Who is Atlas, and why did he shrug?
>>25418626Atlas was the god of the sea and he hated Trojans.
>>25418639I thought that was Neptune or something
In Greek mythology, Atlas didn't shrug but he did try to trick Heracles into taking on the burden. So, like Ayn Rand, herself, Atlas was a failed conman.
>>25419606Rand was an author who wrote and sold fiction, and professed to. It's ok if you don't like her, but I'm discounting you as a liar.
>>25418626Atlas was a greek titan who was forced to hold up his father Uranus who was the literal sky and prevent from reuniting with his mother Gaia. For some reason that I have never bothered to look up there are depictions of Atlas holding up a globe instead which a bunch of people interpreted as the earth. The novels title is just a very round about way of saying the earth shook implying the events depicted are equivalent to that.
>>25419628She wasn't a conman, like that guy said, but did try and fail to start up a cult based around self-esteem. She and her followers also tried to hide the fact she needed a bailout from the social safety net she had spent her life arguing shouldn't exist.
>>25418640or something? what else did you have in mind?
>>25419633>The novels title is just a very round about way of saying the earth shook implying the events depicted are equivalent to thatNo, retard. Look up connotations of the word "shrug".
>>25419634>She wasn't a conmanOk. Thanks for agreeing with me.
>>25419642Different meanings of the title are not mutually exclusive.
>>25419644No problem. Thanks for the color show when it comes to ignoring the self-help cult/being saved by the social safety net and lying about it.
>>25419651>The novels title is just a very round about way of saying >justYou're contradicting yourself, retard. Hint #2: Atlas represents the books protagonists.
>>25418626Because your mom was on top of him
>>25418626Atlas Raped
>>25419660I'm sorry your random autism over a generic turn of phrase is making you seethe. If you expect me to grovel for making a minor error it's not gonna happen.
>>25419680>a generic turn of phraseIt wasn't though. Also, you didn't know what the title meant but felt the need to speak up anyway because you're retarded. Anyway, Atlas represents the protagonists (i.e. Dagney, Galt, Rearden, the mining guy, the pirate guy, etc) who figuratively carry the world on their shoulders, via their productive drive, and the shrug is the strike whereby the world falls apart without them. Pretty simple stuff, retard. You should be embarrassed.
>>25419606holy based
>>25419705If you actually read the novel you'll discover that their 'shrugging' didn't cause the economic breakdown; it actually took an anarchist level of sabotage to do that.
>>25419705You didn't consider for a second that maybe I assumed OP hadn't read it and wasn't trying to give away key details of the book did you? You are an embarrassment.
>>25419716The world was already falling apart and the emphasis is far more on them removing themselves and, thereby, the fruits of their productivity than it is the guerilla shit they do. >>25419717You didn't know what it meant. Why are you trying to save face in front of strangers on the internet, lol? You've learned something. You're welcome.
>>25419724He says as he loses more face by failing to see his own mistakes.
>>25419736>N-NO YOU!Lol. Thanks for the laughs, retard.
>>25419743Yeah, its not much but goading you into tripling down must be entertaining for some of the lurkfags.
>>25419747Didn't read. Sorry learning is painful for you but at least you have that as an excuse for being a retard.
>>25419748You're trying your best and that's what matters.
>>25419760>>25419748
>>25419763This is a post.
>>25418626I'll never read an ayn rand book again. If i want a political fantasist furiously masturbating and screaming their ideology at me I'll go to green party meet up.
>>25418626He shrugged after fruitlessly trying to argue with the communists on /lit/. It completely destroyed his faith in humanity.
>>25419716>Not giving me meh gibs is literally terrorism.
>>25418626atlas shruggedfatlas fugged
Anti-Rayn cultists got BTFO hard in this thread
>>25418626I dunno.
>>25418626John GaltBecause he's self-important snot. He's based on Baron Edmund de Rothschild btw>Who is John Galt?Baron Edward de Rothschild
>>25421193John Galt is actually loosely inspired by the serial killer William Hickman who kidnapped his boss’ 10 year old child and hacked her to death with a saw before extorting him for money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Marion_Parker
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>>25421202>>25421209A mixture.
>>25418626atlas stands for the dudes that make shit happen and them shrugging means they say fuck it and stop being exploited by collectivist retards. they go on strike if you will.
My reading club says to ignore the last hundred pages or so and concentrate on the love story. Ayn, oops, I mean Dagny, is desired by some of the greatest men of her generation but she's out looking for the one man who is truly worthy of her. -- Spoiler alert: she finds him and becomes his literal bang-maid. It's the great romance of the 20th century. Swoon.
>>25419628She conned the simping rubes she had a series of daliences with, especially the one she married. The readers however got what they paid for.
>>25418626>Who is Atlas, and why did he shrug?Rand considers there to be takers and makers in her philosophy. Makers are those who create business, money, factory ownership, inventors etc, people she'd consider "elite" who conveniently all somehow succeed instead of fail like most people who start businesses or invest in novel technologies. The characters that do this in her novel are tired of being burdened with "carrying" society (which she villainizes cartoonishly) as it were so they just leave everyone besides themselves to their own devices and form a little hidey hole where they can "not be successful" so people can't sponge off them and society will collapse so that the superior beings they are can come back and pick up the pieces of the burning strawman that Rand setup.So for Rand the Atlas that shrugs is people she considers superior leaving everyone else behind to watch society collapse. The leader of the elites has a monologue 60 pages long it's not a very good book.
>N-NO, RAND DIDN'T HAVE A POINT ACTUALLY, I GET TO DECIDE WHAT SHE MEANS NOT THE PERSON WHO WROTE THE BOOK, THE BOOK HAS NO POINT CAUSE I SAID SO MUH COMMUNISMI'm not even a Randian but Anti-Randians are pathetic, their very objections prove Rand right.
>>25418626How much does Ayn Rand owe to George Orwell for dignifying the idea of using a fictional narrative as political commentary? I don't think anyone would take her shitty romance novels seriously if they didn't think they were basically Libertarian 1984. I'm still pissed off that I got tricked into reading Fifty Shades of Grey, but with railroad men and unending political rants.
>>25419705I thought it meant that Atlas was liberated by shrugging off the world, like he was destined to carry the load of the whole world on his shoulders, and then he was like: nope, not doing that. And shrugged.
