European civilization, gave them all special religious privileges, then full citizenship rights. the pre christian Roman empire was home to many wealthy and powerful Jewish families, including some who had huge influence within the imperial court.if anything Rome adopting Christianity led to a curbing of these rights they already enjoyed under European paganism if Rome never adopted Christianity, Jews still would have been integrated thoroughly into western civilization, and the west probably still would have eventually gone on to conquer the world and spread Jewish influence globally.
>>25409468They were probably treated worse as a result of the adoption of Christianity. The ancients could only charge them with refusing to worship their gods, whereas the Christians believed they actually killed God.>treated nowadays anywhere outside of ChristendomThey are hated in the Muslim countries, but Islam would not exist if not for the rise of Christianity
The Pentateuch is fairytales and myths, the other books are fanfiction about those fairytales and myths.
>>25409479>gave them all special religious privilegesCan you name one? As far as I know the Romans tolerated them the same way they tolerated all other religions because Roman culture was inherently religiously tolerant. Whenever Jews acted up they were slaughtered in the hundreds of thousands to the point where Jews seethe about Hadrian even today. >>25409481>probablyNo, it's a verifiable fact that the Christian Franks and the Christian Byzantines were the ones that gave benefits to the Jews.
>>25409481>They were probably treated worse as a result of the adoption of Christianitynot "probably", the adoption of christianity in Europe saw jews stripped of sa bunch of their rights they had enjoyed under pagan leadership>The ancients could only charge them with refusing to worship their gods, which they never did. Julius Caesar and his successor, Augustus, were highly favourable to the Jewish peopleJulius Caesar first established the foundational legal framework that exempted Jews from pagan civic rituals, and Augustus expanded specifically to exempt them from the imperial cult. Septimius Severus then expanded Jewish privilages to include holding official offices. Caracalla then gave all Jews full roman citizenship and all the rights owed with it when christianity came topower Rome, Jewish legal status deteriorated drastically. Constantine made a few decrees that attacked jewish rights, then under the the Theodosian Code things began declining rapidly, and under the Code of Justinian, Jewish persecution was more or less finalized by stripping away their remaining basic civil and judicial defenses, to the point where Jews were no longer even allowed to testify in court against Christians.
>>25409489the Jews were literally the only religious group to receive a formal, legal exemption from the Imperial cult across the entire Roman Empire.see >>25409501 for more.
>>25409504I'm not sure what you're talking about. What imperial cult are you referring to and what did the exemption imply?
>>25409489>Whenever Jews acted up they were slaughtered in the hundreds of thousands to the point where Jews seethe about Hadrian even today.Hadrian put down a Jewish revolt in the Roman province of Judea. This is just the regular imperial conduct, is it not? How is that proof that Jews were treated badly in the Roman Empire?>No, it's a verifiable fact that the Christian Franks and the Christian Byzantines were the ones that gave benefits to the Jews.Even if true, they persecuted them also. Where is the proof that in a fantasy scenario where Christianity was never adopted Jews would've fared worse?>>25409501Yes, I know.
>>25409511>regular imperial conductYes, that was my point. Jews were not treated as special. >Where is the proof that in a fantasy scenario where Christianity was never adopted Jews would've fared worse?Cause they would've not gotten those privileges?
>>25409515What privileges?
>>25409506...the Imperial Cult was part of Romes state religion for about 400 years. Refusal to partake in the Imperial Cult rituals was legally deemed treasonous and was compulsory for everyone, except the Jews specifically.
>>25406901He's right and that's why we have to abandon Chr*stianity.
>>25409518No bans on usury and they were officially made a state religion under the Byzantines. >>25409525I'm sorry, I genuinely don't know what you're referring to. I tried looking it up and all I could find was some decree made by Decius and it's not exactly clear to me if it was ever enforced.
>>25409543>No bans on usuryYou do have a point there> they were officially made a state religion under the ByzantinesI mean it's a complex history I know there were a bunch of legal injunctions against Jews under the Byzantine Empire, I'm not really aware of them making Judaism an official religion but even if it happened I can see something similar happening under pagan rome too, as the other anon pointed out Jews were free to practice their religion in pagan rome and not worship the roman gods
>>25409543>I tried looking it up obviously you didn't since simply typing in "Augustus gives jews sole exception to imperial cult" into google brings up a wealth of information on the topic
>>25409557First link I get is a wikipedia article, 2nd one is a book that disagrees with the claim.If you have some actual source then I'll give it a look.
>>25409506>What imperial cult are you referring toSo you dont even know what the fucking imperial cult is and you're here lecturing people on roman history lol? and making up head canon alt-history theories based on topics you dont even understand on a basic level?
>>25409585I understand the emperors were supposed to be divine but I have no idea to what extent that was enforced throughout the empire and what privileges relating to it meant. I'd be happy to be educated by the other person that made the claim but he's telling me to google it even though he's the one that made the claim.
>>25409578>Josephus reports a decree of Augustus which gave the Jews the right to follow their ancestral customs ( Ant. 16.162). Claudius later affirmed the decree of Augustus for Alexandria and then the empire ( Ant. 19.289-91). >Images were not required and Jews did not have to engage in cultic veneration in imperial temples or participate in festive activitieshttps://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2017/2017.05.49/you can read the text from Flavius Josephus including the actual decree herehttps://lexundria.com/j_aj/16.160-16.178/wstCaesar Augustus, high priest and tribune of the people, ordains thus: Since the nation of the Jews hath been found grateful to the Roman people, not only at this time, but in time past also, and chiefly Hyrcanus the high priest, under my father Caesar the emperor, 163it seemed good to me and my counselors, according to the sentence and oath of the people of Rome, that the Jews have liberty to make use of their own customs, according to the law of their forefathers, as they made use of them under Hyrcanus the high priest of the Almighty God; and that their sacred money be not touched, but be sent to Jerusalem, and that it be committed to the care of the receivers at Jerusalem; and that they be not obliged to go before any judge on the Sabbath day, nor on the day of the preparation to it, after the ninth hour. 164But if any one be caught stealing their holy books, or their sacred money, whether it be out of the synagogue or public school, he shall be deemed a sacrilegious person, and his goods shall be brought into the public treasury of the Romans.note christians were agressively persecutred for refusing the imperial cult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocletianic_PersecutionIn 303, the emperors Diocletian, Maximian, Galerius, and Constantius issued a series of edicts rescinding Christians' legal rights and demanding that they comply with traditional religious practices. Later edicts targeted the clergy and demanded universal sacrifice, ordering all inhabitants to sacrifice to the Roman gods (Jews were exempt)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire#
>>25406901>JBP is a reactionary dipshit who loves israeloh no who could ever have seen this coming!
>>25409628So they weren't forced to admit the emperor was divine? Is that it? It also seems according to the link you yourself posted that Christians and Jews were sometimes lumped together.>the proconsul effectively identified Christians with Jews and in so doing gave the former a de facto exemption from imperial cultic obligations and the right to meet weekly.
>>25406901Reject Yahweh-Typhon. Return to Zeus Pater.ZEVS VVLT.
>>25409457>seething(You) wish.
>>25409049All jewish history and mythology is co-opted and not their own. They have created nothing and continue to create nothing. Their people have been genocied time and time again to the extent that jews today have no genetic continuity with those written about from thousands of years ago. They haven’t achieved anything, all they’ve done has been being brutalized over and over again into becoming the physically frail and mentally schizophrenic group they are now. There’s nothing incredible about jews whatsoever. Whites hating jews isn’t an analog for anti-racist blacks, it’s the natural immune response of a race that actually has created all western art, philosophy, and culture reacting to an inferior race attempting to destroy all their works. The true jealousy surrounding jews is from the jews themselves in their vitriolic jealousy of Whites, as Whites embody all of the characteristics of what a race truly favored by the divine would look like and produce on Earth.
>>25409637>So they weren't forced to admit the emperor was divine? Is that it?no, they were also exempt from specific active ritualistic practices like pagan sacrifices, or veneration of graven images, as well as not being required to worship caeser as divine >Images were not required and Jews did not have to engage in cultic veneration in imperial temples or participate in festive activities>It also seems according to the link you yourself posted that Christians and Jews were sometimes lumped together."sometimes" being the key word here for hundreds of years the only time Christians got an exception was when people just associated them with judea thus they fell under the umbrella of receiving special rights aimed at jews. when the time came, jews enjoyed continued exceptions while christians were actively persecuted as a separate entity.
>>254069299 years old. He married Aisha when she was 6 and consummated the marriage when she reached 9.
>>25406944You'll never believe who hated Jesus the most and is the reason he was nailed to the cross in the first place.
>>25407149You may think people are less likely to invent something silly, but it also lowers the prior probability.
>>25408386>Christcucks don’t seem to have read the gospels and just trust Saul the kike>Again christcucks don’t actually read this they just invent copes >completely misunderstands the gospels
>>25409501>under the Code of Justinian, Jewish persecution was more or less finalized by stripping away their remaining basic civil and judicial defenses, to the point where Jews were no longer even allowed to testify in court against Christians.unfuckingbelievably based beyond belief. Too bad he married a whore though.
>>25408386This is too tiresomely stupid to finish but I think I get the gist. Jesus spend his entire time criticizing the Jews who were following the rabbis over the Torah - basically the talmudic Jews. Aka what we call modern Judaism.The New Testament is literally the original antisemitic book. It's Jesus going around telling Jews their father is the devil and God hates them.
>>25409828>it also lowers the prior probabilityWhat did he think he was saying?
>>25410155Nobody knows.
>>25409506LMFAO
>>25409686>The white man ain't accomplished nuffin. All they gots they stole. They create nuffin and continue to create nuffin. The whites they juss jealous of our divinely-favoured negroe brothas, that's why they try to destroy errthang we do!
>>25407006They've embraced it and have thus utterly ruined it beyond being a quirky joke to make. If you were serious about this at all you would want to avoid this very result. Now the average zoomer with a perm curses Netanyahu like a folkloric spirit and spams juice box emojis without any thought. This is arguably the worst scenario for you: enough exposure for it to be common without any of the action that succeeds it. It will be consumed by the forces of democracy and reduced to a bullet point on a Democrat manifesto in 2028. Congratulations on your centuries long struggle, it has arrived at shore without any oars.
>>25412140This is a false equivalence and it isn’t even a well formulated one. Whites created 90%+ of everything relevant today be it ideas or material.
>>25412140>meanwhile jews’ entire worldview is literally just “we wuz tha muhfuckin chosen ones”
>>25406901>Oy vey goyim, it's not a war crime when God's chosen do itThe West's rise to supremacy came in direct relation to the waning influence of those Jewish myths.
>>25406901And Jesus spake unto His disciples, "Thou shalt rape thine prisoners with thine metal rod, into thou anus, without due process"And Jesus spake unto His disciples, "Thou shalt play unto thineself a game, thou who shoots the most 10 year old boys in the testicles wins."And Jesus spake unto His disciples, "Thou shalt illegally settle into the lands of another, and thou shalt murder them and rape their children."And Jesus spake unto His disciples, "Thou shalt construct a massive, global network of underage sex trafficking, wherefore to blackmail the entire world to do thine bidding."
>>25413653>illegally settleYou have a very juvenile view of reality.
>>25413661Illegal under international law yes. Problem?
>>25413712>international lawlol, lmao even
>>25406901I never rated this two-bit Canadian junkie. He is now also objectively mentally disturbed as a result of failed detoxification treatments in Russia (likely sought out due to a conspiracy theory surrounding the supposed "leftist" quackery in Western medicine) and the mold spores infesting his squalid adobe. It is deeply ironic that his downfall has been brought about by the very East he portrays as a threat, all while he neglected to heed his own advice.
>>25413712nta, it really doesn't mean shit if there's no one to enforce it. Sure some yugoslav dudes and some random african mtumbo warlords have been prosecuted by the ICC, they'll never touch an Isr*eli in a million years.
>>25406901Christcuckery, the final frontier for right wing grifters (speedrun available if you're accused of diddling or rape).>>25408607>YHWH was just joking in the OT broI'm not sure if it's more insane to believe an omniscient and omnipotent being would fuck up that badly, or to try to disguise "actually we're the real jews" in a cloak of antisemitism. >>25407999>Christianity is mostly a greek religion, every single theological dogma and ethical structure is borrowed from greek philosophers. The jewish part is there mostly for the eschatology, nothing more.>you should believe in the religion because anything of value is borrowed from the greeks who believed in none of this jewish shit>also worship the jewish god right now it's tradition just don't think or question anythingPossibly even more deranged than the protestant christcuckery, the catholic sales pitch.
>>25413719>no response just as expected>>25413722It does raise interesting questions like yours indeed. I do wonder if Israel will experience its turning point the way SA did.
>>25412757Ik but Jews per capita contributed more to civilisation than non-Jewish whites. The same psychological motive for blacks to despise whites for their superiority (ie. slave morality and resentment) is the one operative in white antisemitism.
>>25414320I don’t hate jews for their contributions to particle physics though. I hate them because of people like barbara lerner spectre.
>>25413782International law is a joke only a delusional globalist would take seriously. You got a completely appropriate response.
>>25414354Why is it a joke?
>>25414364Because governments aren't like people. Other states could theoretically band together to punish infringements but if the perpetrating country is strong enough they will simply get away with it. It is really only a political tool of the strong nations to impose their will on everyone else under the pretense of justice. You're more of a joke for needing to ask.
>>25413736>I'm not sure if it's more insane to believe an omniscient and omnipotent being would fuck up that badlyIt's not exactly Gods fault that jews strayed from the Torah and rejected the messiah
>>25414370If a billionaire uses elite lawyers to avoid tax fraud charges, or if John Gotti bribed jurors and avoided conviction for years, does that mean American domestic law doesn't exist? Does it mean murder and racketeering are legal in New York?Do you at least acknowledge that according to the legal definitions, Israel is committing a genocide? And that according to these same rules of law it is also illegally settling on Palestinian land? Are you willing to agree to that?
>>25414378>does that mean American domestic law doesn't existIt doesn't exist until their peers benefit from them getting taken out.>isrealI don't acknowledge anything Isreal does as illegal because I don't acknowledge them as a state. Their foundation is a hypocritical use of the victim card to create the same end goal the Nazis had. Utterly disgusting.
>>25414387Fair enough (and based)
>>25406901he's actually not wrong.christianity is developed so that our society can worship the Hebrew community for centuries.
there are posters on this board who weren't even born when this jordanian guy was famous.
>>25407999Checked. Protestants are jews. Luther was a useful idiot. A jew translated the Talmud and showed the catholic court. There was a trial scheduled. When that happened magically a pope was murdered and Luther appeared to divert and distract from the issue. Catholic Church had lots of problems but Protestantism is not the solution.
>>25408009Jesus was from Galilee which translates to Gelil ha-Goyim (circle of the heathens). It was the Greek part of the area. Jews hate Greeks due to the influence exerted on the Jewish culture from Alexander onward.
>>25414320Please list these accomplishments
>>25406901european jews are not jews but say they are jews are lie. you can't just read the talmud and be a jew. you can though read the talmud and join the synagogue of satan.
>>25414421You need to be 18 to post here.
>>25414449You’re using them
>>25408050there are no "inferiors" based on skin color in christianity.
>>25406901> that /lit/ promoted for yearsThis board only ever shat on him until the early 2020s when one of his subreddits got shut down and a bunch of retarded illiterate plebbitors took refuge here.
>>25414378I'm dumb but I think if expensive lawyers+bribes can allow you to dodge punishment for crimes, then the law enforcement/judicial system just suck. Idk what the solution to that is.
>>25406901>You see, Morgan *cries*. Young western men, not wanting to die for Israel, that is the Devil's Game at play. It is Chaos, the Belly of the Beast.
>>25414669>this board is mostly retardsYeah, we noticed.
>>25407990It was unironically Christianity and Islam that kept Judaism surviving for so long. The christians and muslims from the middle ages let jews live as second-class citizens for the fact they worshiped a primitive variation of their religion, believing in the same God.If the world was fully pagan, jews would have been forcefully converted into extinction long ago.